Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 07:54:24 -0700
From: "Landen Schooler (the Scotsman)" <skoullar-at-ix.netcom.com>
Subject: HELP! Broken Turbo Diesel Jeep.....................
An old guy at Church has a 1986 turbo diesel Cherokee that's
wounded. While warming it up it dropped an exhaust valve seat, crunch!
What he is looking for is a 1. a rebuilt long block; 2. a good running
used engine; 3. a rebuilt or good used head.
So if anyone in the Jeep world has a line on something like
what he needs, drop me a msg at skoullar-at-ix.netcom.com
Thanks,
Landen Schooler
[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 07:56:19 -0700 From: "Robert Close" <rclose-at-humboldt1.com> Subject: Re: '62-'72 Parts Manual Update ---------- What is actually in the parts manual? Thanks for asking such a green horn question.[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 08:40:27 -0500 From: "Tim Johnson" <scoutman-at-postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... Joe, Where I work holidays are of no importance, Thanksgiving , Christmas, 4th July, you name it I've worked it ! Tim scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net 79 wagon / 63 scout ---------- > From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... > Date: Monday, May 26, 1997 1:55 AM > > So you ARE working tomorrow (Mon) ? not a holiday for you? > C'ya > joe- > > > > > At 10:36 PM 5/25/97 -0500, you wrote: > >Joe, > > On Monday I get off work at 1000 pm (pacific time) so if that time is good > >for you let me know and I can start faxing the pages. Make sure you have > >plenty of paper cause it is 17 pages long... > >Let me know.... > > > >Tim > > > >scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net > >79 wagon / 63 scout > > > >---------- > >> From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> > >> To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > >> Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... > >> Date: Sunday, May 25, 1997 1:55 PM > >> > >> At 11:27 AM 5/25/97 -0500, you wrote: > >> >Just looked around the house and found all 3 articles. If all you out > >there > >> >would like I copy, let me know. I will fax or mail copies to you.. > >> > > >> > Tim Johnson > >> >scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net > >> >79 wagon / 63 scout > >> > > >> I do, I do....when would you fax it? As that is also my > >> internet line. let me know and I'll switch it over. > >> > >> # 317 784-8373 > >> > >> Thanks!!!!!!! > >> > >> Joe- > >> 79 Chief > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the > >command > >> "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >> > >> > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------- > >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the > command > >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 08:38:22 -0500 From: "Tim Johnson" <scoutman-at-postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... Joe, Not a problem. Tim Johnson 5109 Arroyo way Antioch , Ca 94509 scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net 79 wagon / 63 scout ---------- > From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... > Date: Monday, May 26, 1997 1:55 AM > > At 10:36 PM 5/25/97 -0500, you wrote: > >Joe, > > On Monday I get off work at 1000 pm (pacific time) so if that time is good > >for you let me know and I can start faxing the pages. Make sure you have > >plenty of paper cause it is 17 pages long... > >Let me know.... > > > >Tim > > > >scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net > >79 wagon / 63 scout > > > Great! Lets see, 10 pm pacific would be midnight here, perfect! > Send me your adress and I'll send you a couple fsj decals for your trouble. > > C'ya > joe- > > > > > > >---------- > >> From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> > >> To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > >> Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... > >> Date: Sunday, May 25, 1997 1:55 PM > >> > >> At 11:27 AM 5/25/97 -0500, you wrote: > >> >Just looked around the house and found all 3 articles. If all you out > >there > >> >would like I copy, let me know. I will fax or mail copies to you.. > >> > > >> > Tim Johnson > >> >scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net > >> >79 wagon / 63 scout > >> > > >> I do, I do....when would you fax it? As that is also my > >> internet line. let me know and I'll switch it over. > >> > >> # 317 784-8373 > >> > >> Thanks!!!!!!! > >> > >> Joe- > >> 79 Chief > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the > >command > >> "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >> > >> > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------- > >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the > command > >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 08:58:03 -0700 From: Gordon McKenzie <gordmck-at-direct.ca> Subject: Re: Bill & the console... john meister wrote: > What do they want for the console??? What color is it? If it's not > too expensive and not too much bother, perhaps you could retrieve it > for me and bring it with you for the FSJ-fest... Let me know > what it's like... > John, I have a tan console (you do mean the thing between the seats, right?) that I will get rid of. I'm not sure why you'd want it as there is no storage or places for coffee cups. I pulled it out of mine and put in a 4 cup, cooler, CD storage console from Canadian Tire. Anyway, it is tan, it is stock, in good shape and just sitting in the garage. You can have it for shipping costs. Gord[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 11:26:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Timothy Cowden <cowden-at-comp.tamu.edu> Subject: re: '62-'72 Parts book > If anyone else wants to get on this list, let me >know. The more we get, the cheaper each copy will be. Take care, > >Zack Heisey >'79 J-10 >'79 Cherokee Chief Wide Track I'm interested. Tim Cowden '67 Wagoneer[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 11:30:19 -0500 (CDT) From: chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net> Subject: fsj's on parade Have just completed 3 trips in the GW in the last 4 days. 100 mile round trip to the in-laws to pick up their "old" couch (they're remodeling & the 6 year old living room furniture that's never been sat on (they use the family room instead) had to go). Didn't have tires on the '83 yet & an old 360 is still in the back of the '75, so we took the Limited & drove home with the gate down- the couch was too long to close it (and yes, the fumes were bad!) The second trip was 125mi. round trip to pick up a set of 31 x 10.5r15 "comanche" tires that a guy had bought to put on an explorer, but they wouldn't fit. His loss, my gain:) He had gotten them while on a trip, so couldn't easily take them back. I paid $200. Will have them mounted tomorrow. On the way back we came across a first gen. wagoneer. It's originally from Colorado (plates) & there's something wrong under the hood (I could see the timing chain on the tornado engine peeking from behind the shinny dent free grill. the residents said it belonged to a friend of their son & would pass along my number (they want it out of their yard). I'll let you all know if it turns into anything. The last trip was to Shelbyville, Tn to pick up my blue dash for the '63 Lark. 580miles - 50.1 gallons of gas. Not exactly a stellar performance, but we were pushing 65-70mph most of the trip. Highest gas- $1.29 (at home); Cheapest- $1.06 in Kentucky. Used 1 quart of oil (not bad for 169,500 miles). The last couple of miles on the interstate were neat, we came upon a GW (a champagne color w/ wood trim) and a Grand Cherokee. We were a parade for a while (some dork in the right lane wouldn't get out of way for me to come along side of the fsj). Mike Saltsgaver.[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 11:47:26 -0500 (CDT) From: chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net> Subject: shopping list Bruce, I found the front fender marker light. I also looked at the battery box & i'ts not as good as I remembered. rust & stress cracks have gotten to it. Send me your address & I'll send the light to you free. The chrome isn't perfect, but maybe it's better than what you've got. Just send me back the amount of postage. Mike Saltsgaver.[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 12:00:18 -0500 (CDT) From: chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net> Subject: Re: Bill & the console... >John, I have a tan console (you do mean the thing between the seats, >right?) that I will get rid of. I'm not sure why you'd want it as there >is no storage or places for coffee cups. I pulled it out of mine and put >in a 4 cup, cooler, CD storage console from Canadian Tire. This must be a generation gap thing or something. REAL vehicles don't have cup holders:) (that's what that space between the seat & the door are for, right). Sonya is kidding... "what's a CD"? Can you play her "Saturday Night Fever" 8 track on it?? If God had wanted a 1 gallon cup (Sonya's favorite)in a car, he'd have done it a long time ago. Mike Saltsgaver.