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Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:34:52 -0500
From: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
i was mainly curious if the seat rails themselves will fit nicely beside the
tranny hump. i know i'll have to cut off some of the stock ZJ bracketry and
fab up some floor mounts, but that doesn't bother me.
Neal A. Hoover
Project '76 J-10
Project '96 XJ
http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "michel balea" <mbalea-at-hotmail.com>
To: <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>; <fsj-at-digest.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
> I remember checking those ZJ, and the bracketry was not really matching
for
> the width
>
> wagoneer brackets are very narrow as they mount on the tranny hump ...
they
> not even symmetrical, you have a driver and a passenger hump . Celica was
> almost a match, as they ride very low to the ground, so you could fab
> intermediate brackets to compensate. But if you put too much bracketry
> between the OE mount and the replacement seat, you will hit the ceiling,
or
> not reach the pedals
>
> some have used civic seats
>
> this is why after spending too many hours to fit those neon seats on the
> wrangler... i bought some decent used wagoneer electrical.... and found
> pedestal to match..... remember that from the TH400 to TF727 the pedestal
> are supposedly different
>
> Michel
> 74 wag
>
>
> From: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
> Reply-To: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
> To: <fsj-at-digest.net>
> Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:42:40 -0500
>
> fwiw, i'm headed to the local bone yard to pilfer a couple of really nice
ZJ
> seats for my j-truck project that i've found. i know i'll have to do a
lot
> of fabbing to make my brackets, but does anyone know of general fitment
WRT
> the tranny hump, slide range, etc?
>
> Neal A. Hoover
> Project '76 J-10
> Project '96 XJ
> http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin" <kevin-at-mordred.punk.net>
> To: "michel balea" <mbalea-at-hotmail.com>; <fsj-at-digest.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 6:44 PM
> Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
>
>
> > My reading tells me that CJ/YJ/TJ/XJ/SJ can all use the same seats, as
> long
> > as you use the frames/mounts that came with the vehicle. One of the
more
> > interesting ones I've heard is eddie bauer explorer seats to get heated
> > seats, though it looks like there's some mods that need to be done to
> make
> > those work.
> >
> > My 83 cherokee is in need of an interior (amongst other things), so
once
> I
> > have the back window done, and the weatherstripping done, I'll be
> revisiting
> > seats. But, before I do that, I need to put an engine in the 89
cherokee.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:40:52PM +0000, michel balea wrote:
> > > seats are tricky.... because of the trany hump..... it cam be a
> challenge
> > > to fit the pedestal....and even if the base fit.... the length of the
> > > glide.... i bought a pair of neon seats.... but too wide for the
> > > wagoneer... they ended on the wrangler... w one issue... if you are
> 5'8"
> or
> > > shorter you will not touch the pedals... and for a stick shift....
that
> can
> > > be tricky....
> > >
> > > people claim success w escort to mustang seats (like 89 to 95ish)
being
> an
> > > almost direct bolt on. I never found a clean set of seat at the
> > > junkyard... so never tried that combo.... got some wagoneer w the
> leather
> > > disease.... slapped some leather piece over the gash, glued w
> barge....
> > > and sheepskin on top....
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a
month.
> Intro*Terms
>
https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:43:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Neal Hoover wrote:
>-->i was mainly curious if the seat rails themselves will fit nicely beside the
>-->tranny hump. i know i'll have to cut off some of the stock ZJ bracketry and
>-->fab up some floor mounts, but that doesn't bother me.
you're pretty much stuck with the seat base for whatever it's in, build up from there.
john
>-->
>-->Neal A. Hoover
>-->Project '76 J-10
>-->Project '96 XJ
>-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj
>-->
>-->
>-->----- Original Message -----
>-->From: "michel balea" <mbalea-at-hotmail.com>
>-->To: <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>; <fsj-at-digest.net>
>-->Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:05 PM
>-->Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
>-->
>-->
>-->> I remember checking those ZJ, and the bracketry was not really matching
>-->for
>-->> the width
>-->>
>-->> wagoneer brackets are very narrow as they mount on the tranny hump ...
