Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:04:43 -0500 (EST) From: john <john-at-cafe.> Subject: Re: Diesel Engine Swaps I have some literature from cummins on the B18, 4cyl diesel for UPS trucks... spendy... it's a little turbo.. can't recall the exact price. the cummins used in the dodges use an Allison AT. the cummins in teh GW was the cyl... major job to get it in... the B18 is shorter than the dodge/6cyl version but as tall... I wouldn't want to try to fit either into a GW... the 4 cyl our FSJ friend in Nebraska has may be a little too tall... we'll have to see when he has time to get all the particulars... btw, I wouldn't fire that thing up without it being in a solid frame or bolted to concrete... I've seen volvo 4 bangers get up and flip over just with the starter... a Diesel has incredible torque... you'd hurt something or someone... I'll start looking into Diesels that are available... and what their reputations are... Hey another cool idea for a suzyq, a 2.5L, at, nv242... That way it'll be a jeep in sheeps clothing... oh, yeah, use the jeep axles too maybe... :) john[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:15:14 +0100 From: "R. Laureano" <rotil-at-premier1.net> Subject: Need Grill for 80 Wag Anyone got a spare grill in good condition they want to get rid of? I need it for an 80 Wag. I'm not sure what years fit what, and am not picky on style though I've picked up there are some styles people seem to gravitate to (I'm open for suggestions here :-)!) Anyway, the local yard didn't have any so I thought to air this request out. Roti ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No more is our cause in peril, than when a man seeing no evidence of God still chooses to believe in him" Elder Demon to his nephew - C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters ------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ro[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:04:49 -0800 (PST) From: Thomas Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: M-715 At 10:04 AM 2/12/97 -0600, you wrote: >GypsyLive-at-aol.com wrote: >> >> In a message dated 97-02-11 23:22:20 EST, you write: >> >> << Suzuki Samari's >> >> ive been looking for one of these...they are cheap, reliable... AC and they >> get 30 mpg... >> > >You forgot to mention underpowered (in stock 1.3 l. form) cold as he** >in the winter, underpowered, AC ? not on mine, underpowered, I have >never >been able to get 30 mpg, lets see and underpowered. Wanna buy one? > >Alan Bennett > Hey! You know what else? I heard they're underpowered! Tom Anhalt '81 Wide-Track Cherokee Laredo '65 Buick Special Convertible Santa Barbara, CA[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:13:50 -0800 (PST) From: Thomas Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Rough Idle At 09:40 AM 2/12/97 -0800, you wrote: >check for vacuum leaks... Old Blue idles pretty smooth, most >V-8's will... vacuum has to be tight as a drum though... spray >carb cleaner around different fittings, etc. if you notice a change >in the engine (it's running of course) then you have a leak... > >just replace ALL the rubber lines under the hood, it's easier than >troubleshooting... that's what I did to fix Old Blue... > >john > Don't forget to spray carb cleaner around the base of your carb and around the throttle shaft bushings. This is how I found out I needed a remanufactured carb. Worn throttle shaft bushings leads to a condition generically known as a "slobbering Holley". In my case it was a Carter. Just another vacuum leak source. Tom Anhalt '81 Wide-Track Cherokee Laredo '65 Buick Special Convertible Santa Barbara, CA[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:28:19 -0600 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Re: Suzuki Samurais Check out this months (March 1997) Four-Wheeler (or is it 4-Wheel and Off-Road?) and they have sources for all kinds of Sami parts. Spring-overs seem to be common on these machines. jeff[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:52:43 -0600 From: "JenHen" <jenhen-at-neca.com> Subject: Re: wish list for NORMAL FSJ's... :) Where are you, again? Anywhere near the east? I'd love to see that! Also, can you give me the address for the GS Club? Thanks! Henry ---------- > From: M_B_FEICK <rdmbfe-at-micro.lucent.com> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: Re: wish list for NORMAL FSJ's... :) > Date: Tuesday, February 11, 1997 9:11 PM > > It's great having a Buick fanatic around! Now, Brad, about