From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue May 4 22:48:00 2004 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, May 5 2004 Volume 01 : Number 2148 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list fsj: adventures in Manhattan fsj: the Maybach (only 305k!) and Cummins Turbo Diesel update fsj: out with the old FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 06:15:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. Persons who read the list via email are automatically members, but readers of the FTP archive are not, and need to contact me (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) and get your name added to the list of "permitted senders". b) has your email address changed? some of you have had changes in your email address. your old address still works, and is still on the list, but your From: line shows a new address. this can happen for various reasons; you may have changed jobs or ISPs, and left a forward in place, or your IT staff may have fiddled with the email system. you will need to unsubscribe your old email address and subscribe the new one. this may require my involvement, if you can't figure out a way to get your old address off the list using the conventional majordomo commands. you can use the majordomo "which" command to probe for old addresses. send a message to majordomo-at-digest.net with one or more which commands in the body, one per line. to check for potential addresses for Fred Flinstone, formerly of bedrock.org, the following commands can be sent: which flintstone which bedrock note that the matches above might return any of the following addresses, if they appear in the list (in other words, you can use vagueness and incompleteness in your recollection as a tool): Fred.Flinstone-at-bedrock.org fflinstone-at-wilma.bedrock.org flintstonef-at-bedrock.com c) do you have more than one email address? if so, only the subscribed addresses can post, unless you contact me (see 1.a) above for relevant information) d) are you using (intentionally or accidentially) special "features" of your mail client? [this section is no longer operative, as the demime software now strips html, attachments, rich text format, etc. from postings automatically.] e) are your posts too large? there is a 10,000 character limit on posting sizes; this is done for various reasons. you can always split up large postings to get mail through. f) are you including majordomo commands at the start of your message? administrivia control is turned on; this is a trap for things like "unsubscribe" at the start of a message. try to avoid obvious majordomo commands in the subject and the first 10 lines, or misspell them in obvious ways (e.g. unzubscribe, 1ndex, h3lp, g3t, etc.) g) are you triggering spam traps? some things are red flags; for example, many phrases found commonly in spam are automatically blocked. h) are you using "funky" character sets? [7 bit restriction lifted experimentally on 8/2/00 -- film at 11] unfortunately, there are "issues" if i permit any character set other than old fashioned 7 level ASCII; therefore, you need to avoid national character sets that include various accents, umlauts, national currency characters such as the British pound symbol, etc. i) are you unintentionally including complete digests in your reply? You need to check and make sure you cut down replys to the minimal size; digests are between 20,000 and 25,000 characters in length, and if you include a complete digest in your reply, it clearly won't make the 10,000 character limit. By the way, this feature is intentional. j) Are you using a "bad" ISP or mail relay? See http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html for more information about Digest.Net policies about email. k) Is the error message you get back "User Unknown"? If so, you may be running afoul of spam control severices (again, see http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html) When these services register a hit, the error code 550 is returned. 550 is a generic code that many broken mail systems report as "user unknown". The "rejectlog" entries for the previous day's mail traffic on digest.net may be viewed at http://www.digest.net/rejectlog.01 Some of you may find it useful or instructive to use the telnet program to connect directly to port 25 on krusty-motorsports.com and see what kind of reply you get; this requires some technical knowledge and is not for everyone (you can get out of this at anytime after the initial banner simply by typing quit and hitting enter.) l) Is SMTP over TLS involved? This is a bit esoteric, but as of 8/8/01 the digest.net mail server will attempt to use "TLS" (Transport Layer Security) for outbound mail if the destination mail server offers it. SMTP over TLS is fairly new technology, and a bit buggy. I am monitoring the logs on the server, and when I see TLS related problems, I manually place the problem destinations on a special exception list; however, this may delay email to the destination host until I make the exception. 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? a) are you using the right address? send to majordomo-at-digest.net, and the command format is unsubscribe list-name my-email-address b) has your email address changed? majordomo has no way of knowing that Fred.Flinstone-at-BarneyCo.com was once fflintstone-at-bedrock.org. you can check this with the which command (see 1.b) above for details) 3. How do I post to the list? You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw-at-digest.net or bmw-digest-at-digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 10:06:15 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: adventures in Manhattan >--> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 07:40:44 -0400 >--> From: "Don White" >-->Subject: Re: some history of the 4.0L >-->>john meister (remote from NYC, heading back to the >-->>PNW tomorrow afternoon... renting a car in the morning >-->>to experience Manhatten on four wheels... just walked >-->>most of it tonight... ;) >-->Hello John: >--> >-->I had the opportunity to do a little driving in Manhattan a few weeks >-->ago......... not smart. Since I was pulling a 16 foot flat bed trailer, it >-->really wasn't smart (grin). From what little of Manhattan I got to >-->experience, walking seemed like the best mode of travel. Good luck! >--> >-->Don I did get a