>-->they
>-->> not even symmetrical, you have a driver and a passenger hump . Celica was
>-->> almost a match, as they ride very low to the ground, so you could fab
>-->> intermediate brackets to compensate. But if you put too much bracketry
>-->> between the OE mount and the replacement seat, you will hit the ceiling,
>-->or
>-->> not reach the pedals
>-->>
>-->> some have used civic seats
>-->>
>-->> this is why after spending too many hours to fit those neon seats on the
>-->> wrangler... i bought some decent used wagoneer electrical.... and found
>-->> pedestal to match..... remember that from the TH400 to TF727 the pedestal
>-->> are supposedly different
>-->>
>-->> Michel
>-->> 74 wag
>-->>
>-->>
>-->> From: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
>-->> Reply-To: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
>-->> To: <fsj-at-digest.net>
>-->> Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
>-->> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:42:40 -0500
>-->>
>-->> fwiw, i'm headed to the local bone yard to pilfer a couple of really nice
>-->ZJ
>-->> seats for my j-truck project that i've found. i know i'll have to do a
>-->lot
>-->> of fabbing to make my brackets, but does anyone know of general fitment
>-->WRT
>-->> the tranny hump, slide range, etc?
>-->>
>-->> Neal A. Hoover
>-->> Project '76 J-10
>-->> Project '96 XJ
>-->> http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj
>-->>
>-->>
>-->> ----- Original Message -----
>-->> From: "Kevin" <kevin-at-mordred.punk.net>
>-->> To: "michel balea" <mbalea-at-hotmail.com>; <fsj-at-digest.net>
>-->> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 6:44 PM
>-->> Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
>-->>
>-->>
>-->> > My reading tells me that CJ/YJ/TJ/XJ/SJ can all use the same seats, as
>-->> long
>-->> > as you use the frames/mounts that came with the vehicle. One of the
>-->more
>-->> > interesting ones I've heard is eddie bauer explorer seats to get heated
>-->> > seats, though it looks like there's some mods that need to be done to
>-->> make
>-->> > those work.
>-->> >
>-->> > My 83 cherokee is in need of an interior (amongst other things), so
>-->once
>-->> I
>-->> > have the back window done, and the weatherstripping done, I'll be
>-->> revisiting
>-->> > seats. But, before I do that, I need to put an engine in the 89
>-->cherokee.
>-->> >
>-->> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:40:52PM +0000, michel balea wrote:
>-->> > > seats are tricky.... because of the trany hump..... it cam be a
>-->> challenge
>-->> > > to fit the pedestal....and even if the base fit.... the length of the
>-->> > > glide.... i bought a pair of neon seats.... but too wide for the
>-->> > > wagoneer... they ended on the wrangler... w one issue... if you are
>-->> 5'8"
>-->> or
>-->> > > shorter you will not touch the pedals... and for a stick shift....
>-->that
>-->> can
>-->> > > be tricky....
>-->> > >
>-->> > > people claim success w escort to mustang seats (like 89 to 95ish)
>-->being
>-->> an
>-->> > > almost direct bolt on. I never found a clean set of seat at the
>-->> > > junkyard... so never tried that combo.... got some wagoneer w the
>-->> leather
>-->> > > disease.... slapped some leather piece over the gash, glued w
>-->> barge....
>-->> > > and sheepskin on top....
>-->>
>-->> _________________________________________________________________
>-->> Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a
>-->month.
>-->> Intro*Terms
>-->>
>-->https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117
>-->
-----
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:09:28 -0500
From: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
AAAAAHH!!
i got that, john. :p
i'll be using the ZJ rails (bases), as they are power on both seats. the
stock ZJ brackets that actually bolt to the floor will have to be modified,
i'm sure. i was just mainly concerned if the ZJ electric seat rails will
fit beside the tranny hump, or if there will be interferance there. or
maybe i'll have to modify the tranny hump a bit to get the seat rails to
slide fully front to back.
