From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Fri Oct 14 21:51:54 2005 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Saturday, October 15 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2523 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: [db] not sure if it was a Diesel Touareg or not... fsj: Re: Mercedes/jeep melding fsj: intake question... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:33:26 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] not sure if it was a Diesel Touareg or not... nonetheless, very cool. I think this is a great use of technology! It adds a whole new dimension to "cruise control". john On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Stephen Rigley wrote: >-->http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,78344,00.html?ESRC=dod.nl >--> >-->Steve >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:59:54 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Mercedes/jeep melding RE: Mercedes Diesel into an XJ (or SJ) the two, or three issues to resolve are: 1) engine mounts - not a big problem, the XJ (downsized cherokee from '87-01) have an easy to adapt frame setup, I haven't examined the benz mounts but suspect something could be welded on to sit "on" the frame rails in the XJ. 2) engine to transmission adapter - torque converter? adapter ring? starter? or 3) transmission to transfer case (preferred solution) - divorced setup with an intermediate shaft and braces/mounts for the xfr case, this is the approach I am considering. Wiring, climate control, cooling and such will be issues, but common to engine swaps and easily overcome. The other issue that will be encountered is the oil sump for the benz engines are in the front, this will interfere with the axle and the steering... if a rear sump could be found for the Diesel Benz engine this will solve the problem The same issues exist if one uses a Full Size Jeep. My current plan is to finish the '83 J10 stepside with the 6.2L Diesel, 700r4 and either an np208 or np219 setup. It's got dual tanks so I can use wvo if I figure out a fuel heater. I'm thinking of building out an XJ with a Mercedes 3.0L or 2.5L TD, but this is probably just a mental exercise and will never happen, in part because I'll have a nice J10 and also because the xj doesn't have an easily configurable dual tank capability. http://JohnMeister.com/FSJ/FSJ-charter.html http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/jeep-model-codes.html john meister On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Thorsen David wrote: >-->Hi John, >--> I sunscribe to the Diesel Benz list and I have a >-->question regarding swapping a Benz diesel engine into >-->a jeep XJ model. Is this what you have tried to do in >-->the past? I am not that familiar with the Jeep >-->designations so I don't know from the traffic on the >-->Benz diesel list chatter. >--> If one was to consider the swap, what things in >-->particular would be more difficult to overcome? I.E. >-->engine to trans interface, etc. >--> If this has been discussed already, then could you >-->please direct me to the information. >--> >-->Thanks, >-->Dave Thorsen >-->Seattle >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->__________________________________ >-->Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 >-->http://mail.yahoo.com >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:46:12 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: intake question... I asked this question before, but had it buried along with something else I guess... Trying to figure out if I want to get an intake manifold for my 6.2L Diesel that is wide open with one big opening, or a dual plane/split setup. On a gas engine the dual plane works well for developing low end torque and is desireable. On a Diesel I'm thinking that you want the largest opening possible to get as much air in as possible... thoughts? open: http://i9.ebayimg.com/04/i/05/03/ef/c0_1.JPG or split: http://i12.ebayimg.com/01/i/03/aa/8a/6f_1_b.JPG that is the question. :) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2523 **************************