Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 13:08:40 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: Power window problems
> found if you take a short piece of 2x4 - managed to raise the window up -
> then jam the wood in - and - IMPORTANT PART COMING UP -Screw a dri-wall
> screw through a convient hole to hold the wood, It works great - except of
ROFL, this is how the previous owner had FIXED my rear tailgate window on my '67.
Not only that, but he made it even more challenging by having thrown away ALL the
hardware... it didn't work he said... and neither did the brakes, exhaust, clutch,
shall I go on...
This was my first FSJ. a pink (yeah, I know Ken, Salmon, no wait, rose, no, no, no,
it's Indian Cermak, or pottery... or was it red pink clay...) Wagoneer that I was
able to get by giving the guy a then functioning Ford Pinto wagon that I had traded
three cords of wood for... the Pinto was inoperative within about two weeks... the
guy was a carpenter, not a mechanic...
(BTW, it was Indian Ceramic, and is/was the same color as Ken's spring over beauty...)
later,
john
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They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
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81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:10:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Jacobs Electronics
At 08:48 AM 12/5/96 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm sure you guys have been through this thread a gazillion times before.
>
>I'm fixing to order the Jacobs Ultra pack for my '91 GW.
>The objective is better mileage (now ~12.5 MPG) and maybe better starts in
>the cold.
>Before I spend all that money I'd like some input from the experts:
>
>Good, bad, indifferent ???
>Is there a 'better' alternative?
>
>Thanks, all.
>
Jack,
I just put a Jacob's Omni pack on my '81 Cherokee. This is with a
258 I-6, not a 360. For me, the biggest difference has been in idle
smoothness. Unfortunately, I added the Omni pack, and before I checked the
mileage, I also replaced the thermostat which was preventing the engine from
warming up. Therefore, I don't know if the improvement in mileage I got was
totally a result of the new electronics. For reference, the highway mileage
went from 17.5 mpg to over 21 mpg with these two fixes alone. If you call
them, they will quote you a guaranteed mpg and HP improvement for your
particular engine and vehicle. For mine, they said it would gain at least
16.7% in mpg. It seems to me that this setup gives the most benefit if the
engine you are putting it on doesn't have a "high energy" ignition on it
already. The higher spark voltages allow your engine to burn leaner
air/fuel mixtures without an occasional miss (since lean mixtures tend to be
hard to light). In my case, due to the feedback carb, that occasional miss
would result in the overall mixture being on the rich side since the O2
sensor would sense the oxygen in the unburnt air/fuel mixture and the
computer would think that the mixture is too lean! Now, the Jacobs setup
will ignite the lean mixtures and the idle is now rock solid smooth. The
other thing that you have to remember is that putting in these electronics
allows you to fiddle with the spark plug gaps (I went from .035 to .060,
engine ignition timing (from 6 BTDC to 10 BTDC), and the air/fuel mixture
(taken care of by the feedback carb,maybe change jetting on yours?). All of
these things will have some effect on your mpg.
Overall, I would have to say it has been a worthwhile addition to the big
Cherokee and worth the money. Oh...I think if you call them and tell them
you can get it cheaper through Summit or something, they'll drop the price.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
-Tom Anhalt
'81 Wide-Track Cherokee Laredo
'65 Buick Special Convertible
Santa Barbara, CA
[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 17:25:21 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: the other John Welcome to the new John on the list! So you worked for AMC eh? Yea great.....now tell me about that ZR-1 !!!!! To heck with Jeeps, we have another Vette owner on the list! I like my old 69 roadster, but it sure ain't a ZR-1......drool....... C'ya Joe ******************************************************* *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown 144,000 mi.* *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/* *******************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 17:38:28 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: Should we advertise! Michael typed; If ListMom thinks the server is up to the task, then I'm all for it. But, >despite our humble beginning and that fact that many of us enjoy the looseness >of the list, we may have to limit the list to the primary subject and ask >everyone to only quote the relevant part of a message they are replying to in >consideration of the sheer volume or traffic. This is good practice anyway. PLus it's polite to those who pay by the "K" or "meg" that they