(heh)
Neal A. Hoover
Project '76 J-10
Project '96 XJ
http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "john" <john-at-wagoneers.com>
To: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
Cc: <fsj-at-digest.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Neal Hoover wrote:
> >-->i was mainly curious if the seat rails themselves will fit nicely
beside the
> >-->tranny hump. i know i'll have to cut off some of the stock ZJ
bracketry and
> >-->fab up some floor mounts, but that doesn't bother me.
>
> you're pretty much stuck with the seat base for whatever it's in, build up
from there.
>
> john
>
> >-->
> >-->Neal A. Hoover
> >-->Project '76 J-10
> >-->Project '96 XJ
> >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj
> >-->
> >-->
> >-->----- Original Message -----
> >-->From: "michel balea" <mbalea-at-hotmail.com>
> >-->To: <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>; <fsj-at-digest.net>
> >-->Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:05 PM
> >-->Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
> >-->
> >-->
> >-->> I remember checking those ZJ, and the bracketry was not really
matching
> >-->for
> >-->> the width
> >-->>
> >-->> wagoneer brackets are very narrow as they mount on the tranny hump
...
> >-->they
> >-->> not even symmetrical, you have a driver and a passenger hump .
Celica was
> >-->> almost a match, as they ride very low to the ground, so you could
fab
> >-->> intermediate brackets to compensate. But if you put too much
bracketry
> >-->> between the OE mount and the replacement seat, you will hit the
ceiling,
> >-->or
> >-->> not reach the pedals
> >-->>
> >-->> some have used civic seats
> >-->>
> >-->> this is why after spending too many hours to fit those neon seats on
the
> >-->> wrangler... i bought some decent used wagoneer electrical.... and
found
> >-->> pedestal to match..... remember that from the TH400 to TF727 the
pedestal
> >-->> are supposedly different
> >-->>
> >-->> Michel
> >-->> 74 wag
> >-->>
> >-->>
> >-->> From: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
> >-->> Reply-To: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
> >-->> To: <fsj-at-digest.net>
> >-->> Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
> >-->> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:42:40 -0500
> >-->>
> >-->> fwiw, i'm headed to the local bone yard to pilfer a couple of really
nice
> >-->ZJ
> >-->> seats for my j-truck project that i've found. i know i'll have to
do a
> >-->lot
> >-->> of fabbing to make my brackets, but does anyone know of general
fitment
> >-->WRT
> >-->> the tranny hump, slide range, etc?
> >-->>
> >-->> Neal A. Hoover
> >-->> Project '76 J-10
> >-->> Project '96 XJ
> >-->> http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj
> >-->>
> >-->>
> >-->> ----- Original Message -----
> >-->> From: "Kevin" <kevin-at-mordred.punk.net>
> >-->> To: "michel balea" <mbalea-at-hotmail.com>; <fsj-at-digest.net>
> >-->> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 6:44 PM
> >-->> Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
> >-->>
> >-->>
> >-->> > My reading tells me that CJ/YJ/TJ/XJ/SJ can all use the same
seats, as
> >-->> long
> >-->> > as you use the frames/mounts that came with the vehicle. One of
the
> >-->more
> >-->> > interesting ones I've heard is eddie bauer explorer seats to get
heated
> >-->> > seats, though it looks like there's some mods that need to be
done to
> >-->> make
> >-->> > those work.
> >-->> >
> >-->> > My 83 cherokee is in need of an interior (amongst other things),
so
> >-->once
> >-->> I
> >-->> > have the back window done, and the weatherstripping done, I'll be
> >-->> revisiting
> >-->> > seats. But, before I do that, I need to put an engine in the 89
> >-->cherokee.
