From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat May 17 14:45:53 2003 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, May 14 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1928 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: FSJ parts/auction/used FSJ site? fsj: Re: [FSJparts] Re: FSJ parts/auction/used FSJ site? Re: fsj: Re: [FSJparts] Re: FSJ parts/auction/used FSJ site? fsj: Fwd: AMC heads (answer from Edelbrock.com ) fsj: Re: xj: Re: Fram Oil filters fsj: eBayersThatSuck.com fsj: just sold the '99 WJ fsj: fwd: Whole bunch of FC-150's in Wisconsin fsj: Re: just sold the '99 WJ FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 23:42:15 -0700 From: "Jim B" Subject: fsj: Re: FSJ parts/auction/used FSJ site? $5 to start would be okay, but there are lots of free sites like www.hoobly.com now that charge zero. I got zero response from autotrader (except the Buy & Sell where I post most of my parts for free) when I listed the '76 J20. Same with the Seattle Times and PI. I posted on Hoobly and got several hundred emails within days! There's also www.fsjworld.com (FSJ Magazine's online presence) From: john Subject: fsj: FSJ parts/auction/used FSJ site? I'm thinking of developing some tools for my webserver for people to sell their used FSJs, parts and maybe even create a small auction site for FSJ and maybe xj/wj and mercedes Diesel parts... Autotrader gets over $50 to list a rig... what would you all consider a reasonable price to post on wagoneers.com?? wagoneers.com comes up in the top ten on many seach engines for fsj related stuff... just looking at ways to create revenue from my server to help pay for my fsj addiction... :) john (please cc me as I'm in digest mode... john-at-wagoneers.com ( john-at-wagoneers.com ) Jim Blair, Seattle, WA '84 J10 Black Jack, '86 Comanche 4x4 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 01:00:17 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [FSJparts] Re: FSJ parts/auction/used FSJ site? the advantage would be that folks searching the internet would find wagoneers.com pretty easy and I'd offer pictures with the ads... $5 sounds like it would help defray some costs and help the seller too... a win-win situation if there was one. ;) working on some ideas... either need a job or a viable idea... both wouldn't be bad... ;) free is always preferred, but sometimes you get what you pay for... other times we pay too much for something... and get nothing... ;) john At 11:42 PM 5/12/2003 -0700, Jim B wrote: >$5 to start would be okay, but there are lots of free sites like >www.hoobly.com now that charge zero. I got zero response from autotrader >(except the Buy & Sell where I post most of my parts for free) when I >listed the '76 J20. Same with the Seattle Times and PI. I posted on Hoobly >and got several hundred emails within days! There's also www.fsjworld.com >(FSJ Magazine's online presence) > >From: john >Subject: fsj: FSJ parts/auction/used FSJ site? > >I'm thinking of developing some tools for my webserver >for people to sell their used FSJs, parts and maybe even >create a small auction site for FSJ and maybe xj/wj and >mercedes Diesel parts... > >Autotrader gets over $50 to list a rig... what would you all >consider a reasonable price to post on wagoneers.com?? > >wagoneers.com comes up in the top ten on many seach engines >for fsj related stuff... > >just looking at ways to create revenue from my server to help >pay for my fsj addiction... :) > >john (please cc me as I'm in digest mode... john-at-wagoneers.com > ( john-at-wagoneers.com ) > > >Jim Blair, Seattle, WA '84 J10 Black Jack, '86 Comanche 4x4 > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >------------------------ Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 06:08:16 EDT From: HouTexFrk-at-aol.com Subject: Re: fsj: Re: [FSJparts] Re: FSJ parts/auction/used FSJ site? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 09:47:30 -0700 From: "Jim B" Subject: fsj: Fwd: AMC heads (answer from Edelbrock.com ) Probably be out at the end of the year. Thank you. When replying, please quote this entire e-mail for reference and to help us help you better. - -----Original Message----- From: Jim B [mailto:carnuck-at-hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 12:26 AM To: edelbrock-at-edelbrock.com Subject: AMC heads Whatever happened to making Jeep 360 heads? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 11:40:16 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: xj: Re: Fram Oil filters Mike makes a good point... it's not really so much the quality of the filter or even the oil, but how well something is maintained. If you do an oil change every two thousand miles, keep a clean air filter, warm the car up completely and don't abuse it, even the cheapest oil that has the proper SAE ratings and weight ratings for the engine will work fine. The antidrainback feature in a filter does help on startup, and that's where a lot of wear occurs... I have seen engines where the oil brands I wouldn't recommend to my worst enemy were used, but the vehicle was meticulously serviced and the motor is nice and clean and holding up well... So, it really comes down to changing the dino oil and filters often... as for me and my vehicles I enjoy the ability to safely go a year with the amsoil synthetic and not worry about it. I just went 22,500 miles on one of my rigs and had the oil analyzed. The rating came back indicating that it was time to change it in part because the viscosity had increased (dirt in suspension). One of the problems was I had neglected to change the filter at the 6 month/12,000 mile interval, that certainly wasn't a good thing. :) I shudder to think if I'd gone that long with any dino oil... I usually don't go that long, I typically change my synthetic at least once a year and usually only see about 10,000 miles or so... :) Still, it's nice to know that I can go that long and not do damage. On my Diesels I usually only go about 8,000 miles, even though the synthetic under the right conditions can go to 15,000 miles. One thing I found interesting in Mike's note... that he's rarely had a vehicle body outlast the engine... where in the heck do you live? :) Don't want to go there... salt on the roads or just the climate??? I'll live with clouds and mold... and rust free vehicles. ;) john At 09:28 AM 5/13/2003 -0500, Mike wrote: >I first saw this article about a year ago, but never the quote from the >Fram guy (I don't know how much credibility I can put in him either). I >emailed the author regarding the HP series and no reply or update in these >regards. >I personally have never seen nor seen anything concrete saying that any >particular brand caused a premature death to an engine. I worked the >quick lube business on the store level for 10+ years (just shy of 1/4 >million oil changes) and the #1 cause for failure was lack of or improper >maintenance. The only oil filters that actually failed were a result of >faulty oil pumps pushing hundred of psi at startup. Product quality was >not an issue. Valvoline & Penzoil both used Champion Lab filters while >Quaker State used Fram. Kind of funny, as Penzoil owns both QS and >Purolater. GM had an issue with their first IFS full size trucks and >recommended Fram over their own AC-Delco filters. I have Champion Lab >filters on my Jeep and Oldsmobile, and Fram on my Suburban. The only >reason for the disparity is I got cases when I got the vehicles, and still >worked for QS when I got the Chevy. None of my vehicles have had a body >outlive the engine. > >Wix produced filters are easy to find, they make the NAPA line of filters. > >Mike > >john wrote: >: I have a cross reference guide, might be able to cross >: some of >: the filters the author mentions to wix and amsoil and >: hastings... >: >: john >: >: At 11:41 AM 5/12/2003 -0500, Black, Waylon wrote: >:: This is a good read on oil filters - great story. Author >:: was even threatened with legal action. >:: >:: http://minimopar.net/oilfilterstudy-mopar.html >:: >:: If you have trouble with the site, it is mirrored all >:: over the web. >:: >:: >http://www.frankhunt.com/FRANK/corvette/articles/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstu >:: dy.html >:: >:: Search google for : oil filter study Knize >:: WB >:: >:: -----Original Message----- >:: From: Jon Filina [mailto:jfilina-at-surfbest.net] >:: Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 6:24 PM >:: To: diesel-benz-at-digest.net >:: Subject: Re: Air filter recommendation? >:: >:: Paul wrote: >:: >::: Can someone help me separate the hype from the useful >::: information in selecting an air filter for my 240D? >::: What do y'all use in your Benz? Do I go the Fram or >::: Purolator route, or is there something to K&N's claims >::: to be the "best" (albeit fragile) filter available? >::: For what >::: its worth, there does not appear to be an Amsoil filter >::: for this application. >:: >:: I'm a bit late on this, but wanted to throw my 2 cents >:: in. >:: >:: I have been using Wix for several years. The local >:: parts store where I >:: get my Delo 400 oil carries this brand. My mechanic >:: tells me he used to use Wix because their filters (air, >:: fuel and oil) are just as good as >:: the OEM ones (Mann and Knecht). He went back to Mann >:: when the Wix >:: products became more expensive. >:: >:: When it comes to air filters, as others have mentioned, >:: it doesn't much matter. I have used Fram and Purolator >:: with no problems. The Wix brand >:: is just as good, if not better. >:: >:: But, oil filters are a different thing. I refuse to use >:: Fram. Their >:: spin on for my '81 Rabbit was junk. Purolator was >:: acceptable. My 240D, may she rest in peace...., >:: received Fram filters when I used the local quickee oil >:: change place. I didn't notice any problems with them, >:: but started using