Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 17:10:32 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Billy!!
billy dunn wrote:
>
> At 09:55 AM 5/4/97 -0700, you wrote:
> >not like mine, im just a wagoneer with a GM v8 and 12 th400.
> >iv swapped out OEM weak componants for later stronger
> >ones, but nothing like a d60!
> >
> >
> I like the d60 just dont like the 8 lug though....I have a semi floating 60
> that is 5x5.5 lug but I like the floater better.
then ur stuck with 8 lugs.
> Now I have found a 60 front
> with 4.56s and Im thinking about buying it and doing a spring over.For
> 400.00 I cant beat a deal like that.
well if its a genuine d60 then i SHOULD be SOA already.
> What kind of problems did you face while
> doing a spring over??
the only prob i faced was connecting the steering linkage. i ended up
useing a drag link kinda sorta like this:
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pass side / | /
/ | /
(brace) | (brace) drive side!
/ | /
/ | /
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> I know this GM d60 front is going to be different than
> my current 44 set up.I guess I am going to have to make up some steering
> linkage and use heim joints for tie rod ends...what do you think about
> that???
not really, all u need to do is weld a plate onto the existing tie
rod that u can bolt a helm joint to and then the other end to the
pitman arm. similar to the OEM set up!
> I run
> 15x10 and if I go to a fr60 then I'll have a problem with the wheels hitting
> the calipers dont you think???I dont like the idea of running 16.5 wheels
> either and they dont make much for 16 in tires yet....
y?? the 16 5 wheels r fine, as long as u dont air dowm very
much, but then if u wheel alot, then airing down is mandatory. :(
> I went out and took some pics of it today a little crossed up and got a
> scanner BUT I dont know how to put them on a the net...Any suggestions??
if say the format is say .jpg, then what u can do is send it to
either me, john or doc, (john/doc, can put em on their FSJ web
pages) as an attachment, but then i dont no what software u
use to send n recieve email!
> Thanks,
> Billy
> 79,80J10
>
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 20:10:41 -0400 From: "Steven A. Kaiser" <Steven_Kaiser-at-compuserve.com> Subject: Carb/manifold swap success!! Well today I was the day!! I swaped in an Edelbrock 1406 carb and EGR manifold for my '76 Cherokee's 360. It went very smoothly and the entire job took less than 8 hrs including final adjustments. A BIG thanks to Jeff for his excelent blow by blow instructions. I am having one problem which has been ongoing for some time now. When the engine is warm the fuel in the carburator boils and causes a flooding situation if the engine is only off for 5 - 10 minutes making it hard to start. I get a blus cloud on start up(over rich mix) then it runs fine. This problem has not changed since the new carb and manifold. I have checked the heat riser valve on the passenger side exaust and it seems to be working fine. What else could be causing this??? Any suggestions would be appreciated Steve[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 20:26:42 -0400
From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net>
Subject: bottomless transfer case
Well, <<blush>, the "bottomless transfer case" is just that... an NP208
that has resided between the rails on Timex since new, well, most of
it... the bottom of it, and the chain, are somewhere up in the Ocala
National Forest, I think.... I wiped the chain out in Arizona, and
didn't fix it (lack of funds, and had to move back here). About six
months after I came back here I was 'wheeling with my club up in the
Ocala National Forest, and when I got home and went to check the fluids I
noticed a gaping hole in the bottom of the 'case.
It's been that way for, oh, about four years, I guess... probably
60-70,000 miles or more. Let's see... I came back from Phoenix in July
'93 I believe, so it was probably somewhere between Sept. of '93 and Feb.
'94 I blew out the bottom. So it's been three to 3 1/2 years then. So I
guess that makes 60-70k about right.
I haven't had much luck finding a new case, and besides I haven't been
able to afford one, and it still works. Well, I don't have 4wd, but it
still makes the truck go, and it'll even stay in lo-range most of the
time. It's really really noisy in low range, and it's kinda whiny in
high (gee, I wonder why? <<grin>) but it keeps going and going and
going... one of the reasons why she's named "Timex".
