From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Aug 11 22:10:02 2005 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Friday, August 12 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2489 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: off-topic search for a part... soft top for K5/K15 fsj: RE: veggie oil use fsj: RE: veggie oil use fsj: Suitable replacement for resistance wire to coil fsj: RE: Suitable replacement for resistance wire to coil fsj: Re: RE: Suitable replacement for resistance wire to coil fsj: Parting '93 Grand Cherokee (in Seattle) fsj: newbie lifting questions FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 13:46:18 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: off-topic search for a part... soft top for K5/K15 I'm looking for either a slide-in camper (Chalet) for my '83 GMC Jimmy, or a soft top/ tonneau cover. Found a few new, but their all in the $400-$500 range... There HAS to be a used one out there somewhere... I found one ad for a used Chalet, slide-in fiberglass shell for $100, emailed the guy... not sure it'll keep my overall height below 6'6" for the parking garage though... Found out that the back top weighs 300lbs!!! No wonder it was hard to get off the truck by myself, thought I was just tired from travelling. ;) I think a soft top setup would be better though, any one know of any around? http://www.trippnet.com/Soft_tops/blazer/ http://sf2000.registeredsite.com/~user853159/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SoftTops&Product_Code=TTDT1 http://www.offroaddesign.com/catalog/softtops.htm http://www.coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?s=a97d5fe8436122d0e4aeda4b2fe15eac&p=1273453#post1273453 http://www.4wheelcustoms.com/Products.asp?Cat=629 thanx, john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:55:37 -0700 From: Tesar Landon-r16884 Subject: fsj: RE: veggie oil use Hmm, what is the octane rating of veggie oil vs. diesel vs. unleaded? I would think unleaded is less...so at some point, the diesel would ping, esp if turbocharged... Rambling here... - - Landon - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:38 PM To: Kevin Cc: Allen Zylstra; full size jeep list; diesel-benz list Subject: fsj: veggie oil use I'm not having any trouble blending pump Diesel with my filtered waste veggie oil. I run about 5 gallons in my '91 300D every other tank. My Jimmy has a 31 gallon tank, I dumped 10 gallons in and am getting ready to just pump straight into the massive tank and top it off... Diesel prices are over $2.79 here... if it doesn't start, well... I'll just take another car. ;) My J10 has dual tanks, so I'll be doing the switching over at start/stop on it. Not sure I want to mess with a dual tank setup on the Jimmy. I'm also thinking that blending in a gallon or two of regular unleaded might help thin the fuel a bit and keep it flowing... john On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Kevin wrote: >-->> Is anyone here running vegetable with a conversion system. I am espicially >-->> interested in homebuilt conversions. >--> >-->Most people are blending. There was a dealer-installable second tank for >-->123 sedans which might make your efforts a little easier if you wanted to >-->run straight vegetable oil while starting on diesel. >-->K ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:07:16 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: RE: veggie oil use oil is measured by cetane rating. gasoline is measured by octane. gasoline is highly volatile, and thin/diluted. oil is thicker and not spark ignitable because it doesn't have the volatile element, there are fumes but not easily ignited. the energy content in the oils is higher because it's slower burning. the idea of the gasoline is to dilute the oil mixture and lower it's pour point as done in the winter time. running a diesel engine on pure gasoline would quickly overheat it and melt it down as the energy is released quicker than the heat energy can be transferred into useful forces, builds up in the cylinder and either overheats the engine or melts a hole in the piston... either way, it's not good. pinging would probably not be noticeable or an issue... of course the max ratio of gas to Diesel is about 1 gallon to 20 for cold weather. Anything more than that and you're asking for trouble. ;) john On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Tesar Landon-r16884 wrote: >-->Hmm, what is the octane rating of veggie oil vs. diesel vs. unleaded? I would think unleaded is less...so at some point, the diesel would ping, esp if turbocharged... Rambling here... >--> >-->- Landon >--> >-->-----Original Message----- >-->From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john >-->Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 3:38 PM >-->To: Kevin >-->Cc: Allen Zylstra; full size jeep list; diesel-benz list >-->Subject: fsj: veggie oil use >--> >--> >-->I'm not having any trouble blending pump Diesel with my filtered waste veggie oil. >--> >-->I run about 5 gallons in my '91 300D every other tank. My Jimmy has a 31 gallon >-->tank, I dumped 10 gallons in and am getting ready to just pump straight into >-->the massive tank and top it off... Diesel prices are over $2.79 here... if it >-->doesn't start, well... I'll just take another car. ;) >--> >-->My J10 has dual tanks, so I'll be doing the switching over at start/stop on it. >-->Not sure I want to mess with a dual tank setup on the Jimmy. I'm also thinking >-->that blending in a gallon or two of regular unleaded might help thin the fuel >-->a bit and keep it flowing... >--> >-->john >--> >-->On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Kevin wrote: >-->>-->> Is anyone here running vegetable with a conversion system. I am espicially >-->>-->> interested in homebuilt conversions. >-->>--> >-->>-->Most people are blending. There was a dealer-installable second tank for >-->>-->123 sedans which might make your efforts a little easier if you wanted to >-->>-->run straight vegetable oil while starting on diesel. >-->>-->K >--> >--> ---- >--> >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** >--> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >--> ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:08:32 -0500 From: "Michael & Carmen Keith" Subject: fsj: Suitable replacement for resistance wire to coil This is for an 87 Wrangler with a 4.2 that belongs to my brother-in-law. It uses a resistance wire to step down voltage to the coil. The truck has a no spark condition, & in the process of checking everything, I found that the coil is getting 11.8 volts; should be 5.5 to 7. Is this type of wire still available, and/or is there a suitable substitute? Could I instead run a conventional wire with a ballast resistor? Thanks, Michael Keith Houston, TX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:00:27 -0700 From: Tesar Landon-r16884 Subject: fsj: RE: Suitable replacement for resistance wire to coil Yes, I think that's a good approach. A Chrysler ballast resistor (from '77 Lebaron AMHIK)does a good job stepping down the voltage to the coil. - - Landon - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Michael & Carmen Keith Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:09 PM To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net Subject: fsj: Suitable replacement for resistance wire to coil This is for an 87 Wrangler with a 4.2 that belongs to my brother-in-law. It uses a resistance wire to step down voltage to the coil. The truck has a no spark condition, & in the process of checking everything, I found that the coil is getting 11.8 volts; should be 5.5 to 7. Is this type of wire still available, and/or is there a suitable substitute? Could I instead run a conventional wire with a ballast resistor? Thanks, Michael Keith Houston, TX ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 00:14:10 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: fsj: Re: RE: Suitable replacement for resistance wire to coil You can also get the coil with built in resistor. Yes, I think that's a good approach. A Chrysler ballast resistor (from '77 Lebaron AMHIK)does a good job stepping down the voltage to the coil. - - Landon - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Michael & Carmen Keith Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:09 PM To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net Subject: fsj: Suitable replacement for resistance wire to coil This is for an 87 Wrangler with a 4.2 that belongs to my brother-in-law. It uses a resistance wire to step down voltage to the coil. The truck has a no spark condition, & in the process of checking everything, I found that the coil is getting 11.8 volts; should be 5.5 to 7. Is this type of wire still available, and/or is there a suitable substitute? Could I instead run a conventional wire with a ballast resistor? Thanks, Michael Keith Houston, TX ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 01:38:49 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: fsj: Parting '93 Grand Cherokee (in Seattle) First, my wife and I found a nice little cabin, so I'm cleaning out all my excess stuff before we move. Posting LOTS of stuff here, plus I'll be going to the White Knuckle swapmeet in Enumclaw, WA