From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Wed May 1 11:40:56 2002 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, May 1 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1634 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: frankenstein or igor? fsj: Re: looking for an XJ, WJ for sale Re: fsj: frankenstein or igor? fsj: alarms/remote starters fsj: Re: J3000 fsj: Serious about more power? fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list fsj: Re: frankenstein or igor? fsj: RE: Re: frankenstein or igor? fsj: New to the list fsj: 63 wagoneer progress FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:08:33 -0700 From: john meister Subject: Re: fsj: frankenstein or igor? On 4/30/02 11:31 AM, "Kevin Pekarek" wrote: > On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 11:10:23AM -0700, john meister wrote: >> You know that's exactly what I was thinking of calling it.. >> either that or Igor. :) > > Heh. That's what the guys at the place I used to work called the pacer. > Actually, they called it frankenpacer. One of these days, I'll get it lit off. > Note to self, don't buy someone else's defunct project from a junkyard :) :) A Pacer would be a good body... :) >> Trying to decide what body to put on top of the Wagoneer chassis... >> saw a 4x4 AMC Gremlin this morning... seen pinto's, mercedes 115's... >> not sure I want to use the '75 J10 cab on it or not... > > There were factory 4x4 gremlins for a couple years, AMC called them the > eagle kammback. Same WB as a CJ-7, basically a short eagle with a gremlin > (spirit sedan, actually) body. The SX4 (spirit coupe) used the same WB. hmmm... > >> fwiw, the goal is economy/reliability... lighter weight is probably >> better... :) > Probably so. I'm still amused about you wanting to use an Onan for an engine, > having dealt with plenty in my experience as an RV'er. well, it's says Cummins on the valve cover... ;) > :) > K - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com often via PINE on Linux ** (prefer plain text emails please!) ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ...and remember, leaving life without Jesus just isn't recommended... - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:53:31 -0700 From: john meister Subject: fsj: Re: looking for an XJ, WJ for sale Not expecting significant fuel savings... expect 16 to 17 in town and about the same on the free way... but the difference between 12/13 and 16/17 in town adds up and affects the local range. Filling up every week is not fun. The highway range on the WJ is excellent, when you get 19.6mpg... :) This is about the best free way economy I've had in an SUV type rig, the only ones that were better were my Diesels ('83 GMC Jimmy and '85 Cherokee TurboDiesel). After all, if I'm only going to get 12 to 13 mpg I might as well drive a Full Size Jeep, Grand Wagoneer that's totally paid for and a lot easier to work on. :) There are other issues with the '99 WJ v8 that are slowly being uncovered... mine shows 47k on the clock, but probably has over 60k as it's a theft recovery. New things are uncovered on the WJ list from time to time and I'm hearing and feeling new "features"... Maybe I'm nervous about it, maybe I just prefer the XJ, not sure... but I'm thinking now, after I've fixed everything and it's working well, is a good time to move out of it. :) So far I've had the rear end fixed, redone the brakes, dealt with a windshield leak, had a coil go bad, replaced the power steering pump, the idler pulley, the fan clutch, the radiator (mechanic broke it while fixing the ps pump, he paid for it) and I'm still dealing with only one key and getting 12mpg in town. I did get 19.6 mpg on the highway which is better than my '88 xj did with the 4.0L. But that XJ had 4.10's a lift, bigger tires and over 200,000 miles too... ;) So my motivation for migration is: 1) getting into a simpler design (XJ, 4.0L) 2) getting slightly better mileage/range in town 3) better visibility 4) ease of driving in tight spaces 5) avoidance of other "design" issues like gerotor/qt things that might come up later... lots of electronics on this jewel too... :) 6) reduction in recurring fuel / maintenance costs 7) reduction in car payment/balance The WJ is a wonderful highway rig. The seats are the finest I've ever sat in. The power and handling is impressive. The mileage on the highway is wonderful. It's a sharp looking rig. If you're doing a lot of freeway driving it's highly recommended. If you can afford the fuel and don't mind the "bulky" feeling at low speeds, it's a nice rig. If I can't trade it or sell it, shoot, I'll keep it. :) The visibility isn't the best, low speed turning is labored and this particular one has a dark interior... just don't like it, I feel like I'm in a cave sometimes... and since we don't get much sunshine here it's important. :) I'm talking to a couple of lots that have some '99 XJs. I missed out on a Limited... :( We'll see... no rush... SWMABO??? (if it's explainable without offense, please do... ;) john On 4/30/02 12:01 PM, "Garrison St.Clair" wrote: > John, > If the XJ is going to be an I6, don't anticipate any significant improvement > in fuel economy. Its only about 3 MPG improvement over the WJ with V8 and > about 1 MPG improvement over the WJ with I6 assuming autotrans in both. In > a 2DR, 2WD XJ with the I6 and manual trans you'll start to make better > economy numbers - but you'll pay for it in complaints from SWMABO. > > Gunslinger n >> - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com often via PINE on Linux ** (prefer plain text emails please!) ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ...and remember, leaving life without Jesus just isn't recommended... - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:12:52 -0700 From: Kevin Pekarek Subject: Re: fsj: frankenstein or igor? On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 12:08:33PM -0700, john meister wrote: > :) A Pacer would be a good body... :) Yeah, mine's got a perkins marine four banger diesel with a turbo from a saab on it. Ford AOD for a tranny, stock pacer rear with 2.73 gears. Words cannot describe how weird this thing is. The upside is pacer wagons had big tanks, and this thing can go 85 without hitting the governor in OD. Should be a decent freeway machine - pacers always had TONS of front seat room. > >> Trying to decide what body to put on top of the Wagoneer chassis... > >> saw a 4x4 AMC Gremlin this morning... seen pinto's, mercedes 115's... > >> not sure I want to use the '75 J10 cab on it or not... > > > > There were factory 4x4 gremlins for a couple years, AMC called them the > > eagle kammback. Same WB as a CJ-7, basically a short eagle with a gremlin > > (spirit sedan, actually) body. The SX4 (spirit coupe) used the same WB. > > hmmm... Yup. Not too many of them around. Like I said, basically an eagle. IFS front, corp 15 rear, NP 119 case, either a four speed (SR4 most likely) or TF998 auto. Could be had with a 258 or an iron duke four (151). there used to be a www.kammback.com, but a google search should pop up a picature. Since it's a fulltime, don't plan on setting mileage records with it. If you convert it to part time, you could get 20, but still. > >> fwiw, the goal is economy/reliability... lighter weight is probably > >> better... :) > > Probably so. I'm still amused about you wanting to use an Onan for an engine, > > having dealt with plenty in my experience as an RV'er. > > well, it's says Cummins on the valve cover... ;) heh. STILL... :) K ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:23:58 -0700 From: john meister Subject: fsj: alarms/remote starters http://www.bestdarnparts.com/fmcombo.html http://www.bestdarnparts.com/rscombo.html I'm looking some different alarms/remote starters for superdawg... I've got a remote lock/unlock alarm system now, but the remote starter is a nice feature to have too... anyone familiar with these? john - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com often via PINE on Linux ** (prefer plain text emails please!) ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ...and remember, leaving life without Jesus just isn't recommended... - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:14:10 -0700 From: john meister Subject: fsj: Re: J3000 On 4/30/02 5:46 PM, "Darrell Ramey" wrote: > Fellow J3000 owner, > I have recently decided to bring my 67 J3000 back to life and wondered if you > have any connections for parts or recommended web sites. (I found your addy > on jeep-I.net) > Darrell cool. My son sold his '67 J3000 last year, but it still lives on over on the other side of the mountains. They are one of the coolest looking FSJ's ever made. The grill, the stance... the raw power... Does yours have the 327? You need to get on the FSJ list(s). There are a few on yahoogroups and there is the list I started on digest.net. The FSJparts list will be a good source for parts. I can't remember if I have links and such on my server any more or not. I need to redesign it again, it's gotten out of control. :) There is info, somewhere, on my server to get on the list... http://wagoneers.com/FSJ somewhere there... ;) whereabouts are you located? have you heard about the gathering in Ouray, CO in August we've been planning? ttyl, john - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com often via PINE on Linux ** (prefer plain text emails please!) ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ...and remember, leaving life without Jesus just isn't recommended... - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:11:19 -0700 From: "Jim B" Subject: fsj: Serious about more power? Check out http://www.extrudehone.com/ ($1200 for the heads and $300 for the intake!) http://www.virtualjeep.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 02:15:00 -0400 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 11/13/01; extensive revisions to 1.j, 1.k -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. 