<excerpt>Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 15:53:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: Moake Brian <<iw67-at-jove.acs.unt.edu>
Subject: Re: 1892 Wago
>What is this about a bottomless transfer case???
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 20:35:53 -0400
From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net>
Subject: stuck hood
>Does anyone know how to pop the hood on my 85 G Wag? The lever under the
>dash doesn't do anything. It worked before.
>My secondary latch was all bent up so it wouldn't catch... I stretched it
>out so it would catch and found out why it was deformed. Now, I just need
>to get the hood up so I can bend the secondary out of the way.
To the left of where the secondary catch is, just above and to the right
of the "Jeep" on the top of the grille, is where the main latch is. It's
protected (for anti-theft reasons) by a steel plate. Can't tell by your
message if you're feeling any resistance still on the hood release cable or
not, so I dunno if it's a broken cable. If it's because it's jammed by the
secondary latch, and the cable's intact, then you're going to have to make
some kind of rather sturdy right-angle doohickey to slide between the
grille and hood, behind the plate, to push the latch bar backwards. I
don't think you're going to be able to make anything strong enough and
still thin enough to make it between the grill and hood. You may be able
to crawl under the truck and reach up on that side and get the catch, but I
doubt it... probably too much stuff in the way. Methinks you're probably
going to have to mangle the front of your hood a bit to get it open.
The problem with reaching it from the inside is one, it's a loooong reach
up from under the truck to the hood. Plus, the catch is above the
radiator, and it'll be really difficult to get to, with hoses and fan
shroud and etc. etc. in the way. I seem to recall not being able to reach
mine from underneath. But in my case, it was the hood release cable was
broken, right at the handle, so I could take a pair of Kleins (lineman's
pliers), pull on the cable, and it would open.
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 17:59:23 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Steven K!!
blu cloud or black cloud??
Steven A. Kaiser wrote:
> I am having one problem which has been ongoing for some time now. When the
> engine is warm the fuel in the carburator boils and causes a flooding
> situation if the engine is only off for 5 - 10 minutes making it hard to
> start. I get a blus cloud on start up(over rich mix) then it runs fine.
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Sincerely
'If a Wagoneer can go where a
kenneth e. wetherall CJ can go, then it's a
kenns-at-concentric.net Super Wagoneer'
[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 17:21:28 -0500 From: "68 Wagoneer" <jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com> Subject: Re: Favorite Commercials Yeah, but size doesn't matter. Does it? ======================================= Henry Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com ---------- > From: Carlo J. Calica <calica-at-adj.com> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: Favorite Commercials > Date: Wednesday, April 30, 1997 1:06 PM > > I'm gonna get beat on but one of my favorite commercials is the Landrover > one comparing the sizes of different lug nuts. Of course theirs was the > biggest. > > - Carlo J. Calica > Technical Director http://www.adj.com > ADJACENCY: Brand New Media TM tel (415) 487-4510 > PGP Fingerprint: E7 60 BE 76 F1 0B 6F B4 D8 81 40 2F 5F 47 E1 FA[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 21:39:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Moake Brian <iw67-at-jove.acs.unt.edu> Subject: Re: bottomless transfer case On Sun, 4 May 1997, Dennis M. "Doc" Fariello wrote: Well I guess that makes sense... > Well, <<blush>, the "bottomless transfer case" is just that... an NP208 > that has resided between the rails on Timex since new, well, most of > it... the bottom of it, and the chain, are somewhere up in the Ocala > National Forest, I