that 455 > project... > Henry > >>>>>>>>>> > Yeah I'm going to stick the cherry trans guts I just got into my Buick th400, > and a guy I work with is going to provide me with 67 430 heads which flow > almost as good as hard to get Stage 1s. Add one Lunati cam from the GS club > and Jacobs ign. in combo with GM HEI, stir in some port matching and garnish > with one Brad Urbanski Q-Jet. HOWZAT?!! > Brad Feick[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:50:58 -0600 From: "JenHen" <jenhen-at-neca.com> Subject: Re: new England Right here, Mike. I'm in CT. Where are you? Henry ---------- > From: Mike Gibson <magibltd-at-seacoast.com> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: new England > Date: Wednesday, February 12, 1997 11:09 AM > > looking for any New England members > > Mike Gibson > magibltd-at-seacoast.com > where the jeeps get bigger > http://www.seacoast.com/~magibltd/jeep.html[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:48:34 -0600 From: "JenHen" <jenhen-at-neca.com> Subject: Re: LA visit Where at, Ken? I'm from Palmdale. Henry ---------- > From: kenns <kenns-at-concentric.net> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: Re: LA visit > Date: Monday, February 10, 1997 6:43 PM > > canyon country, isnt that off 138?? > > im goin to an 4x4 event on the 21 near palmdale!![Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:46:14 -0500 From: "David P. Dusenbury" <dp-at-interpath.com> Subject: Re: Diesel Engine Swaps > Good Point, So what I need then would be a M-715 with a swapped in Diesel. M.A.R.S. sells a Hercules 4cyl Diesel for bolt-in to an M715. But you need to regear - a Diesel can't do the RPM's needed for 5.88 R&P. (MARS suggests 4.56) About seven or eight grand in parts!!! > What about one of the above Diesels to the 4 speed found in the M-715? The M715 has a divorced transfer case. Use any engine/trans you want! DP...[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:35:43 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: Need Grill for 80 Wag
Roti,
I'm looking for a Cherokee style grille, 81 and up... If I find
one then I'd sell you the one off of Old Blue reasonable like... :)
later,
john
At 11:15 AM 2/12/97 +0100, R. Laureano wrote:
>Anyone got a spare grill in good condition they want to get rid of? I need
>it for an 80 Wag. I'm not sure what years fit what, and am not picky on
>style though I've picked up there are some styles people seem to gravitate
>to (I'm open for suggestions here :-)!) Anyway, the local yard didn't have
>any so I thought to air this request out.
>
>Roti
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:43:36 -0600 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Re: Rough Idle On Feb 12, 2:13pm, Thomas Anhalt wrote: > Subject: Re: Rough Idle > > Don't forget to spray carb cleaner around the base of your carb and around > the throttle shaft bushings. This is how I found out I needed a > remanufactured carb. Worn throttle shaft bushings leads to a condition > generically known as a "slobbering Holley". In my case it was a Carter. > Just another vacuum leak source. > > Tom Anhalt > >-- End of excerpt from Thomas Anhalt Yeah, I've done that too...didn't notice a leak anywhere around the carb. Maybe a new PCV valve grommet and fix my exhaust leak. The thing is, if I had a vacuum leak I shouldn't have had such a high, steady vacuum reading (21" Hg). I'm corn-fused. Jeff[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 13:43:55 -0800 From: kenns <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: wish list for NORMAL FSJ's... :) a big gaint BB car, big slicks and side pipes, as a commuter only!! no race or show!! M_B_FEICK wrote: > > it would be ok for a comunter, but thats about it > >>>>>>>>> > I don't follow- OK for a commuter? Don't get it... > Brad Feick > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > -- Sincerely kenneth e. wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 13:54:55 -0800 From: kenns <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: CJ Thoughts no...jeepster, its bigger wider safer, stabler, can take more mods, and a bigger mil!! Rick Terhune wrote: > > Good Morning to All! > > Michael - Cool story about being power deficient at 9,000 feet. > Sort of puts a breakdown on the interstate in perspective. > > Joe - If you build a CJ for your daughter you will probably have to beg to > drive it. My daughters have my '85 CJ-7 and drive it daily. > I only get to drive it on the weekends!!!! > Hard to