Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 19:32:02 -0600
From: Jim Weisflock <mrmonk-at-basec.net>
Subject: Re: SD FSJs
john wrote:
>
> MORE stories... it's raining here... maybe some snow on Sunday...
>
> Is this the blizzard that got some folks stuck in ND off of I-94?
>
> I miss challenges like these... :) My wife doesn't... but I do...
This past week has to be one of the worst in recent winter memory here,
the Wagoneer has been a life saver indeed, without it I wouldn't have
made it in to work. I think on Saturday Redfield recieved almost a foot
of fresh snow and the rest of the week it's been blowing around all over
the place. Had the yearly winter tradition of racing a vehicle free
from my alley before they plow after the storm blows through, this year
was the Wagoneer's year to show us what it's good for, and well, it got
really stuck about halfway down the alley from my garage. Eventually we
got out with a little shoveling and pushing of the gas, but now I got a
question on how 4wd works.
When these things are in 4wd, don't all 4 wheels get power or just one
front or one rear, if so, which wheels engage when the vehicle is in
4wd? When it was stuck only the 2 driver's side wheels spun, not the
best for trying to get the whole hungup thing unstuck. Other than that
alley mishap the Wagoneer hasn't even come close to being stuck and
never failed to run and start for me engine hot or deathly cold (even
unplugged). The temps here lately have been in the -20s lately, runs
great cold and I'm glad FSJs have awesome heaters! Keeps it nice and
toasty on the inside, just wish the shocks had heaters, because they all
froze solid! :O My FSJ don't ride real nice now, but hey, it gets
through the snow, so it's forgiveable. (#-at-$%^&* shocks!!!!)
Tomorrow I'll be jiggling along to Milbank SD in the Wagoneer to check
out a 89 GW and a pristine 93 GW (ZJ with wood, they're cool!!!). Then
this Tuesday the GW get's a long glasspack (my son's idea) so we'll see
how much more pleasant it will be to drive. :)
LaterZ!
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[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:34:01 -0500 From: Ron <rgeer-at-summit.net> Subject: Re: Coming out - non lurker Bill Hill wrote: > > Hi, > I decided it was time to stop lurking and come out. My name is > Bill and I live near Brooklyn Michigan. 20 miles from Jackson, in the > Irish Hills part of the state. I have a 1977 Cherokee Chief with a 360, > quadratrac and auto trans. Yes it is a two door. We bought this rust > bucket new in 1977, it now has 105,000 on it. Very dependable > transportation, but it is no longer a primary vehicle. Sounds like mine; same year, engine, etc. even the same no. of miles. Difference is, I bought mine as a rust bucket 10 years ago, and have spent many hours trying to reverse that sitution. Ron[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:29:54 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: Ringing questions
>
> As far as the rings I can't find anywhere on the papers where it states
> what kind of rings are used. I did notice that the guys who did my first
> oil change after the rebuild used 20w-50 oil. I guess they were
> following the previous change when I was using heavy oil to maintain oil
> pressure. Its time for fresh oil. I think I'll put in something a
> little lighter and see if it helps.
> Thanks
> DaveG
> Dallas TX
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Jesus is the REASON FOR THE SEASON
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd recommend using something really bad, like maybe Pennzoil 5w30 :) Don't
use any good oils like Castrol, Kendall, AMSOIL or any synthetics or blends...
Seriously, you might have the compression tested in each cylinder. You may have
other problems. Was the rebuilder a good one? Any oil consumption? smoke?
If the folks that did the rebuild lined all the ring openings up in a row, you'd
also have blowby... it does happen, and when it does, you usually see slightly
higher oil consumption...
Was the 20w50 Castrol? Usually a good shop will suggest a break in type oil or
a single weight oil. Some multigrades will do bad things to rings, especially
in Diesels... (never use 10w40 in a Diesel... there is too much additive to
make it work and it will collect around the rings and actually score the cylinders...)