think.... I wiped the chain out in Arizona, and > didn't fix it (lack of funds, and had to move back here). About six > months after I came back here I was 'wheeling with my club up in the > Ocala National Forest, and when I got home and went to check the fluids I > noticed a gaping hole in the bottom of the 'case. > It's been that way for, oh, about four years, I guess... probably > 60-70,000 miles or more. Let's see... I came back from Phoenix in July > '93 I believe, so it was probably somewhere between Sept. of '93 and Feb. > '94 I blew out the bottom. So it's been three to 3 1/2 years then. So I > guess that makes 60-70k about right. > I haven't had much luck finding a new case, and besides I haven't been > able to afford one, and it still works. Well, I don't have 4wd, but it > still makes the truck go, and it'll even stay in lo-range most of the > time. It's really really noisy in low range, and it's kinda whiny in > high (gee, I wonder why? <<grin>) but it keeps going and going and > going... one of the reasons why she's named "Timex". I seem to be having the same problem... $$$ to buy what I can't find.[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 21:45:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Moake Brian <iw67-at-jove.acs.unt.edu> Subject: Re: stuck hood On Sun, 4 May 1997, Dennis M. "Doc" Fariello wrote: > The problem with reaching it from the inside is one, it's a loooong reach > up from under the truck to the hood. Plus, the catch is above the > radiator, and it'll be really difficult to get to, with hoses and fan > shroud and etc. etc. in the way. I seem to recall not being able to reach > mine from underneath. But in my case, it was the hood release cable was > broken, right at the handle, so I could take a pair of Kleins (lineman's > pliers), pull on the cable, and it would open. Thanks, I'll have to try that. I may have a little more luck since there is no shroud and I have really long arms (38" sleeve)[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 22:45:24 -0400 From: "Steven A. Kaiser" <Steven_Kaiser-at-compuserve.com> Subject: Steven K!! Sorry for my typo!! I get a puff of blue smoke on warm start up until the engine stabalizes at idle. Then it runs fine with no smoke at all. It will not smoke again untill it has been sitting five to ten minutes. If I leave it sit until cool and the carb has time to air out it starts with no problem and no smoke. I took extra time to proof read this message. Any mistakes are just poor spelling! Steve[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 20:15:02 -0700 From: Gordon McKenzie <gordmck-at-direct.ca> Subject: Tranny questions I blew up my tranny today. Was driving up a hill when she started smoking. Fluid was pouring out the front of the tranny so now she's going into the shop for repair. My question is, has anyone been able to figure out how to put an overdrive tranny in place of a 727? I have an 81 with the 360 and NP219 and if I'm going to have to spend money (which I do) I'd like to upgrade but I'm not sure if it is possible at a reasonable cost. Let me know if anyone has any ideas. This was not a good Sunday. Now I fell like I shoulda gone to work. Gord[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 22:04:39 -0500
From: "Sc0" <jjd-at-flex.net>
Subject: Gas tank removal.
How do you remove an Aux gas tank that is bolted to the underside of the
bed?
(J truck)
It is held on by 4 bolts,
(front)
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(rear)
I have removed the 2 rear bolts, (10 or 12 inches long), and am having
trouble removing the front 2 bolts. The front 2 seem to be epoxied to some
sleeves that are running through the gas tank. I have tried to use a
Hydraulic bottle jack with a "big" punch to try and press the bolts out of
the sleeve but, instead I just hacked the back of my truck up.
Can I grind the top of the bolts off from the bed, without a risk of fire
or Explosion???
(The aux gas tank was installed by the dealer in '72, the front 2 holes
used sleeves, the back 2 were drilled straight through the tank....nothing
but leaks since then.)
"Who are we?"