[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 11:59:05 -0500 From: brewer-at-thaad.tecmas.com (John Brewer) Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... >Joe, > Where I work holidays are of no importance, Thanksgiving , >Christmas, 4th >July, you name it I've worked it ! >Tim I'll bet they're important to the owner! I'm working 8-12:30 Mem.Day but it is by choice. JB "Any man who would trade liberty for security deserves neither." Benjamin Franklin[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 11:29:43 -0500 From: "Tim Johnson" <scoutman-at-postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... Yep , working on Mon. Will get the big bucks, but still have to work. Tim scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net 79 wagon / 63 scout ---------- > From: Tim Johnson <scoutman-at-postoffice.worldnet.att.net> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... > Date: Monday, May 26, 1997 8:40 AM > > Joe, > Where I work holidays are of no importance, Thanksgiving , Christmas, 4th > July, you name it I've worked it ! > Tim > scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net > 79 wagon / 63 scout > > ---------- > > From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> > > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > > Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... > > Date: Monday, May 26, 1997 1:55 AM > > > > So you ARE working tomorrow (Mon) ? not a holiday for you? > > C'ya > > joe- > > > > > > > > > > At 10:36 PM 5/25/97 -0500, you wrote: > > >Joe, > > > On Monday I get off work at 1000 pm (pacific time) so if that time is > good > > >for you let me know and I can start faxing the pages. Make sure you have > > >plenty of paper cause it is 17 pages long... > > >Let me know.... > > > > > >Tim > > > > > >scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net > > >79 wagon / 63 scout > > > > > >---------- > > >> From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> > > >> To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > > >> Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... > > >> Date: Sunday, May 25, 1997 1:55 PM > > >> > > >> At 11:27 AM 5/25/97 -0500, you wrote: > > >> >Just looked around the house and found all 3 articles. If all you out > > >there > > >> >would like I copy, let me know. I will fax or mail copies to you.. > > >> > > > >> > Tim Johnson > > >> >scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net > > >> >79 wagon / 63 scout > > >> > > > >> I do, I do....when would you fax it? As that is also my > > >> internet line. let me know and I'll switch it over. > > >> > > >> # 317 784-8373 > > >> > > >> Thanks!!!!!!! > > >> > > >> Joe- > > >> 79 Chief > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------- > > >> To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the > > >command > > >> "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------- > > >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the > > command > > >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the > command > > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 11:32:59 -0500 From: "Tim Johnson" <scoutman-at-postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... True, you can't just shut down an oil refinery for a day. scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net 79 wagon / 63 scout ---------- > From: John Brewer <brewer-at-thaad.tecmas.com> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... > Date: Monday, May 26, 1997 11:59 AM > > >Joe, > > Where I work holidays are of no importance, Thanksgiving , > >Christmas, 4th > >July, you name it I've worked it ! > >Tim > > > I'll bet they're important to the owner! I'm working 8-12:30 Mem.Day but > it is by choice. > > JB > > > "Any man who would trade liberty for security deserves neither." > Benjamin Franklin > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 15:46:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Chrisharon-at-aol.com
Subject: Tilt steering column fix
This is what I did to fix a loose steering column (at the pivot point for
the tilt) on a '78 Cherokee. Hopefully this will be of help to others with
the same problem.
Special equipment required: Universal puller set (this is what I used) or
perhaps a regular steering wheel
puller.
1) Disconnect battery
2) Remove horn button
3) Remove large nut and washer on steering shaft.
4) Remove the 3 screws in plastic insulator for horn button. Remove as an
assembly: plastic insulator, metal dish, and metal plate.
5) Scribe an alignment mark from steering shaft to steering wheel so you can
reassemble with the wheel in the correct orientation.
6) Use steering wheel puller and remove steering wheel.
7) Remove plastic anti-theft plate.
8) Install steering wheel puller over steering shaft, (be careful not to
crush the plastic cancelling cam (it's also where the horn circuit comes
through)
and tighten shaft nut and washer (that you already took off) over puller.
9) Use two bolts and nuts and install with bolt through puller, with nut on
the
bottom so you can use the bolts to push on (compress) the steering lock
plate.
