From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Wed Oct 11 15:07:37 2000 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, October 11 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1062 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: Bad vibrations Re: fsj: Frutti-Dawg Re: fsj: Frutti-Dawg fsj: This is a FYI... 809 area code... beware! Re: fsj: This is a FYI... 809 area code... beware! fsj: whoa, that looks nice! Re: fsj: Bad vibrations fsj: Re: whoa, that looks nice! Re: fsj: whoa, that looks nice! fsj: Re: whoa, that looks nice! fsj: Re: Re: whoa, that looks nice! Re: fsj: This is a FYI... 809 area code... beware! FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:22:37 -0500 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: Re: fsj: Bad vibrations Sounds like the Drive line is not aligned up right.. I would go with number one.. As your rpm's go up.. it's getting worse.. How did the U joints feel? Is your drive line straight? or it could be bearings.. R.J. Landon Tesar wrote: > Hi, > > OK. so last night I decided to lube chassis,etc. Had to drop the front > and rear driveshafts to get to the grease zerks on the front of each > driveshaft's u-joints. I had the back right side jacked up so I could > rotate the back driveshaft for easy access. > This morning I get a high speed drumming that feels like it's coming > from the drivetrain. Starts at about 52 mph and gets worse with speed, > so I kept it at about 60. > > Could this be caused by: > 1. rotating the back driveshaft 180 degrees out from original position > with respect to the ujoint yoke on the back of the TC ? > 2. allowing grease to 'push out' the u-joint caps, which may not have > returned to their original position, causing an imbalance ? > 3. Overtightening the bolts that hold the half-moon clamps over the > u-joint caps ? (they weren't too tight to begin with) > > Please pass along any experiences.. > > - Landon > '89 GW ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:13:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Frutti-Dawg A: South Saattle. I have IBS. Wanna trade? Karl wrote: hehe I have the flu. Where do you live? - ----- Original Message ----- I wrote: Plaid! There I said it! What useless virus do you have it your bag for me? (Nice thing about Webtv is I can handle all sorts of Virii w/o risk of infection!) ************************************* JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:08:42 -0700 From: "Karl-at-Nookit.com" Subject: Re: fsj: Frutti-Dawg hehe I have the flu. Where do you live? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Blair" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:08 PM Subject: Re: fsj: Frutti-Dawg > Plaid! There I said it! What useless virus do you have it your bag for > me? (Nice thing about Webtv is I can handle all sorts of Virii w/o > risk of infection!) > > ************************************* > JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 > http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html > ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:34:31 -0500 From: "R.J. Baynum" Subject: fsj: This is a FYI... 809 area code... beware! I am passing this along as a FYI.. This is not a joke.. Thanks.. R.J. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~***~*~*~*~~* DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809 This one is being distributed all over the US. This is pretty scary- especially given the way they try to get you to call. Be sure you read this & pass it on to all your friends & family so they don't get scammed! * MAJOR SCAM * Don't Respond To Emails, Phone Calls, Or Web Pages * Which Tell you to Call An "809" Phone Number. This is a very important issue of Scam Busters! Because it alerts you to a scam that is spreading *extremely* quickly - can easily cost you $100 or more, and - is difficult to avoid unless you are aware of it. * This scam has also been identified by the National Fraud Information Center and is costing victims a lot of money. There are lots of different versions of this scam, but HERE'S HOW IT WORKS: * You will receive a message on your answering machine or your pager, which asks you to call a number beginning with area code 809. The reason you're asked to call varies; it can be to receive information about a family member who has been ill, to tell you someone has been arrested, died, to let you know you have won a wonderful prize, etc.. In each case, you're told to call the 809 number right away. Since there are so many new area codes these days, people unknowingly return these calls. * If you call from the US, you will apparently be charged $25 per-minute! * Or, you'll get a long recorded message. The point is, they will try to keep you on the phone as long as possible to increase the charges. * Unfortunately, when you get your phone bill, you'll often be charged more than $100.00. * WHY IT WORKS: * The 809 area code is located in the British Virgin Islands (the Bahamas). The 809 area code can be used as a "pay-per-call" number, similar to 900 numbers in the US. Since 809 is not in the US, it is not covered by U.S. regulations of 900 numbers, which require that you be notified and warned of charges and rates