Sc0
[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 22:57:21 -0500 From: "68 Wagoneer" <jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com> Subject: Re: y'all AIN'T gonna believe this... Yeah but where are the PICS? Great job, Doc. You're braver than I'da been. ======================================= Henry Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com ---------- > From: Dennis M. "Doc" Fariello <fariello-at-inspace.net> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: y'all AIN'T gonna believe this... > Date: Saturday, May 03, 1997 9:33 AM > > > I guess I could have titled this one something else, like, say, "A Funny > Thing Happened...", or "I've REALLY Got to Start Carrying a Camera Around > With Me", or "John's Gonna Break Old Blue After he Reads This". > > I was driving home from work this morning, when I spotted a semi in a > ditch on the side of the road. "Gee", I thought to myself, "I bet HE feels > like a dumbass" <grin>. So I turned around and checked it out, to see if > he needed a ride to a phone or something. So when I pulled up in front of > him and got out of the truck, I said to him, "Oops, eh?". > > Well, he had actually parked it there on purpose the night before. Only > problem was, he didn't realize there was a drainage ditch there. He said > he was going to call his boss to send a wrecker, but then he looked at > Timex and said "hmm...". I recognized that look in his eyes and said, > "What the kronk, let's give it a shot". I almost didn't think to ask if he > was loaded. Well, actually, I didn't give a kronk, I mean, what a man does > on his own time is his own business <smile>. So I asked if his truck was > empty. It was. Weight? 43,000 and change. Moving van, 54' box, > Volvo/White/GMC twin screw with a condo sleeper and a 60 series GMC motor. > > He really wasn't stuck bad, he was getting enough traction to rock it a > little bit, just those hiway tires weren't doing it in the sand and wet > grass. Didn't look like he was buried at all, just kinda sitting there > dead in the water, er, dirt. He would've come right out if we pull him > backwards, we decided. So, I dig the rescue kit out of the toolbox, you > know, strap and chain (I ain't tearing up my $50.00 strap for NOBODY!). We > walked around to the back of the trailer and then realized that there ain't > nothing to hook to on the back of a moving van trailer. So we took another > look around the truck, no ruts in front of the duals, steers were only a > couple of inches deep, but there was a small culvert right in front of him. > We looked at each other and thought how much easier this would have been > if he'd had a regular box, or at least a bumper on the box. > > We had a hell of a time finding a pull point on the front of the rig, too! > All there were was a pair of receivers. We felt around, and looked > around, and after about five minutes of this he says, "Wait a second, let > me open the hood". So he tilts the nose, and sure enough, there's a, hell, > I can't think of what it's called now... pintle ring, that's it! It's > stuck in the passenger side receiver, backwards. Pull the pin, stick it in > from the front, stick the pin back in, and we're ready to go. I hand him > my handy-dandy folding shovel to dig out the fronts, hook up the chain and > strap (used both for the extra length, I was hoping to get enough length to > reach a driveway, knowing I have no 4wd and it would NEVER happen in the > dirt). It didn't reach, but I could put one side on the sidewalk. > > Hooked up, he got in and fired his up. Start going, rock him a bit, left > rear breaks loose and flings dirt all over his truck. Re-position a little > bit, try it again. Start to get him a rockin, fling dirt again. Tried it > again, still no luck. So we give up. > > I'm standing there next to his truck, we're shooting the breeze, and then > I say, "hmm, how bout we drop the box and pull the tractor out first?". He > says, "Great idea, except then how do I get the box out?" Hmm.... > > I say, "Hey, let me hook up again, and turn your steers to the left a wee > bit". He says "No way, it's gotta come out straight, it'll never happen". > I say, "Sir, it's a Jeep... we ain't gonna hurt it by trying, and we'll > never know for sure unless we try". This way I could get a better angle of > the dangle and get all four on pavement. You should have seen the look on > people's faces when we stopped traffic. > > Ok, so we hook back up again. Sure enough, we couldn't pull him out, but > I did leave some really nifty looking black marks on the pavement... > <grin>. So I YANKED. Now, bear in mind, his truck weighed 43,000 lbs. > And I did NOT have either the chain or the strap doubled up. > > Out comes the hi-lift jack. Now, it's good for 7,000 lbs, which is way > more than most people will ever need, and he's probably got way more