From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sun Mar 21 19:59:24 2004 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Sunday, March 21 2004 Volume 01 : Number 2119 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: cab-off Q Re: fsj: cab-off Q Re: fsj: cab-off Q Re: fsj: cab-off Q fsj: Disc Brake conversion in my J4000 FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 14:33:16 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: cab-off Q so, now that everything rear of the cab is taken care of, i've about convinced myself to take the cab off of the frame to facilitate further work. can anyone tell me if i haven't thought of everything to make it happen: - - disconnect brake lines at frame/prop valve - - disconnect fuel supply/return lines - - disconnect wiring harness & other elevtricals - - radiator lines - - remove steering shaft - - disconnect throttle cable - - disconnect tranny linkage and fluid cooling lines - - disconnect t-case linkage - - cab bolts anything else? any pointers on making this go smoothly? (yeah, right) thanks, all!!!!! Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:25:56 -0800 (PST) From: elliott sydnam Subject: Re: fsj: cab-off Q If you are doing the removal the armstrong way: I jacked up one side of the cab and slid two 6x4s under the rocker as far as they would go, then managed to rock the far side until I had it all the way on the 6x4s and slid it off. Of course have another hand would make that part easier... or if you had something to support the 6x4s at the same height as your frame it would make it a lot easier to put back on. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 17:25:58 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: cab-off Q why not rig up a 4 place lift... if you have rafters attach four hooks or straps and lift it straight up with coffin hoists or come-a-longs, although the later aren't as safe... I've used simple tie down nylon straps through the windows of the back of my old GMC Jimmy top to lift it off in the carport... You could rig up one of those crossarm overhead framework gadgets and just lift it off... :) Or, slide 4x4's under and jack those up... or get Elliott to come over and help you carry the cab and put it in his horse trailer, that worked really well the last time I took a cab off. ;) john On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, elliott sydnam wrote: >-->If you are doing the removal the armstrong way: >-->I jacked up one side of the cab and slid two 6x4s >-->under the rocker as far as they would go, then managed >-->to rock the far side until I had it all the way on the >-->6x4s and slid it off. Of course have another hand >-->would make that part easier... or if you had something >-->to support the 6x4s at the same height as your frame >-->it would make it a lot easier to put back on. >--> >-->__________________________________ >-->Do you Yahoo!? >-->Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. >-->http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 01:22:12 -0500 From: Robert Brooks Subject: Re: fsj: cab-off Q Neal; I've done a couple of cab offs and quite a few body's off frames on cars. What I usually do is run a couple of nylon straps thru the doors and lift it off. Roll the chassis out from under it and then set it down on a 4 wheel dolly. I usually make up a wooden frame for the cab or body to sit on with wheels on it.. Best thing would be a rotisserie that would allow you to work on the bottom as well as the top Bob At 12:25 PM 3/20/04 -0800, elliott sydnam wrote: >If you are doing the removal the armstrong way: >I jacked up one side of the cab and slid two 6x4s >under the rocker as far as they would go, then managed >to rock the far side until I had it all the way on the >6x4s and slid it off. Of course have another hand >would make that part easier... or if you had something >to support the 6x4s at the same height as your frame >it would make it a lot easier to put back on. > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. >http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 11:12:10 -0800 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: fsj: Disc Brake conversion in my J4000 I don't have time to change my front axle yet, but I've shattered another pair of front drums by slamming on my brakes to avoid hitting a red light running idiot on cellphone. (naerly sent this one back to Allah) Rather than buy new drums, I've been looking into going to disc brakes. For a little background, my '73 J4000 has 5 on 5.5 pattern front closed knuckle Dana 44 (it was rebuilt a few years ago by the Supreme Court judge who used to own this rig) and 8 lug rear axle. I've already swapped the rear axle to a Dana 60 full float from a '76 J20 (unlike '74 to '91 FSJs, I can't just bolt in a Chev, Ford, or a later FSJ 4x4 front axle w/o seriously working on it because the spring perches are different) I just arranged for a used Gear Vendor's overdrive to put in. (I'm actually at the point of looking for a '74 - '79 J20/J30 frame to swap everything onto and save myself the hassle of front end conversion. I need the heavier rating as this will become a tow truck) Anyway, I already know about the master cyl, and differentiating valve. Now I just need the parts to do the brakes. The backing plate is held on with 6 bolts and may work with a Chev disc brake backing plate. The $600 CJ disc conversion kits are way out of my league, especially on an axle I want to change due to it's poor cornering capabilites with a longbed truck. ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2119 **************************