10) Remove clip from steering shaft. NOTE: My Jeep technical service manual
sais NOT to re-use this clip. I've had mine out twice and have re-used
it both
times, the decision is yours.
11) Decompress lock plate.
12) Remove steering nut, washer, and steering wheel puller.
13) Remove lock plate.
14) Remove cancelling cam, and spring.
15) Remove 4 bolts securing support brace to steering column under dash.
16) Remove 2 bolts securing support to dashboard.
17) Remove column support brace.
18) Disconnect wiring coming from under the column, remove plug from it's
holder
and leave hanging.
19) Remove screw holding turn signal switch handle to switch assembly.
20) Remove 3 screws holding turn signal switch (you'll have to turn the
switch to get
to all 3 screws).
21) Remove turn signal switch, you should be able to feed the wired up
through the
column to give you enough slack to do this. You can get a little more
slack by
lifting the plastic cover (under the column) over the wires.
22) I did this step, but I don't know if it's required or not. Put key in
ignition lock.
Turn to locked position. You should be able to see a small bar coming
out of the
end of the lock. Just to the right of that is a small slot, inert a
small screwdriver
into the slot and push. Remove key lock assembly.
23) Use a pair of long nose pliers, and remove spring clips from shift
indicator on top
of steering column.
29) Remove shift indicator.
30) Remove 2 screws on top of column, shift indicator light, and metal cover.
31) Remove tilt handle.
32) Remove upper column housing (Painted housing where ignition key goes).
33) Reinstall tilt handle.
34) Tilt steering wheel in full up position.
35) Their's a round metal piece towards the bottom with a square hole in it.
Using a screwdriver, push in and turn about 1/4 turn until this piece
comes out.
36) If it didn't come out with the metal cup in the above step, remove
spring.
37) Using a puller tool (I made my own) remove pivot pins. This is what I
did:
Get a 1/2" open end wrench, the screw that came out of the turn
signal
handle, a washer & a nut that will fit the screw. Install nut
onto screw until
it bottoms out, and install washer against nut. Put the 1/2"
wrench over the
pivot pin (make sure the pin will go through the wrench ends when
it's pulled
or you'll strip something out). Install the screw into the pin,
and tighten the
nut until the pin is loose. This is what *I* did, something
else,may work
better for you.
38) Hold the housing on the column, pull on the title handle, and remove the
housing.
That's all the disassembly their is. Their should be 4 loose bolts after
that.
They're not regular bolts, they look almost like a torque bit. I used a 12pt
1/4" drive
socket (don't remember what size). Remove one bolt at a time, clean it,
apply locktight, and reinstall. Then reverse the disassembly instructions
and you're finished. The pivot pins just press back in, not a problem.
Hopefully I didn't leave out too many steps. If anybody uses this info,
please let me know how accurate or helpful this was, and feel free to add to
this, I just went by memory here. I don't know what all years will be
exactly the same. This how-to could also be used for lock replacement, just
stop after step 22.
Chris Enos ('78 Cherokee, TH-400, Q-Track 16% OD P/T, 3.55, 33")
[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 12:50:29 -0700 From: Gordon McKenzie <gordmck-at-direct.ca> Subject: Re: Bill & the console... chrissy saltsgaver wrote: > > > This must be a generation gap thing or something. REAL vehicles don't have > cup holders:) (that's what that space between the seat & the door are for, > right). My Cj had this cupholder that would empty my drink and then force me to stop. > > Sonya is kidding... "what's a CD"? Can you play her "Saturday Night Fever" > 8 track on it?? I'm sorry, but this isn't a generation gap issue. THIS IS A TASTE ISSUE. Anyone who wants to listen to that kinda music, well I don't know but sheesh! DISCO???????? Come on now! You have to be kidding!! Country I can almost understand, BUT DISCO!!!!! > If God had wanted a 1 gallon cup (Sonya's favorite)in a > car, he'd have done it a long time ago. > > Mike Saltsgaver. > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 12:46:46 -0700 From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: long drive... :-( john meister wrote: > > Tom, > > I can appreciate that. Hey, I drove down there in 92... We must > have passed each other somewhere along the coast... > > Well, at least I got to meet you down there. I enjoyed it immensely. > It's very nice down there, and you've got a very nice jeep, even if > it is missing a couple of doors, and cylinders... :-) I just wish > that my camera hadn't messed up on the shot of your wide track > straddling that one wash, and the shot of all three of us together... I still think that's somewhat suspicious <bg>. You may think it's missing doors and cylinders...but at least it still has floorboards...and Oh yeah, I think I recall it having a better 0-60 time than Old Blue, even with the Airedale slobber wind drag factor. > > The camera got traded in for a couple cheaper bodies... So far they > are working out ok. > > john You traded a camera for a couple cheap 4-door bodies? Wow, that was an expensive camera. ;-) Tom[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 13:10:51 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: FSJ-fest sponsorship...
