Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 01:24:14 +0000 From: "john meister" <john-at-> Subject: Re: Watch out they're coming from the north... :-) > Try this lure again on front of John M. > He was the one with the deep pockets, not me........<G> > > Besides, as " Host " of the event, doesn't the host always pick up > the tab when you visit them in another town ??? :))) I' m sure if > you just presented your gas receipts to him it wouldn't be a > problem. !! Right John M., PNW Regional Cordinator, < HOST> >> > We are aiming for the Fourth of July w/e, probably Sat, July 5 > > Eddie in Vancouver read the fine print sir, I said I'd pass the hat... :-) I don't get much of an allowance... I may pass the hat a second time for my tank... :-) the only reason I might have deep pockets is cause they have holes in 'em... The Pizza at Alfy's is quite reasonable and they do have unlimited grazing at the salad bar if pizza ain't yer dish... so this trip shouldn't bust the budget too badly... :-) besides, I'm already covering the film expense... that way your stories will have some pictures... we'll let you go down the boat launch at the Snohomish River and get a picture of the wake... should be impressive... john <coordinator> :-) --------------------------------------------------------------- john-at- http://www./~john Snohomish, WA - where JEEPS don't rust, they mold... http://www./~john/statement.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- Full Size Jeep Page Editor - http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/fsj Pacific Northwest Regional IFSJA Coordinator ---------------------------------------------------------------------[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 10:26:35 -0700 From: Frank <falmaas-at-online.no> Subject: Re: After Market ignition GypsyLive-at-aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-05-23 08:23:45 EDT, you write: > > > I have tried the MSD > > system and it did the same as my chrysler ignition, only at a higher > > price > > > > Frank > > Norway > So is that Chrysler ignition Multiple spark? > > and why in the HECK would I want an ignition that didnt fire multiple times > full blast, all the time? I did not say that the chrysler was the same as the MSD, just that the result was the same only at a higher price. I don't want a overkill ignition because I don't want to keep changing my coil and ign. wires all the time. I also don't want my ignition to fire before TDC, on TDC and After TDC. I just want it to fire at the ignition timing I choose for my engine. Frank Norway[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 06:58:41 -0500 From: ROBERT.BUBALA-at-rrd.com Subject: 83 Jeep stepside RR DONNELLEY & SONS COMPANY TO: OAS -00000001 *fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com FROM: ROBERT.BUBALA DATE: 05/28/97 TIME: 07:09:21 SUBJECT: 83 Jeep stepside Hello This weekend I saw an advertisement in the paper for an 83 Jeep stepside 4x4. It has a 360, automatic, air, tilt, new paint, and new 31" tires. It is yellow. I have not seen the truck yet, but the way the guy is describing it, it is pretty clean. He is asking $2350 OBO. I am not sure how much this truck should be going for. Could anyone please let me know what an example price would be. I will look at this truck before the weekend and most likely get it. I may just sell it or keep it as a tow vehicle. I am not sure yet. TIA Robert Bubala mailto:robert.bubala-at-rrd.com Iron Horse 4x4s http://www.off-road.com/~iron[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 08:45:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Timothy Cowden <cowden-at-comp.tamu.edu> Subject: Re: NOW there's a GREAT FSJ idea... :-) john meister wrote: >That's a splendid idea. Not only will you see your 67 on two web >sites, but you'll also be the individual on record as tying the >non-fsj thread into an FSJ thread... BRAVO! > >what color is your 67 or are you going to make me wait for the >pictures??? :-) > My jeep is polychrome. Originally yellow, partially painted blue, tail gate can spray painted green. One whole side is painted in various shades of primer. There are test patches of white epoxy paint. No one camera view can do it justice. Its tempting to let the students at the private school, where my wife teaches art, paint it as a project. It wouldn't be the first 67 wagoneer the schools' students have painted. But that's another story. Tim Cowden '67 Wagoneer[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 09:47:48 -0500 From: Jeff Herbst <JeffHerbst-at-electrosys.com> Subject: Engine Build up Scanned! I got the 360 torque-buildup faxed from Tim this morning, thanks Tim. I scanned them in as group 4 compressed TIF files. This is a black OR white format that compresses well. Note that the pictures are a little goofy when you drop the gray scale. There are 17 pages totaling 1.5 meg. I will be happy to e-mail them to anybody