Date: 08 Jan 97 23:15:58 EST
From: "DOROTHY I. STREICH" <104346.766-at-CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: BW QT Differential
>>> Yup, BW-1339. I'm pretty sure MileMarker does not make a rebuild kit for the
Q-T's diff. Might try to call directly to Borg-Warner. I think they have a Web
page somewhere? <<<
Don't waste your time. Talked to them and they said that they produced enough
spare parts to last forever and sold everything to mopar. They have nothing
relating to QT.
Off the subject, anyone catch Vanishing Point last night? Anyone out there a
Mopar Musclecar fan? Allways wanted a Charger, now I want a Chalanger
too...Both Hemi cars :]
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79 Chief, And a Charger, someday
[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 20:24:32 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: The Chief :-) OH stick a needle in my eye for caring!!!!!!!! :( -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 20:28:09 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: more storm pictures posted...
I got to a scanner again... :)
I've got all the new pictures loaded into:
http://www./~john/JEEP/stormpix.html
this rascal takes a long time to load... sorry, all jpg files
all loaded at once... the final product will be easier on ya... :)
Will probably be removing any redundant or less than perfect pictures,
figure I'd put them all there for the time being until I can get them
placed in some text...
you can get there by going to my JEEP page, selecting either
the escape story or the 18 wheel thing... links at bottom of
those pages to stormpix...
http://www./~john/JEEP/JEEP.html
keep checking the pages, will be tweaking HTML for a couple of weeks
with the new stuff... You might want to wander back to my home page
and check it out... I keep adding stuff and playing around with different
ideas.
oh, yeah, hey Billy, tell Lowell he'll like one of the pictures on
the stormpix page... you'll understand... :)
enjoy...
later,
john
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88 wag ltd-"the little wagoneer" 4.0L,4spat,np242,235's -an XJ
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 23:51:18 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: BW QT Differential Brad said; >internals to fix) needs a properly working QT diff, need to combine 3 inst. >panels into one good one, needs a windsheild gasket etc. etc. etc. >But ya know what? I love it! >When it's done it'll have mostly new stuff, be real reliable, tuff as nails >and will cost me about $3k when it's in shiny new paint! Not bad for a 3/4 >ton 4wd. > >Brad Feick > I know what you mean Brad, My list isn't as lengthy as yours (yet). But it sounds like you are going it up right, must be a keeper! While talking to Mick today on the phone, I asked him the question I have asked so many times...."what is it with these things that attract us to them like a magnet?" Example this latest fiasco with the Cherokee.....NO WAY would I have put that kind of effort out for our car, my van whatever. Before I'd do all that to my precious Chevy van I'd trade it in on a new one. Hey maybe thats it...Jeep doesn't make em anymore? My son told me tonite he saw a guy putting For Sale signs on a j-10 and a Cherokee or Wag. Sign said Good Parts. I may have to plow my way by there tomorrow, maybe one of them has a 401 that I would love to rebuild and put in. :-) Besides I'd love to have a second snow pusher!! C'ya Joe- >>Anyway, I was asking about rebuilding one and they told me they buy a > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > > ******************************************************** *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown- parts donor * *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/ * ********************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:00:44 -0500 (EST) From: GypsyLive-at-aol.com Subject: Re: Inner & outer locknuts The tool for a dana 44 is around $17 dollars at Auto-Zone, you will need some snapring pliars also, and there is a hidden snap ring that goes in the outer circumference of the hub that threw me for a loop! I bent a coat hanger at a sharp angle then sharpened the tip, it slides that big snapring right out![Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 00:00:04 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: The Chief :-) At 08:24 PM 1/8/97 -0800, you wrote: >OH stick a needle in my eye for caring!!!!!!!! :( >-- > Sincerely > > Kenneth Wetherall > kenns-at-concentric.net Come on Ken....just kidding.....touche'[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:18:36 -0500 (EST) From: GypsyLive-at-aol.com Subject: Re: Grand Wagoneer Stall Speed It was really hard fo rme to find the proper converter for my 1980 727, it was $100 dollars, some shops can cut them in half and rebuild them, that costs about the same, but Can only really be done once, sometimes twice.. Shouldnt be to hard to put in just a converter, but I would pull it out enought to look at that front pump bushing, ill bet its worn and a new converter will cause a leak.. also check the flexplate really good NOW is the time to swap it if its bad![Back to Top]
Date: 09 Jan 97 01:05:12 EST From: Edwin Pedersen <102551.2631-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Our Mexican FSJ'er Eduardo, I think you are talking about the valve cover. On the newer sixes this was a real problem with leakage on the plastic covers. It was discussed in some detail on the OFF-ROAD List. I'll see if I can find those msgs and re-post to the list. Ed Pedersen Maple Ridge B.C. Canada '79 Cherokee Wide Track QT AT I6 169,900 miles Dana 44's 3.54 gears with Low Range Reduction Unit Factory bush bar[Back to Top]
Date: 09 Jan 97 02:13:45 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: coil voltages Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> writes: >> Basically I am asking will I hurt it if I hot wire with 12v direct from battery? From Jack's measurements the answer is no. << Oh...you figured-out you can't do that already. >> Last question (ha!) the 2 small posts on the solenoid, one post has red wire to coil, the other post has blue wire from ign switch (I think) With the key on, I do not have any voltage at either post. Sounds like ignition switch bad? << Joe, the only time you'll have voltage on either of the little terminals on the starter solenoid is when the ignition switch is in the "start" position. >> with his truck running he had 14.7v+ on the + side of the coil. << He obviously has an internal resistor coil. YOu have a EXTERNAL resistor coil. >> Well after hooking up 12v direct to coil, it got pretty warm pretty fast. So, I got under the dash and moved the wires around near the ign switch, bingo...I hear the buzzer to fasten seat belts (switch was on) I go back to the front, check the coil voltage and it's about 6-8 volts....exactly as the book says. I need that resistor in the circuit! 6 volts +/- .5 volts with the ignition switch in the on position with the engine OFF. >> I want to drive it more than 15 miles! << It's been said plenty of times in the past. It ain't over till the fat lady sings. In other words, your FSJ goes more than 15 miles w/o stalling. Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> that butt-head who is not allowed to type after midnight violated his probation and wrote the following totally incorrect data....uh...after midnight: >> Bruce Maxwell writes: >> Yes...I had the same problem with my 1970 Cougar. It would start and run as long as I had the key in the start position. When I released the key the car would start running. The shop I took it to replaced the distributor and then the ignition switch and then finally the wire from the switch to the coil. The new wire took care of it. << That's the exact symptoms of a bad starter solenoid since it switches the 12V to the coil for starting. The main power wire to the coil from the ignition switch on FSJs is a 1.35 ohm resistance wire. << That is not the symptoms of a bad starter solenoid. I was WRONG. That is the symptoms of a bad ignition switch. -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 08-Jan-1997 !^NavFont01F0020MG_HGhMG85HGB2MH6DHHEFMIhHI67HNq897B[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:39:19 +0100 From: "Frank" <falmaas-at-online.no> Subject: SV: BW QT Differential MileMarker is found on http://www.milemarker.com/~winches/home.htm Frank Norway ---------- > Fra: M_B_FEICK <rdmbfe-at-micro.lucent.com> > Til: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Emne: Re: BW QT Differential > Dato: 09. januar 1997 05:10 > > >rebuild kit for the 1339. They did not say from where. :-( > >I will call them tomorrw and see if I can pry a name from them, OR if > >they'll sell a kit. > >Joe- > > > Yeah, please do-or somebody get me the info for Milemarker or BW's homepage, > cause I can't find either one. > Joe-don't feel alone on this