Synthetics usually don't require as much additive to get the wider range of viscosities,
AMSOIL rates their oils with a range, but what I've heard is it's atually X weight that
covers such and such range...
good luck, hope it's nothing serious,
john
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does this look like a 4 door with a sunroof? :)
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[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:42:46 -0500 From: Ron <rgeer-at-summit.net> Subject: Re: merry Christmas to all FSJ'ers!!! john wrote: > > joe, > > snow doesn't weigh enough for ballast... Tell that to my father, who had a roof collapse on his storage shed last year. Of course, the shed was many years old, and the snow was 30"+ (western MD). > besides us folks with 4 doors usually keep it > nice and comfy inside... :) Two-door rides can be comfy too. (Come to think of it, seems like there would be less places for cold air to come in, without the extra doors). Some of my CJ and Scout riding buddies used to call it the "living room" when we went out on some cold/wet runs. Ron[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:54:59 -0500 From: Ron <rgeer-at-summit.net> Subject: Re: BSEE/BSME/BSCE/BS and just plain ole' BS > > A couple of questions while I'm being vocal (non-lurking). > > 1. I have Select-Trac. Would lock-out hubs help my gas milage. > Prior to a long trip one summer, I took out my front driveshaft, and removed the "donuts" from the front hubs, as a test to see if my MPG improved. I didn't notice any difference. Mine is full-time QT. Ron[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:55:17 -0800 From: Jim Sterling <sterling-at-jetlink.net> Subject: Re: Re[2]: (No subject) > >All you need is the lowrange unit off another QT case. It was optional. >You should not get stuck with ice under 2 tires with QT...well I guess >it's possible...both my fsj's has limited slip rear ends. > >Have a great weekend! >C'ya >Joe -Indy- > I have an old QT in the garage that came off my 79 parts Widetrac. I'll have to check the condition of it. If its good, I let you have it cheap (i have a 208 parttime in the 83). ANyboay know what/how I check the QT to see if its any good, since its out the FSJ? Jim[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:55:19 -0800 From: Jim Sterling <sterling-at-jetlink.net> Subject: Re: Re[2]: (No subject) >All you need is the lowrange unit off another QT case. It was optional. >You should not get stuck with ice under 2 tires with QT...well I guess >it's possible...both my fsj's has limited slip rear ends. > >Have a great weekend! >C'ya >Joe -Indy- > > I have a QT out of the 79 parts Cherokee. I can check it for you and if it is any good you can have it cheap. BTW what is the best way to check a QT out? It's sitting in the garage on the floor. Jim[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:46:01 -0800 (PST) From: Thomas Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: BSEE's rule... :) At 04:00 PM 12/20/96 -0800, you wrote: >> >to answer the question, YES. check out Scientific American circa >> 1981-82... :-P >> > >> That's not an actual picture. It's a computer representation of the >> measurements made by an instrument. Kind of like a solid model. > >are you sure you're looking at the right issue? They had a scanning >electronic microscope picture of an electron... it wasn't a very good >picture... but it was a picture... :) > What I meant was that a scanning electron microscope doesn't use light, it uses a beam of electrons and an instrument analyzes the behavior of the electrons and creates a REPRESENTATION of what is there and converts it into an image that we can see. I think the wavelength of visual light is to big to be able to resolve an image of something as small as that. So you're not really looking at a picture of it, you're looking at a picture of what it would look like IF you could actually see it...there...I think I've even confused myself =:0....Anyway, good thing we can figure out how all those unseen electrons work or I wouldn't be able to drive my FSJ!!! ;) Tom Anhalt '81 Wide-Track Cherokee Laredo '65 Buick Special Convertible Santa Barbara, CA[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:11:00 -0500 From: jenhen-at-neca.com (Jen Hen) Subject: Re: 2wd fsj??? I have a Sept '68 issue of Four Wheeler that has an excelente article on a 2wd Baja 1000-prepped race Wag that Brian Chuchua owned. Had a spring-over straight axle in front (clearly no front diff) and a reverse shackle rear. Hey, Doc: it even had the six! Wonder where that Wag is now? At 7:53 PM 12/18/96, Kenneth E. Wetherall wrote: >YES the sixties FSJ's were sold as either >2wd or 4wd!!! > >iv SEEN em :) >-- > Sincerely > > Kenneth Wetherall > kenns-at-concentric.net > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > ============================================================= Henry & Jennifer Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer; Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser '89 Jeep Cherokee Laredo home: jenhen-at-neca.com