From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sun May 20 20:58:02 2007 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, May 21 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2850 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: [db] also... opinions on this spring compressor.. fsj: soldering info fsj: one project almost done Re: fsj: soldering info Re: fsj: soldering info fsj: RE: soldering info Re: fsj: soldering info Re: fsj: RE: soldering info fsj: Re: soldering info RE: fsj: RE: soldering info RE: fsj: RE: soldering info FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 12:00:08 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] also... opinions on this spring compressor.. On Sun, 20 May 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Troy-1-Ton-Hydraulic-Coil-Strut-Spring-Compressor-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ003QQitemZ130116033991QQrdZ1 > -->safe? looks like the same pump as the body tool... safer than using a threaded rod and wrench... john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 20:33:03 -0400 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: soldering info ok, i know this may be a spoonfeeding type question, and it's definitely not like i haven't soldered before, but i'd like a little feedback, please. i just started pulling wires on my j-truck project over the weekend. first thing i've noticed is that i'm going to have to cut and splice a *bunch* of accessory wires in order to get the correct antiquated OEM connectors to work with the new main wiring harnesses that i bought. i'm definitely NOT going to use butt or crimp-type splice connectors as they've failed on me more times than i care to count. soooo.... that means everything will be soldered, meaning that i'm going to be doing it a bunch. what i'm looking for are any kind of newfangled tips/techniques/equipment that yields quicker, better, and more durable results. (wishful thinking? maybe.) i'm very familiar with the 'ole soldering gun, flux, and solder method, but some guns work better than others on different size wires, etc.. are there any newer guns on the market that work fast, or should i even look into a high concentration propane pencil torch or something like that? does one type of flux or solder work better than others? any and all comments/suggestions would be appreciated. thanks!!! Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 18:07:04 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: one project almost done http://wagoneers.com/Willys/48-CJ-2A/20-may-2007-48-CJ-2A/ are they going to bring the CDI to the states? http://wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/fortwo-CDI.jpg ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 19:19:45 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: soldering info I've found that if the iron is hot, pencil tip, minimum of 700 degrees that it works very well. Rosin core solder is the only thing you can use. a good 60/40 rosin core solder, relatively thick will help transfer the heat more quickly. there are some new fangled butane type irons, but the old iron is still the best thing going... john On Sun, 20 May 2007, Neal Hoover wrote: >-->ok, i know this may be a spoonfeeding type question, and it's definitely not >-->like i haven't soldered before, but i'd like a little feedback, please. >-->i just started pulling wires on my j-truck project over the weekend. first >-->thing i've noticed is that i'm going to have to cut and splice a *bunch* of >-->accessory wires in order to get the correct antiquated OEM connectors to >-->work with the new main wiring harnesses that i bought. i'm definitely NOT >-->going to use butt or crimp-type splice connectors as they've failed on me >-->more times than i care to count. >-->soooo.... that means everything will be soldered, meaning that i'm going to >-->be doing it a bunch. >-->what i'm looking for are any kind of newfangled tips/techniques/equipment >-->that yields quicker, better, and more durable results. (wishful thinking? >-->maybe.) >-->i'm very familiar with the 'ole soldering gun, flux, and solder method, but >-->some guns work better than others on different size wires, etc.. are there >-->any newer guns on the market that work fast, or should i even look into a >-->high concentration propane pencil torch or something like that? does one >-->type of flux or solder work better than others? >-->any and all comments/suggestions would be appreciated. >-->thanks!!! >--> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->Project '96 XJ >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >--> ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 21:24:35 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: soldering info "Neal Hoover" said: {- ok, i know this may be a spoonfeeding type question, and it's definitely not {- like i haven't soldered before, but i'd like a little feedback, please. {- i just started pulling wires on my j-truck project over the weekend. first {- thing i've noticed is that i'm going to have to cut and splice a *bunch* of {- accessory wires in order to get the correct antiquated OEM connectors to {- work with the new main wiring harnesses that i bought. i'm definitely NOT {- going to