than > that on the front axle, with the weight of the front axle itself and the > tires and whatever. But I figger maybe we can get enough load off the > steers to get them to roll over the culvert. He looks at me and says "Your > nuts, you'll trash your jack". I said, "True enough, and if I get you out, > is it worth it to buy me a new jack?" > > So, we lift the nose about six inches, we stop traffic again ( he insisted > it had to come out straight, I said "just step on the gas and hold on). > Gee, I was feeling ballsy, eh? Started pulling (I knew if I yanked hard > I'd break something), it was actually wiggling side to side. I said, "what > the hell, I'm gonna try it, I'd probably just stop dead in my tracks before > anything breaks". So I backed up a ways, got her going, and sure as kronk > Timex yanked the nose of that semi right out of the ditch! Wasn't actually > all that simple. Had to YANK, and YANK, and YANK, it moved about a foot to > the left each time, but sure enough, got his steers out of the ditch. I > actually didn't even get airborne on the recoil! <laugh>. > > Ok, so here we were, with his steers on level ground, but the drives were > still lacking traction. So I moved to the right, so I was now pulling the > tractor straight, and we tried it again, but no yanking. See, when I was > pulling him sideways I was maybe actually pulling, oh, say 10-15k of > weight, if that much, and it wasn't directly sideways, it was an angle. > But going straight it was the whole 43k. So I applied a steady pressure, > and that rig came outta there like kronk out of a goose! > > Now, kids, before you decide you're gonna try this at home, let me relate > the following... better keep a spare set of motor mounts. And chain them. > Thoroughly. And plan on replacing both chain and motor mounts when done > anyway. When I got home and popped the hood to tighten up the chain on the > left side mount (it was obviously VERY loose when I got done), I found the > entire chain on top of the air cleaner. Good thing my mounts were trashed > anyway... <grin>. > > It's a neat feeling to get a standing ovation... the motorists who had > stopped (and of course KNEW Timex couldn't do it) all got out of their > vehicles and CHEERED! I'm still blushing, I think. And of course Karen > (my lovely wife) thinks I'm full of it. Hell, if somebody told me this > story I wouldn't likely believe it, either! > > | > | > | | > | ============= | > 0_| / \ |_o > |_|_____----+-----____|_| > |====|=====|=====|====| > ||____|_____|_____|____|| > \_____|___|DOC|___|_____/ > |\/\/|--------\_/--|\/\/| > ______|\/\/|_____________|\/\/|______ > > Home of the "Bottomless Transfer Case" > _____________________________________ > > email: fariello-at-inspace.net > http://www.inspace.net/~fariello/fsj > _____________________________________ > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 23:04:39 -0500 From: "68 Wagoneer" <jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com> Subject: Re: need dash info PDQ!! John, could you make an extra copy for me? Thanks! ======================================= Henry Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com ---------- > From: john meister <john-at-> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: Re: need dash info PDQ!! > Date: Tuesday, April 29, 1997 12:56 PM > > Ken, > > I've got wiring diagrams for a 67... I kept all my manuals. I can > scan 'em in and send 'em to ya in a jpeg, or go down to a copy store > and make nice copies... In fact, I may have a duplicate set of those > manuals... I'll have to look. I got a second (or third) set of > manuals with my 69... they had a supplement for the later models. > > john > > > cool, that web site that has manuals for 72 and up wags, has > > one for a 72 wagoneer. im thinking of takning a chance that the > > elec diagrams in that 72 manual will help me with my 67. because > > the 72 has almost the same elec arrangement as the > > 67, hence the reason to no the time AMC changed the dash!! > > > > john meister wrote: > > > > > > according to my standard catalog of AMC, in 1973... Color coded > > > instrumentation was marked with international symbols and included > > > two new type of gauges: an ammeter and a clock. (pg 272) > > > > > > hope that helps... > > > > > > john > > > > > > > > -- > > Sincerely > > > > kenneth e. wetherall If a Wagoneer can go where a > > kenns-at-concentric.net CJ can go, then it's a > > Super Wagoneer. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************** > john-at- http://www. > ORC-FSJ = http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/fsj > Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > JEEPS:(Wagoneer Limited 81 SJ & 88 xj)and Cherokee 77 SJ > no Jesus = no peace <-> know Jesus = know peace > ********************************************************** > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 10:20:37 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Steven K!! At 10:45 PM 5/4/97 -0400, you wrote: >Sorry for my typo!! > >I get a puff of blue smoke on warm start up until the engine stabalizes at >idle. Then it runs fine with no smoke at all. It will not smoke again >untill it has been sitting five to ten minutes. If I leave it sit until >cool and the carb has time to air out it starts with no problem and no >smoke. > >I took extra time to proof read this message. Any mistakes are just poor >spelling! > >Steve > Steve, sounds like classic valve guide wear. (or worn out) After motor sits a bit the oil runs down the worn guide into the cylinder. C'ya Joe- ******************************************************** *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown- parts donor * *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * * - home page http://www.mindspring.com/~jsego * ********************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 22:55:35 -0500 From: "Sc0" <jjd-at-flex.net> Subject: Re: Tranny questions In a magazine I remember seeing a vendor that is selling a TH-400 with an overdrive. He also carries a C-6 with an Overdrive, along with a modified 700-R4. They claim something like better gas mileage.... (didn't list the price) >I blew up my tranny today. Was driving up a hill when she started >smoking. Fluid was pouring out the front of the tranny so now she's >going into the shop for repair. My question is, has anyone been able to >figure out how to put an overdrive tranny in place of a 727? I have an >81 with the 360 and NP219 and if I'm going to have to spend money (which >I do) I'd like to upgrade but I'm not sure if it is possible at a >reasonable cost. > >Let me know if anyone has any ideas. > >This was not a good Sunday. Now I fell like I shoulda gone to work. > >Gord > > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 11:00:09 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Sunday is Jeep Day Howdy, If you remember last week I got the Cherokee out and drove it to my mom's. Today we needed to take one of our spare lawn mowers to a friend and we drove the Cherokee. I actually got my 15 year old daughter in it along with her friend! So the wife, myself and the two teenage girls delivered the lawn mower in style....rust is style isn't it? :-) My daughter thought my j-10 was the absolute UGLIEST vehicle ever put on the road. The Cherokee is one step up from that. I am finally convincing myself the Cherokee is trustworthy. (remember the ignition switch troubles?) Taking it farther and farther from home :-) C'ya joe- 79 Chief[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 23:30:24 -0400 From: "Steven A. Kaiser" <Steven_Kaiser-at-compuserve.com> Subject: Carb./manifold swap success!! Jeff, I did find the pins for the heat shield and installed as in the instructions. Mine did not fit very well and required some bending along with the cutting you described. I've been thinking that I need to take apart the riser valve to check it internally. So far I've just looked from the outside. My engine only has about 60,000 miles on it. I had the compression tested and it was OK. My smoke is only on startup when the engine is warm and has been sitting for a little while. No smoke on morning cold starts or after engine has cooled for a while. No smoke when running under any conditions. I had thought I had a carb problem and was hoping the new carb would solve the problem but no luck. I did not check the float settings on the new carb. thought it would be set at factory. I'll check it in the morning. Thanks again for the blow by blow instructions. The only thing you might add is a list of gaskets and parts needed above and beyond what is supplied with the carb abd manifold. i.e. PCV grommet, EGR gasket, high tack gasket sealer, RTV etc Steve[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 21:10:46 PST From: irv.lee-at-juno.com (Irv S Lee) Subject: Re: Steven K!! I'm new to amc products, but most chevy's , ford's ,vw's ect, have valve guide seals they get old and hard if not made of viton. some are made of nylon. The majority are nitril rubber compounds. If amc makes have seals checking these might save you a valve job. The proceedure is simple remove rocker arm assembly. put the cylinder you are working on to top dead center. using a valve spring compression tool (on the block type remover) compress valve spring, remove retaining clips, remove spring ,and replace the seal. hope this helps Steve L[Back to Top]