> >-->> >
> >-->> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:40:52PM +0000, michel balea wrote:
> >-->> > > seats are tricky.... because of the trany hump..... it cam be a
> >-->> challenge
> >-->> > > to fit the pedestal....and even if the base fit.... the length
of the
> >-->> > > glide.... i bought a pair of neon seats.... but too wide for
the
> >-->> > > wagoneer... they ended on the wrangler... w one issue... if you
are
> >-->> 5'8"
> >-->> or
> >-->> > > shorter you will not touch the pedals... and for a stick
shift....
> >-->that
> >-->> can
> >-->> > > be tricky....
> >-->> > >
> >-->> > > people claim success w escort to mustang seats (like 89 to
95ish)
> >-->being
> >-->> an
> >-->> > > almost direct bolt on. I never found a clean set of seat at
the
> >-->> > > junkyard... so never tried that combo.... got some wagoneer w
the
> >-->> leather
> >-->> > > disease.... slapped some leather piece over the gash, glued w
> >-->> barge....
> >-->> > > and sheepskin on top....
> >-->>
> >-->> _________________________________________________________________
> >-->> Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a
> >-->month.
> >-->> Intro*Terms
> >-->>
>
>-->https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&se
arch=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117
> >-->
>
> -----
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
> http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:11:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
well, there is always that really large hammer... the fine tuning
adjustment tool. comes in several versions, 4, 6, and 8 lb. :)
if that fails, there is always the hot wrench or a sawzall. :)
john
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Neal Hoover wrote:
>-->AAAAAHH!!
>-->
>-->i got that, john. :p
>-->
>-->i'll be using the ZJ rails (bases), as they are power on both seats. the
>-->stock ZJ brackets that actually bolt to the floor will have to be modified,
>-->i'm sure. i was just mainly concerned if the ZJ electric seat rails will
>-->fit beside the tranny hump, or if there will be interferance there. or
>-->maybe i'll have to modify the tranny hump a bit to get the seat rails to
>-->slide fully front to back.
>-->(heh)
>-->
>-->Neal A. Hoover
>-->Project '76 J-10
>-->Project '96 XJ
>-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj
>-->
>-->
>-->----- Original Message -----
>-->From: "john" <john-at-wagoneers.com>
>-->To: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
>-->Cc: <fsj-at-digest.net>
>-->Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:43 PM
>-->Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
>-->
>-->
>-->> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Neal Hoover wrote:
>-->> >-->i was mainly curious if the seat rails themselves will fit nicely
>-->beside the
>-->> >-->tranny hump. i know i'll have to cut off some of the stock ZJ
>-->bracketry and
>-->> >-->fab up some floor mounts, but that doesn't bother me.
>-->>
>-->> you're pretty much stuck with the seat base for whatever it's in, build up
>-->from there.
>-->>
>-->> john
>-->>
>-->> >-->
>-->> >-->Neal A. Hoover
>-->> >-->Project '76 J-10
>-->> >-->Project '96 XJ
>-->> >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj
>-->> >-->
>-->> >-->
>-->> >-->----- Original Message -----
>-->> >-->From: "michel balea" <mbalea-at-hotmail.com>
>-->> >-->To: <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>; <fsj-at-digest.net>
>-->> >-->Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:05 PM
>-->> >-->Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
>-->> >-->
>-->> >-->
>-->> >-->> I remember checking those ZJ, and the bracketry was not really
>-->matching
>-->> >-->for
>-->> >-->> the width
>-->> >-->>
>-->> >-->> wagoneer brackets are very narrow as they mount on the tranny hump
>-->...
>-->> >-->they
>-->> >-->> not even symmetrical, you have a driver and a passenger hump .