work: hpadilla-at-dttus.com[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:11:06 -0500 From: jenhen-at-neca.com (Jen Hen) Subject: Re: moonroofs in the daytime At 10:44 PM 12/19/96, john wrote: >If Old Blue didn't have that moon roof, I probably would have given up >on him already... I'm still facing a number of problems, but the >leather seats and that moon roof keep me hanging on... I've never had a car with a moonroof but that sounds nice. I guess no moonroof wouldn't be a major concern but having one would be an exta thing that would make me give a car additional consideration. BTW, what's the diff between a moonroof and a sunroof? Besides driving around in the night versus the day? :=) >my little wagoneer is pretty cool, found a cheap way to lift it... use >an extra set of WAGONEER springs in the rear, and buy a 2" spacer for >the front coils... :) Total cost, about $30... the sunroof will >cost a bit more... Have a few projects that need to be done around >the house before I can cut a hole in the little wag's roof... :( > >later, >john Excelente idea, John. I'll have to send Jen away for a weekend in the Spring so I can do that budget lift. She'll never know! ============================================================= Henry & Jennifer Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer; Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser '89 Jeep Cherokee Laredo home: jenhen-at-neca.com work: hpadilla-at-dttus.com[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:17:55 -0500 From: jenhen-at-neca.com (Jen Hen) Subject: Re: Diff Breathers On the subject of breathers...I have an aluminum breather box I took off my VW race motor. It has a late '70s/early '80s style ribbed cover and looks pretty cool now that Mark shined it up for me. I plan to mount it high in the engine compartment and use it as a combo ft/rr diff and transmission breather. ============================================================= Henry & Jennifer Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer; Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser '89 Jeep Cherokee Laredo home: jenhen-at-neca.com work: hpadilla-at-dttus.com[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:26:30 -0500 From: jenhen-at-neca.com (Jen Hen) Subject: Re: 97 jamboree Hi, Steve. Henry from CT here. Do you plan to go to the Mohawk Jamboree in Western Mass? At 3:53 AM 12/20/96, snordby-at-topcat.bridgew.edu wrote: >Hi > > This is Steve in MA with the lifted and locked Wag. I have attended >the Maine Mountains and Cumberland Falls Jamborees. I only drive on the >hardest trails. If your Jeep is modified you can drive on the harder trails. >I have hopes of attending the Georgian Bay Jamboree in Canada this summer. >If you want to see my Jeep trail bound at the Maine Jamboree find a Oct 1995 >Petersens 4 wheel and off-road mag and look in the readers rides. And no you >will not be pulled out you will have to drag useless Wranglers. >Adios >Steve Nordby >1982 WAgoneer >Plymouth MA > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > ============================================================= Henry & Jennifer Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer; Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser '89 Jeep Cherokee Laredo home: jenhen-at-neca.com work: hpadilla-at-dttus.com[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:26:35 -0500 From: jenhen-at-neca.com (Jen Hen) Subject: Re: arrgg! replacement seats! At 4:47 PM 12/20/96, Widetrac80-at-aol.com wrote: >Ive been to every junkyard in town, found some nice seats thtat match but >none of them tilt far enough forward to leave access to back seat! (2 door >widetrac) Anybody with a 2 door ever swapped seats, if so what did they come >out of? Hmmm...Maybe it'd be easier to add a couple more doors? :=) ============================================================= Henry & Jennifer Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer; Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser '89 Jeep Cherokee Laredo home: jenhen-at-neca.com work: hpadilla-at-dttus.com[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 19:56:52 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: 4wd w/ open axles...
At 07:32 PM 12/20/96 -0600, Jim Weisflock wrote:
.... but now I got a question on how 4wd works.
>
>When these things are in 4wd, don't all 4 wheels get power or just one
>front or one rear, if so, which wheels engage when the vehicle is in
>4wd? When it was stuck only the 2 driver's side wheels spun, not the
>best for trying to get the whole hungup thing unstuck.
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>Travel to far off exotic places, meet new, interesting people,
>and kill them. US ARMY (I love that!!! ROFL!!! Jim Jr.) >=^)
>>---------------------------------------------------
Jim Jr., settle down, that's the MARINE's motto... The Army guys
rarely got to meet interesting people... they would just shoot at us.
But them jarheads, they always had to be first... that's why they
do embassy duty...
Now, about yer 4x4... With open axles that's exactly right...