> What kind of sponsorship can you get?
>From: Moake Brian <iw67-at-jove.acs.unt.edu>
I really don't know... I was talking to a guy at the jeep dealer to
see if they'd sponsor it, and he said maybe... I'll follow up this
week... Maybe with them providing some food, space to park, parts to
raffle off???? I don't know, never done anything like this
before...
.... we've entered a whole new realm of public relations that I'm
clueless about, but I learn fast... :-)
later,
john
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 13:17:11 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: FSJ-fest #2
> explore! Where you all end up that day is where you camp.
No camping... I'm not equipped, prepared or interested...
I'd think the folks coming in from out of town will need a place to
stay...
The more I think about it, the more a short day trip out of the
Snohomish / Everett area makes sense, considering fuel costs, and
other logistics...
Pilchuck has two accessible sides, the ski resort is the longer drive
but offers more room and a better view, also a couple hour hike to
the top, which I haven't done yet... We could meet up in Snohomish,
take some pictures, caravan up through Granite Falls and up to the
top of Pilchuck, have a picnic/barbq up top, more pictures and then
folks could take off and explore on their own or hike up the
mountain.
The Big Four Ice Caves are further up the road, 15 to 20 miles or so,
nice picnic/parking area there, not much view, high elevation, will
be cold, and if cloudy, you'll be in the clouds..
The west side of pilchuck is about 20 miles from my house, easily
accessible year round, although not quite as scenic.
There is also Spada Lake...
....the thought process continues...
john
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 13:23:44 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: FSJ-fest - definetly INFORMAL...
> explore! Where you all end up that day is where you camp.
> From: Joe Schaefer <jeep-at-olympus.net>
> Subject: PNW FSJ Fest????
> Hi John,
> I've kinda been following this 'fest' thing even though I prolly
> can't make it. Guess I was mistaken that this was just gonna be a
> bunch of fsj freaks bangin around the woods, doin a little campin
> and whatever. This is startin to sound like an "event". Sponsors??
> Food?? Can't we just fend for ourselves? We do have the room in our
> rigs to bring what we need :) This is gettin a little too 'formal'
> for me... Never had much of a herd instinct. Guess I may just grab a
> couple of extra jerry cans of fuel and go solo...the other way.
> Please don't take this as criticism. Everyone has there own agenda.
> I just don't think this is mine... I hope you all have a blast.
> Looking forward to the reports :) Regards, -jj
Joe,
I think we're on the same wavelength... This will be a gathering
for pictures, to meet others, check out the vehicles, maybe picnic,
bbq or eat at the same restuarant, maybe check out a trail or a
scenic spot, and then disperse. No camping as a group, although
folks my team up and camp.
My family isn't into the herd mentality either. Not trying to
organize a jeep jamboree. This is just a way of meeting all the nice
folks on the List, take some photos, look at each others rigs, answer
questions, make new friends and hang out for a little bit.
For those reasons I think we need to keep whatever activity pretty
close to Snohomish/ Everett... The last one was fun, but mostly we
met, and then dispersed.
I think you'll be quite comfortable with the idea.