problem you just had. If you remember when I > bought Mr. Beef for $500 it had alot of new parts, but the chevy head that > owned it thought it was junk, and repaired(?) it accordingly not to mention > ran it into the ground. I have weekends literally into mundane stuff like > wiring it right and improving on the factory stuff and most folk would still > say it's a pig. All my money and time so far has been directed at > mechanicals. When it finally DOES have it together though I have stuff like > an all new interior with leather seats out of a wag. and a real nice stereo > and etc. So to people who judge on cosmetics, it will seem an instant and > miraculous transformation. > I just today got the J20 back from the garage where they used my rebuilt QT > with the 60 ft. lb. diff in it. At least the 'yard tranny I got worked! Now > however, the tranny doesn't seem to be shifting into drive out of L2. > WHADDA-at-#*&!! > So far I've got all of the following brand-name or premium parts in Mr. Beef: > ALL new brakes and I mean ALL except for master cyl.(rotors/hardware/hose/etc) > Std Ign coil/cap/rotr/wires > Autolite plugs > Spicer u-joints (all) > New 360 short block (hey- came with truck) too bad 455 goes in this summer... > rebuilt 4bbl (Std Ign kit) > battery > starter relay > elec.fuel pump > tilt wheel with cleaned start and rev. switches and gear indicator that's good > man. choke convert > 9.5x16.5 "widetrack"(!) studded snows > all new bulbs, halogens > new vac lines > new hoses and belts (gates) > lots of new or refurbished wiring/sockets/switches > And the damn thing STILL has a drivers door that won't latch(have the > internals to fix) needs a properly working QT diff, need to combine 3 inst. > panels into one good one, needs a windsheild gasket etc. etc. etc. > But ya know what? I love it! > When it's done it'll have mostly new stuff, be real reliable, tuff as nails > and will cost me about $3k when it's in shiny new paint! Not bad for a 3/4 > ton 4wd. > > Brad Feick > > >Anyway, I was asking about rebuilding one and they told me they buy a > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 07:32:17 EST From: Stephen Levin <levins-at-vaxc.csps.com> Subject: Grand Wag Questions Greetings All! I am new to the list and I had a few questions for the FSJ experts out there. I have an 86 Grand Wagonner 360 Stock The questions I have are about engine performance. #1 After I have been driving for a while and then stop the GW I have a tough time starting it again unless I hold the pedal to the floor. I have spoken to a mechanic and he seems to feel that the gas is being boiled out of the fuel filter leaving no gas for the ignition process. It seems like Vapor lock to me, any suggestions? #2 What is the best dollars for performance upgrade. I would like to get better gas milage out of the 360 ( I get about 10-13 now). Should I look into a new Carb or a new ignition system and which one? Thanks in advance![Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:28:18 -0500 (EST) From: Fu Tham <tham-at-husc.harvard.edu> Subject: ID this Jeep On my way to work on my 91 Grand Wagoneer, I yield another Jeep into my lane. It is a green ZJ body jeep with wood panel wall paper on it. The on front passanger fender, I saw "Grand Wagoneer", on the tailgate on the right side saids "V8", I forget what it said on the right side. OK, now, I thought "Grand Wagoneer" name ends 92 models, could there possibly be "Grand Wagoneer"s made in Grand Chorkee body? Any owners out there? Fu[Back to Top]
Date: 9 Jan 1997 07:41:01 -0600 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Re: 1978 Jeep J-10 Levi? My '78 Cherokee 4-dr. also has the Levi's interior. The seats, front and back, are tan denim with the Levi's buttons, and the door panels have a strip of tan denim trim as well. Mine is in pretty bad shape, and I have been asking around to see who (if anyone) has had their's refurbished. Jeff[Back to Top]
Date: 9 Jan 1997 07:43:21 -0600 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Re: Inner & outer locknuts I just bought one of the tools you mentioned a week ago at Car Quest. It is a big socket that has teeth cut in it to fit on the indentions in the lock nuts. $16, which wasn't bad considering Pep Boys, Auto Zone, and the dealer all said they didn't have it. Check with a Car Quest or other independent auto parts dealer, they seem to stock more tools than the Big Boys. Jeff[Back to Top]