I found it interesting that Old Blue in 4wd high (normal mode, NP219) that
trying to go up the grassy hill here, the driver's side and the pass
rear side would spin... If I place it in Emergency Lock, both driver's
side tires would spin... :)
A limited slip or lock-rite, lock-tight or something like that, will
help a whole bunch. My 67 had the l/s in the rear and it was pert near
a tractor. My little wagoneer has the l/s in the rear and other than
the fact that it's light in the rear, it does quite well. The L/S from
the factory, trak-lok is fine for light trails, snow and so on... lockers
are for the more serious folks. There are trade-offs, I'd recommend
l/s for us... I'm still thinking about that easily installed lock-right
or whatever it's called...
john
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does this look like a 4 door with a sunroof? :)
81 Wagoneer Ltd & 88 wagoneer ltd
john-at- http://www./~john
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[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:00:17 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: the living room...
At 08:42 PM 12/20/96 -0500, Ron wrote:
>Two-door rides can be comfy too. (Come to think of it, seems like there
>would be less places for cold air to come in, without the extra doors).
>Some of my CJ and Scout riding buddies used to call it the "living room"
>when we went out on some cold/wet runs.
>Ron
makes sense. my Scout had a top with it, but it was so rusted it
didn't fit any more... so before driving it I had to remove the
snow from the seat... come to think of it, I don't remember if
the heater worked... :)
ur also right about snow being heavy on a roof... I'm thinking of
powder...
john
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does this look like a 4 door with a sunroof? :)
81 Wagoneer Ltd & 88 wagoneer ltd
john-at- http://www./~john
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[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:06:55 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: electrons...
At 06:46 PM 12/20/96 -0800, Thomas Anhalt wrote:
>At 04:00 PM 12/20/96 -0800, you wrote:
Tom,
be thankful we don't live in England, not only do they
drive on the wrong side of the road, but they're bassackwards
on current flow too... :)
I started out studying Tubes. Then learned Transistors.
Then learned Mosfets... sheesh, we can't even get it right... :)
one time ya follow the electrons, then ya follow the holes, then
ya follow the electrons... :)
then they introduce optronics... and ya gotta watch the photons which
then affect the electrons, no wait, the holes... arghhhhhhhh.... :)
john
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does this look like a 4 door with a sunroof? :)
81 Wagoneer Ltd & 88 wagoneer ltd
john-at- http://www./~john
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But Ahaz said, "I will not ask, nor will I test the Lord!" Then he said,
"Listen now, O house of David! Is it too slight a thing for you to try the
patience of men, that you will try the patience of my God as well? Therefore
the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child
and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel." Isaiah 7:12-14
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[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:10:19 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: moonroofs in the daytime
At 10:11 PM 12/20/96 -0500, Jen Hen wrote:
>At 10:44 PM 12/19/96, john wrote:
>BTW, what's the diff between a moonroof and a sunroof? Besides driving
>around in the night versus the day? :=)
I think a sunroof is a metal cover. the moonroof is glass with a
sunscreen that can be drawn. the theory is you can view the moon
through the glass...
also, because the sunroof was diffcult to install in these beasts, I
ended up with a nice padded vinyl roof... so I don't have to crawl
up on top of him to wax him... :)
>
>>my little wagoneer is pretty cool, found a cheap way to lift it... use
>>an extra set of WAGONEER springs in the rear, and buy a 2" spacer for
>>the front coils... :) Total cost, about $30... the sunroof will
>>cost a bit more... Have a few projects that need to be done around
>>the house before I can cut a hole in the little wag's roof... :(
>Excelente idea, John. I'll have to send Jen away for a weekend in the
>Spring so I can do that budget lift. She'll never know!
do you want the part number? :)
>=============================================================
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does this look like a 4 door with a sunroof? :)
81 Wagoneer Ltd & 88 wagoneer ltd
john-at- http://www./~john
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But Ahaz said, "I will not ask, nor will I test the Lord!" Then he said,
"Listen now, O house of David! Is it too slight a thing for you to try the
patience of men, that you will try the patience of my God as well? Therefore
the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child
and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel." Isaiah 7:12-14
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john-at- http://www./~john
81(SJ)&88(XJ) Wagoneer Ltd Snohomish, WA -where jeeps don't rust, they
mold.
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[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:13:20 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: breathers...
At 10:26 PM 12/20/96 -0500, Jen Hen wrote:
Henry,
you ought to have Mark order some AMSOIL literature, lots
of times they'll pack it in scrap air filter material...
