From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Oct 10 20:10:13 2002 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Friday, October 11 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1765 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: bushing / sleeve for TH400 on amc 360 fsj: Re: 1985, Grand Wagoneer fsj: For the Jeep owner that has everything... fsj: alternative fuel fsj: Re: FW: expensive lesson fsj: Re: Seat options for FSJ's fsj: Re: vacuum info fsj: NP229 plug fsj: Re: vacuum info fsj: Taxation run amok - where's the freedom? fsj: Re: alternative fuel fsj: HEAT! (was Re: Seat options for FSJ's) fsj: help on virus cleanup... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 19:01:58 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: bushing / sleeve for TH400 on amc 360 We're in the middle of trying to put a TH400/Qt into my son's '77 Cherokee. He had a T-18A (6.35:1 1st gear). We've got the correct flexplate and the bolts (thanx to Paul K), but we don't appear to have the sleeve or bushing. Talking with Curtis about it he wasn't sure it was necessary for the TH400, but would cause problems for the TF727 if it was there... So, does anyone have one of these mythical bushings, or details on it, or a picture maybe so we can make or fab one, if it's really needed... thanx, john & mark meister - ----------------------------------------------------------- http://www.WAGONEERS.com/SuperDawg '83 J10 Stepside http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/FSJ_filters.html Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 21:59:53 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: 1985, Grand Wagoneer 6 degrees... 258. :) john At 01:40 PM 10/8/2002 -0700, Josi De Lesn wrote: >Hello >Excuse the delay but been to busy, Thanks for your support, but yesterday i >found out it is not a 4.0 litter engine, but a 4.2, 258, still i will try >the degrees you told me. > >Tu hermano en Cristo >Josi > >Muchas Gracias >Y que el Seqor te Bendiga a tm y a los tuyos. >Amin, Amin, Amin > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "john" >To: "Josi De Lesn" >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:06 PM >Subject: Re: 1985, Grand Wagoneer > > > >the MR 253 (factory service manual) says 10 degrees BTDC +/-1 degree. > >At 04:00 PM 10/1/2002 -0700, Josi De Lesn wrote: > > i been trying to get the correct timing degrees, > > >john > >============================================================= > The just shall live by Faith... >Der Gerechte wird aus Glauben leben... >Mas El Justo vivira Por Fe... >Le Juste vivra par la foi... > > Habakkuk 2:4b, Romans 1:17, Galations 3:11, Hebrews 10:38 > >============================================================= > > Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, >the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 > > There is no other name... Acts 4:12 > >============================================================= > john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com > http://www.helpmewithbiblestudy.org/ > http://www.freegift.net/ - can you pass this test? >http://www.wagoneers.com/BIBLE >what about Islam? see: >http://www.persecution.com/news/index.cfm?action=article&NewsId=111 >============================================================= - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:28:42 -0700 From: "Paul and Megan Kershner" Subject: fsj: For the Jeep owner that has everything... New~Jeep Wagoneer: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2059016649#DESC Paul Kershner **************************************** **************************************** **************************************** **************************************** **************************************** **************************************** **************************************** **************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 11:18:27 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: fsj: alternative fuel More reason for John's love of Diesels... 'Frying Squad' Swoops on Drivers in Fuel Scam Oct 9, 7:41 am ET LONDON (Reuters) - A Welsh police team dubbed "the Frying Squad" has been formed to sniff out motorists who fuel their cars with cooking oil from fish and chip shops in a bid to avoid paying high government fuel taxes. Three Welsh motorists have already been caught and fined for using waste oil from restaurants selling Britain's favorite deep-fried dish, the Times newspaper reported Wednesday. "I have halved my motoring costs since I started running my Subaru on cooking oil," the paper quoted one of those stopped as saying. "The car runs just as well and even smells a lot better than diesel." The drivers were fined 500 pounds ($780) and warned that persistent offenders may face up to seven years in jail. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There are a lot of crazy people in this world, and I am only two or three of them. -- Bob Cope - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 09:28:50 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: FW: expensive lesson yep, we've found a bushing from a th400, actually from my old '77 Wagoneer, the guy blew the motor so he bought another driveline and we're getting the bushing for the TH400 out of it... thanx all for info... Hey, with the delays in the SuperDawg project we're looking at MORE upgrades... :) May have found a Dana 60 for the rear so we may go with 3/4T axles and keep the 1/2T springs for better ride, supplementing the springs with air bags so I can tow a large trailer... also looking at extending the cab back until the step on the bed, shortening the bed around 6 to 8 inches or so, keeping the wheelbase the same, but making the cab large enough to install WJ ('99 and up Grand Cherokee) heated leather seats, if I can find them... :) yee hawwww... The seats and the driveline are the best things about the WJ, just wish it had the same "panascopic