get even then, especially as weather warms up. > Would suggest a CJ-7 or CJ-8 as 5 is too short and squirrely for kids to > drive. Wrangler would work here too. -- Sincerely kenneth e. wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:01:25 -0800 From: kenns <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: LA visit well the base camp for this event is at totem pole ranch, at the corners of barrel springs rod and cheeseboro rd!! JenHen wrote: > > Where at, Ken? I'm from Palmdale. > > Henry > -- Sincerely kenneth e. wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 97 14:04:02 -0800 From: bks-at-co.intel.com Subject: Looked at an 82 Wagoneer Hey gang, I've been wanting one real bad, and today on my way back to work I saw one sittin in a parking lot with a for sale sign in it. I whipped in to take a look. The sign only had a phone number, so I was writing it down when the owner walked up. He was on his way to lunch, and I was late for work, so I just got some of the basic info from him, and his phone number. I would like to know if you guys think it sounds like an okay deal, and I have a few other questions about it. First, the info: - 82 wagonerr brahm (not too sure how to spell the brahm part..) - 360V8, quadratrac - model 20 rear end - body look straight -- no dents that I saw in a quick look over (or rust for that matter, but this is oregon and rust isn't usually a problem. - dual tanks of some sort. It only has one filler, but he said it has two 20 gallon tanks with a swith on the dash. This obviously isn't factory. - 4 inch suspention lift. Blocks in the back. He told me the manufacurer, but I can't remember. - Said about 18 mpg on the hwy. I figure this is completely meaningless info. - Interior looked good, but I was just looking through the windows. - Electric windows and door locks. - Paint chiped in some places. I kinda like it that way anyway. Makes it look expierienced. - Recently passed DEQ inspection. - Asking $3495. Which quadratrack is this? Is it the early borg wanner unit with the limited slip, or is it the latter model? I'm thinkin it is the later model because the rear pumkin is in the middle of the rear end, and not offset to the passenger side. Does this sound like a good price (not knowing any more info)? As he drove off, it sounded good. He did say the tranny needs services, because he has never had that done. What do you guys think? Any advice before I go give it a spin? Thanks, -brad[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:57:24 +0100 From: "Frank" <falmaas-at-online.no> Subject: SV: Jeep Name and Oil Pressure Major confusion Staying at 100 kph, I lose pressure > climbing a hill and go back to what I think is normal (about 40) going down > a hill. So, you loose pressure when the oil gets hot and gain pressure when it cools down. Whats the pressure at the lowest? What brand oil? I also looses pressure with hot oil but it stays well abow 10 psi pr. 1000 RPM so I'm happy with it. Maybe another viscosity and brand oil would do the trick? Frank Norway[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:03:21 +0100 From: "Frank" <falmaas-at-online.no> Subject: SV: AMC V-8 parts interchangeability ---------- > Fra: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> > Til: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Emne: AMC V-8 parts interchangeability > Dato: 10. februar 1997 09:57 > > Hey everyone, I'm working on the every thing you ever wanted to know about > AMC V-8 parts interchangeability but were afraid to ask FAQ. If you know > something from the other manufacturers that will interchange on a AMC V-8, I > want to hear from you via e-mail. > Valve springs: Ford 351C - 351M - 400 Ford BB 352 - 428, 429 - 460 Lifters: Chrysler SB and BB Push rods: Chevy SB Pistons: Some Fords (Not seen it, just heard it) Frank Norway[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:13:57 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: CJ Thoughts At 01:54 PM 2/11/97 -0800, you wrote: >no...jeepster, its bigger wider safer, stabler, can take more >mods, and a bigger mil!! > Ok Ken, what's a Jeepster? Joe-[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:38:29 -0800 From: Joe Schaefer <joes-at-olympus.net> Subject: Dsl's All this dsl talk has got me curious. (yeah, I'm like john, an oil burner fan too. :) John and Alan a few months ago were discussing a Perkins in WA? Was that one that came out of an early CJ? Not a huge Perkins fan but hey it IS an oil burner :) Thanks, -jj[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 97 17:35:59 EST From: rdmbfe-at-micro.lucent.com (M_B_FEICK) Subject: Re: wish list for NORMAL FSJ's... :) a big gaint BB car, big slicks and side pipes, as a commuter only!! no race or show!! >>>>>>>>>> I THINK I get it now (but not sure) however Mr. Beef will not be used as a commuter-gots a nice Civic fer those chores (40 mpg)- I have to use Beef for some landscaping in my yard, and the Pa. winters more than afford the opportunity for 4wd. Not to mention the pipeline cut outs that transverse the Appalacians here-lots of fun but the State troopers frown when you do that... Theres something very practical about the torque aspect of the Buick. Brad Feick[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:01:31 -0700 From: Steve_Rosewarne-at-wink.com Subject: Need parts...... Thanks for all the input on lift kits. I am currently looking at going up 2" with a new front & back spring set. This seemed to be the most stable/safe solution, but might prove to be prohibitively expensive when compared to add-a-leafs with blocks. Most of my 4 Wheeling is done in the snow so it may be overkill to spend the extra $. If I want another inch later I can do it with larger tires. Dennis & John -- I agree it is shameful that I do not have any pictures of my truck, but since I bought it in August I have spent all my cash fixing it and there isn't any leftover to have my film developed =;^^)> I have a scanner and will send you some photos as soon as I finish my current roll of film and digitize them. By the way, I have some Web design experience (go ahead Steve, jump) and if I can be of any assistance, let me know. QUESTIONS..... Does anyone know a mechanic in the San Francisco Bay Area that is FSJ savvy? Or are there any members in the area that could give me some pointers on finding parts around here? (Ken. W. or the fire hydrant guy?) Can anyone recommend a windguard that will work for the sunroof on an 88 GW? PARTS.... I need a shift indicator (the little red pin on the steering column that indicates R P D 1 2 when you move the gearshift). To get a new one I would have to order the entire housing and mounting apparatus. If anyone has a GW that they are using for parts that might have one of these, I would appreciate it. I also need to replace the servo component for my cruise control. Someone tried to steal my precious GW last week by busting the casing on the steering column with a screwdriver and breaking the lock on the ignition switch (apparently this is easy to do on a GM steering column). In the process, they somehow set off the horn and in an absurd attempt to shut it off, they popped the hood and began to randomely clip wires and pull vaccum hoses. When this didn't work, they mistook the servo unit for the horn and beat the #$%&!!! out of it. This failed (for obvious reasons) and they had to disconnect the battery to turn it off (Apparently my GW did NOT want to be stolen). Now the truck won't start and that it is how I found it. This speaks volumes about the intelligence level of people who would rather steal someone else's car than earn one. Confusing the cruise control with the horn (while the horn is blaring) ? If anyone has one in working order I would be happy to purchase it. New ones, I'm told, are running aprx. $110.00. One more thing, the would-be thief broke in through the "smoker" window on the passenger side and bent the lever that rotates to keep the window snugly closed. It does not seem to want to bend back. Does anyone have an extra bottom mounting for the passenger side triangular window? Thanks, Steve Rosewarne '88 Grand Wagoneer[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:13:24 -0800 From: Joe Schaefer <joes-at-olympus.net> Subject: Re: CJ Thoughts At 17:13 12-02-97 -0500, you wrote: >At 01:54 PM 2/11/97 -0800, you wrote: >>no...jeepster, its bigger wider safer, stabler, can take more >>mods, and a bigger mil!! >> >Ok Ken, what's a Jeepster? > >Joe- Joe, this a MUST do. http://www.off-road.com/jeepster/ -jj[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:19:27 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: CJ Thoughts the jeepster is the next size up from a CJ but smaller than an FSJ, but then they stopped makin em in 83 :( Joe Sego wrote: > > At 01:54 PM 2/11/97 -0800, you wrote: > >no...jeepster, its bigger wider safer, stabler, can take more > >mods, and a bigger mil!! > > > Ok Ken, what's a Jeepster? > > Joe- > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > -- Sincerely