That's how I converted my K&N to a Lifetime AMSOIL filter...
that way it'll help keep water, small birds and bugs from
getting in there... :) you could also use a furnace filter
type material....
john
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81 Wagoneer Ltd & 88 wagoneer ltd
john-at- http://www./~john
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But Ahaz said, "I will not ask, nor will I test the Lord!" Then he said,
"Listen now, O house of David! Is it too slight a thing for you to try the
patience of men, that you will try the patience of my God as well? Therefore
the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child
and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel." Isaiah 7:12-14
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john-at- http://www./~john
81(SJ)&88(XJ) Wagoneer Ltd Snohomish, WA -where jeeps don't rust, they
mold.
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Real freedom comes from knowing Him who made us free...
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[Back to Top]Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 00:09:33 -0500 From: Widetrac80-at-aol.com Subject: Re: arrgg! replacement seats! In a message dated 96-12-20 22:36:55 EST, you write: << Hmmm...Maybe it'd be easier to add a couple more doors? :=) >> id rather drive while sitting on a bucket...:-)[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 21:09:36 -0800 From: Allan Weidenheimer <allanw-at-pacific.telebyte.com> Subject: Cool Jeep URL Check out http://www.yahoo.com/Recreation/Automotive/Makes_and_Models/Jeep/ When you get a chance. Lots of Jeep stuff. You can also register your own page by hitting the "add URL" button at the top. We need to get a showing of FSJ pages to combat all those runt jeep pages! Allan Weidenheimer 84 GW[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 21:36:51 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: arrgg! replacement seats!
At 12:09 AM 12/21/96 -0500, Widetrac80-at-aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 96-12-20 22:36:55 EST, you write:
> Hmmm...Maybe it'd be easier to add a couple more doors? :=)
> >>
>id rather drive while sitting on a bucket...:-)
reminds me of an old Beverly Hillbillies episode where
the Clampetts bought an airline... they replaced the
seats with wooden benches... :)
If y'all think add-a-leafs would stiffen the ride, give
Matt's bucket a ride sometime... :)
john
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81 Wagoneer Ltd & 88 wagoneer ltd
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In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
And the light shineth in darkness;
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But Ahaz said, "I will not ask, nor will I test the Lord!" Then he said,
"Listen now, O house of David! Is it too slight a thing for you to try the
patience of men, that you will try the patience of my God as well? Therefore
the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child
and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel." Isaiah 7:12-14
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john-at- http://www./~john
81(SJ)&88(XJ) Wagoneer Ltd Snohomish, WA -where jeeps don't rust, they
mold.
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Real freedom comes from knowing Him who made us free...
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[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:20:23 -0800 (PST) From: Thomas Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: electrons... At 08:06 PM 12/20/96 -0800, you wrote: >At 06:46 PM 12/20/96 -0800, Thomas Anhalt wrote: >>At 04:00 PM 12/20/96 -0800, you wrote: >Tom, > >be thankful we don't live in England, not only do they >drive on the wrong side of the road, but they're bassackwards >on current flow too... :) > >I started out studying Tubes. Then learned Transistors. >Then learned Mosfets... sheesh, we can't even get it right... :) > >one time ya follow the electrons, then ya follow the holes, then >ya follow the electrons... :) > >then they introduce optronics... and ya gotta watch the photons which >then affect the electrons, no wait, the holes... arghhhhhhhh.... :) > See what I mean? Look at how confusing it gets when you can't actually SEE it! Now explain to me again which kind of engineers deal with reality? <bg> Tom Anhalt '81 Wide-Track Cherokee Laredo '65 Buick Special Convertible Santa Barbara, CA[Back to Top]