use butt or crimp-type splice connectors as they've failed on me {- more times than i care to count. {- soooo.... that means everything will be soldered, meaning that i'm going to {- be doing it a bunch. {- what i'm looking for are any kind of newfangled tips/techniques/equipment {- that yields quicker, better, and more durable results. (wishful thinking? {- maybe.) {- i'm very familiar with the 'ole soldering gun, flux, and solder method, but {- some guns work better than others on different size wires, etc.. are there {- any newer guns on the market that work fast, or should i even look into a {- high concentration propane pencil torch or something like that? does one {- type of flux or solder work better than others? {- any and all comments/suggestions would be appreciated. I got one of these for Christmas: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/69d3/ (Might be able to get it cheaper elsewhere; thinkgeek isn't known for bargain prices.) However, I haven't had a chance to try it yet. (Though I do know one pair of wires that I _do_ need to solder...) Anybody else try one yet? I've heard good things, but nobody I know directly has tried one yet. And I'm not sure about durability of the soldered connections in a car environment. They're a little big, so might not be able to get it into some confined spaces that a smaller soldering iron would go into, but usually that's not a big problem anyway, or you'd still have problems with hot soldering gun. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I wonder who came up with the expression, "Ignorance is bliss"? Then again, maybe I'd be happier if I didn't know. -- Kermit Woodall - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 19:29:23 -0700 From: "Joe Hughes" Subject: fsj: RE: soldering info I would highly recommend a used MetCal soldering iron, preferably the STSS models. They are about $100/used on feeBay. It is a industrial soldering iron, and were originally $1000 when new. They heat up in about 5 seconds and hold their heat better than anything out there. If that is a little bit much then get a Weller, which is a good name brand too, but heats up less quickly and some models are also industrial grade. A few tips: 1. Use lots of flux. 2. Tin your soldering iron tip every time you before you shut it off. a) Put tip in flux b) Put solder on all sides of tip. c) Shut it off 3. Use a sponge and clean your tip every other solder joint. 4. Use rosin core flux so you don't have to clean it For soldering wires together: 1. Put shrink tube on one of the wires. 2. Dip wires in flux. 3. Twist 1/2" or so of wire together. 4. Solder wires (keep shrink tube away from iron) 5. Trim any stray wires or solder spikes that may penetrate shrink tubing. 6. Slip shrink tubing over soldered wires. 7. Fill with silicone. 8. Heat shrink tubing with heat gun. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Neal Hoover Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:33 PM To: XJ List; FSJ List; fsj-at-digest.net Subject: fsj: soldering info ok, i know this may be a spoonfeeding type question, and it's definitely not like i haven't soldered before, but i'd like a little feedback, please. i just started pulling wires on my j-truck project over the weekend. first thing i've noticed is that i'm going to have to cut and splice a *bunch* of accessory wires in order to get the correct antiquated OEM connectors to work with the new main wiring harnesses that i bought. i'm definitely NOT going to use butt or crimp-type splice connectors as they've failed on me more times than i care to count. soooo.... that means everything will be soldered, meaning that i'm going to be doing it a bunch. what i'm looking for are any kind of newfangled tips/techniques/equipment that yields quicker, better, and more durable results. (wishful thinking? maybe.) i'm very familiar with the 'ole soldering gun, flux, and solder method, but some guns work better than others on different size wires, etc.. are there any newer guns on the market that work fast, or should i even look into a high concentration propane pencil torch or something like that? does one type of flux or solder work better than others? any and all comments/suggestions would be appreciated. thanks!!! Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 19:47:05 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: soldering info On Sun, 20 May 2007, Dan Black wrote: >-->I got one of these for Christmas: >-->http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/69d3/ >-->Anybody else try one yet? I've heard good things, but nobody I know >-->directly has tried one yet. And I'm not sure about durability of the >-->soldered connections in a car environment. solder is the best solution for automotive connections... the lead seals the physical connection and has some "give" to it. butt connectors and such can corrode and break. >-->They're a little big, so might not be able to get it into some confined >-->spaces that a smaller soldering iron would go into, but usually that's >-->not a big problem anyway, or you'd still have problems with hot >-->soldering gun. the biggest problem I see with it is the temperature, the optimum temperature for 60/40 solder is around 646 degrees... 