Sept 5th. Figured I'd mention this here too: I have a 4.0L model that was tboned (passenger's side) that I am parting out. Some medium grey plastic interior bits were salvageable (all inner door panels except pass front door. FREE if you pick them up). Driver's seat is complete and functional, but has a double rip in the seat cushion $20. Passenger's seat was folded sideways like an accordion (luckily no-one was in that seat when the other vehicle hit it at high speed while being pursued by the police) but the motors underneath appear to be in working order (even the switch survived) if someone wants them. Glovebox door is off too (FREE). rear seat is sitting there too. This stuff needs to be gone ASAP (it's actually all sitting in the back of my Comanche waiting for a trip to the scrap yard) I'm selling the NV249 fulltime 4x4 transfercase ($150), Dana 35 with 3.54 ratio (I was told and I think I checked. $100 with drum brakes. It's rear coil, not leaf like XJ or MJ), radiator (still full of anti-freeze when my son drained it today. Found it didn't fit his '87 Cherokee, so it's for sale. $40), black rear hatch with all the goodies (inner panel is off, but it's there. $100), power window motors $10 each (passenger's door track was bent, but the motor looks okay), outside door handles $5 each (I know driver's door is still good. Unsure about the rest), I have the power mirror switch $5 (unsure if it works. found the fuse blown due to the pass door damage), driver's sideview mirror $20. Front D30 axle is still good, BUT one bracket is bent so I'll sell it for the CV axle's value if someone is interested. $50 U-Pull (Brake booster/master and calipers/brackets are going on my Comanche to improve my stopping while towing. My driveway at my new place in Index, WA is 6 miles long and gravel all the way with a mountain in the middle!), ABS computer and pump will be for sale as soon as I figure where it all can be bypassed in the wiring harness. Same with the steering column (with key!) $50 once I bypass it. Motor/trans are going into my '84 J10 (with a NV241 OR tcase and 4:1 low range designed for the '03 Rubicon by www.JBConversions.com ) along with the EFI (as I figure out the harness. I think it'snot starting right now because the alarm system has finally tripped. I just ordered the factory wiring diagram for the alarm setup so I can try to figure it out and by pass it for my '84 J10's install) I'll be needing one of the dash feedback panels and an old EFI computer so I can replace the cover on mine (it was busted in the accident, but it still ran afterwards till we hooked up my tow dolly. Then it ran like it was low on gas and quit. Now there is no spark so I assume it's the anti-theft system) Left rear tail light survived $50 (right was stolen before I got the Jeep), rear quarter panels are usable (you cut them off after I pull the fuel tank and they are yours, or I'll cut off the rear half at the back seat and you can have it once I'm done) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 00:04:24 -0500 From: JeepNut Subject: fsj: newbie lifting questions For any who have done it, looking for tips/tricks you've learned re: installations. Going to install a 6" kit from B.J.'s. (wish I lived in Index, WA shipping would SURELY be cheaper...) Keep in mind that this will be accomplished by me and my air tools alone,...MAYBE I can get my nearly 13 year old to put the computer parts down long enough to help...lol...he's actually a pretty fair helper. Can change oil, rotate tires, and the like with no problem...but he'd rather build computers, and rebuild, and rebuild... Thinking about how this might go and it seems to me like I'm gonna have to set the frame up on 4 jacks, drop the old stuff, ...then raise it up again to get the bigger springs under and add back the axles. Tires will stay stock for now until next commission check so I won't have to add the height of the 33"s to the mix. So I should need to raise it another 6" I guess, eh?... I don't think the jacks will go up another 6" after I've got them set high enough to get this thing off the ground as it is now. So thinking I might get some cement blocks and then set my jackstands (hd. 6ton ea) on some 2x8 pieces side by side on the blocks...so that I can get the height I need for stage 2 -adding the new higher arched springs, axles and wheels. I'll also have to set my floor-jack up on blocks I suppose or I'll run out of reach with it too... Thanks for any feedback! JeepNut - -- This mail subject to change without notice. Text is slightly enlarged to show detail. 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