vision" that the FSJ's have. :) SuperDawg is going to be comfortable, yet practical... :) john At 06:17 AM 10/9/2002 -0700, Paul and Megan Kershner wrote: >I found this, but didn't find the pics he had. Ask Jim for them, I know >he has them. > >Paul Kershner >From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of >James Blair >Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 1:56 AM >To: 1FSJ-at-egroups.com; fsj-at-digest.net >Subject: fsj: expensive lesson > >When you have your motor rebuilt, make sure the crank that goes in >either has the centering sleeve (TH400) or has none (TF727/999) or you >will lose your trans in no time! Someone just found that out the hard >way, several trans later. Learn from the mistakes! > >************************************* >JimBlair, Seattle,WA '84 J10 EFax:603-215-1688 >http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html >************************************** - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 09:55:42 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Seat options for FSJ's American seats generally are rather poor in the areas of lumbar or thorasic support. However, I am thoroughly impressed with the WJ leather (heated) seats in our '99 WJ(Grand Cherokee). We can sit for hours in them without pain... they're more comfortable then any other seat I've sat in... the problem is you'll pay through the nose for them... $1,000 was the last quote I heard. :( IF you find a set in tan or brown let me know, we may be extending the cab on SuperDawg so they'll fit. (one of the problems with J10/20's is the limited space in the cab, GW seats don't work well either... :( And if you are near my house be aware that my son and wife are far better shots then I, and I suspect that she'll wing you before you can get away with her seats... ;) She would have made expert in the Army if it hadn't been for the cold nightfire exercise.... if it hadn't been for the nightfire exercise I would have boloed. ;) Even with glasses I can't compete at the pistol range with her, and with a rifle... oh man... I should enter her and my son into the Olympics... :) john At 12:18 AM 10/9/2002 -0700, Jim B wrote: >A: Also newer WJ Jeeps have heated seats! (anyone near John M's house? ) > From: "Frank Donnelly" > <frankdo-at-txucom.net> >Subject: Re: Seat options for FSJ's > >Oldsmobile Aurora, Mercury Grand Marquee are a couple that come to mind. >I would walk through a couple bone yards and look for buttons on door panels >stating "seat heat" or whatever til I found seats that would fit and that >were the correct color. >Frank in Texa - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 10:15:10 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: vacuum info At 11:55 AM 10/9/2002 -0500, b wrote: >Fellow '81 FSJ Owner, >Good day. Everything down to the Alpine sounds similar to my Black Laredo >and I was wondering if you had any advice on how to acquire a correct >vacuum diagram for my Jeep. >thank you, >Bob T. >Dallas try: http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Engines/Vacuum/ http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Engines/Vacuum/360-V8-vaccum-diagram.JPG btw, sold Old Blue some time ago, have SuperDawg now... :) john - ----------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html '83 J10 stepside (SJ) - http://wagoneers.com/SuperDawg '87 Cherokee Pioneer (XJ) - http://wagoneers.com/XJ/rigs/johns-87 238K! '99 Grand Cherokee Ltd (WJ) - http://wagoneers.com/WJ '67 J-100 Panel (SJ) - http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/johns-67-Panel/ '77 Cherokee (SJ) - http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/marks-77-cherokee '76 Datsun 280Z - http://www.wagoneers.com/tmp/280Z/ (for sale) '67 Ford Fairlane - http://www.wagoneers.com/ebay/fairlane/ (for sale) '75 Jeep J10 - almost a trailer... '54 Chevy box... almost a trailer... (for sale) Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:23:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexander Wall Subject: fsj: NP229 plug Hi all, My NP229 t-case in Lucky ('84 Waggy) is leaking, apparently throught the rear shaft seal. It's not a major leak, but it is steady. First course of action is to make sure I keep the sucker full! IIRC - I can use good synthetic ATF in there, right? I took a caliper and measured the large, flat bolt that plugs the filler/check hole in the t-case, and it looks to be either 30mm or 1 3/16". Does anyone know exactly what size socket I should buy to deal with this? Secondly - how do I fix this leak? Is it possible to replace that seal without taking apart the entire t-case? That is so expensive, I think I would rather refill the t-case frequently. TIA, Alex Spokane, WA ===== Alexander Wall Spokane, WA ================================================================================= "Before you attempt to beat the odds, be sure you can survive the odds beating you!" - E.L. Kersten, Ph.D. ================================================================================= Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 10:37:43 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: vacuum info At 12:12 PM 10/9/2002 -0500, b wrote: >www.wagoneers.com, well God Bless you. >Thanks a million, >Bob no problem... :) thanx, glad it helped... john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/Filter_INFORMATION/air_filter-1.jpg http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/Filter_INFORMATION/air_filter-2.jpg SJ Jeeps: 360/401: TS-23 258: TS-12 retail $21.50 XJ Jeeps: 4.0L/2.5L('87 and up): TS-29 retail $29.95 WJ Jeeps: 4.7L: TS-104 retail $47.50 DieselBenz: typical S1118 or S1680 retail $32.50 or $39.85 http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/ order 1-800-956-5695 cust# 283461 Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 11:56:58 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Taxation run amok - where's the freedom? Amazing... even