Date: 9 Jan 1997 07:45:27 -0600 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Re: BW QT Differential Off-Road Unlimited has the rebuild kit. It's about $64 I think. They have ads in all the 4X4 mags. I didn't actually buy one from them, but they said they could order it for me. FYI Jeff On Jan 8, 9:03pm, Joe Sego wrote: > Subject: Re: BW QT Differential > > At 04:37 PM 1/7/97 EST, you wrote: > >Hi guys! > >diffs in them. The one thats in Mr. Beef holds about 60lbs before turning, > >and the spares are worse than that. My question to you all is as follows: > >Are there any kits available to rebuild the diffs. in a BW QT? If not, > there > > After thinking about this a while I remember earlier this fall when > I need a new vacuum pull-off switch for the Cherokee I was at a 4x4 > tranny/xfer case shop on the westside of Indy, they sold me a used one. > > Anyway, I was asking about rebuilding one and they told me they buy a > rebuild kit for the 1339. They did not say from where. :-( > > I will call them tomorrw and see if I can pry a name from them, OR if > they'll sell a kit. > > Joe- > > > > >I just discovered that the two QT units I got from the yard both have bad > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > >-- End of excerpt from Joe Sego[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 10:37:44 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: BW QT Differential At 07:45 AM 1/9/97 -0600, you wrote: > >Off-Road Unlimited has the rebuild kit. It's about $64 I think. They >have ads in all the 4X4 mags. I didn't actually buy one from them, but >they said they could order it for me. > > >FYI > >Jeff Well for $64 bucks it must only be the seals. A new chain is somewhere around $125-150 itself. But., that's good to know, thats probably cheaper than buying it all at Jeep. C'ya Joe- > >On Jan 8, 9:03pm, Joe Sego wrote: >> Subject: Re: BW QT Differential >> >> At 04:37 PM 1/7/97 EST, you wrote: >> >Hi guys! >> >diffs in them. The one thats in Mr. Beef holds about 60lbs before >turning, >> >and the spares are worse than that. My question to you all is as >follows: >> >Are there any kits available to rebuild the diffs. in a BW QT? If >not, >> there >> >> After thinking about this a while I remember earlier this fall when >> I need a new vacuum pull-off switch for the Cherokee I was at a 4x4 >> tranny/xfer case shop on the westside of Indy, they sold me a used >one. >> >> Anyway, I was asking about rebuilding one and they told me they buy a >> rebuild kit for the 1339. They did not say from where. :-( >> >> I will call them tomorrw and see if I can pry a name from them, OR if >> they'll sell a kit. >> >> Joe- >> >> >> >> >I just discovered that the two QT units I got from the yard both have >bad >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the >command >> "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. >> >> >> >>-- End of excerpt from Joe Sego > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:45:58 -0500 (EST) From: GypsyLive-at-aol.com Subject: Re: Inner & outer locknuts my local Auto-zone also told me they didnt have it!! Nut if you look where they stock the Cal-VAn brand tools, its on the bottom shelf..(usually)![Back to Top]
Date: 9 Jan 1997 10:16:10 -0600 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Re: Inner & outer locknuts On Jan 9, 9:45am, GypsyLive-at-aol.com wrote: > Subject: Re: Inner & outer locknuts > > my local Auto-zone also told me they didnt have it!! Nut if you look where > they stock the > > Cal-VAn brand tools, its on the bottom shelf..(usually)! > >-- End of excerpt from GypsyLive-at-aol.coM I had the same problem...had to go to Car Quest...or try a NAPA or other independent. The other thing you can do is look for a Snap-On or MAC tools truck. They sell these to the guys who work in the auto shops. It'll be cheaper at a Car Quest/Independent shop though. I'd offer to mail you one, but it would be at least a week to get there, plus a few bucks for shipping. A thought... Jeff[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:18:00 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: ID this Jeep
Fu,
Nothing unusual here... my 88 XJ says wagoneer limited, just like Old Blue...
they just made an expensive Grand Cherokee, loaded it to the rafters with
options, slapped on wall paper and called it a grand wagoneer...
just more confusion for owners... questions like, is this the downsized
one? is it the big one? is it the one that looks like a minivan? etc...