500 degrees isn't going to do the job. that's why I use 700 degree pencil tips, plenty of heat to get the joint heated up quickly, solder flowing and then I get out before I do any damage to nearby circuitry. >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> I wonder who came up with the expression, "Ignorance is bliss"? >--> Then again, maybe I'd be happier if I didn't know. >--> -- Kermit Woodall I've always said, if Ignorance is Bliss, this place must be paradise. ;) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 19:49:50 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: RE: soldering info Joe, It sounds like you've done this before. :) One also has to remember that a good solder connection starts with a good mechanical connection, hence the details in step 3 below. shrink tubing on a connection is also a great idea... I've had reasonable success with a small propane torch and soldering iron. sounds like you prefer to use the Rosin flux paste instead of rosin core solder... john On Sun, 20 May 2007, Joe Hughes wrote: >-->I would highly recommend a used MetCal soldering iron, preferably the STSS >-->models. They are about $100/used on feeBay. It is a industrial soldering >-->iron, and were originally $1000 when new. They heat up in about 5 seconds >-->and hold their heat better than anything out there. If that is a little bit >-->much then get a Weller, which is a good name brand too, but heats up less >-->quickly and some models are also industrial grade. >--> >-->A few tips: >-->1. Use lots of flux. >-->2. Tin your soldering iron tip every time you before you shut it off. >--> a) Put tip in flux >--> b) Put solder on all sides of tip. >--> c) Shut it off >-->3. Use a sponge and clean your tip every other solder joint. >-->4. Use rosin core flux so you don't have to clean it >--> >-->For soldering wires together: >-->1. Put shrink tube on one of the wires. >-->2. Dip wires in flux. >-->3. Twist 1/2" or so of wire together. >-->4. Solder wires (keep shrink tube away from iron) >-->5. Trim any stray wires or solder spikes that may penetrate shrink tubing. >-->6. Slip shrink tubing over soldered wires. >-->7. Fill with silicone. >-->8. Heat shrink tubing with heat gun. >--> >--> >-->-----Original Message----- >-->From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Neal >-->Hoover >-->Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:33 PM >-->To: XJ List; FSJ List; fsj-at-digest.net >-->Subject: fsj: soldering info >--> >-->ok, i know this may be a spoonfeeding type question, and it's definitely not >-->like i haven't soldered before, but i'd like a little feedback, please. >-->i just started pulling wires on my j-truck project over the weekend. first >-->thing i've noticed is that i'm going to have to cut and splice a *bunch* of >-->accessory wires in order to get the correct antiquated OEM connectors to >-->work with the new main wiring harnesses that i bought. i'm definitely NOT >-->going to use butt or crimp-type splice connectors as they've failed on me >-->more times than i care to count. >-->soooo.... that means everything will be soldered, meaning that i'm going to >-->be doing it a bunch. >-->what i'm looking for are any kind of newfangled tips/techniques/equipment >-->that yields quicker, better, and more durable results. (wishful thinking? >-->maybe.) >-->i'm very familiar with the 'ole soldering gun, flux, and solder method, but >-->some guns work better than others on different size wires, etc.. are there >-->any newer guns on the market that work fast, or should i even look into a >-->high concentration propane pencil torch or something like that? does one >-->type of flux or solder work better than others? >-->any and all comments/suggestions would be appreciated. >-->thanks!!! >--> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->Project '96 XJ >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >--> ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 22:54:09 -0400 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: soldering info sounds like you've outlined exactly the methodology that i've been used to, Joe! all except for paying big-boy dollars on a gun. i just don't think i can pull the trigger on that one. ;) thanks! Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Hughes" To: "'Neal Hoover'" ; ; Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:29 PM Subject: RE: soldering info > I would highly recommend a used MetCal soldering iron, preferably the STSS > models. They are about $100/used on feeBay. It is a industrial soldering > iron, and were originally $1000 when new. They heat up in about 5 seconds > and hold their heat better than anything out there. If that is a little bit > much then get a Weller, which is a good name brand too, but heats up less > quickly and some models are also industrial grade. > > A few tips: > 1. Use lots of flux. > 2. Tin your soldering iron tip every time you before you shut it off. > a) Put tip in flux > b) Put solder on all sides of tip. > c) Shut it off > 3. Use a sponge and clean your tip every other solder joint. > 4. Use rosin core flux so you don't have to clean it > > For soldering wires together: > 1. Put shrink tube on one of the wires. > 2. Dip wires in flux. > 3. Twist 1/2" or so of wire together. > 4. Solder wires (keep shrink tube away from iron) > 5. Trim any stray wires or solder spikes that may penetrate shrink tubing. > 6. Slip shrink tubing over soldered wires. > 7. Fill with silicone. > 8. Heat shrink tubing with heat gun. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Neal > Hoover > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:33 PM > To: XJ List; FSJ List; fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: soldering info > > ok, i know this may be a spoonfeeding type question, and it's definitely not > like i haven't soldered before, but i'd like a little feedback, please. > i just started pulling wires on my j-truck project over the weekend. first > thing i've noticed is that i'm going to have to cut and splice a *bunch* of > accessory wires in order to get the correct antiquated OEM connectors to > work with the new main wiring harnesses that i bought. i'm definitely NOT > going to use butt or crimp-type splice connectors as they've failed on me > more times than i care to count. > soooo.... that means everything will be soldered, meaning that i'm going to > be doing it a bunch. > what i'm looking for are any kind of newfangled tips/techniques/equipment > that yields quicker, better, and more durable results. (wishful thinking? > maybe.) > i'm very familiar with the 'ole soldering gun, flux, and solder method, but > some guns work better than others on different size wires, etc.. are there > any newer guns on the market that work fast, or should i even look into a > high concentration propane pencil torch or something like that? does one > type of flux or solder work better than others? > any and all comments/suggestions would be appreciated. > thanks!!! > > Neal A. Hoover > Project '76 J-10 > Project '96 XJ > http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 20:41:13 -0700 From: "Joe Hughes" Subject: RE: fsj: RE: soldering info In a former lifetime I was a manufacturing engineer then a consultant for several electronics manufacturers. Actually I prefer rosin core solder, but I've been using a spool of no-clean solder (acquired from a former employer), so I just bought some flux paste to use with that solder. Joe H. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:50 PM To: Joe Hughes Cc: 'Neal Hoover'; fsj-at-digest.net; FSJ-List-at-yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: fsj: RE: soldering info Joe, It sounds like you've done this before. :) One also has to remember that a good solder connection starts with a good mechanical connection, hence the details in step 3 below. shrink tubing on a connection is also a great idea... I've had reasonable success with a small propane torch and soldering iron. sounds like you prefer to use the Rosin flux paste instead of rosin core solder... john On Sun, 20 May 2007, Joe Hughes wrote: >-->I would highly recommend a used MetCal soldering iron, preferably the STSS >-->models. They are about $100/used on feeBay. It is a industrial soldering >-->iron, and were originally $1000 when new. They heat up in about 5 seconds >-->and hold their heat better than anything out there. If that is a little bit >-->much then get a Weller, which is a good name brand too, but heats up less >-->quickly and some models are also industrial grade. >--> >-->A few tips: >-->1. Use lots of flux. >-->2. Tin your soldering iron tip every time you before you shut it off. >--> a) Put tip in flux >--> b) Put solder on all sides of tip. >--> c) Shut it off >-->3. Use a sponge and clean your tip every other solder joint. >-->4. Use rosin core flux so you don't have to clean it >--> >-->For soldering wires together: >-->1. Put shrink tube on one of the wires. >-->2. Dip wires in flux. >-->3. Twist 1/2" or so of wire together. >-->4. Solder wires (keep shrink tube away from iron) >-->5. Trim any stray wires or solder spikes that may penetrate shrink tubing. >-->6. Slip shrink tubing over soldered wires. >-->7. Fill with silicone. >-->8. Heat shrink tubing with heat gun. >--> >--> >-->-----Original Message----- >-->From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Neal >-->Hoover >-->Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:33 PM >-->To: XJ List; FSJ List; fsj-at-digest.net >-->Subject: fsj: soldering info >--> >-->ok, i know this may be a spoonfeeding type question, and it's definitely not >-->like i haven't soldered before, but i'd like a little feedback, please. >-->i just started pulling wires on my j-truck project over the weekend. first >-->thing i've noticed is that i'm going to have to cut and splice a *bunch* of >-->accessory wires in order to get the correct antiquated OEM connectors to >-->work with the new main wiring harnesses that i bought. i'm definitely NOT >-->going to use butt or crimp-type splice connectors as they've failed on me >-->more times than i care to count. >-->soooo.... that means everything will be soldered, meaning that i'm going to >-->be doing it a bunch. >-->what i'm looking for are any kind of newfangled tips/techniques/equipment >-->that yields quicker, better, and more durable results. (wishful thinking? >-->maybe.) >-->i'm very familiar with the 'ole soldering gun, flux, and solder method, but >-->some guns work better than others on different size