involved when you call a "pay-per-call" number. There is also no requirement that the company provide a time period during which you may terminate the call without being charged. Further, whereas many U.S. phones have 900 number blocking to avoid these kinds of charges, 900 number blocking will not prevent calls to the 809 area code. * We recommend that no matter how you get the message, if you are asked to call a number with an 809 area code that you don't recognize, investigate further and/or disregard the message. Be wary of email or calls asking you to call an 809 area code number. It's important to prevent becoming a victim of this scam, since trying to fight the charges afterwards can become a real nightmare. That's because you did actually make the call. If you complain, both our local phone company and your long distance carrier will not want to get involved and will most likely tell you that they are simply providing the billing for the foreign company. You'll end up dealing with a foreign company that argues they have done nothing wrong. * Please forward this entire message to your friends, family and colleagues to help them become aware of this scam so they don't get ripped off. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:23:32 -0700 From: Paul & Megan Kershner Subject: Re: fsj: This is a FYI... 809 area code... beware! Its true. In fact if you check out the www.snopes.com website, they explain everthing about this scam (Its not really like a 900 call, but you are charged very high international call charges) and how they will be expanding to the area codes 242, 246, 264, 268, 284, 345, 441, 473, 664, 758, 767, 784, 787, 868, 869, 876 as well as 809. Just don't call back numbers you aren't familiar with! pk "R.J. Baynum" wrote: > I am passing this along as a FYI.. This is not a joke.. > Thanks.. > > R.J. > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~***~*~*~*~~* > > DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809 > This one is being distributed all over the US. This > is pretty scary- > especially given the way they try to get you to > call. Be sure you > read this & pass it on to all your friends & family > so they don't get > scammed! > * MAJOR SCAM > * Don't Respond To Emails, Phone Calls, Or Web > Pages > * Which Tell you to Call An "809" Phone Number. > This is a very > important issue of Scam Busters! Because it > alerts you to a scam > that is spreading *extremely* quickly - can > easily cost you $100 > or more, and - is difficult to avoid unless you > are aware of it. > * This scam has also been identified by the > National Fraud > Information Center and is costing victims a lot > of money. There > are lots of different versions of this scam, but > HERE'S HOW IT WORKS: > * You will receive a message on your answering > machine or your > pager, which asks you to call a number beginning > with area code > 809. The reason you're asked to call varies; it > can be to receive > information about a family member who has been ill, > to tell you > someone has been arrested, died, to let you know > you have won > a wonderful prize, etc.. In each case, you're told > to call the 809 > number right away. > Since there are so many new area codes these days, > people > unknowingly return these calls. > * If you call from the US, you will apparently be > charged $25 > per-minute! > * Or, you'll get a long recorded message. The > point is, they will > try to keep you on the phone as long as possible to > increase the > charges. > * Unfortunately, when you get your phone bill, > you'll often be > charged more than $100.00. > * WHY IT WORKS: > * The 809 area code is located in the British > Virgin Islands (the > Bahamas). The 809 area code can be used as a > "pay-per-call" number, > similar to 900 numbers in the US. Since 809 is > not in the US, it is > not > covered by U.S. regulations of 900 numbers, which > require that you > be notified and warned of charges and rates > involved when you call > a "pay-per-call" number. There is also no > requirement that the > company provide a time period during which you may > terminate the > call without being charged. Further, whereas many > U.S. phones have > 900 number blocking to avoid these kinds of > charges, 900 number > blocking will not prevent calls to the 809 area > code. > * We recommend that no matter how you get the > message, if you > are asked to call a number with an 809 area code > that you don't > recognize, investigate further and/or disregard the > message. Be > wary of email or calls asking you to call an 809 > area code number. > It's important to prevent becoming a victim of this > scam, since > trying to fight the charges afterwards can become a > real nightmare. > That's because you did actually make the call. If > you complain, > both our local phone company and your long distance > carrier will > not want to get involved and will most likely tell > you that they are > simply providing the billing for the foreign > company. You'll end > up dealing with a foreign company that argues they > have done > nothing wrong. > * Please forward this entire message to your > friends, family and > colleagues to help them become aware of this scam > so they don't > get ripped off. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:57:00 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: whoa, that looks nice! I took today off to work on Superdawg, but instead I'm sitting upstairs with my wife who came down with some sort of bug... :( I'm reading my "Learning Perl" book in prepartion for my NY trip next week and just came down to check email... Karl was over last night looking at his soon to be 77 Wagoneer, so I guess he figured out how to get on the list... Welcome Karl, it was pleasure meeting you last night along with Dave, who is soon to be an FSJ owner as well... (75, right? ) I wonder what these colors would be in real life? dalmation? fire engine red? paisley ties??? y'all are outta control. :) I'm gonna put 'em all on one page so I can view 'em. Using NON-microsoft tools, I've created: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/SuperDawg/Colors/ :) john - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ "The truth which makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." ---Herbert Sebastian Agar Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:06:19 -0500 From: "Landon Tesar" Subject: Re: fsj: Bad vibrations Well, it's a before and after thing. Before smooth and nice, after annoying and discomforting. - - L "R.J. Baynum" wrote: > Sounds like the Drive line is not aligned up right.. I would go with number one.. As > your rpm's go up.. it's getting worse.. > How did the U joints feel? Is your drive line straight? or it could be bearings.. > > R.J. > > Landon Tesar wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > OK. so last night I decided to lube chassis,etc. Had to drop the front > > and rear driveshafts to get to the grease zerks on the front of each > > driveshaft's u-joints. I had the back right side jacked up so I could > > rotate the back driveshaft for easy access. > > This morning I get a high speed drumming that feels like it's coming > > from the drivetrain. Starts at about 52 mph and gets worse with speed, > > so I kept it at about 60. > > > > Could this be caused by: > > 1. rotating the back driveshaft 180 degrees out from original position > > with respect to the ujoint yoke on the back of the TC ? > > 2. allowing grease to 'push out' the u-joint caps, which may not have > > returned to their original position, causing an imbalance ? > > 3. Overtightening the bolts that hold the half-moon clamps over the > > u-joint caps ? (they weren't too tight to begin with) > > > > Please pass along any experiences.. > > > > - Landon > > '89 GW ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:09:45 -0700 From: "Karl-at-Nookit.com" Subject: fsj: Re: whoa, that looks nice! I'm also building a page with thumbnails and corresponding picture pages out on my server, just so I can keep track of all the images in one place. I had to blow the dust off some of my old web development books, but I'm even going to make it backward compatible enough to work on all those hokey, anti-Microsoft (long live the Borg! I mean, Microsoft!) browsers out there....I'll shoot the URL over to you all when it's done as well! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: Cc: <1FSJ-at-egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:57 PM Subject: fsj: whoa, that looks nice! > I took today off to work on Superdawg, but instead I'm sitting > upstairs with my wife who came down with some sort of bug... :( > I'm reading my "Learning Perl" book in prepartion for my NY trip > next week and just came down to check email... > > Karl was over last night looking at his soon to be 77 Wagoneer, so > I guess he figured out how to get on the list... Welcome Karl, > it was pleasure meeting you last night along with Dave, who is > soon to be an FSJ owner as well... (75, right? ) > > I wonder what these colors would be in real life? > > dalmation? fire engine red? paisley ties??? y'all are outta control. :) > > I'm gonna put 'em all on one page so I can view 'em. > > Using NON-microsoft tools, I've created: > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/SuperDawg/Colors/ :) > > john > ------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > "The truth which makes men free is for the most part > the truth which men prefer not to hear." > ---Herbert Sebastian Agar > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > jesus, don't leave life without him, please! > ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:01:27 -0700 From: Paul & Megan Kershner Subject: Re: fsj: whoa, that looks nice! Is Karl the guy that won the '77 Wag auction? I particularly liked the Dawgsilver color myself! Look who's talkin' outta control - the guy that takes pictures of everything and anything (its a good thing, too!). Engines, Jeeps, people driving down the road, taking pictures while driving down the road... Sitting -at- home (working) too, cuz my 9 month old daughter has a bug, too. pk john wrote: > I took today off to work on Superdawg, but instead I'm sitting > upstairs with my wife who came down with some sort of bug... :( > I'm reading my "Learning Perl" book in prepartion for my NY trip > next week and just came down to check email... > > Karl was over last night looking at his soon