SJ, XJ or ZJ ? (and not everyone knows the designators, including the jeep dealers... :)
later,
john
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ORIG MSG: On my way to work on my 91 Grand Wagoneer, I yield another Jeep into my
ORIG MSG: lane. It is a green ZJ body jeep with wood panel wall paper on it. The on
ORIG MSG: front passanger fender, I saw "Grand Wagoneer", on the tailgate on the
ORIG MSG: right side saids "V8", I forget what it said on the right side.
ORIG MSG:
ORIG MSG: OK, now, I thought "Grand Wagoneer" name ends 92 models, could there
ORIG MSG: possibly be "Grand Wagoneer"s made in Grand Chorkee body? Any owners out
ORIG MSG: there?
ORIG MSG:
ORIG MSG: Fu
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 09:25:54 -0800 From: "Michael J. Ahlmann" <mahlmann-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Requesting digest mode set fsj-list digest Michael J. Ahlmann mahlmann-at-mindspring.com[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:21:32 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: jeep
Pete,
sounds like you need to subscribe to our FSJ list... instructions on my
home page...
If you follow the link to doc's home page you'll find some how-to's...
I'll cc this to the list... so they can forward advice to you before you
get a chance to subscribe.
(HEY guys, cc our 90 GW friend at: mfgman-at-tiac.net )
later,
john
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ORIG MSG:
ORIG MSG: Greetings,
ORIG MSG: I am wondering if you might be able to direct me to a GOOD source of
ORIG MSG: information on the SJ Jeeps. There seems to be a serious void of
ORIG MSG: information on these vehicles. I though I might be the only owner of
ORIG MSG: such a beast until I found your web page. I have a 1990 Grand
ORIG MSG: Wagoneer. I want to do some serious off-road upgrades but I need to do
ORIG MSG: my homework first. Right now I am focusing on engine modifications so I
ORIG MSG: need to know everything about SJ drivetrains. Thanks,
ORIG MSG: Pete Tocci
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:42:01 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: HOW's The WEATHER NOW??? :)
we're back to normal here in GREEN Snohomish...
47 degrees F at 8:30 am, expecting mid 50's... a little
bit of drizzle/overcast... supposed to clear up by this weekend...
mid 40's plus through the next 4 or 5 days... :)
Maybe I'll have some time to actually clean, lubricate and retighten
stuff on the jeeps... Maybe even try to adjust that set screw thingamajigee
on the side of Old Blue's carb to help his cold start/run thing so
he quits belching and puking when he first wakes up... :)
Hey, I put the picture of the spare tire carrier up on my page...
http://www./~john/JEEP/spare.jpg
so you can see it... also, if you browse through the storm pictures you'll
see it without the spare on it... had to adjust it, still do... so I pulled
the spare, which really wasn't the spare, but a flat that needs to be fixed
and wasn't really in that sense a spare, if ya know what I mean... :)
spring fever??? Maybe we'll go swimming tonight... :) yeah, right...
Lots of hillsides moved around here... been here 11 years, some of these
hillsides haven't moved for quite a while, if ever, but they moved this
year... saw one guy's garage on the wrong side of the road... in a heap..
found out why my back road was closed... mud slide blocked one lane completely,
still one lane...
anyway, heard about the snow in AZ... <snicker, snicker> had to rub it in...
later,
john
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:44:51 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: Requesting digest mode - INSTRUCTIONS
ORIG MSG:
Michael (and anyone else interested),
you need to send this information to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com
you do not need to put your name inside the message. The only thing that
goes in the body is the set FSJ-List digest
later,
john
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ORIG MSG: Michael J. Ahlmann
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 12:55:25 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Cherokee Update :-) Nope, not a Chief update, but a Cherokee update. We plowed snow from 8 am to 1 pm, not a single miss! Ran great, plenty of power. It could use some ballast in the rearend though. Life is good! C'ya Joe ******************************************************** *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown- parts donor * *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/ * ********************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:51:48 -0700 (MST)
From: Brian Riggs <Brian.Riggs-at-genetics.utah.edu>
Subject: John's Picture page
John,
Your page has some really good pix on it. I like your idea for the FSJ
logo very much. With a little refinement I think it would be the perfect
logo for these Big Old Beasts.