>-->Celica was
>-->> >-->> almost a match, as they ride very low to the ground, so you could
>-->fab
>-->> >-->> intermediate brackets to compensate. But if you put too much
>-->bracketry
>-->> >-->> between the OE mount and the replacement seat, you will hit the
>-->ceiling,
>-->> >-->or
>-->> >-->> not reach the pedals
>-->> >-->>
>-->> >-->> some have used civic seats
>-->> >-->>
>-->> >-->> this is why after spending too many hours to fit those neon seats on
>-->the
>-->> >-->> wrangler... i bought some decent used wagoneer electrical.... and
>-->found
>-->> >-->> pedestal to match..... remember that from the TH400 to TF727 the
>-->pedestal
>-->> >-->> are supposedly different
>-->> >-->>
>-->> >-->> Michel
>-->> >-->> 74 wag
>-->> >-->>
>-->> >-->>
>-->> >-->> From: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
>-->> >-->> Reply-To: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
>-->> >-->> To: <fsj-at-digest.net>
>-->> >-->> Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
>-->> >-->> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:42:40 -0500
>-->> >-->>
>-->> >-->> fwiw, i'm headed to the local bone yard to pilfer a couple of really
>-->nice
>-->> >-->ZJ
>-->> >-->> seats for my j-truck project that i've found. i know i'll have to
>-->do a
>-->> >-->lot
>-->> >-->> of fabbing to make my brackets, but does anyone know of general
>-->fitment
>-->> >-->WRT
>-->> >-->> the tranny hump, slide range, etc?
>-->> >-->>
>-->> >-->> Neal A. Hoover
>-->> >-->> Project '76 J-10
>-->> >-->> Project '96 XJ
>-->> >-->> http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj
>-->> >-->>
>-->> >-->>
>-->> >-->> ----- Original Message -----
>-->> >-->> From: "Kevin" <kevin-at-mordred.punk.net>
>-->> >-->> To: "michel balea" <mbalea-at-hotmail.com>; <fsj-at-digest.net>
>-->> >-->> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 6:44 PM
>-->> >-->> Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
>-->> >-->>
>-->> >-->>
>-->> >-->> > My reading tells me that CJ/YJ/TJ/XJ/SJ can all use the same
>-->seats, as
>-->> >-->> long
>-->> >-->> > as you use the frames/mounts that came with the vehicle. One of
>-->the
>-->> >-->more
>-->> >-->> > interesting ones I've heard is eddie bauer explorer seats to get
>-->heated
>-->> >-->> > seats, though it looks like there's some mods that need to be
>-->done to
>-->> >-->> make
>-->> >-->> > those work.
>-->> >-->> >
>-->> >-->> > My 83 cherokee is in need of an interior (amongst other things),
>-->so
>-->> >-->once
>-->> >-->> I
>-->> >-->> > have the back window done, and the weatherstripping done, I'll be
>-->> >-->> revisiting
>-->> >-->> > seats. But, before I do that, I need to put an engine in the 89
>-->> >-->cherokee.
>-->> >-->> >
>-->> >-->> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:40:52PM +0000, michel balea wrote:
>-->> >-->> > > seats are tricky.... because of the trany hump..... it cam be a
>-->> >-->> challenge
>-->> >-->> > > to fit the pedestal....and even if the base fit.... the length
>-->of the
>-->> >-->> > > glide.... i bought a pair of neon seats.... but too wide for
>-->the
>-->> >-->> > > wagoneer... they ended on the wrangler... w one issue... if you
>-->are
>-->> >-->> 5'8"
>-->> >-->> or
>-->> >-->> > > shorter you will not touch the pedals... and for a stick
>-->shift....
>-->> >-->that
>-->> >-->> can
>-->> >-->> > > be tricky....
>-->> >-->> > >
>-->> >-->> > > people claim success w escort to mustang seats (like 89 to
>-->95ish)
>-->> >-->being
>-->> >-->> an
>-->> >-->> > > almost direct bolt on. I never found a clean set of seat at
>-->the
>-->> >-->> > > junkyard... so never tried that combo.... got some wagoneer w
>-->the
>-->> >-->> leather
>-->> >-->> > > disease.... slapped some leather piece over the gash, glued w
>-->> >-->> barge....