Remember, primary objective: PHOTOS of us together. And MEET
others. the other stuff is secondary and expected to be fun.
Nothing other than the group photos is mandatory. There's lots to do
here for everyone. Snohomish is renowned for it's antiques and
there are lots of nice forest service roads in the foothills...
The sponsorship thing is a crazy idea that might not pan out, or
provide us with food for the meeting...
Hey, no minutes, no schedule, etc... :-) Hope I didn't scare
anyone... :-)
later
john
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:51:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Moake Brian <iw67-at-jove.acs.unt.edu> Subject: Re: Bill & the console... On Mon, 26 May 1997 12:50:29 -0700 Gordon McKenzie <gordmck-at-direct.ca> wrote: > chrissy saltsgaver wrote: > > Sonya is kidding... "what's a CD"? Can you play her "Saturday Night Fever" > > 8 track on it?? No but I do listen to my "SNF" CD in my 76 Blazer... does that count?[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:07:42 +0000 From: "William S. McBride" <wmmcb-at-televar.com> Subject: Re: Bill M. Ken - I am in WA state, on the eastern side of the Cascades. I don't think there is any chrome left on the old Wag but I have to go by next week and I will check then. He has a 63 Rambler Classic wagon. Loaded with factory goodies including a 4 bbl. 327 which just purrs. I am getting the complete engine from starter to air cleaner for $225. It might even be a high compression version ( ? 9.7:1 ). I'll get back to you. Bill McBride 1968 J - 100[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:12:37 +0000 From: "William S. McBride" <wmmcb-at-televar.com> Subject: Re: 62-'72 Parts Man. DETAILS Zack - I would like mine punched and in the binder. It sounds like you are going to do a great job. Get the heaviest paper you can talk them into. Let me know when you want the money Bill McBride 1968 J - 100[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:25:24 +0000 From: "William S. McBride" <wmmcb-at-televar.com> Subject: Re: brads page & the PNW FSJ Fest David K. The Wag doesn't have an engine. It used to have a 350. The same yard does have a 63 Rambler Classic wagon with a 4 bbl. 327 that must have been rebuilt at some point as it is in incredible condition. I am buying it for $225 complete with all accessories, brackets, etc. and I will build the engine and keep the accessories as spares. He would take $275 for the whole car ( drive it home ) but I am out of space for vehicles. Try your local yards but don't look for a Jeep, ask for a Rambler. The 327 4bbl. was the performance engine in Ramblers until 65 or 66[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:27:39 +0000 From: "William S. McBride" <wmmcb-at-televar.com> Subject: Re: pages... and FSJ-Fest #2 - PNW John - Snohomish would be fine. I might give me a chance to stop by Olympic and dream a little. I think the wife and kids will come. It will be a day trip for us. Bill McBride 1968 J - 100[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:30:14 +0000 From: "William S. McBride" <wmmcb-at-televar.com> Subject: Re: Bill & the console... John - The console and seats are some light color. I have to go by on Wed. and will check then. Bill McBride 1968 J - 100[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:53:46 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Zack!
ditto
>
> I would like mine punched and in the binder. It sounds like you are
> going to do a great job. Get the heaviest paper you can talk them
> into. Let me know when you want the money
>
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:56:36 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Bill M.
yes, the 4bbl 327 classsic will have 270hp at the flywheel
and 9.7comp. if u dont use the 4bbl intake, dave K will
GLADLY take iit off ur hands!!
William S. McBride wrote:
>
> Ken -
>
> I am in WA state, on the eastern side of the Cascades. I don't think
> there is any chrome left on the old Wag but I have to go by next week
> and I will check then. He has a 63 Rambler Classic wagon. Loaded with
> factory goodies including a 4 bbl. 327 which just purrs. I am getting
> the complete engine from starter to air cleaner for $225. It might
> even be a high compression version ( ? 9.7:1 ). I'll get back to you.