to be 77 Wagoneer, so > I guess he figured out how to get on the list... Welcome Karl, > it was pleasure meeting you last night along with Dave, who is > soon to be an FSJ owner as well... (75, right? ) > > I wonder what these colors would be in real life? > > dalmation? fire engine red? paisley ties??? y'all are outta control. :) > > I'm gonna put 'em all on one page so I can view 'em. > > Using NON-microsoft tools, I've created: > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/SuperDawg/Colors/ :) > > john > ------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > "The truth which makes men free is for the most part > the truth which men prefer not to hear." > ---Herbert Sebastian Agar > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > jesus, don't leave life without him, please! > ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:13:50 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: whoa, that looks nice! while you're loading your microsoft tools, the page was already built using standard HTML and the vi editor in a Linux shell... ;) long live open source... john At 03:09 PM 10/11/00 -0700, Karl-at-Nookit.com wrote: >I'm also building a page with thumbnails and corresponding picture pages out >on my server, just so I can keep track of all the images in one place. I >had to blow the dust off some of my old web development books, but I'm even >going to make it backward compatible enough to work on all those hokey, >anti-Microsoft (long live the Borg! I mean, Microsoft!) browsers out >there....I'll shoot the URL over to you all when it's done as well! > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "john" >To: >Cc: <1FSJ-at-egroups.com> >Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:57 PM >Subject: fsj: whoa, that looks nice! > > > > I took today off to work on Superdawg, but instead I'm sitting > > upstairs with my wife who came down with some sort of bug... :( > > I'm reading my "Learning Perl" book in prepartion for my NY trip > > next week and just came down to check email... > > > > Karl was over last night looking at his soon to be 77 Wagoneer, so > > I guess he figured out how to get on the list... Welcome Karl, > > it was pleasure meeting you last night along with Dave, who is > > soon to be an FSJ owner as well... (75, right? ) > > > > I wonder what these colors would be in real life? > > > > dalmation? fire engine red? paisley ties??? y'all are outta control. :) > > > > I'm gonna put 'em all on one page so I can view 'em. > > > > Using NON-microsoft tools, I've created: > > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/SuperDawg/Colors/ :) > > > > john > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > > "The truth which makes men free is for the most part > > the truth which men prefer not to hear." > > ---Herbert Sebastian Agar > > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > > jesus, don't leave life without him, please! > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > - ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ "The truth which makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." ---Herbert Sebastian Agar Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:20:16 -0700 From: "Karl-at-Nookit.com" Subject: fsj: Re: Re: whoa, that looks nice! hehe yeah, but one of your graphics is broke! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "Karl-at-Nookit.com" Cc: ; <1FSJ-at-egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 3:13 PM Subject: fsj: Re: whoa, that looks nice! > while you're loading your microsoft tools, the page > was already built using standard HTML and the vi editor > in a Linux shell... ;) > > long live open source... > > john > > At 03:09 PM 10/11/00 -0700, Karl-at-Nookit.com wrote: > >I'm also building a page with thumbnails and corresponding picture pages out > >on my server, just so I can keep track of all the images in one place. I > >had to blow the dust off some of my old web development books, but I'm even > >going to make it backward compatible enough to work on all those hokey, > >anti-Microsoft (long live the Borg! I mean, Microsoft!) browsers out > >there....I'll shoot the URL over to you all when it's done as well! > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "john" > >To: > >Cc: <1FSJ-at-egroups.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:57 PM > >Subject: fsj: whoa, that looks nice! > > > > > > > I took today off to work on Superdawg, but instead I'm sitting > > > upstairs with my wife who came down with some sort of bug... :( > > > I'm reading my "Learning Perl" book in prepartion for my NY trip > > > next week and just came down to check email... > > > > > > Karl was over last night looking at his soon to be 77 Wagoneer, so > > > I guess he figured out how to get on the list... Welcome Karl, > > > it was pleasure meeting you last night along with Dave, who is > > > soon to be an FSJ owner as well... (75, right? ) > > > > > > I wonder what these colors would be in real life? > > > > > > dalmation? fire engine red? paisley ties??? y'all are outta control. :) > > > > > > I'm gonna put 'em all on one page so I can view 'em. > > > > > > Using NON-microsoft tools, I've created: > > > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/SuperDawg/Colors/ :) > > > > > > john > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > > > "The truth which makes men free is for the most part > > > the truth which men prefer not to hear." > > > ---Herbert Sebastian Agar > > > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > > > jesus, don't leave life without him, please! > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > "The truth which makes men free is for the most part > the truth which men prefer not to hear." > ---Herbert Sebastian Agar > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > jesus, don't leave life without him, please! > ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:24:57 -0400 From: "Ray (lists)" Subject: Re: fsj: This is a FYI... 809 area code... beware! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul & Megan Kershner To: R.J. Baynum ; fsj Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 5:23 PM Subject: Re: fsj: This is a FYI... 809 area code... beware! > Its true. In fact if you check out the www.snopes.com website, they > explain everthing about this scam (Its not really like a 900 call, but > you are charged very high international call charges) and how they will > be expanding to the area codes 242, 246, 264, 268, 284, 345, 441, 473, > 664, 758, 767, 784, 787, 868, 869, 876 as well as 809. > > Just don't call back numbers you aren't familiar with! > > pk > > "R.J. Baynum" wrote: > > > I am passing this along as a FYI.. This is not a joke.. > > Thanks.. > > > > R.J. > > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~***~*~*~*~~* > > > > DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809 > > This one is being distributed all over the US. This > > is pretty scary- > > especially given the way they try to get you to > > call. Be sure you > > read this & pass it on to all your friends & family > > so they don't get > > scammed! > > * MAJOR SCAM > > * Don't Respond To Emails, Phone Calls, Or Web > > Pages > > * Which Tell you to Call An "809" Phone Number. > > This is a very > > important issue of Scam Busters! Because it > > alerts you to a scam > > that is spreading *extremely* quickly - can > > easily cost you $100 > > or more, and - is difficult to avoid unless you > > are aware of it. > > * This scam has also been identified by the > > National Fraud > > Information Center and is costing victims a lot > > of money. There > > are lots of different versions of this scam, but > > HERE'S HOW IT WORKS: > > * You will receive a message on your answering > > machine or your > > pager, which asks you to call a number beginning > > with area code > > 809. The reason you're asked to call varies; it > > can be to receive > > information about a family member who has been ill, > > to tell you > > someone has been arrested, died, to let you know > > you have won > > a wonderful prize, etc.. In each case, you're told > > to call the 809 > > number right away. > > Since there are so many new area codes these days, > > people > > unknowingly return these calls. > > * If you call from the US, you will apparently be > > charged $25 > > per-minute! > > * Or, you'll get a long recorded message. The > > point is, they will > > try to keep you on the phone as long as possible to > > increase the > > charges. > > * Unfortunately, when you get your phone bill, > > you'll often be > > charged more than $100.00. > > * WHY IT WORKS: > > * The 809 area code is located in the British > > Virgin Islands (the > > Bahamas). The 809 area code can be used as a > > "pay-per-call" number, > > similar to 900 numbers in the US. Since 809 is > > not in the US, it is > > not > > covered by U.S. regulations of 900 numbers, which > > require that you > > be notified and warned of charges and rates > > involved when you call > > a "pay-per-call" number. There is also no > > requirement that the > > company provide a time period during which you may > > terminate the > > call without being charged. Further, whereas many > > U.S. phones have > > 900 number blocking to avoid these kinds of > > charges, 900 number > > blocking will not prevent calls to the 809 area > > code. > > * We recommend that no matter how you get the > > message, if you > > are asked to call a number with an 809 area code > > that you don't > > recognize, investigate further and/or disregard the > > message. Be > > wary of email or calls asking you to call an 809 > > area code number. > > It's important to prevent becoming a victim of this > > scam, since > > trying to fight the charges afterwards can become a > > real nightmare. > > That's because you did actually make the call. If > > you complain, > > both our local phone company and your long distance > > carrier will > > not want to get involved and will most likely tell > > you that they are > > simply providing the billing for the foreign > > company. You'll end > > up dealing with a foreign company that argues they > > have done > > nothing wrong. > > * Please forward this entire message to your > > friends, family and > > colleagues to help them become aware of this scam > > so they don't > > get ripped off. ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1062 **************************