if it helps the environment, they want to tax it... :) john http://my.netscape.com/corewidgets/news/story.psp?cat=50900&id=200210090741000215926 Wednesday, Oct. 9, 2002 'Frying Squad' Swoops on Drivers in Fuel Scam LONDON (Reuters) - A Welsh police team dubbed "the Frying Squad" has been formed to sniff out motorists who fuel their cars with cooking oil from fish and chip shops in a bid to avoid paying high government fuel taxes. Three Welsh motorists have already been caught and fined for using waste oil from restaurants selling Britain's favorite deep-fried dish, the Times newspaper reported Wednesday. "I have halved my motoring costs since I started running my Subaru on cooking oil," the paper quoted one of those stopped as saying. "The car runs just as well and even smells a lot better than diesel." The drivers were fined 500 pounds ($780) and warned that persistent offenders may face up to seven years in jail. ======================================================================== - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/Filter_INFORMATION/air_filter-1.jpg http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/Filter_INFORMATION/air_filter-2.jpg SJ Jeeps: 360/401: TS-23 258: TS-12 retail $21.50 XJ Jeeps: 4.0L/2.5L('87 and up): TS-29 retail $29.95 WJ Jeeps: 4.7L: TS-104 retail $47.50 DieselBenz: typical S1118 or S1680 retail $32.50 or $39.85 http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL/ order 1-800-956-5695 cust# 283461 Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 18:31:56 -0500 From: "Vince Orr" Subject: fsj: Re: alternative fuel Just shows that the British Empire may not be run by a monarch but it is still oppressive.......they need to throw the tea, or perhaps the Parliment, into the harbor...... I hear they mixed the oil with methanol. - --Vince - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Black" To: "Full Size Jeeps" Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:18 AM Subject: fsj: alternative fuel More reason for John's love of Diesels... 'Frying Squad' Swoops on Drivers in Fuel Scam Oct 9, 7:41 am ET LONDON (Reuters) - A Welsh police team dubbed "the Frying Squad" has been formed to sniff out motorists who fuel their cars with cooking oil from fish and chip shops in a bid to avoid paying high government fuel taxes. Three Welsh motorists have already been caught and fined for using waste oil from restaurants selling Britain's favorite deep-fried dish, the Times newspaper reported Wednesday. "I have halved my motoring costs since I started running my Subaru on cooking oil," the paper quoted one of those stopped as saying. "The car runs just as well and even smells a lot better than diesel." The drivers were fined 500 pounds ($780) and warned that persistent offenders may face up to seven years in jail. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- There are a lot of crazy people in this world, and I am only two or three of them. - -- Bob Cope - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 19:06:21 -0700 From: "Jim B" Subject: fsj: HEAT! (was Re: Seat options for FSJ's) A: Pull the hoses and backflush the heater after making sure the shut off valve works(gently so it doesn't become an exploding accordian! I use a hose with a shot of air both ways, but no more than 15 lbs pressure) Before you do that though, see if you can switch from defrost to floor with the fan on. If not, then you have no vacuum getting to the flapper that lets the warm air in. (from the black reservoir ball above the motor in mine) I found a crack in my MJ vac ball and just bypassed it (I switch from floor to defrost on hills by stomping the gas!) And this little trick for those with pre-combined AC/Heat controls. If you suffer from frozen toes and clear window or hot toes and frozen glass, but can't get a good blend, take the 3 hoses off the back of your selector switch and join them together with a vacuum tee! I left Elmo like that all winter, and it was so nice to have heat AND defog at the same time (especially at 80 mph at 2AM between places) From: Obi-Wan Subject: Re: Seat options for FSJ's I refilled it myself with a 50:50 mix of fresh Prestone low-tox (propylene glycol) antifreeze just a couple months ago. No leaks. It had been sitting dormant for a couple years, so who knows what happened to the heater core during that time. The engine doesn't run hot, so I know there are no restrictions in the coolant flow passages. I don't remember how well the heater used to work during the one winter before I yanked the engine, unfortunately. How can I test the status of the heater core? - -- Obi-Wan '95.5 YJ, '77 Wag ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:25:18 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: help on virus cleanup... If anyone needs help cleaning up the bugbear email me off list at john-at-wagoneers.com ore examine my sig file. I've got the data and will put it on my server. One of my users got it on his pc at work today and we had to clean it... My UNIX systems don't have these problems... of course this is the same user that crashed my Sun server a couple years ago when he downloaded internet explorer and tried to configure it on his Solaris workstation... :) Couldn't believe it... for a user to crash a UNIX system without root privileges is amazing, only with a Microsoft product... :) john - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com for PC virus help see: http://www.wagoneers.com/UNIX/Microsoft-related PC viruses??? see http://www.mcafee.com/anti-virus/ free virus protection that works: http://antivirus.cai.com/ virus myths and hoaxes: http://www.vmyths.com/ and also: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html see snopes also: http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/virus/virus.htm UNIX rules the internet and engineering computing - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1765 **************************