>
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CJ can go, then it's a
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 18:27:55 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... Ok, then I'll switch to fax tonite at 12:00 Thanks! Joe- At 08:40 AM 5/26/97 -0500, you wrote: >Joe, > Where I work holidays are of no importance, Thanksgiving , Christmas, 4th >July, you name it I've worked it ! >Tim >scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net >79 wagon / 63 scout > >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 18:32:32 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Bill & the console... >My Cj had this cupholder that would empty my drink and then force me to >stop. Heck my computer has a cup holder....just push the button and it pops right out! Way cool, push button again and it retracts! >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 16:57:36 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: question for doc...
doc,
you asked a question about water getting around the foam on an amsoil
air filter...
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ONE?????
K&N's typically have a hard rubber seal, very much like a stock paper
element. The Amsoil filters have a metal cage that the foam wraps
around, and on some models they have another layer of denser foam on
the top and bottom... The planar type filters can be a bear to get
into the box because of the extra material used to seal them...
Whenever I'm stuck with buying a K&N because I've got an oddball
vehicle, I have to pay 3 times as much to get a lesser filter... so
what I do is wrap the Amsoil filter material AROUND the K&N so I get
adequate protection... Even a paper element will usually keep water
from going through it, so long as you don't leave it under too
long...
I don't own a vehicle that I'd take in water that deep, all of them
have electric winders and such... I do know that if I did screw up
in a major way that my engine would be fine... even though my
interior wouldn't be... :-)
john
john
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 20:10:13 -0400
From: "David P. Dusenbury" <dp-at-interpath.com>
Subject: 350 Advice
Finally found a Chevy 350 (4 bolt), that is supposed to be running.
This is to go into an M715. If work goes OK in the AM, I'll dissappear
for a couple of hours after lunch Tuesday to check it out.
Its in a '75 Chevy van. 4 Barrel, HEI. Odometer shows 75,000. The yard
guy (I sorta know him) says it used to belong to his cousin, and that
that milage is about right (yeah, sure) I know it should probably be
(1)75,000, but judging by the lack of wear and tear on the upholstery,
etc, pedal pads, etc, this may be right.
If it runs good enough, I want to get it, put it in the 715, and
then maybe rebuild it in 2 - 4 years.
a) Whats a good price range for this motor?
b) More important, what should I check when I crank it?
I figure the obvious, smoke, etc. What else? Compression?
thanks, DP...
[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 20:56:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Sheppard1-at-aol.com Subject: DECALS? Hi Joe, jest wondering if those decals got sent out? you posted about a month ago that they were going out. They sure would look great in that back window!! Thanks, Andrew Sheppard1-at-aol.com[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 19:15:19 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Question on AXLES
Hey guys, got a simple question:
What is a full floating axle?
(what is a normal axle, say like in a Wagoneer with the round cover?)
Why do folks get excited about Dana 60's???
(I've got a rough idea, but Mark asked me and I don't know well
enough to explain it, so that means I don't know enough on the
subject... :-)
thanx,
john meister
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 19:26:19 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Question on AXLES
if the wheel bearing for the axles is mounted TO the
axle, it is called a semi-float axle. which is the type found in
ALL of the wags and cheros. if the axle does not have a wheel
bearing pressed onto it, then it is called a full floating
axle. so instead of the axle suporting the weight of the vehicle,
the axle only has to contend with turning the hub. the hub,
which is VERY similar to the front hub/rotor on the front
of r wags/cheros, is responsible for the mounting of the wheel
and the brake components. thereby releasing the axle soley
float free within the axle tube.
just like the front hub/rotor arrangment, the rear hub has
a spindle too. but this spindle is most likley pressed/welded
into the end of the axle tube, instead of being held
onto it by 6 bolts, as in the case of the front axles
on r wags/chero.
the d60 is a full float design and is very tuff to break. it can
increase the amount of weight that can be carried
by the vehicle, becasue the HUB not the AXLE is supporting the weight
of the vehicle. the hub rides on the spindle and the spindle is
attatched to the axle tube, so there is a direct
line from the wheel to the frame avoiding the axle completly.
the axle just floats inside of the diff tubes.