Brian
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:07:08 -0500 (EST) From: Fu Tham <tham-at-husc.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: HOW's The WEATHER NOW??? :) > 47 degrees F at 8:30 am, expecting mid 50's... a little Good for you, I think it is East Coast turn to get belted with white stuff, today and tomorrow. Shouldn't be too bad in Boston Area, 1 to 3 inches and freezing rain. This will be my first time with my FSJ in snow. Kinnda psyed. > Hey, I put the picture of the spare tire carrier up on my page... > > http://www./~john/JEEP/spare.jpg I like those light you mounted on the spoiler. My GW doesn't have one of those airplne wings. I got to search junk yard for one-o-those. Fu > bit of drizzle/overcast... supposed to clear up by this weekend...[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:07:04 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: John's Picture page
thanx Brian,
any of you FSJ types out there have any s/w tools or art skills better than
mine (which is probably all of ya...), please copy that down, or email
me and I'll send ya a couple different base images I copied down off the
net...
We want to be careful not to violate superman's trademark, so we have to
modify it so it's not the same thing... at least... I doubt the folks
that own it will mind too much, however, if we get it done nicely, before
we really get carried away with using it or creating decals for our rigs,
we should probably get permission...
I think it would be cool to make some vinyl stickers like that for our rigs...
so let's first get it cleaned up, lookin' good, and then go for the blessings
of however owns the superman symbol, just so we're doin' the right thing...
I would guess if we used different colors we wouldn't have a problem, but the
colors used by superman are nice, bright primary colors that work well with
Old blue... :)
later,
john
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ORIG MSG: John,
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ORIG MSG: Your page has some really good pix on it. I like your idea for the FSJ
ORIG MSG: logo very much. With a little refinement I think it would be the perfect
ORIG MSG: logo for these Big Old Beasts.
ORIG MSG:
ORIG MSG: Brian
ORIG MSG:
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ORIG MSG: | briggs-at-genetics.utah.edu | Activities Director UtahFWDA |
ORIG MSG: | justbr-at-aol.com | Storm Mountain 4X4 SLC Ut |
ORIG MSG: | | Red Rock 4Wheelers Moab Ut |
ORIG MSG: |---------------------------------------------------------|
ORIG MSG: | '79 Jeep Cherokee Sport: AMC 360, T18, Dana20, Dana 44s |
ORIG MSG: | with Lock-Rites Front & Rear, 35" BFG M/Ts, 4" SkyJacker|
ORIG MSG: | SoftRide Lift, Some rust, And lots of dents. =8) |
ORIG MSG: *---------------------------------------------------------*
ORIG MSG:
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john-at- http://www.
Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
Jeep Wagoneer Limited - 81 SJ & 88 xj
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no Jesus = no peace ^ know Jesus = know peace
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:08:41 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: ballast...
ORIG MSG:
ORIG MSG: Nope, not a Chief update, but a Cherokee update.
ORIG MSG:
ORIG MSG: We plowed snow from 8 am to 1 pm, not a single miss!
ORIG MSG: Ran great, plenty of power. It could use some
ORIG MSG: ballast in the rearend though.
ORIG MSG:
ORIG MSG: Life is good!
ORIG MSG:
ORIG MSG: C'ya
ORIG MSG: Joe
add those two extra doors... my 67 Wagoneer was a little heavier in the
backend than the front... oh wait, it didn't have a plow... never mind...
but add the two doors anyway... :)
later,
john
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john-at- http://www.
Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
Jeep Wagoneer Limited - 81 SJ & 88 xj
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no Jesus = no peace ^ know Jesus = know peace
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[Back to Top]Date: 9 Jan 1997 14:52:31 U
From: "Brandt, Kirk" <kbrandt-at-atad.spaceapp.com>
Subject: Octane/pinging Curiosity
Since I'm about to take delivery of my second Wagoneer ('88), I was wondering
about the list's overall experience with octane and pinging. I had to run
to launch torpedoes! Should I expect the same with the '88 or is there a
chance I'll be able to use regular?
I should mention that I had a Jacobs ignition on the 83 (but it still pinged!)
and plan to move that to the '88.