interested. They are named 'Page1.tif' through 'Page17.tif' I have a program that will wrap them in a viewer if needed. Just let me know. John & Doc, since I scanned the FAX it would probably be better to post a scan of the originals for posting if you get permission, but you are welcome to them if you want. Jeff Herbst 1982 Wagoneer LTD Texas[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 09:39:35 -0500 From: "Ashley Michael" <amichael-at-hiwaay.net> Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... If you can scan the articles, I want a copy. Scan it as a bitmap or a JPEG. Thanks, Ash amichael-at-hiwaay.net >Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 17:13:23 -0500 >From: "Sc0" <jjd-at-flex.net> >Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... > >Can ya'll accept a scanned copy? >(I can get access to a BIG flatbed scanner) >what format?[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 10:46:48 -0500 From: "Sc0" <jjd-at-flex.net> Subject: Re: non-fsj Would the Zeiss lenses fit on a Contax III? The original lense for my Contax had that "special" coating....the coating had disentigrated and now I have a useless lense. > sure, care to buy some nice Zeiss lenses??? 135 f2 and 50 f1.4, > not to mention the Tokina and Yashica glass... I could subsidize my > jeep projects by just selling those two Zeiss lenses... Thank you > Uncle Sam for the PX... > > Do you know how to properly pronounce "Nikon"? It's kneecon... > > ttyl, > john[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 10:53:17 -0500 From: "Sc0" <jjd-at-flex.net> Subject: Re: parts interchange manual This would be the greatest idea of all time... except; whose going to do it, and will the provider let him put it "all" up? Or, someone can put it on Disk, many disks and send them out so everyone can have it on their hard drive but having it on a Web Page sounds better. (Maybe on a hidden domain?) > Zack, I think this is a great idea and Doc's idea of putting it on the web > is good too. You could still make this a kindof business op for yourself > maybe by charging "subscription" fee for access to a search engine for the > combined manual. like a few dollars for a year's worth of access. > > ======================================= > Henry Padilla > '68 Jeep Wagoneer > Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser > jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com > > ---------- > > From: Dennis M. "Doc" Fariello <fariello-at-inspace.net> > > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > > Subject: re: parts interchange manual > > Date: Monday, May 26, 1997 7:32 AM > > > > >I was thinking again. I know, there I go thinking again, like I know > > >I'm not paid to do... but if I took the '62-'72 Parts book, and then > > >combined the sections with the FSJ sections from the 74-80 Parts book, > > >and then maybe get the print outs from the guy who has 81-91 on fiche, I > > >could make a complete interchange manual. It would really benifit FSJ's > > >of all years. Someone could compare their part to a newer model, they > > >could be exactly the same, or even a little bit better, if not more > > >available. Now I realize this SOB would be thick, but I think it'd be > > >cool. Thoughts? Comments? > > > > Zack, this is the kind of thing that I think would be PERFECT for > putting > > on the web! That way, one could access everything instantly without the > > need for slaughtering poor defenseless little trees in mass quantities. > > Not to cut into your business... hey, I'm sure some folks would like to > > have the whole thing in print, perhaps we could rig up something where we > > could fax sections, etc... ideas? comments? flames? NOT > > > > > > | > > | > > | | > > | ============= | > > 0_| / \ |_o > > |_|_____----+-----____|_| > > |====|=====|=====|====| > > ||____|_____|_____|____|| > > \_____|___|DOC|___|_____/ > > |\/\/|--------\_/--|\/\/| > > ______|\/\/|_____________|\/\/|______ > > > > Home of the "Bottomless Transfer Case" > > _____________________________________ > > > > email: fariello-at-inspace.net > > http://www.inspace.net/~fariello/fsj > > _____________________________________ > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 08:55:26 -0700 From: Gordon McKenzie <gordmck-at-direct.ca> Subject: Re: Alright!!!!! john meister wrote: > > > > > Gord in Kelowna, > > What's the chances of you making it down. Long way, I know. > > Still, if you can :) > > It would be cool Gord. You could translate for Eddie, I know it'll > be hard for him to communicate with us down here... eh? :-) > Huuuuh? You expect me to understand you Americans? Sorry guys, I'm a McKenzie through and through. Even got a brother Doug (who lives in Maple Ridge where Eddie is).