kenneth e. wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:19:40 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: CJ Thoughts er make that 73!!! -- Sincerely kenneth e. wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:18:48 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: Looked at an 82 Wagoneer At 02:04 PM 2/12/97 -0800, you wrote: > > >Hey gang, > >I've been wanting one real bad, and today on my way back to work I saw one would > >First, the info: > >- 82 wagonerr brahm (not too sure how to spell the brahm part..) >- 360V8, quadratrac >- model 20 rear end >- body look straight -- no dents that I saw in a quick look over (or rust > for that matter, but this is oregon and rust isn't usually a problem. >- dual tanks of some sort. It only has one filler, but he said it has two > 20 gallon tanks with a swith on the dash. This obviously isn't factory. Two tanks will come in handy, you can stop at every other gas station :-) > - 4 inch suspention lift. Blocks in the back. He told me the manufacurer, > but I can't remember. >- Said about 18 mpg on the hwy. I figure this is completely meaningless info. Yep >- Interior looked good, but I was just looking through the windows. >- Electric windows and door locks. Check those electronics...especially the tailgate! >- Paint chiped in some places. I kinda like it that way anyway. Makes it > look expierienced. >- Recently passed DEQ inspection. >- Asking $3495. > Price way too high for my part of the country. But maybe ok out there. >Does this sound like a good price (not knowing any more info)? As he >drove off, it sounded good. He did say the tranny needs services, because >he has never had that done. > >What do you guys think? Any advice before I go give it a spin? > >Thanks, > >-brad > Brad, take a look at the FSJ Buying FAQ on the web page that Michael and I wrote. It just about covers it all. C'ya Joe- 79 Chief[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:25:32 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: '77 Quadra-Trac to ? trans case swap the QT tc only fit the back of the AMC th400. too change tranies, means to change the tc! :( John Armentrout wrote: > > Anyone out there have any idea what trans case would > fit in a 77 Wagoneer that currently has a Quadra-Trac > and a 360ci w/ automatic? I would like a manual one, > as this one is getting tired... > > John -- Sincerely kenneth e. wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:29:42 -0800 From: Joe Schaefer <joes-at-olympus.net> Subject: Re: Need parts...... At 15:01 12-02-97 -0700, you wrote: >PARTS.... > >I need a shift indicator (the little red pin on the steering column that >indicates R P D 1 2 when you move the gearshift). To get a new one I would >have to order the entire housing and mounting apparatus. >Thanks, > >Steve Rosewarne Steve, Can you get to where the little red thing should be? I painted and glued a tooth pick to the speedo as a needle in a 50 Chevy PU and it was working fine 3 years later when I sold it. Just a thought... -jj (I used to be really low rent :)[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:28:37 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: Need parts...... >PARTS.... > >I need a shift indicator (the little red pin on the steering column that >indicates R P D 1 2 when you move the gearshift). To get a new one I would >have to order the entire housing and mounting apparatus. If anyone has > Hey I need that same part...I use the 'feel' system for finding the gears! Joe- 79 Chief[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 97 18:28:55 EST From: rdmbfe-at-micro.lucent.com (M_B_FEICK) Subject: Henry Where are you, again? Anywhere near the east? I'd love to see that! Also, can you give me the address for the GS Club? Thanks! Henry >>>>>>>> Near Reading, Pa. I'm about 1.75 hr NW of Philthydelphia. Yeah, I'd love to see it too! I have decided to keep that 258 if John decides against it. The shipping is murder... Anyway depending on how it goes I might not get the 455 built this summer. I didn't expect to find all the body and electrical I just did all at once- it takes the project to a new level. I WAS gonna just make the body presentable and spray the interior and exterior, but now I've got alot of near virgin stuff, so I've decided to strip the interior and start from leak checking and windsheild out to putting on my refurbished with new heater core metal heater box and replacing all the electrics, etc. The