>-->> >-->> > > and sheepskin on top....
>-->> >-->>
>-->> >-->> _________________________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:56:35 -0500
From: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
yer a champ, sir.
;)
Neal A. Hoover
Project '76 J-10
Project '96 XJ
http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "john" <john-at-wagoneers.com>
To: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
Cc: <fsj-at-digest.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
>
> well, there is always that really large hammer... the fine tuning
> adjustment tool. comes in several versions, 4, 6, and 8 lb. :)
> if that fails, there is always the hot wrench or a sawzall. :)
>
> john
>
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Neal Hoover wrote:
>
> >-->AAAAAHH!!
> >-->
> >-->i got that, john. :p
> >-->
> >-->i'll be using the ZJ rails (bases), as they are power on both seats.
the
> >-->stock ZJ brackets that actually bolt to the floor will have to be
modified,
> >-->i'm sure. i was just mainly concerned if the ZJ electric seat rails
will
> >-->fit beside the tranny hump, or if there will be interferance there.
or
> >-->maybe i'll have to modify the tranny hump a bit to get the seat rails
to
> >-->slide fully front to back.
> >-->(heh)
> >-->
> >-->Neal A. Hoover
> >-->Project '76 J-10
> >-->Project '96 XJ
> >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj
> >-->
> >-->
> >-->----- Original Message -----
> >-->From: "john" <john-at-wagoneers.com>
> >-->To: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
> >-->Cc: <fsj-at-digest.net>
> >-->Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:43 PM
> >-->Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
> >-->
> >-->
> >-->> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Neal Hoover wrote:
> >-->> >-->i was mainly curious if the seat rails themselves will fit
nicely
> >-->beside the
> >-->> >-->tranny hump. i know i'll have to cut off some of the stock ZJ
> >-->bracketry and
> >-->> >-->fab up some floor mounts, but that doesn't bother me.
> >-->>
> >-->> you're pretty much stuck with the seat base for whatever it's in,
build up
> >-->from there.
> >-->>
> >-->> john
> >-->>
> >-->> >-->
> >-->> >-->Neal A. Hoover
> >-->> >-->Project '76 J-10
> >-->> >-->Project '96 XJ
> >-->> >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj
> >-->> >-->
> >-->> >-->
> >-->> >-->----- Original Message -----
> >-->> >-->From: "michel balea" <mbalea-at-hotmail.com>
> >-->> >-->To: <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>; <fsj-at-digest.net>
> >-->> >-->Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:05 PM
> >-->> >-->Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
> >-->> >-->
> >-->> >-->
> >-->> >-->> I remember checking those ZJ, and the bracketry was not really
> >-->matching
> >-->> >-->for
> >-->> >-->> the width
> >-->> >-->>
> >-->> >-->> wagoneer brackets are very narrow as they mount on the tranny
hump
> >-->...
> >-->> >-->they
> >-->> >-->> not even symmetrical, you have a driver and a passenger hump .
> >-->Celica was
> >-->> >-->> almost a match, as they ride very low to the ground, so you
could
> >-->fab
> >-->> >-->> intermediate brackets to compensate. But if you put too much
> >-->bracketry
> >-->> >-->> between the OE mount and the replacement seat, you will hit
the
> >-->ceiling,
> >-->> >-->or
> >-->> >-->> not reach the pedals
> >-->> >-->>
> >-->> >-->> some have used civic seats
> >-->> >-->>
> >-->> >-->> this is why after spending too many hours to fit those neon
seats on
> >-->the
> >-->> >-->> wrangler... i bought some decent used wagoneer electrical....