[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 09:04:18 -0700 From: Gordon McKenzie <gordmck-at-direct.ca> Subject: Re: FSJ-fest #2, the Canadian Guests... john meister wrote: > > From: > > Gordon McKenzie <gordmck-at-direct.ca> > > Subject: Re: Eddie May Put Toe > > Over Border When is this again? What I might be able to do is drop > > the wife off at her sisters (PoCo), follow you down, camp at Johns, > > July 5th, Saturday... > PoCo??? Eddie knew what I meant. > > > come back up and get her and head home. She would rather spend the > > time with her nephew than me :-(. > > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Gee, I'd have to drive 8 hours more than you with a > > 360. Just thought I'd mention that. ;-) > > where are you up there??? > Are you in BC? Yes. In Kelowna in the Sunny Okanagan. About 4 hours northeast of Vancouver. Got this big lake between the mountains. > > hope to see you... should I check into available camping? there's a > place in Snohomish that might be nice... Everett has lots of > reasonable hotels now that the Navy Home Port is here... never > noticed 'em before... :-) Hotel???? Give me a small flat piece of land and I'm fine in my tent. May even try the back of the Wag. Still don't know if the wife will let me go or not. Gord[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 09:16:05 -0700 From: Mike_Ahlmann-at-infinity.com Subject: 360 rebuild articles I just read the last of the 3 installments (still available at my local drug store) and feel VERY let down. It was sort of like high school auto shop 101A. It really leaves you wondering HOW DID IT WORK! What kind of performance did they end up with? What do our experienced rebuilders on this list think they should end up with for performance based on the parts they used - Edelbrock cam kit, manifold, carb, etc. Inquiring minds want to know! -Mike A.[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 11:26:07 -0500 From: brewer-at-thaad.tecmas.com (John Brewer) Subject: Polychrome FSJs I wonder how an FSJ painted like one of those multicolor Volkswagens would look? JB "Any man who would trade liberty for security deserves neither." Benjamin Franklin[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 09:37:23 -0700 From: Joe Schaefer <jeep-at-olympus.net> Subject: GVW 101 At 23:37 27-05-97 -0500, you wrote: >Shoot, my scout is 4800 lbs. and my wagon is 6200 lbs. Some days I'm >worried I'll get pulled over for driving on a road with a 3 ton limit :-) > > OK class listen up; the GVW (gross vehicle weight) numbers in the books is "NOT" the weight of your vehicle. On the other end, if you have a J-20 that has a GVW of 8000 lbs you cannot put 8000 lbs in the bed. "It is the recommend max weight a vehicle can carry, including the weight of the vehicle". A full boat GW with power seats, power tissue dispensers etc ships at around 4400-4500 lbs. Yes it is still very heavy. Not a criticism folks just an awakening. GVW seems to be a pretty widely misunderstood number on mail lists, newsgroups and on the street. Lotsa folks think they have 3 ton Wagoneers, 7000 lb Suburbans or their Chevy 3/4 ton can haul 7200 lbs in the bed. Shoool is out... -jj[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 12:39:23 -0500 From: "68 Wagoneer" <jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com> Subject: Re: parts interchange manual Not to sound too outlandish, but all totaled we prob have a hundred meg of empty (unused) web space among us. It might be a pain for someone to link all the disparate sites but it would be free. All we would have to do is volunteer our unused space. Maybe those who offered up their space could have "charter memberships" and be given a discount on the access fee. ======================================= Henry Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com ---------- > From: Sc0 <jjd-at-flex.net> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: Re: parts interchange manual > Date: Wednesday, May 28, 1997 10:53 AM > > This would be the greatest idea of all time... > except; whose going to do it, and will the provider let him put it "all" up? > Or, someone can put it on Disk, many disks and send them out so everyone can > have it on their hard drive but having it on a Web Page sounds better. (Maybe > on a hidden domain?) > > > Zack, I think this is a great idea and Doc's idea of putting it on the web > > is good too. You could still make this a kindof business op for yourself > > maybe by charging "subscription" fee for access to a search engine for the > > combined manual. like a few dollars for a year's worth of access. > > > > ======================================= > > Henry Padilla > > '68 Jeep Wagoneer > > Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser > > jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com > > > > ---------- > > > From: Dennis M. "Doc" Fariello <fariello-at-inspace.net> > > > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > > > Subject: re: parts interchange manual > > > Date: Monday, May 26, 1997 7:32 AM > > > > > > >I was thinking again. I know, there I go thinking again, like I know > > > >I'm not paid to do... but if I took the '62-'72 Parts book, and then > > > >combined the sections with the FSJ sections from the 74-80 Parts book, > > > >and then maybe get the print outs from the guy who has 81-91 on fiche, I > > > >could make a complete interchange manual. It would really benifit FSJ's > > > >of all years. Someone could compare their part to a newer model, they > > > >could be exactly the same, or even a little bit better, if not more > > > >available. Now I realize this SOB would be thick, but I think it'd be > > > >cool. Thoughts? Comments? > > > > > > Zack, this is the kind of thing that I think would be PERFECT for > > putting > > > on the web! That way, one could access everything instantly without the > > > need for slaughtering poor defenseless little trees in mass quantities. > > > Not to cut into your business... hey, I'm sure some folks would like to > > > have the whole thing in print, perhaps we could rig up something where we > > > could fax sections, etc... ideas? comments? flames? NOT > > > > > > > > > | > > > | > > > | | > > > | ============= | > > > 0_| / \ |_o > > > |_|_____----+-----____|_| > > > |====|=====|=====|====| > > > ||____|_____|_____|____|| > > > \_____|___|DOC|___|_____/ > > > |\/\/|--------\_/--|\/\/| > > > ______|\/\/|_____________|\/\/|______ > > > > > > Home of the "Bottomless Transfer Case" > > > _____________________________________ > > > > > > email: fariello-at-inspace.net > > > http://www.inspace.net/~fariello/fsj > > > _____________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 10:54:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Brian Riggs <Brian.Riggs-at-genetics.utah.edu> Subject: FSJ Coverage in Four Wheeler The July issue of Four Wheeler just came out and as pictures of the Easter Jeep Safari in Moab. There is one page called "Full Size Flex" that is pictures of some of My club. Unfortunately I was DEEENIIIEEED!!! =8( However, The Two other FSJs in my club both made it including Miles in the "Griswold Family Truckster", and both of them had the FSJ stickers on their trucks courtesy of me. =8) The Photographer that took these pics was a freelance and sells the pictures to several magazines so maybe I'll still get picked up somewhere. Brian *-------------------------------------------------------------* | briggs-at-genetics.utah.edu | Web Page Development UtahFWDA | | justbr-at-aol.com | Storm Mountain 4X4 SLC Ut | | Salt Lake City, Utah | Red Rock 4Wheelers Moab Ut | |-------------------------------------------------------------| |'79 Wide Trac Cherokee Chief S: AMC 360, T18, Dana20, Dana 44| |front and rear with 4.56 gears & Lock-Rites, 35" BFG M/Ts, 4"| |SkyJacker SoftRide Lift, Some rust, And lots of dents. =8) | *-------------------------------------------------------------*[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 09:57:19 -0700 From: Joe Schaefer <jeep-at-olympus.net> Subject: Re: 83 Jeep step side > Hello > > This weekend I saw an advertisement in the paper for an 83 Jeep > stepside 4x4. It has a 360, automatic, air, tilt, new paint, and new > 31" tires. It is yellow. I have not seen the truck yet, but the way > the guy is describing it, it is pretty clean. He is asking $2350 OBO. > Robert, You're out in the rust belt somewhere aren't you? Here in the PNW that truck would sell for about $4000+ but that would mean no rust at all. Sounds like a nice truck. (I like stepsides :) Since you'll be towing a cj8 with it, hope that it has the optional 3.31 gears rather than the stock 2.73's. Don't let that fact put you off Jeeps though. All makes had lousy stock gearing in the 80's. Regards, -jj[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 10:09:51 -0500 From: "Tim Johnson" <scoutman-at-postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: GVW 101 Okay, I see the light. Just gimme a minute to get the sleep outa my eyes. :-) scoutman-at-worldnet.att.net 79 wagon / 63 scout ---------- > From: Joe Schaefer <jeep-at-olympus.net> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: GVW 101 > Date: Wednesday, May 28, 1997 11:37 AM > > At 23:37 27-05-97 -0500, you wrote: > >Shoot, my scout is 4800 lbs. and my wagon is 6200 lbs. Some days I'm > >worried I'll get pulled over for driving on a road with a 3 ton limit :-) > > > > > > OK class listen up; the GVW (gross vehicle weight) numbers in the books is > "NOT" the weight of your vehicle. On the other end, if you have a J-20 that > has a GVW of 8000 lbs you cannot put 8000 lbs in the bed. > > "It is the recommend max weight a vehicle can carry, including the weight > of the vehicle". > > A full boat GW with power seats, power tissue dispensers etc ships at > around 4400-4500 lbs. Yes it is still very heavy. > > Not a criticism folks just an awakening. GVW seems to be a pretty widely > misunderstood number on mail lists, newsgroups and on the street. Lotsa > folks think they have 3 ton Wagoneers, 7000 lb Suburbans