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You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw-at-digest.net or bmw-digest-at-digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:16:22 -0700 From: john meister Subject: fsj: Re: frankenstein or igor? I like '68 mustangs... not sure I can bring myself to using one like this though... :) cool pix though... another thought was to use an XJ... solves a number of problems... like how to mount a body to a frame for instance... ;) john On 4/30/02 10:59 PM, "JC Jones" wrote: > How about a late 60's Mustang? > http://www.jtruck.net/misc/4x4cars/index.html > JC :) > > -> -----Original Message----- > -> From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net > -> [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john meister > -> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:10 PM > -> To: John Meister > -> Subject: frankenstein or igor? - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com often via PINE on Linux ** (prefer plain text emails please!) ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ...and remember, leaving life without Jesus just isn't recommended... - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 01:03:52 -0600 From: "JC Jones" Subject: fsj: RE: Re: frankenstein or igor? Big bolts and big washers.. :) JC Jones http://www.jtruck.net http://www.wagoneer.net 1979 Jeep J-10 "Max" 1984 Grand Wagoneer "Eeyore" 1978 MB 300D "Fritz" 1986 Jeep XJ Cherokee "Junior" * * * * * =================== "They that can give up * * * * =================== essential liberty to * * * * * =================== obtain a little ============================= temporary safety ============================= deserve neither ============================= liberty nor safety." ============================= -Benjamin Franklin - -> -----Original Message----- - -> From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On - -> Behalf Of john meister - -> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:16 AM - -> To: jcjones-at-jtruck.net; FSJ; xj-digest-at-digest.net - -> Subject: fsj: Re: frankenstein or igor? - -> - -> - -> I like '68 mustangs... not sure I can bring myself to - -> using one like this though... :) - -> - -> cool pix though... another thought was to use an XJ... - -> solves a number - -> of problems... like how to mount a body to a frame for - -> instance... ;) - -> - -> john - -> - -> On 4/30/02 10:59 PM, "JC Jones" wrote: - -> > How about a late 60's Mustang? - -> > http://www.jtruck.net/misc/4x4cars/index.html - -> > JC :) - -> > - -> > -> -----Original Message----- - -> > -> From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net - -> > -> [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john meister - -> > -> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:10 PM - -> > -> To: John Meister - -> > -> Subject: frankenstein or igor? - -> - -> - - -> ------------------------------------------------------------- - -> ------------ - -> ** john-at-wagoneers.com often via PINE on Linux ** - -> (prefer plain text emails please!) - -> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** - -> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they - -> mold. ...and remember, leaving life without Jesus just - -> isn't recommended... - -> - - -> ------------------------------------------------------------- - -> ------------ - -> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 10:57:47 -0700 From: "Darrell Ramey" Subject: fsj: New to the list Just like to take the time to say howdy to the list. I'm not new to the world of 4X4s but am somewhat new to FSJs. I've had a 67 J3000 stored in my garage back in Kentucky for the past ten years and have decided to bring it back to life. I'm in the Army (18 + years) and am currently stationed in El Paso, TX. The junk yards here are full of old trucks but I can't swear as to just how many are Jeeps. I'll be making my rounds through the junk yards this weekend and am willing to do the legwork for those of you who are in need of body parts that aren't rusted out or whatever else is available down here. Darrell Ramey El Paso, TX 67 J3000 (Ethel) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 11:10:16 -0700 From: "Faith Jeff" Subject: fsj: 63 wagoneer progress hi all, i got some good progress on my 63 willys wagoneer project these last couple weekends... - - new custom springs are installed all the way around (8" lift over stock) - - newer axles front and rear, got disk brakes up front now, and spring-over. - - vac assist and big master cylinder (and a brake pedal) some major stuff left still to do are brake lines, drive shafts, and steering...and and and and. not sure about ouray for me... later, jeff This electronic message transmission, including any attachments, contains information from Prescription Solutions which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. 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