Date: 05 May 97 00:40:12 EDT From: "DOROTHY I. STREICH" <104346.766-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: HXR: SW US RC PDD)> Yeah, ok, I reckon it's all urine, er, yours! PDD)> PDD)> Congrats to the new Southwest RC... Karl Streich! PDD)> PDD)> Now if I can just remember to write this one down.... <grin> PDD)> PDD)> Now, what kind of coverage are we talking about here... say CA, NV, AZ? Just read they might be starting their own, but they are welcome with us if they wish. What about FSJ's of the golden west??? Karl Streich[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 21:43:39 -0700 From: BG <garrison-at-ptw.com> Subject: Re: Carb/manifold swap success!! Steven A. Kaiser wrote: > > Well today I was the day!! > > I swaped in an Edelbrock 1406 carb and EGR manifold for my '76 Cherokee's > 360. It went very smoothly and the entire job took less than 8 hrs > including final adjustments. A BIG thanks to Jeff for his excelent blow by > blow instructions. Awesome... My 360 rebuild has an Edelbrok preformer and holly 600 vac 4bbl...with the Jacobs ignition start and idle r "on the money" not to bad off theline either! > I am having one problem which has been ongoing for some time now. When the > engine is warm the fuel in the carburator boils and causes a flooding > situation if the engine is only off for 5 - 10 minutes making it hard to > start. I get a blus cloud on start up(over rich mix) then it runs fine. > This problem has not changed since the new carb and manifold. I have > checked the heat riser valve on the passenger side exaust and it seems to > be working fine. What else could be causing this??? > > Any suggestions would be appreciated Steve... do you have the thick"insulator" gasket between the carb and Manifold? Also there is an aftermarket heat shield for just this purpose...but befor we go that far, why is your 360 heat surging so hot? What value thermistat r u running? Bert Garrison J-20 , Fj-62 Edwards CA[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 21:48:48 -0700 From: BG <garrison-at-ptw.com> Subject: Re: Steven K!! Steven A. Kaiser wrote: > > Sorry for my typo!! > > I get a puff of blue smoke on warm start up until the engine stabalizes at > idle. Steve... what they r trying to say is you should (with almost 100% certainty) get "Black" not blue smoke for over rich mixture... Blue usually signifies oil burn... :( Bert GarrisonJ-20,Fj-62 Edwards CA[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 01:32:06 -0400 From: Zack Heisey <moosh-at-redrose.net> Subject: Members in CA!! Gentlemen, I would like to ask at least one of you a favor. Over the past 4 years, since I have owned FSJ's, I have been in frequent contact with people at Areo Fuel Tanks. I would really like to have an aux tank for the truck, a 40 gal replacement for the chero and a 29 gal aux for the chero. Of course the sticking point is price. They want $350 for the 40 gal replacement and $460 for the 29 gal. aux. I think this is outrageous. My request is this; Would one, or a couple of you call, or even stop in, and talk to these people, and try and find out if we can get some sort of club discount. You know, give them our staggering membership count, tell them there's lots of us interested because we all drive gas hogs, and ask if they could give maybe a one time rate to the whole list. This is just an idea I cooked up. If one of you would like to try and tackle this, I would appreciate it. Let me know how it goes. Thanks in advance, Zack Heisey '79 J-10 '79 Cherokee Chief Wide Track[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 01:05:47 -0700 From: Joe Schaefer <joes-at-olympus.net> Subject: Aux tanks At 01:32 05-05-97 -0400, you wrote: >Gentlemen, <snip,snip> >I would really like to have an aux tank for >the truck, a 40 gal replacement for the chero and a 29 gal aux for the >chero. Of course the sticking point is price. They want $350 for the >40 gal replacement and $460 for the 29 gal. aux. I think this is >outrageous. >Zack Heisey >'79 J-10 >'79 Cherokee Chief Wide Track Hi Zack, Have you checked into getting some built? If it's a straight forward rectangle etc I wouldn't think it would be near the costs of Aero's. It's been a few years ago but I had 2 tanks built for a boat (250 gal each)and the going rate was about $3/gal for steel and $10/gal for aluminum. I'm sure you could get a lot lighter gauge steel than I needed too :) Try a place that builds duct work or at least has a break press. Maybe grab your tape measure and check bone yards for a tank out of a van/suburban/motorhome etc some of those are in the 35/40+ gal range. Just a thought. Regards, -jj[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 05 May 97 01:43:13 PDT From: jaamize <jaamize-at-nwlink.com> Subject: Re: Snohomish SJ's .. <So there's another one like Old Blue? He's kind of unique in that <he has a padded vinyl roof, sunroof with deflector and an unusual <looking rear carrier with no tire on it right now... ah well my powers of observation aren't all that great. <BG> i was driving by at 35 miles an hour and I saw a blue jeep with a sunroof= .. no deflector