Date: 21 Dec 96 01:07:19 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: about that CD... Kara Moloney and Mick Delaney <karaandmick-at-telis.org> writes: >> I can copy them for you, Michael << I'm not going to get them mailed before I have to leave. How about when I come back, I'll drive them up and you can make a copy to fool around with and then I'll mail them to Jim? Mick, you better respond via e-mail since I'll be off the list for a week or so after I post this batch of msgs. Jim, I got your address. I'll be sending them to you one way or another shortly after I get back. -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 20-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F000FMGxHG3AMG54HH8AE703[Back to Top]
Date: 21 Dec 96 01:07:25 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Jeep/Outdoor Channel rdmbfe-at-micro.lucent.com (M_B_FEICK) writes: >> One hasn't lived until one has rebuilt the top end of a 4bbl with a flashlight on the side of the road in Jan.!! Tiny parts are fun with gas helping to steal what paltry calories of heat one had in ones' fingers... << If you have to work out in the cold, I've found surgical style latex gloves help to keep your hands warm and you can still perform intricate operations like getting you finger nail under the lip of electrical tape so you can wrap something (although the tape sticks to the latex better than it'll ever stick to anything else). If you have some around, throw them in with your emergency stuff. I discovered this while changing a friends alternator (it froze-up) in a blizzard about 2 years ago. This was a Suburban. I was wearing said gloves, a hat and insulated coveralls. I was toasty warm while the next day he claimed he got a mild case of Hypothermia. I even gave him a pair of latex gloves as well before we started. Wimp! :-). -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 20-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F0009MGjHGsHJw18EC[Back to Top]
Date: 21 Dec 96 01:07:13 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: another Milton Bradley thing john <john-at-> writes: >> It's amazing how much MB parts are, even at Schucks or Al's or wherever... << You know, Honda parts may be worse. The Benz hasn't required much in the way of parts beyond the normal maintenance stuff. Oil filters cost about $2 more than the others and the thing takes 6 1/2 qts. at oil change time. Valve cover gasket once but, it wasn't that bad. Replaced the power antenna mast and that was only $25. My dash lights in the Honda req'd a warm-up when it is cold out. The colder it was, the longer I had to drive before they would magically come on. I looked over the wiring diagram and found the "dash light controller." Figured that was the problem. I had never even seen the dash light controller at this point. I figured I'd get a new one and then I would know what it looked like. Went down to Honda (who has now started to give me a discount on parts) and said "new dash light controller please." They said "$89." I said, "well, since it's so expensive maybe I better troubleshoot to make sure it is truly the problem." So, I finally found the dash light controller (I was after the heater switch and/or blower resistors at the same time) after I disassembled most of the dash. Took it apart and didn't find anything while I was still out in the garage. I brought it inside and under good light I found a couple of cold solder joints. I re-soldered every connection on the board and the thing works great now. BTW, the blower didn't work on low. I finally found the blower resistors as well. "New blower resistors please" ..."That will be $28 dollars." -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 20-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F000DMGcHGlMG62HL`15FA[Back to Top]
Date: 21 Dec 96 01:07:38 EST
From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: Widetrac owners help
"Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> writes:
>> ah Mike, u cant legthen the shackles to get
a lift on the post 75 FSJ!!! u would have to reweld
the rear spring frame mount!!
Michael Baxter wrote:
>
> Widetrac80-at-aol.com writes:
>
> >> My rear sags a little more than the front already, could I add some >
slightly longer spring shackles to level? I am hesitant to use blocks as I tow
> stuff frequently.. <<
>
> If you lengthen your rear shackles, you'll lower the rear suspension. Go
look > and you'll see what I mean. <<
Isn't that what I said? You drinking too much Eggnog Ken? I know you well
enough to know you didn't put anything in your Eggnog. Maybe you should try a
little something in your Eggnog? :-).
Okay, so you can't lengthen the rear shackles because they'll hit. But if you
could, you would actually move the axle closer to the frame. The shackles
suspend the spring end above the shackle mounts and not below like they do on
the front. All this on post '74 FSJs. Spend some quality time under you FSJ
Widetrac and you'll see what me and Ken are describing.
What am I doing? I don't know much about suspensions.
-- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter
From Reno, NV USA on 20-Dec-1996
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[Back to Top]Date: 21 Dec 96 01:07:30 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re[2]: (No subject) Greg_Loxtercamp-at-datacard.com (Greg Loxtercamp) writes: >> My next upgrade, should it be a low range QT xcase << Greg, Joe already mentioned that you don't have to change-out your existing Q-T since the low-range was optional. In addition to getting the low range unit at the junk yard, also get the linkage and the shifter. There is a big cover on your current Q-T where the Low-Range unit will bolt on. -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 20-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F000EMGtHG}MG5EHH4F13A5[Back to Top]
Date: 21 Dec 96 01:07:45 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Cruise Control Malfunctions Ron <rgeer-at-summit.net> writes: >> How difficult would the swap be. It looks like the speedo cables would not be a problem, but I'm not sure about the switch in the steering column (never had one of those apart), and any of the rest of the wiring harness. << Ron, I have never done a cruise swap but; I'll make a few guesses for you. The factory wiring harness probably already has the proper connectors in all the right places. Beyond the mechanical stuff, you'll need the switch as you mentioned and you'll need to interface with the brake light switch. What may or may not be already wired, I don't know. To get inside the steering column, you need a special tool called a "Lock Ring Compressor." Plus, you may need a two or three jaw puller to pull the steering wheel. At least I've always heard you might need the puller but, all my steering wheels have come off with a good tug. But if you don't have one handy, I'll guarantee you'll need it to get the wheel off. If you want more help with the wiring and such, e-mail me. When I get back from the funeral, I'll help you out. I have the '76 service manual and a '79 service manual which will both shed some light on this for you. The '79 manual is currently on loan and is being copied. We might have to wait for it to come back. -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 20-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F000DMG]HGfMGD1HKW3541[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 01:55:00 -0500 From: Ron <rgeer-at-summit.net> Subject: Re: 4wd w/ open axles... john wrote: > A limited slip or lock-rite, lock-tight or something like that, will > help a whole bunch. ... lockers > are for the more serious folks. There are trade-offs, I'd recommend > l/s for us... I'm still thinking about that easily installed lock-right > or whatever it's called... It is called a Lock-Right. I installed one in my "other" Jeep. Lockers do "help a whole bunch", especially in twisty situations (one tire in the air), or anytime one side of the axle has less traction than the other. "Easily installed" will depend on the axle (and gear ratio, I believe). In my Dana 44 with 5.38 gears, the ring gear was thick enough that it covered the pin that holds the spider gears. To install the Lock-Right you have to remove that pin. So in my case, I had to pull the axles out, remove the carrier assembly, take off the ring gear, etc. It still wasn't too hard. No shim changes are necessary on the ring to pinion relationship. So, in short, if the cross pin that holds the spider gears clears the ring gear, then the installation would be a piece of cake. If not, then it will take a little longer, but is still worth the results! On road, the only time I really notice it is when I am trying to pull out onto a road (turning either direction) and at the same time going uphill. At this point the locker is loaded and will not release. This causes the tires to chirp. It is also slightly noticeable under hard acceleration or deacceleration. It may pull to one side while accelerating, then pull the other direction when slowing down. This is due to the ratcheting "slop" in the mechanism. One note on the Lock-Right. It is probably ok, if you are not too rough on it. But in a heavy vehicle like a FSJ, with a strong engine, it would not be as durable as a Detroit Locker. I love the locker in mine and would never go back to open. Ron[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 01:14:26 -0600 From: Alan Bennett <bennetta-at-ns.nque.com> Subject: Re: BSEE/BSME/BSCE/BS and just plain ole' BS David Greenwell wrote: > > Being the past owner of a BroncoII and the brother of an owner of two > Troopers, > Dave G. > Dallas TX > WOW! You can still buy State Troopers in Texas!!!!! How Much??? Sorry I couldn't resist. ;-)[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 02:19:55 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: 4wd w/ open axles... > >It is called a Lock-Right. I installed one in my "other" Jeep. Lockers >do "help a whole bunch", especially in twisty situations (one tire in >the air), or anytime one side of the axle has less traction than the >other. > Hi Ron, So what's this unit cost? Thanks, Joe- >[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 02:32:33 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: sunroof/moonroof To answer a question that was asked. The difference in a sunroof and moonroof. A sunroof has a removeable glass panel or one that pops up in the rear. It has no cover or shade inside. A moonroof has a glass panel that usually drops down a bit and slides back into the top. It has an inside cover or shade. The elec moonroof in our Pontiac has a small air dam that pops up when the glass opens, the glass retracts into the top VERY quiet at highway speeds, no air enters the car. This one will also pop up in the rear so it can be used while raining. It has an electric operated inside cover, when closed you can't tell the roof opens at all. Way cool. Especially for us smokers :-) C'ya Joe -off subject again-[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 02:35:23 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: center caps Ok, who needed the center cap for a Cherokee? I find I have one to spare, the thick edged type. Let me know. Joe- ******************************************************** *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown- parts donor * *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/ * ******************************************************** HAPPY Holi-Daze!!!![Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 08:52:33 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frank_Alm=E5s?=" <falmaas-at-online.no> Subject: SV: SV: Question about lift > Thanks Frank for all the info. Got one more question, > Would this project had been easier if it were a wide > track Cherokee? With the flares and wider wheel openings? > > Have a great weekend in Norway! > > C'ya > Joe > Indy > > Thank you Joe Fitting the bigger tires would have been easier on wide-track, but the off road ability are the same on the different models Merry Christmas Frank Norway > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
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