or their Chevy 3/4 > ton can haul 7200 lbs in the bed. > > Shoool is out... > -jj > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 12:18:20 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: GVW 101 > >OK class listen up; the GVW (gross vehicle weight) numbers in the books is >"NOT" the weight of your vehicle. On the other end, if you have a J-20 that >has a GVW of 8000 lbs you cannot put 8000 lbs in the bed. > >"It is the recommend max weight a vehicle can carry, including the weight >of the vehicle". > >A full boat GW with power seats, power tissue dispensers etc ships at >around 4400-4500 lbs. Yes it is still very heavy. > >Not a criticism folks just an awakening. GVW seems to be a pretty widely >misunderstood number on mail lists, newsgroups and on the street. Lotsa >folks think they have 3 ton Wagoneers, 7000 lb Suburbans or their Chevy 3/4 >ton can haul 7200 lbs in the bed. > >Shoool is out... >-jj > Joe is 100% correct! I've noticed the same over the years, guys look at that tag and go crazy. I haven't put the chief on the scales but I'm betting not much (if at all) over 4,000 lbs. Right on Joe! C'ya >[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 12:20:20 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: FSJ Coverage in Four Wheeler >However, The Two other FSJs in my club both made it including Miles in the >"Griswold Family Truckster", and both of them had the FSJ stickers on >their trucks courtesy of me. =8) btw, the real Griswold family truckster ended up in Indianapolis a while back. Saw it in the paper for sale. C'ya >[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 10:43:33 -0700 From: Joe Schaefer <jeep-at-olympus.net> Subject: GF Truckster non-fsj > >btw, the real Griswold family truckster ended up in Indianapolis a while >back. Saw it in the paper for sale. > > >C'ya > What the hell was that thing anyway. Sure was ugly :) -jj[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 13:14:10 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: GF Truckster non-fsj At 10:43 AM 5/28/97 -0700, you wrote: >> >>btw, the real Griswold family truckster ended up in Indianapolis a while >>back. Saw it in the paper for sale. >> >> >>C'ya >> > >What the hell was that thing anyway. Sure was ugly :) > >-jj > I 'think' it started out a F*ord wagon....with a bunch of add-ons :-) >[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 12:17:17 -0700 From: "Landen Schooler (the Scotsman)" <skoullar-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... Count me in on the scanned copies. Landen Schooler Ashley Michael wrote: > > If you can scan the articles, I want a copy. Scan it as a bitmap or a > JPEG. > > Thanks, > Ash > amichael-at-hiwaay.net > > >Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 17:13:23 -0500 > >From: "Sc0" <jjd-at-flex.net> > >Subject: Re: AMC 360 hi-torque buildup in 4X4 mag... > > > >Can ya'll accept a scanned copy? > >(I can get access to a BIG flatbed scanner) > >what format? > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 13:26:06 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: 60's Wag in movie I just watched a movie on HBO2 called "One man's war" with Anthony Hopkins. True story situated in South America. Bottom line...all through the show he drove a white 60's Wagoneer...no chrome, no fake wood, very clean, no rust. Of course they trashed it in the end :-( C'ya Joe- -seems Hollywood is the demise of many fsj's-[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 12:01:46 -0700 From: "Jandrt, Rick" <rick.jandrt-at-nissan-usa.com> Subject: I'm BAACK!!! >Well started the new job last Thursday and finally got around to getting the >personal address book updated with the old e-mail addresses. Sure have missed >this list for the past couple weeks. >So any more new members for the Rocky Mountaing Region? > >Rick(chocolate moose) >Lakewood, Colorado >OSHWEGO Jeepers >FSJ Rocky Mountain Region Coordinator >Colorado Association of 4 Wheel Drive Clubs, Inc. >United Four Wheel Drive Association >rick.jandrt-at-nissan-usa.com (new e-mail address) >[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 13:02:11 -0700 From: "Landen Schooler (the Scotsman)" <skoullar-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Engine Build up Scanned! Jeff, How about firing a copy my way. Thanks, Landen Schooler[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 97 14:10:02 CDT From: hanstr-at-cimsys01.aud.alcatel.com (Tony Hanson) Subject: Charter member quest and stuff... Hey Jeep persons... What a wonderfool weekend, didnt get a fourth of what I wanted to get done, but a bad day out is better than a good day in!! Took vacation Friday and Tuesday so 3 turned into 5.