Out,
Kirk
super in my 83 Wagoneer Limited (258 ci) or it pinged like an attack sub about
[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:39:56 -0700 (MST)
From: Brian Riggs <Brian.Riggs-at-genetics.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: ballast...
On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, john wrote:
>
> add those two extra doors... my 67 Wagoneer was a little heavier in the
> backend than the front... oh wait, it didn't have a plow... never mind...
>
> but add the two doors anyway... :)
>
> later,
> john
>
Don't do it!!!! Then you'd have two doors too many!!!!
Brian
*---------------------------------------------------------*
| briggs-at-genetics.utah.edu | Activities Director UtahFWDA |
| justbr-at-aol.com | Storm Mountain 4X4 SLC Ut |
| | Red Rock 4Wheelers Moab Ut |
|---------------------------------------------------------|
| '79 Jeep Cherokee Sport: AMC 360, T18, Dana20, Dana 44s |
| with Lock-Rites Front & Rear, 35" BFG M/Ts, 4" SkyJacker|
| SoftRide Lift, Some rust, And lots of dents. =8) |
*---------------------------------------------------------*
[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 14:39:00 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: ballast... > >backend than the front... oh wait, it didn't have a plow... never mind... > >but add the two doors anyway... :) > >later, >john I'll pass on the extra doors, I'll load the backend with bags of softener salt or concrete blocks. Didn't realize till today how tired the old J-10 was, this thing seems to have twice the power :-) C'ya joe > >********************************************************** > john-at- http://www. > Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > Jeep Wagoneer Limited - 81 SJ & 88 xj >********************************************************** > no Jesus = no peace ^ know Jesus = know peace >********************************************************** > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > > >add those two extra doors... my 67 Wagoneer was a little heavier in the[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 14:39:08 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: John's Picture page At 11:07 AM 1/9/97 -0800, you wrote: > >thanx Brian, > >any of you FSJ types out there have any s/w tools or art skills better than >mine (which is probably all of ya...), please copy that down, or email >me and I'll send ya a couple different base images I copied down off the >net... > >We want to be careful not to violate superman's trademark, so we have to >modify it so it's not the same thing... at least... I doubt the folks >that own it will mind too much, however, if we get it done nicely, before >we really get carried away with using it or creating decals for our rigs, >we should probably get permission... > >I think it would be cool to make some vinyl stickers like that for our rigs... >so let's first get it cleaned up, lookin' good, and then go for the blessings >of however owns the superman symbol, just so we're doin' the right thing... > >I would guess if we used different colors we wouldn't have a problem, but the >colors used by superman are nice, bright primary colors that work well with >Old blue... :) > >later, >john You get the design you want and I'll get my son to make them. That's his line of work. Check them out at: http://www.freelancelettering.com If it's vinyl, they can do it! We should be able to get them at cost :-)[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:43:17 -0700 (MST) From: Brian Riggs <Brian.Riggs-at-genetics.utah.edu> Subject: Re: John's Picture page On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, john wrote: > > thanx Brian, > > any of you FSJ types out there have any s/w tools or art skills better than > mine (which is probably all of ya...), please copy that down, or email > me and I'll send ya a couple different base images I copied down off the > net... > > We want to be careful not to violate superman's trademark, so we have to > modify it so it's not the same thing... at least... I doubt the folks > that own it will mind too much, however, if we get it done nicely, before > we really get carried away with using it or creating decals for our rigs, > we should probably get permission... > > I think it would be cool to make some vinyl stickers like that for our rigs... > so let's first get it cleaned up, lookin' good, and then go for the blessings > of however owns the superman symbol, just so we're doin' the right thing... > > I would guess if we used different colors we wouldn't have a problem, but the > colors used by superman are nice, bright primary colors that work well with > Old blue... :) > > later, > john If we could work the F & J into the diamond area where the S is the we wouldn't need to worry about the copyright because it would be significantly different. At least that is my limited understanding of how the copyrights work. I think it has to be at least 10% or 15% different. Brian[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 14:42:52 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: HOW's The WEATHER NOW??? :) >I like those light you mounted on the spoiler. My GW doesn't have one of > >Fu > I need a good way to mount a couple killer lights on the rear, not found a good place, wonder if the luggage rack would hold them? I have the light bar I bought from terry all ready to go, 4 spots and a rotating yellow beacon in the center. My alternator will never handle all this! C'ya <snow-hawg> > >> bit of drizzle/overcast... supposed to clear up by this weekend... > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > > >those airplne wings. I got to search junk yard for one-o-those.[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 11:53:36 -0800
From: Kara Moloney and Mick Delaney <karaandmick-at-telis.org>
Subject: Re: Octane/pinging Curiosity
At 02:52 PM 1/9/97 U, you wrote:
>Since I'm about to take delivery of my second Wagoneer ('88), I was wondering
>about the list's overall experience with octane and pinging. I had to run
>to launch torpedoes! Should I expect the same with the '88 or is there a
>chance I'll be able to use regular?