though. Alisa[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 05 May 97 02:48:37 PDT From: jaamize <jaamize-at-nwlink.com> Subject: Re: y'all AIN'T gonna believe this... I just got thru looking at your home page, and after reading about how = timex got her name and then reading this I think you might have misnamed = her. I have had alot of timex's and they don't really take that much of = a lickn. I think maybe rolex would be more appropriate. (there is actuall= y another watch I was really thinking of the company makes a indestructab= le divers watch. the name of the company starts with a b and is not bulov= a. I can never remember the name, james wants one. they are almost as cos= tly as a jeep.) ah well, you know there has been all this talk of what's = your favorite jeep commercial some of these jeep feats are conceptually = much better ads then anything I have seen on tv! Alisa[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 05:02:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: ck1-at-pacbell.net
Subject: Speaking of Owners manuals
Would anyone happen to have an owners manual for a 1970 Custom
Wagoneer (model 1414C) with V8-350 ? A photocopy would be OK for
now, but I'd eventually like to find an OEM in fair shape... TIA
All the Best,
Bruce * kb6lwn * ck1-at-pacbell.net * 707-987-4737
... 1970 Jeep Wagoneer (1414C) V8-350 4WD "Pinecone"
Net-Tamer V 1.08X - Test Drive
[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 08:18:03 -0400
From: Kevin LaRue <osfoo-at-megalink.net>
Subject: Re: Speaking of Owners manuals
At 05:02 AM 5/5/97 -0700, you wrote:
> Would anyone happen to have an owners manual for a 1970 Custom
> Wagoneer (model 1414C) with V8-350 ? A photocopy would be OK for
> now, but I'd eventually like to find an OEM in fair shape... TIA
Check out:
http://thejeep.com/manual.html
Be seeing you!
Kevin LaRue
Osfoo
PO Box 62, Peru, Maine 04290
(207)665-2348
osfoo-at-megalink.net
[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 08:26:01 -0400 (EDT) From: GypsyLive-at-aol.com Subject: Re: Tranny questions In a message dated 97-05-05 00:08:03 EDT, you write: > >I blew up my tranny today. Was driving up a hill when she started > >smoking. Fluid was pouring out the front of the tranny so now she's > >going into the shop for repair. My question is, has anyone been able to > >figure out how to put an overdrive tranny in place of a 727? I have an > >81 with the 360 and NP219 and if I'm going to have to spend money (which > >I do) I'd like to upgrade but I'm not sure if it is possible at a > >reasonable cost. > > > >Let me know if anyone has any ideas. > > > >This was not a good Sunday. Now I fell like I shoulda gone to work. > > > >Gord > > Mine has also done this Gord, you are probaby not in for a rebuild unless you kept pushing it!!! The bushing around the converter in the front pump starts to leak, thats where that fluid comes from in the front of a 727, but the bushing is only a few bucks, ( but you may need a new converter also if the groove is bad) but you DO have to seperate the tranny enough to get to the converter so you may want a rebuild anyway.... o h yes, if the bushing was spinning in the front pump housing, you gotta buy a new pump...[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 20:45:10 -0400
From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net>
Subject: rc's
Hey, you CA/NV/AZ guys... have we decided on who's the RC for there yet?
I seem to recall somebody volunteering, but I'll be durned if I can
remember who it is. The reason I ask, is Bruce (ck1-at-pacbell.net) has
volunteered, but I seem to recall Karl volunteering last week, although I
didn't note it anywhere.
I need to get a memory.
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 08:43:57 -0500
From: brewer-at-thaad.tecmas.com (John Brewer)
Subject: Re: The life cycle of an e-mail list
This also applies to The Life Cycle of:
1) A Friendship
2) A Marriage (10 yrs this June 13th, 6b, and loving it!)
3) A Dinner Club
4) A Business
5) A Scientific Discipline
6) A Church
7) A Military Industrial Welfare Complex
8) A Religion
9) A Nation
10) A Government
11) A Planet
I'm detecting a pattern having to do something with Human Nature here...
Judging from the amount of money apparently spent on their rigs by the
members of this list, I'd say we're a shoe-in for 6b! An observation from
previous lists:
/----------($$$ and hired labor)---------> 6a
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---->List----<
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\-----(thrift, ingenuity, and sweat)-----> 6b
This doesn't mean that we're all broke, even though some of us are, it just
means that we enjoy the work and the challenge... where's that Summitt
catalog...
JB
"Any man who would trade liberty for security deserves neither."
Benjamin Franklin
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