(Is that why there were almost 500 offerings from the list in my mailbox this AM???) I love it... I tried to email Allen Lundgren, the only Texan that was a charter member of the FSJlist and it didnt bounce and it hasnt been returned... Allen, are you out there sumwars?? I finally got the confindence built up to drive my Wag to work today. Actually had to because my son Chad blew the motor out of his Ramcharger and I had to loan him my Ramcharger to use for some work he is doing for me this week. It did well, although I have a leak in the overflow tube on the gas tank. I heard from Jeff Gunn, alive and well and unwilling to get rid of his beloved Cherokee no matter how many 'vettes are in his possesion. He will be getting a new email address in a couple of weeks, and will hopefully get back on the list... Later..... Tony R. Hanson (hanstr-at-cimsys01.aud.alcatel.com) IFSJA TX/OK Chapter RC 1964 Wagoneer Copeville, Texas[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 97 14:23:21 CDT From: hanstr-at-cimsys01.aud.alcatel.com (Tony Hanson) Subject: Re: NOW there's a GREAT FSJ idea... :-) Tim Cowden did say: snippage >>as a project. It wouldn't be the first 67 wagoneer the schools' students >>have painted. But that's another story Well. We are waiting Tim. Its not nice to tease your friends and make them wait.... Tony R. Hanson (hanstr-at-cimsys01.aud.alcatel.com) IFSJA TX/OK Chapter RC 1964 Wagoneer Copeville, Texas[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 97 14:38:07 CDT From: hanstr-at-cimsys01.aud.alcatel.com (Tony Hanson) Subject: Engineering Definitions... For all you engineering types, AND the mechanical engineers too. :) SOME GOOD ENGINEERING MATERIAL TOP Twenty-One Engineering Definitions 1. A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES ARE BEING TRIED We have no idea how we are going to do it. 2. AN EXTENSIVE REPORT IS BEING PREPARED FOR A FRESH APPROACH TO THE PROBLEM We just hired three kids right out of college. 3. CLOSE PROJECT COORDINATION We know who to blame. 4. A MAJOR TECHNOLOGICAL BREAKTHROUGH It works okay, but looks very high tech. 5. CUSTOMER SATISFACTION IS ASSURED ON DELIVERY We are so far behind schedule the customer will be happy to get it delivered. 6. PRELIMINARY OPERATIONAL TESTS WERE INCONCLUSIVE The thing blew up when we turned it on. 7. TEST RESULTS WERE EXTREMELY GRATIFYING We're surprised the thing works. 8. THE ENTIRE CONCEPT WILL HAVE TO BE ABANDONED The only person who understood the thing quit. 9. IT'S STILL IN PROCESS It's so wrapped up in red tape that the situation is hopeless. 10. WE'LL LOOK INTO IT Screw it! We have enough problems for now. 11. PLEASE READ AND INITIAL Let's spread responsibility around for the screw up. 12. GIVE US THE BENEFIT OF YOUR THINKING We'll listen to what you have to say as long as it doesn't interfere with what we've already done. 13. GIVE US YOUR INTERPRETATION I can't wait to hear this crap! 14. SEE ME, LET'S DISCUSS IT Come into my office, I'm lonely. 15. ALL NEW Parts not interchangeable with the previous design. 16. RUGGED Too heavy to lift! 17. LIGHTWEIGHT Lighter than RUGGED. 18. YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT One finally works. 19. ENERGY SAVING Savings are achieved when the power switch is off. 20. LOW MAINTENANCE If it breaks it's fried. 21. IT'S UNDER INVESTIGATION I've had such a small amount of work to do lately that I've been blowing that particular project off, and I'm just here screwing around! Tony R. Hanson (hanstr-at-cimsys01.aud.alcatel.com) IFSJA TX/OK Chapter RC 1964 Wagoneer Copeville, Texas[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 97 13:22:06 PDT From: "Alisa Mize" <jaamize-at-nwlink.com> Subject: Re: NOW there's a GREAT FSJ idea... :-) Its tempting to let the > students at the private school, where my wife teaches art, paint it > as a project. It wouldn't be the first 67 wagoneer the schools' studen= ts > have painted. But that's another story. > > Tim Cowden > '67 Wagoneer cool, an Art jeep I have never seen an art jeep. art cars can be done tastefully, but not usually:) we have a plethora of them here in seattle. my favorite is the car, can't tell what kind it was that is laden with plastic toys. haven't seen it in a year or so though, but there is one I bike by regularily that was first painted various shades of blue and green like rippling h20 then fish (rainbow trout I think) are ] stenciled over that. it looks quite nice. We decorated my husbands ford fairliane years ago. the trannie was going bad on it so he figured what the kronk why not spray paint it. we did a gruesome job! but actually it increased the vehicles value. a local fairlain junky who wanted it as a parts car thought it was great. cause he could have a chance to drive a real art car around until it died, then he could use the parts, and he wasn't sure that he wouldn't get attached to it and fix it up after all. sorry, my tounge got set off it's hinges again:) Alisa[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 16:00:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Timothy Cowden <cowden-at-comp.tamu.edu> Subject: Re: NOW there's a GREAT FSJ idea... :-) At 02:23 PM 