point being it looks like I'm going to use the 258 to power Mr. Beef until the 455 gets completed. Why? Because the 258 has low miles and quite frankly I must agree with somebody's estimation on the list that the 360 is a grease slapper. (I laughed for a half hour at that...) I have much more confidence in the 6. I would like to ride in say Jim the Mechanics (BTW where's he been?) Cherokee to give the 360 design a fair chance. However if you look at the numbers the 360 got what a best of 265 ft lbs of torque or something? The 455 which is only 95 more cubes but 245 more ft lbs in rating in Stage1 trim! The 455 also weighs less than the Chevy small block. This of course is not to say that they (360s) don't last or whatever you may be reading into this. And, it IS neat to see a vehicle like Jim's that has the correct motor design in it, I had just envisioned that big wide red U-joint snappin' Buick in there. Besides I'm doin' Mr. Beef a favor-esp. now that with all of the cool parts I have ready I essentially bought a frame, dana rears and a cab (that needed doors). All the other body parts except for the drivers inner fender well and rad support will be an import to Mr. Beef. Not to mention that I have a buddy who just MUST have my 360 because it is a new short block. Well, OK then. BUY my 360 so I can put a torque cam in the 258 with a hotter coil and new pan and timing cover gaskets. See what I care! This way I can drive the J for most of the time I'm re-doing stuff. (I can see this-gotta bolt one bucket seat in it and roll up the windows with vice grips to go to the As for the 455 I'm going to put my money where my mouth is and just freshen the bearings and seals and rings/improve the oil pump/port match the heads and go for it. Of course I'm going to check the cyl. for trueness and the deck surface of the block, but they should be OK or at least useable. I'm not wringing out every last bit of performance out of this 455 so it's not like I wanna wind it-won't have to-specially with the 4:09 gears in his royal Beefness. I did make sure to get a 455 that ran smoothly to begin with-so there should be no problems. I am glad that a few of you are intersted in this-there are several cool trucks between us-I would like to have one of them. I do not intend to "down" anybody's choice of motor, and if you think Buicks suck, then it is certainly your right to be wrong. Uh what I meant to say is er uh... I DO think it's cool that someone has a bowtie 350 with FI in thier Jeep, I also like the idea of Jim's hopped up 360. It all depends on your application, and for my needs the 455 fits the bill. Brad Feick[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:48:40 -0500 (EST) From: GypsyLive-at-aol.com Subject: Re: CJ Thoughts Ok Ken, maybe you can answer this question ive had for a while, Ive seen older commandos, or jeepsters (I cant tell the diff!) with a front grill that looks really close to an early chevy blazers grill? What gives here?[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:29:06 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: Looked at an 82 Wagoneer
sounds good at that price... it's a NP219, same thing
that's in Old Blue... 18mpg is possible... Old Blue actually
got 14mpg running AMSOIL synthetic oil...
john
At 02:04 PM 2/12/97 -0800, bks-at-co.intel.com wrote:
>
>
>Hey gang,
>
>I've been wanting one real bad, and today on my way back to work I saw one
>sittin in a parking lot with a for sale sign in it. I whipped in to take
>a look. The sign only had a phone number, so I was writing it down when the
>owner walked up. He was on his way to lunch, and I was late for work, so
>I just got some of the basic info from him, and his phone number. I would
>like to know if you guys think it sounds like an okay deal, and I have a
>few other questions about it.
>
>First, the info:
>
>- 82 wagonerr brahm (not too sure how to spell the brahm part..)
>- 360V8, quadratrac
>- model 20 rear end
>- body look straight -- no dents that I saw in a quick look over (or rust
> for that matter, but this is oregon and rust isn't usually a problem.
>- dual tanks of some sort. It only has one filler, but he said it has two
> 20 gallon tanks with a swith on the dash. This obviously isn't factory.
>- 4 inch suspention lift. Blocks in the back. He told me the manufacurer,
> but I can't remember.
>- Said about 18 mpg on the hwy. I figure this is completely meaningless info.
>- Interior looked good, but I was just looking through the windows.