Wix filters when I got my Topsider and >:: started doing the >:: oil changes myself. That decision was based on my >:: irritation with the dorks at the lube center constantly >:: trying to remove the spin on fuel filter thinking it was >:: the oil filter.... >:: >:: My 300SD has received Wix filters since I got it, with >:: an occasional >:: Mann if I was able to get it from my mechanic. I have >:: had no problems >:: with their product. The combination of Chevron Delo400 >:: (15w40) and Wix filters has worked for me for 2 MB >:: diesels. In fact, I changed Bruno's >:: oil this last tuesday after, and I'm ashamed to admit >:: this, almost 7000 miles. The Wix filter appeared to be >:: still doing it's job (which I >:: don't think would have been the case with a Fram) and >:: the Delo400 had >:: not started to break down, based on hot oil pressure >:: readings (Shell Rotella broke down around 1500 miles...). >:: >:: When it comes to air filters, take your pick but stay >:: away from K&N. When it come to oil filters, you can do >:: far better than Fram. >:: >:: Jon >:: '84 300SD 158,000 mi. "Bruno" >: >: ------------------------------------------------------------------ >: http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ >: Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they >: mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, >: please! >: ------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 12:22:30 -0700 From: "Jim B" Subject: fsj: eBayersThatSuck.com http://www.ebayersthatsuck.com/main/index.php Jim Blair, Seattle, WA '84 J10 Black Jack, '86 Comanche 4x4 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 18:57:45 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: just sold the '99 WJ amazing how it works when the ad is actually in the magazine... ;) first person to contact us and come out and look at it... hopefully we'll be able to replace it in a year or so... soon as I get another full time job. :) in the meantime looks like the 190D and the '87 XJ are the fleet until SuperDawg is finished... :) once SuperDawg is done we'll probably sell the '87 XJ. john - ----------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html '83 J10 stepside (SJ) - http://wagoneers.com/SuperDawg '87 Cherokee Pioneer (XJ) - http://wagoneers.com/XJ/rigs/johns-87 238K! '99 Grand Cherokee Ltd (WJ) - http://wagoneers.com/WJ '67 J-100 Panel (SJ) - http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/johns-67-Panel/ '77 Cherokee (SJ) - almost gone... parted... '79 Cherokee (SJ) - http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/GoldenEagle/ '76 Datsun 280Z - SOLD '75 Jeep J10 - trailer... '54 Chevy box... almost a trailer... (on ebay) coming soon: 1985 Mercedes Benz 190D 2.2L Diesel http://www.wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/190D/ Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 23:35:34 -0700 From: "Jim B" Subject: fsj: fwd: Whole bunch of FC-150's in Wisconsin from the AMC-list - ------- start of forwarded message ------- From: Jeff Gross Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys Subject: Whole bunch of FC-150's in Wisconsin Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 14:59:54 -0500 Organization: Dirty Ernie - Rock & Blues Xref: news rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys:216477 I was at a boneyard in central Wisconsin on Saturday & spotted several FC-150's that were, for the most part, pretty complete. One of them looked so good in the engine compartment that I'd swear it was driven in there under it's own power. They're at Van's Salvage in Waupun. This place is over 40 acres of woods that have mostly cars & trucks from model A's to 60's muscle cars. I lost count of how many big-fin cars are there - I'd guess maybe in the 300 range. More flatheads & hemi's that you can shake a stick at. Very few newer than 1975 cars here, and you have to crawl through the woods to get at stuff, but the things you'll find in there are amazing. I got a big pile of stuff for my Willys Wagon and it cost me about $100. Happy hunting, - - Jeff G 67 Kaiser Jeepster Commando 58 Willys 4x4 Station Wagon Jim Blair, Seattle, WA '84 J10 Black Jack, '86 Comanche 4x4 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:40:36 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: just sold the '99 WJ At 11:55 AM 5/14/2003 -0700, Kevin Pekarek wrote: >as for the rest of it, well... we'll just leave it at I have *different* >taste in cars. As far as cool factor, I like them all... the pacer is by >far the most unique (and hopefully john was kidding about wanting to put >it on a >wagoneer chassis to make it a 4x4), but the buick sportwagon (think olds nope... would be really trick... especially with that perkin's Diesel... ;) john >vista cruiser with the moonroof over the back part) probably turns the most >heads :) > >K - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #1928 **************************