wires, etc.. are there >-->any newer guns on the market that work fast, or should i even look into a >-->high concentration propane pencil torch or something like that? does one >-->type of flux or solder work better than others? >-->any and all comments/suggestions would be appreciated. >-->thanks!!! >--> >-->Neal A. Hoover >-->Project '76 J-10 >-->Project '96 XJ >-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >--> ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 20:55:33 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: RE: soldering info I've got a 5 lb roll of 60/40 rosin core I've had for several years, no idea of when or where I got it... :) john On Sun, 20 May 2007, Joe Hughes wrote: >-->In a former lifetime I was a manufacturing engineer then a consultant for >-->several electronics manufacturers. >--> >-->Actually I prefer rosin core solder, but I've been using a spool of no-clean >-->solder (acquired from a former employer), so I just bought some flux paste >-->to use with that solder. >--> >-->Joe H. >--> >-->-----Original Message----- >-->From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john >-->Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:50 PM >-->To: Joe Hughes >-->Cc: 'Neal Hoover'; fsj-at-digest.net; FSJ-List-at-yahoogroups.com >-->Subject: Re: fsj: RE: soldering info >--> >-->Joe, >--> >-->It sounds like you've done this before. :) >--> >-->One also has to remember that a good solder connection starts >-->with a good mechanical connection, hence the details in step 3 below. >--> >-->shrink tubing on a connection is also a great idea... I've had >-->reasonable success with a small propane torch and soldering iron. >--> >-->sounds like you prefer to use the Rosin flux paste instead of >-->rosin core solder... >--> >-->john >--> >-->On Sun, 20 May 2007, Joe Hughes wrote: >--> >-->>-->I would highly recommend a used MetCal soldering iron, preferably the >-->STSS >-->>-->models. They are about $100/used on feeBay. It is a industrial >-->soldering >-->>-->iron, and were originally $1000 when new. They heat up in about 5 >-->seconds >-->>-->and hold their heat better than anything out there. If that is a little >-->bit >-->>-->much then get a Weller, which is a good name brand too, but heats up >-->less >-->>-->quickly and some models are also industrial grade. >-->>--> >-->>-->A few tips: >-->>-->1. Use lots of flux. >-->>-->2. Tin your soldering iron tip every time you before you shut it off. >-->>--> a) Put tip in flux >-->>--> b) Put solder on all sides of tip. >-->>--> c) Shut it off >-->>-->3. Use a sponge and clean your tip every other solder joint. >-->>-->4. Use rosin core flux so you don't have to clean it >-->>--> >-->>-->For soldering wires together: >-->>-->1. Put shrink tube on one of the wires. >-->>-->2. Dip wires in flux. >-->>-->3. Twist 1/2" or so of wire together. >-->>-->4. Solder wires (keep shrink tube away from iron) >-->>-->5. Trim any stray wires or solder spikes that may penetrate shrink >-->tubing. >-->>-->6. Slip shrink tubing over soldered wires. >-->>-->7. Fill with silicone. >-->>-->8. Heat shrink tubing with heat gun. >-->>--> >-->>--> >-->>-->-----Original Message----- >-->>-->From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of >-->Neal >-->>-->Hoover >-->>-->Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:33 PM >-->>-->To: XJ List; FSJ List; fsj-at-digest.net >-->>-->Subject: fsj: soldering info >-->>--> >-->>-->ok, i know this may be a spoonfeeding type question, and it's definitely >-->not >-->>-->like i haven't soldered before, but i'd like a little feedback, please. >-->>-->i just started pulling wires on my j-truck project over the weekend. >-->first >-->>-->thing i've noticed is that i'm going to have to cut and splice a *bunch* >-->of >-->>-->accessory wires in order to get the correct antiquated OEM connectors to >-->>-->work with the new main wiring harnesses that i bought. i'm definitely >-->NOT >-->>-->going to use butt or crimp-type splice connectors as they've failed on >-->me >-->>-->more times than i care to count. >-->>-->soooo.... that means everything will be soldered, meaning that i'm going >-->to >-->>-->be doing it a bunch. >-->>-->what i'm looking for are any kind of newfangled >-->tips/techniques/equipment >-->>-->that yields quicker, better, and more durable results. (wishful >-->thinking? >-->>-->maybe.) >-->>-->i'm very familiar with the 'ole soldering gun, flux, and solder method, >-->but >-->>-->some guns work better than others on different size wires, etc.. are >-->there >-->>-->any newer guns on the market that work fast, or should i even look into >-->a >-->>-->high concentration propane pencil torch or something like that? does >-->one >-->>-->type of flux or solder work better than others? >-->>-->any and all comments/suggestions would be appreciated. >-->>-->thanks!!! >-->>--> >-->>-->Neal A. Hoover >-->>-->Project '76 J-10 >-->>-->Project '96 XJ >-->>-->http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj >-->>--> >--> >--> ----- >-->---------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >--> http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** >-->---------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2850 **************************