>- Electric windows and door locks.
>- Paint chiped in some places. I kinda like it that way anyway. Makes it
> look expierienced.
>- Recently passed DEQ inspection.
>- Asking $3495.
>
>Which quadratrack is this? Is it the early borg wanner unit with the
>limited slip, or is it the latter model? I'm thinkin it is the later
>model because the rear pumkin is in the middle of the rear end, and not
>offset to the passenger side.
>
>Does this sound like a good price (not knowing any more info)? As he
>drove off, it sounded good. He did say the tranny needs services, because
>he has never had that done.
>
>What do you guys think? Any advice before I go give it a spin?
>
>Thanks,
>
>-brad
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:37:52 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: CJ Thoughts
Jeepsters are cool. Don't you remember them from the late 60's???
Convertibles, or removeable hardtops... kinda like Scouts only nicer and
sportier...
john
At 05:13 PM 2/12/97 -0500, Joe Sego wrote:
>At 01:54 PM 2/11/97 -0800, you wrote:
>>no...jeepster, its bigger wider safer, stabler, can take more
>>mods, and a bigger mil!!
>>
>Ok Ken, what's a Jeepster?
>
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:39:03 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: Dsl's
jj, the perkins is out in Nebraska... It's in Alan's fiancee's father's
old Chevy pu at a friends house... or something like that...
john
At 02:38 PM 2/12/97 -0800, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>All this dsl talk has got me curious. (yeah, I'm like john, an oil burner
>fan too. :)
>
>John and Alan a few months ago were discussing a Perkins in WA? Was that
>one that came out of an early CJ?
>Not a huge Perkins fan but hey it IS an oil burner :)
>
>Thanks,
>-jj
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:04:05 -0700
From: Steve_Rosewarne-at-wink.com
Subject: Re: Need parts......
I may have to give that a shot.
SR
At 15:01 12-02-97 -0700, you wrote:
>PARTS....
>
>I need a shift indicator (the little red pin on the steering column that
>indicates R P D 1 2 when you move the gearshift). To get a new one I
would >have to order the entire housing and mounting apparatus.
>Thanks,
>
>Steve Rosewarne
Steve,
Can you get to where the little red thing should be? I painted and glued a
tooth pick to the speedo as a needle in a 50 Chevy PU and it was working
fine 3 years later when I sold it.
Just a thought...
-jj (I used to be really low rent :)
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:45:45 -0800
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Subject: Re: Sunroof Deflector...
At 03:01 PM 2/12/97 -0700, Steve_Rosewarne-at-wink.com wrote:
>
>Can anyone recommend a windguard that will work for the sunroof on an 88
>GW?
I found one at a sunroof shop up here in the Seattle area, just haven't
made it back to buy it... Old Blue needs one too...
I didn't think people stoled GW's???!!!! Of course, I must remember
two things... 1) you're in California, and 2) you're in SF...
all bets on normalcy are off... (no offense...) It's often said that
California is like a bowl of Raisin Bran, if you remove the fruits and nuts
all your left with is flakes... I don't know, I haven't met anybody in CA I
didn't like...
Californians sure get a bad rap up here... I've even heard pastors in
sermons talk about seeing a sign near the Oregon border that said, leaving
California, resume normal behaviour... Now I've looked for it, but never
seen it... :)
I'll be in LA on Fri/Sat... in disguise... :)
later,
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:46:43 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: CJ Thoughts
yeah, I was gonna start looking for one... :) I saw one out
in a field a few years back... I wonder if it's still there... :)
john
At 03:19 PM 2/12/97 -0800, Kenneth E. Wetherall wrote:
>er make that 73!!!