5/28/97 CDT, you wrote: > >Tim Cowden did say: > >snippage >>>as a project. It wouldn't be the first 67 wagoneer the schools' >students >>>have painted. But that's another story > >Well. We are waiting Tim. Its not nice to tease >your friends and make them wait.... > Tony R. Hanson (hanstr-at-cimsys01.aud.alcatel.com) If you insist. It's more of a tale of missed opportunity. A few years ago, my wife was driving the Wagoneer regularly to work. The headmistress at the school also drove a '67 Wagoneer. The other Wagoneer was in need of a paint job and the students volunteered. I don't know what kind of paint they used, but it was applied with brushes. It didn't look too bad from a distance. Just a couple of years ago, she sold the Wagoneer. I asked her about it, and she said, "Oh, I should have asked if you wanted it." Which I did. Tim Cowden '67 Wagoneer[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 15:04:17 -0700 From: Joe Schaefer <jeep-at-olympus.net> Subject: Re: NOW there's a GREAT FSJ idea... :-) <Big snip> >after all. >sorry, my tounge got set off it's hinges again:) >Alisa > Hey Alisa, How come all your text is just on the left side of the page? ;) Ok, ok...it wasn't cute but it was fun :) -jj[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 17:28:57 -0500 From: Jeff Herbst <JeffHerbst-at-electrosys.com> Subject: 360 build up OK, I discovered that I am missing page 2 of the 360 torque build-up. Tim should refax it to me tonight. I have a way of wrapping all the pages in a .exe tif viewer for those of you interested. Send requests to JeffHerbst-at-electrosys.com and I will e-mail them out sometime tomorrow. BTW some of you are on CompuServe, when I used them their e-mail could not handle a binary file. Has this changed? If not, the files won't get through to you! Jeff Herbst 1982 Wagoneer LTD Texas[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 15:45:45 -0700 From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: Super Ken's Super DID...have an AMC 327!! acutally its an 350, but for smogg purposes, its listed as a GM 327!!! :) William S. McBride wrote: > > I thought Ken had an AMC 327. > -- ********To reply, use ONLY the email address below******** Sincerely kenneth e. wetherall If a Wagoneer can go where a CJ can go, then it's kenns-at-concentric.net a Super Wagoneer[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 15:51:34 -0700 From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: the facts... gee, i use the fran 326 in the Super!! > MINUTES TO REACH 5" H20: > > Motorvator (MPA-12) paper - 10.0 minutes > K&N (E-1500) oil-wetted gauze - 10.8 minutes > Fram (CA326) paper - 19.2 minutes > AMSOIL (LTF-31) the "base model" - 28.4 minutes > AMSOIL (TS-31) TWO STAGE - 37.3 minutes > -- ********To reply, use ONLY the email address below******** Sincerely kenneth e. wetherall If a Wagoneer can go where a CJ can go, then it's kenns-at-concentric.net a Super Wagoneer[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 16:05:18 -0700 From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: GVW 101 my Super shipped at 4600lbs!! and it aint got PL PW PSeats > A full boat GW with power seats, power tissue dispensers etc ships at > around 4400-4500 lbs. Yes it is still very heavy. > -- ********To reply, use ONLY the email address below******** Sincerely kenneth e. wetherall If a Wagoneer can go where a CJ can go, then it's kenns-at-concentric.net a Super Wagoneer[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 16:06:26 -0700 From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: FSJ Coverage in Four Wheeler XL brian!! > The Photographer that took these pics was a freelance and sells the > pictures to several magazines so maybe I'll still get picked up somewhere. > > Brian > -- ********To reply, use ONLY the email address below******** Sincerely kenneth e. wetherall If a Wagoneer can go where a CJ can go, then it's kenns-at-concentric.net a Super Wagoneer[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 16:11:23 -0700 From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: NOW there's a GREAT FSJ idea... :-) hey...at least its not ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE PAGE!!!!!! Joe Schaefer wrote: > > <Big snip> > > >after all. > >sorry, my tounge got set off it's hinges again:) > >Alisa > > > > Hey Alisa, > How come all your text is just on the left side of the page? ;) > > Ok, ok...it wasn't cute but it was fun :) > > -jj > -- ********To reply, use ONLY the email address below******** Sincerely kenneth e. wetherall If a Wagoneer can go where a CJ can go, then it's kenns-at-concentric.net a Super Wagoneer[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 16:14:23 -0700 From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Tom A!!!!! tom i call the number and it just rings, also, info didni have any thing either. infomation states that the 313 area code is in MI!!! pls help!! Tom Anhalt wrote: > > (which have the switch pitch TH400 conversion kits - p35) They also > sell complete TH400s that are already converted. Enjoy: > > Poston Enterprises Buick Parts > 206 N Main Street > Atmore, AL 36502 > (313)368-8577 > > Tom Anhalt > '81 Cherokee Laredo > As promised, here is the phone number and address for Poston Enterprises > -- ********To reply, use ONLY the email address below******** Sincerely kenneth e. wetherall If a Wagoneer can go where a CJ can go, then it's kenns-at-concentric.net a Super Wagoneer[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 16:34:43 -0700 From: Joe Schaefer <jeep-at-olympus.net> Subject: Re: GVW 101 At 16:05 28-05-97 -0700, you wrote: >my Super shipped at 4600lbs!! and it aint got PL PW PSeats > Yeah, they put 'metal' in the old rigs. If your super had all the electo doodads the late wags have, it prolly would have weighed 3 tons! :) -jj[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 16:54:28 -0700 From: Joe Schaefer <jeep-at-olympus.net> Subject: Re: Tom A!!!!! At 16:14 28-05-97 -0700, you wrote: >tom i call the number and it just rings, also, info didni have any >thing either. infomation states that the 313 area code >is in MI!!! > >pls help!! > 313 is MI. AL is 205 or 334 -jj[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 17:44:12 -0700 From: "Renshaw, Ken" <krenshaw-at-resumix.com> Subject: HELP! TH400 Ouput Shaft Needed! Afternoon all- Say.... Would any of you happen to have the output shaft for a TH400 transmission that couples to the Jeep Quadratrac? I seem to have chewed the splines off of mine...... ~8^{ Thanks LARGE !!! -Ken[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:02:09 -0500 From: Jeff Herbst <JeffHerbst-at-electrosys.com> Subject: RE: NOW there's a GREAT FSJ idea... :-) > >hey...at least its not ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE PAGE!!!!!! > >> Hey Alisa, >> How come all your text is just on the left side of the page? ;) I wish you guys would leave her be. I had NO problems before when some of you said all you saw was a single line, but Now her posts are about 12 characters wide and 4 screens tall! (oops! now I'm asking for it aren't I) Jeff Herbst 1982 Wagoneer LTD Texas[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:11:47 -0500 From: Jeff Herbst <JeffHerbst-at-electrosys.com> Subject: Radio OK first the embarrassing story. Driving home a coupla weeks ago my 2 year old Kenwood radio abruptly quit playing! Everything seemed to work, tuning, cassette, seek etc. but no sound. Took out the glove box and plugged the line level out into a boombox and it played fine. So I assume that the built in amp is out and go out and buy a new Kenwood 1 step up. Hook it up to the old pigtail and ..... Nothing! Turns out there was a speaker wire with striped insulation and it was touching the body. Kenwood has a protect circuit that would not let the amp come on. Soooooo Anybody want to buy a Kenwood KRC-2006 ( or is it KCR?) anyway its a great radio - AM/FM 18 station preset, seek, auto reverse cassette, bass & treble. 15 Watts x4, or 25 watts x2. preamp out, everything except CD-Control(like my NEW one). Paid $229.00 new, ship to ya for $75.00. Fits FSJ perfectly! ( Note the FSJ content). Even give you new wiring harness since I used the old one on the new radio.] Jeff Herbst 1982 Wagoneer LTD Texas[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 18:11:39 -0700 From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: NOW there's a GREAT FSJ idea... :-) gee, men a NEVER satisfied!! ;) Jeff Herbst wrote: > > > > >hey...at least its not ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE PAGE!!!!!! > > > >> Hey Alisa, > >> How come all your text is just on the left side of the page? ;) > > I wish you guys would leave her be. I had NO problems before when some > of you said all you saw was a single line, but Now her posts are about > 12 characters wide and 4 screens tall! > (oops! now I'm asking for it aren't I) > -- ********To reply, use ONLY the email address below******** Sincerely kenneth e. wetherall 'If a Wagoneer can go where a CJ can go, then it's a kenns-at-concentric.net Super Wagoneer'[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 21:06:56 -0500 (CDT) From: chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net> Subject: RE: NOW there's a GREAT FSJ idea... :-) >I wish you guys would leave her be. I had NO problems before when some >of you said all you saw was a single line, but Now her posts are about >12 characters wide and 4 screens tall! >(oops! now I'm asking for it aren't I) > >Jeff Herbst >1982 Wagoneer LTD >Texas > I've been following this saga & haven't a clue what the problems have been. Alisa's posts have always been regular width at my house. AFter she modified, it is a few words narrower on the right side but not much. Observations from the cornfield, Mike Saltsgaver[Back to Top]
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