and
> >-->found
> >-->> >-->> pedestal to match..... remember that from the TH400 to TF727
the
> >-->pedestal
> >-->> >-->> are supposedly different
> >-->> >-->>
> >-->> >-->> Michel
> >-->> >-->> 74 wag
> >-->> >-->>
> >-->> >-->>
> >-->> >-->> From: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
> >-->> >-->> Reply-To: "Neal Hoover" <proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net>
> >-->> >-->> To: <fsj-at-digest.net>
> >-->> >-->> Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
> >-->> >-->> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:42:40 -0500
> >-->> >-->>
> >-->> >-->> fwiw, i'm headed to the local bone yard to pilfer a couple of
really
> >-->nice
> >-->> >-->ZJ
> >-->> >-->> seats for my j-truck project that i've found. i know i'll
have to
> >-->do a
> >-->> >-->lot
> >-->> >-->> of fabbing to make my brackets, but does anyone know of
general
> >-->fitment
> >-->> >-->WRT
> >-->> >-->> the tranny hump, slide range, etc?
> >-->> >-->>
> >-->> >-->> Neal A. Hoover
> >-->> >-->> Project '76 J-10
> >-->> >-->> Project '96 XJ
> >-->> >-->> http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj
> >-->> >-->>
> >-->> >-->>
> >-->> >-->> ----- Original Message -----
> >-->> >-->> From: "Kevin" <kevin-at-mordred.punk.net>
> >-->> >-->> To: "michel balea" <mbalea-at-hotmail.com>; <fsj-at-digest.net>
> >-->> >-->> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 6:44 PM
> >-->> >-->> Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the '00 xj seats
> >-->> >-->>
> >-->> >-->>
> >-->> >-->> > My reading tells me that CJ/YJ/TJ/XJ/SJ can all use the
same
> >-->seats, as
> >-->> >-->> long
> >-->> >-->> > as you use the frames/mounts that came with the vehicle.
One of
> >-->the
> >-->> >-->more
> >-->> >-->> > interesting ones I've heard is eddie bauer explorer seats
to get
> >-->heated
> >-->> >-->> > seats, though it looks like there's some mods that need to
be
> >-->done to
> >-->> >-->> make
> >-->> >-->> > those work.
> >-->> >-->> >
> >-->> >-->> > My 83 cherokee is in need of an interior (amongst other
things),
> >-->so
> >-->> >-->once
> >-->> >-->> I
> >-->> >-->> > have the back window done, and the weatherstripping done,
I'll be
> >-->> >-->> revisiting
> >-->> >-->> > seats. But, before I do that, I need to put an engine in
the 89
> >-->> >-->cherokee.
> >-->> >-->> >
> >-->> >-->> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:40:52PM +0000, michel balea
wrote:
> >-->> >-->> > > seats are tricky.... because of the trany hump..... it
cam be a
> >-->> >-->> challenge
> >-->> >-->> > > to fit the pedestal....and even if the base fit.... the
length
> >-->of the
> >-->> >-->> > > glide.... i bought a pair of neon seats.... but too wide
for
> >-->the
> >-->> >-->> > > wagoneer... they ended on the wrangler... w one issue...
if you
> >-->are
> >-->> >-->> 5'8"
> >-->> >-->> or
> >-->> >-->> > > shorter you will not touch the pedals... and for a stick
> >-->shift....
> >-->> >-->that
> >-->> >-->> can
> >-->> >-->> > > be tricky....
> >-->> >-->> > >
> >-->> >-->> > > people claim success w escort to mustang seats (like 89
to
> >-->95ish)
> >-->> >-->being
> >-->> >-->> an
> >-->> >-->> > > almost direct bolt on. I never found a clean set of seat
at
> >-->the
> >-->> >-->> > > junkyard... so never tried that combo.... got some
wagoneer w
> >-->the
> >-->> >-->> leather
> >-->> >-->> > > disease.... slapped some leather piece over the gash,
glued w
> >-->> >-->> barge....
> >-->> >-->> > > and sheepskin on top....
> >-->> >-->>
> >-->> >-->>
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> >-->> >-->
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>
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