picture of a WJ near Central Park... Saw a few XJ's, but no SJ's. I did stop at the Mercedes dealership on Park Ave to get info on the lastest Diesel. Sitting on the floor was a Maybach, quite the bargain at only $305,000, gets better mileage then an FSJ too... 12/17. ;) I was driving a little chevy malibu... and let me tell you, I think I could have made better time in some areas walking... ;) I figured out what the problem is though... it's not that traffic is all that bad in NYC, it's not really, in fact folks I talked to commute in LESS time then us folks in Seattle do. For instance, several talked of a 40 mile commute... takes 1 hr. I live 25 miles from Seattle... with no traffic it takes about 40 minutes, normal commute about an hour, easily up to 2 hrs if there is a fender bender, rain or sunshine. ;) My daughter only drives about 20 miles into North Seattle and that's here time of travel, add more time to go over the ship canal bridge and into downtown. Sure NYC/Manhattan is bottled up in the city, but there are several escape routes and they seem to move quickly. Once I decided that I'd had enough fun I exited stage left and cleared the traffic when I crossed the East River... Driving home from Seatac in the XJ I realized how much nicer driving in NYC would be in a Jeep with 3" of lift and 31's... or more of course... ;) Survived the drive, went to the top of the Empire State Building, enjoyed the visit, NYC, at least the high rent district, is a lot nicer then I expected... :) some pix at: http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2004/NY-trip-Apr/ Anybody have a nice WJ or XJ they are selling out here in the West? My son wants to buy our '87 XJ and I need to get my wife a nice clean Jeep. I suggested a couple of other options and all I could get was "Jeep". Ok, ok, I'm the one that got here hooked on these things... ;) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 21:39:41 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: the Maybach (only 305k!) and Cummins Turbo Diesel update >-->----- Original Message ----- >--> >-->> when in NYC I stopped at Mercedes of Manhattan to check >-->> on the new Diesel... they had a Maybach on the floor, >-->> took pictures... $305,000 was the sticker... 12/17 mpg... ;) >-->> (like you'd bother with that info... ;) >-->> >-->> john On Sat, 1 May 2004, Marc Zylka wrote: >-->Yep, not quite enough mpg for me. : - ) oh yeah... and the actual bottom line price of the Maybach is actually $311,000, forgot they added a few options... (the umbrella in the trunk lid???) Let's see, NYC sales tax is what? 9.0% or so... add $27,990 if it is... of course there might be other add-on's not shown... ;) I did talk to the salesman a bit. Mentioned I hadn't seen one in Seattle and wondered why Bill Gates didn't have one... the salesman said he was too cheap. ;) (Or maybe Bill knows the penguin is coming and is saving his money for an early retirement... ;) >-->Will you be posting the pics? Yep, here ya go: http://www.wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/CARS/MAYBACH/ the one of the window sticker is most interesting... :) http://www.wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/CARS/MAYBACH/maybach-window-sticker.jpg (other NYC pix at: http://www.wagoneers.com/fotos/2004/NY-trip-Apr/ (will post some Boeing ads in Time Square and night shots from the Empire state bldg later...) >-->Were you able to sit in it? (the Maybach) I probably could have, but I had my laptop strapped to my back, didn't even ask. :) I was happy they allowed me to open the doors... should have popped the hood, but I was in a hurry and happy I could touch it. ;) I did get a copy of the Diesel info, seems they can't sell them in NY or CA... the new Diesel is 45 state approved! What other states are so screwed up besides CA?? I didn't expect it of NY... CUMMINS TD ROAD TEST REPORT: Got to test drive the Dodge Cummins TD PU today... 70 miles up I-5 to a nursery, back roads home... Bottom line: A bus is easier to drive then this particular pickup... Ride was ok at first but my wife was getting ill from the bouncing on the freeway... The seat did not work for my back... Felt like I was driving a ship instead of a truck... For some reason I kept making comments about docking the Queen Mary... IT simply did NOT like turning... It LOVED going straight down the road, but off ramps it didn't care for... :) I can see why the front ends have problems, lot of weight up front, you can feel it... and also could feel that transmission suffering it's abuse from all that torque... The thing cruised just dandy on the freeway. My '91 300d is a lot faster, but then again my 300d couldn't begin to haul what that Cummins can. :) Nice view from up in that cab though... wife almost hurt herself getting out of it... just stepped out without looking or realizing how far terra firma really was... good thing she's tall or it could have been bad... :) she sure had a shocked look on her face as she shrunk a couple of feet in a fraction of a second... :) looks like my J10 project is going to be the ultimate solution as planned... I'm glad my neighbor let me give it a long test drive. Looks like we'll still keep the '91 300d for commuting and the wife will get a WJ soon as we can afford one..., or another XJ in the meantime. Our son is buying the '87 XJ. I wish my J10 was together already... would solve a lot of problems... been waiting three years for it, I know it's going to be excellent when done... :) If anyone has a nice used WJ or XJ out West let me know... We're kind of in the market between now and the end of June. Any where in WA, CA, AZ or NV would be fine... we'll be driving our '87 XJ down to Tucson and either flying back or driving back... Any WJ '99 and up... any XJ that's clean and has an AT. thanx. john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 00:09:17 -0500 From: Jeep Nut Subject: fsj: out with the old Getting ready to swap engines, and never having done one on a GrandWag.... Do I bring the engine out with the tranny? Better to separate? I need them both out anyway. Starting to disassemble the '87 Waggie... lovin' my impact wrench. (latest toolbox acquisition). No way I would have gotten the nuts off the exhaust manifold studs with a ratchet... and only broke one stud. Thanks! ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2148 **************************