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:53:53 -0600 (CST) From: takacsf-at-ionet.net Subject: Re: CJ Thoughts I believe the last Jeepster was built in the early 70's? frank >the jeepster is the next size up from a CJ but smaller than an FSJ, >but then they stopped makin em in 83 :( > >Joe Sego wrote: >> >> At 01:54 PM 2/11/97 -0800, you wrote: >> >no...jeepster, its bigger wider safer, stabler, can take more >> >mods, and a bigger mil!! >> > >> Ok Ken, what's a Jeepster? >> >> Joe- >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >> "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. >> >> > >-- > Sincerely > > kenneth e. wetherall > kenns-at-concentric.net > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 19:08:10 -0500 From: "Dave Read"<DSREAD-at-hewitt.com> Subject: Re: Diesel Engine Swaps >> Those Navistar engines are made about 3/4 miles from my house. >> Maybe they give free samples? Sure, Buy a $30,000 F350, get a free Navistar Diesel. I'm an International nut also, was this once an IH plant? What City is this? Dave[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 20:14:14 -0500 From: jenhen-at-neca.com (Jen Hen) Subject: Re: LA visit Near Littlerock Dam, eh? Sounds like you might be doing the Santiago Trail? Henry At 2:01 PM 2/11/97, kenns wrote: >well the base camp for this event is at totem pole ranch, at the >corners of barrel springs rod and cheeseboro rd!! > >JenHen wrote: >> >> Where at, Ken? I'm from Palmdale. >> >> Henry >> > >-- > Sincerely > > kenneth e. wetherall > kenns-at-concentric.net > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > ============================================================= Henry & Jennifer Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer; Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser '89 Jeep Cherokee Laredo home: jenhen-at-neca.com work: hpadilla-at-dttus.com[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 20:42:40 -0600 From: "JenHen" <jenhen-at-neca.com> Subject: Re: 88 GW for sale (Boston) Paul, as you may know I'm in CT. We're taking Jen's car in to the dealer to have the transmission checked out. If it's terminal then we're going to get another car rather than fix hers. So we may be in the mkt for another vehicle beginning nxt wk. If that's the case, I would probably want to take a look at your Wag. A late model Wag would be nice and roomy for Jen and the kids. And i think the blue w/ woodgrain is the best color for the GWags. If it's still available nxt weekend, I might be over for a look! Henry ---------- > From: Paul Girouard <paulg-at-opengroup.org> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: 88 GW for sale (Boston) > Date: Monday, February 10, 1997 3:16 PM > > > Hello all, > > I'm planning on trading in my 88 GW shortly, so if anyone is > interested, let me know. As many of you have, I've had a love/hate > relationship with this thing, so I'm ready to cut my loses and > get rid of it. > > Let me explain: > The oil was leaking badly from the rear main seal and some of the > other seals, so I recently spent $600. on getting all the seals done. > Immediately after (when my wife picked it up from the garage) having > the seals done, we started getting a knock in the engine. If the seal > work hadn't been done by a mechanic who is a friend of mine, I'd be > kind of upset that it happened right after we picked it up from the > garage. Maybe it was just a coincidence, I don't know. I took it back > to the mechanic and had him check it out. He felt badly that this knock > started happening right after he did the seal work, but said he didn't do > anything that would have caused that. He thinks it's a rod making the > knocking sound. So at this point I'm not willing to put anymore money > into it. I'd just like to get rid of it and cut my loses. I guess that > means that I'm not a real FSJ'er if I'm not willing to keep putting > time and money into it :)) > > So if anyone is interested, let me know. Otherwise I'm planning on > trading it in on something newer in the near future. > > It does have the Trac-Loc diff., the power sunroof, and no rust. > Power seats, windows, and door locks all work. I have had some > trouble with the rear window, but I suspect the key switch. > > The trade in value is $4675. but because of the knock, I would be > willing to take $3675. as is. > > Here are all the details: > > > 1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer > ------------------------ > > Blue with woodgrain sides > tan leather interior > 360 v8, 94k miles > Power sunroof > Trac-Loc axle > Car phone (will sell w/ or w/o phone) > Roof rack > New Hidden Hitch class 2 reciever. > No rust > > Located in Boston area. > > 617-621-8884 > paulg-at-osf.org > > > Let me know if you are interested, > > -Paul G. > > > > =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= > No Jesus, no peace : Know Jesus, know peace > Acts 4:12, Phil. 3:7-14 > =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
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