>
>I should mention that I had a Jacobs ignition on the 83 (but it still pinged!)
>and plan to move that to the '88.
>
>Out,
>
>Kirk
>super in my 83 Wagoneer Limited (258 ci) or it pinged like an attack sub about
>
The list servers rearrangement of messages has made for some pretty funny text.
Can't help with your problem, Kirk, but if you need to 'run to launch
torpedos' then you may need SPECIAL help :)
mick
75 wag
[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:14:15 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: John's Picture page
ORIG MSG:
ORIG MSG: On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, john wrote:
ORIG MSG: > I would guess if we used different colors we wouldn't have a problem, but the
ORIG MSG: > colors used by superman are nice, bright primary colors that work well with
ORIG MSG: > Old blue... :)
ORIG MSG: >
ORIG MSG: > later,
ORIG MSG: > john
ORIG MSG:
ORIG MSG: If we could work the F & J into the diamond area where the S is the we
ORIG MSG: wouldn't need to worry about the copyright because it would be
ORIG MSG: significantly different. At least that is my limited understanding of how
ORIG MSG: the copyrights work. I think it has to be at least 10% or 15% different.
ORIG MSG:
ORIG MSG: Brian
ORIG MSG:
this isn't a copyright issue, but a Trademark one... However, if we do place the
F and the J inside the triangle, you're correct, it would no longer be the same as
the superman logo... They could still come after us, but the likelihood of that
happening, or their success in the courts would be extremely unlikely...
Care to take a shot at it? anybody... ?
later,
john
**********************************************************
john-at- http://www.
Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
Jeep Wagoneer Limited - 81 SJ & 88 xj
**********************************************************
no Jesus = no peace ^ know Jesus = know peace
**********************************************************
[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:18:25 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: HOW's The WEATHER NOW??? :)
ORIG MSG:
ORIG MSG: >I like those light you mounted on the spoiler. My GW doesn't have one of
ORIG MSG: >Fu
ORIG MSG: >
ORIG MSG: I need a good way to mount a couple killer lights on the rear,
ORIG MSG: not found a good place, wonder if the luggage rack would hold them?
did that for roof mounted lights facing forward on my 67... should...
ORIG MSG: I have the light bar I bought from terry all ready to go, 4 spots and
ORIG MSG: a rotating yellow beacon in the center. My alternator will never
ORIG MSG: handle all this!
ORIG MSG: C'ya
ORIG MSG: <snow-hawg>
who's this snow-hawg dude with a rotating yellow beanie? :)
you could also make a clamp arrangement to attach to the rack or over the back part of
the sheetmetal... better yet, make a bracket that you could screw on from UNDERNEATH
that back lip and have the lights below the roof line... much better for brush...
shouldn't be a big problem for loading... you could rig something up for the back,
maybe a mini-flip up light bar...
I try to keep stuff tucked inside the rig, or below the roof line... some of these
mountain trails get overgrown with brush... even have to "squeak" through with the
xj wagoneer.... nice thing about the wallpaper though, it usually doesn't scratch... :)
later,
john
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john-at- http://www.
Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
Jeep Wagoneer Limited - 81 SJ & 88 xj
**********************************************************
no Jesus = no peace ^ know Jesus = know peace
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