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 20:04:50 -0700 From: Eric Faust <eric-at-INETWORLD.NET> Subject: Re: Question on AXLES john meister wrote: > > Hey guys, got a simple question: > > What is a full floating axle? > > (what is a normal axle, say like in a Wagoneer with the round cover?) > > Why do folks get excited about Dana 60's??? > > (I've got a rough idea, but Mark asked me and I don't know well > enough to explain it, so that means I don't know enough on the > subject... :-) > > thanx, > john meister > John, For a brief education on axles, check out the Dynatrac web page at http://www.dynatrac.com/dyna4x4.html . Looks like pretty good information. Never done bussiness with them but heard good things. Pretty pricey though. Might be a good link for the IFSJA page. Hope Y'all enjoyed the weekend!! Eric Faust '89 Grand Wagoneer[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 20:18:18 -0700 From: Joe Schaefer <jeep-at-olympus.net> Subject: Re: Question on AXLES >John, > For a brief education on axles, check out the Dynatrac web page at >http://www.dynatrac.com/dyna4x4.html . Looks like pretty good >information. Never done bussiness with them but heard good things. >Pretty pricey though. Might be a good link for the IFSJA page. Hope >Y'all enjoyed the weekend!! > >Eric Faust Can't speak for John, but thanks...interesting site. Regards, -jj[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 20:23:40 -0700 From: Joe Schaefer <jeep-at-olympus.net> Subject: Re: Question on AXLES > >the d60 is a full float design and is very tuff to break. it can >increase the amount of weight that can be carried >by the vehicle, becasue the HUB not the AXLE is supporting the weight >of the vehicle. the hub rides on the spindle and the spindle is >attatched to the axle tube, so there is a direct >line from the wheel to the frame avoiding the axle completly. >the axle just floats inside of the diff tubes. FWIW, The d60 also comes as a semi-floater (d60-2). It's the axle put under the earlier heavy 1/2 ton j-trucks. My 73 j-4000 has one. 5-5 1/2 wheel bolt pattern rather than the 8. Regards, -jj[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 20:25:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Kara Moloney and Mick Delaney <karaandmick-at-mail.telis.org> Subject: Jeeps for sale Hi guys, anyone interested in 327s... FS: 67 Jeep pickup, 327 motor, front axle,transfer case, many parts. PH 916 525 0913 (located in Truckee, North California) If anyone is interested, I can call for info, email me off list Mick[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 20:32:21 -0700 From: BG <garrison-at-ptw.com> Subject: Re: Question on AXLES john meister wrote: > > Hey guys, got a simple question: > > What is a full floating axle? > > (what is a normal axle, say like in a Wagoneer with the round cover?) > > Why do folks get excited about Dana 60's??? > > (I've got a rough idea, but Mark asked me and I don't know well John, (Guys and Gals feel free to jump in) A full floating axle has splines on both ends. I engages the differential and the "flange". This is desirable because the wheel will not separate from axle in the event of axle breakage. The flange holds the wheel via the lugs and brake drum and is supported to the axle housing (tube) via bearings. On "flanged shaft" axles, the flange and axle shaft are one piece! If the axle breaks the hole Shooti'n match comes off!!! You may have witnessed this on some poor guys rig stuck on the side of the road. tire,wheel and axle sticking way out the side of the truck! "Full Float" is the term that describes the axle shaft... it floats in the axle housing. An added benefit is the ability too change the axle without removing the wheel, or jacking the truck up!. Also one could drive home with a broken axle. Lock the front remove the rear drive shaft and away you go! Dana 60's are expensive. They came standard on the 3/4 ton version trucks. (like mine :) ) They are tuff and can take the abuse of heavy hauling. I hope this sheds some light on the subject and please gang... chime in with more info . I'm always willing to learn. Bert Garrison78' J-20, 360 4bbl, T-18, D20... and Dana 60 rear, 40 front Edwards CA[Back to Top]
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