From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sun Nov 20 21:33:48 2005 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, November 21 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2541 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: the ultimate trailer? RE: fsj: the ultimate trailer? RE: fsj: the ultimate trailer? RE: fsj: the ultimate trailer? fsj: Re: [db] the ultimate trailer? fsj: Re: 87 GW fsj: Re: [db] the ultimate trailer? fsj: Cleaning out my garage - again Re: fsj: Cleaning out my garage - again FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:14:12 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: the ultimate trailer? I was talking to a mechanic friend today and we started talking about trailers. We talked about the trailer I have right now, the '75 J10 box, fully bedlined top, bottom and sides... equipped with a full tool box, on board power and dual hydraulic cylinders... it works great... but it is a bit heavy... but it got me thinking... (this is not always a good thing as most of you know. ;) http://JohnMeister.com/FSJ/J10-trailer/ The current trailer tips the scales at 2,000lbs. Towing it with a 6.2L Diesel isn't a problem, but my wife refuses to let me put a hitch on her '99 WJ. :) I think I hurt the XJ towing the trailer too... putting a yard of gravel in it didn't seem to make the XJ any happier either... ;) Anyway, I'm thinking it would be nice to have a trailer capable of hauling a car or Jeep, gravel, dirt, lumber and so on, and be light enough to tow behind my '91 300D with it's little 2.5L Turbo Diesel, or the '48 Willys CJ2. ...not with gravel or a car on it though... just lumber, plants and light but bulky stuff... It would be nice to have a dump feature, but I think it could be done manually to reduce weight... In order to haul a car it probably will need to be a double axle trailer... if I used aluminum alloy channel to make the frame I could keep the weight down... I may take a trip down to the boeing surplus store and see what kind of structural aluminum they have... I've got some other ideas related to making the trailer shorter or longer depending on what I need to haul... If I pin the frame I could make it narrower as well... I think the first step is to get my carport built... then find someone interested in buying the J10 trailer... I think I'll also look at buying a commercial car trailer, lots of them around... (interested, let me know... my 6.2L Diesel Jimmy goes away in December and I won't have anything to pull it with until SuperDawg is done anyway... so finding it a new home won't put me out...) I've made expandable setups before, used tractor/farm implement hardware to move it around, but used steel pipe... too heavy... need to get some nice aircraft grade stuff... ;) that is if they still have stuff like that down there... ended up swapping belts on a pontiac today... :( john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:31:20 -0800 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: RE: fsj: the ultimate trailer? You really need to start watching the http://snort4x4.com/forum For Sale section! (good for Northwest stuff only pretty much) build your truck right the first time! I was talking to a mechanic friend today and we started talking about trailers. We talked about the trailer I have right now, the '75 J10 box, fully bedlined top, bottom and sides... equipped with a full tool box, on board power and dual hydraulic cylinders... it works great... but it is a bit heavy... but it got me thinking... (this is not always a good thing as most of you know. ;) http://JohnMeister.com/FSJ/J10-trailer/ The current trailer tips the scales at 2,000lbs. Towing it with a 6.2L Diesel isn't a problem, but my wife refuses to let me put a hitch on her '99 WJ. :) I think I hurt the XJ towing the trailer too... putting a yard of gravel in it didn't seem to make the XJ any happier either... ;) Anyway, I'm thinking it would be nice to have a trailer capable of hauling a car or Jeep, gravel, dirt, lumber and so on, and be light enough to tow behind my '91 300D with it's little 2.5L Turbo Diesel, or the '48 Willys CJ2. ...not with gravel or a car on it though... just lumber, plants and light but bulky stuff... It would be nice to have a dump feature, but I think it could be done manually to reduce weight... In order to haul a car it probably will need to be a double axle trailer... if I used aluminum alloy channel to make the frame I could keep the weight down... I may take a trip down to the boeing surplus store and see what kind of structural aluminum they have... I've got some other ideas related to making the trailer shorter or longer depending on what I need to haul... If I pin the frame I could make it narrower as well... I think the first step is to get my carport built... then find someone interested in buying the J10 trailer... I think I'll also look at buying a commercial car trailer, lots of them around... (interested, let me know... my 6.2L Diesel Jimmy goes away in December and I won't have anything to pull it with until SuperDawg is done anyway... so finding it a new home won't put me out...) I've made expandable setups before, used tractor/farm implement hardware to move it around, but used steel pipe... too heavy... need to get some nice aircraft grade stuff... ;) that is if they still have stuff like that down there... ended up swapping belts on a pontiac today... :( john ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:44:48 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: the ultimate trailer? On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, Jim Blair wrote: > -->You really need to start watching the http://snort4x4.com/forum For Sale > -->section! (good for Northwest stuff only pretty much) I'll leave that to you... ;) just let me know when you see something good. :) john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 22:01:07 -0800 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: RE: fsj: the ultimate trailer? Only way I know is if you say you are looking for something! build your truck right the first time! On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, Jim Blair wrote: >-->You really need to start watching the http://snort4x4.com/forum For Sale >-->section! (good for Northwest stuff only pretty much) I'll leave that to you... ;) just let me know when you see something good. :) john ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 13:52:24 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] the ultimate trailer? On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Jerry Kaidor wrote: >-->>could be done >-->> manually >-->> to reduce weight... In order to haul a car it probably will need to be >-->> a double axle trailer... if I used aluminum alloy channel to make the >-->> frame I could >-->> keep the weight down... >-->> >-->*** The trouble with that is that the stronger the alloy, the higher the >-->heat treat, the more prone it is to corrosion. And I'm told your area can >-->be a bit soggy. yes, damp, but rust and corrosion isn't typically a big problem. >--> Reminds me of the time I was messing with my airplane, and put a >-->screwdriver right through the door post. Which was made of 2024T6 >-->aluminum, which had rotted out from the inside. Which led to a LARGE >-->project, eating up about a month of my spare time. A patch of >-->aluminum >-->about the size of my fist had turned into flaky cardboard. scarey thought... I wish you hadn't told me this... ;) john >--> >--> It CAN be protected.... I would recommend epoxy zinc chromate primer >-->topcoated with Imron. Aren't Hummvee chassis aluminum? >--> >--> - Jerry Kaidor ( jerry-at-tr2.com ) >--> >--> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 13:58:03 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: 87 GW you are going to keep those running boards, right? (just not on any FSJ that you send north please... ;) john http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/87-gw-curtis/ On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Curtis wrote: > -->Hi John, > --> > -->Here is a teaser of my new 87'. I will sent you more later after it is > -->washed. > -->Enjoy > -->Curtis > -->Ps. As usual lately, not resized or labeled yet. yeah, you need bome's image resizer: http://www.bome.com/tools/resizer/ john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:29:03 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] the ultimate trailer? On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Edward Pomeroy wrote: > -->Yep, the original HUMVEE/HUMMER chassis below the beltline is all aircraft > -->grade aluminum and it is treated with a process that leaves it gold in > -->color, I forget the name, will have to take another look when I go to the > -->factory, keeps the corrosion away for a long time, especially after primer > -->and CARC paint are added on top of it. The oldest HUMVEE's in the fleet were > -->fielded in 1995 and are still in use :-) way back in 1995, eh? ;) my goodness, that's a long time ago... :) I wonder what they used on my '48 Willys? ;) john > --> > -->Edward > --> > -->Jerry Kaidor wrote: > --> > -->> > could be done > -->> > manually > -->> > to reduce weight... In order to haul a car it probably will need > -->> > to be > -->> > a double axle trailer... if I used aluminum alloy channel to make > -->> > the > -->> > frame I could > -->> > keep the weight down... > -->> > > -->> > > -->> > > -->> *** The trouble with that is that the stronger the alloy, the higher the > -->> heat treat, the more prone it is to corrosion. And I'm told your area > -->> can > -->> be a bit soggy. > -->> > -->> Reminds me of the time I was messing with my airplane, and put a > -->> screwdriver right through the door post. Which was made of 2024T6 > -->> aluminum, which had rotted out from the inside. Which led to a LARGE > -->> project, eating up about a month of my spare time. A patch of > -->> aluminum > -->> about the size of my fist had turned into flaky cardboard. > -->> > -->> It CAN be protected.... I would recommend epoxy zinc chromate primer > -->> topcoated with Imron. Aren't Hummvee chassis aluminum? > -->> > -->> - Jerry Kaidor ( jerry-at-tr2.com ) > -->> > -->> > -->> > -->> > -->> > --> > --> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:24:28 EST From: Brazzadog-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Cleaning out my garage - again _http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZjoatmon1_ (http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZjoatmon1) (http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZjoatmon1) Ben ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:29:45 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Cleaning out my garage - again On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 Brazzadog-at-aol.com wrote: >-->_http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZjoatmon1_ >-->(http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZjoatmon1) (http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZjoatmon1) >-->Ben Ben, do you have any backup lights for a '60's vintage FSJ? My friend over in Europe needs a set... thanx, john meister ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2541 **************************