From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Fri Sep 7 22:52:28 2007 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Saturday, September 8 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2915 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: air force humor Re: fsj: NP229 rear seal swap Re: fsj: NP229 rear seal swap fsj: Wanted: Bed Lamp Housing fsj: Vote: FSJ vs. Toyota Re: fsj: Wanted: Bed Lamp Housing Re: fsj: Vote: FSJ vs. Toyota Re: fsj: Vote: FSJ vs. Toyota RE: fsj: Wanted: Bed Lamp Housing RE: fsj: Wanted: Bed Lamp Housing fsj: Re: [db] Vandals Attack Man's Hummer, Leave Note (fwd) Re: fsj: Vote: FSJ vs. Toyota Re: fsj: Vote: FSJ vs. Toyota Re: fsj: Vote: FSJ vs. Toyota Re: fsj: Re: [db] Vandals Attack Man's Hummer, Leave Note (fwd) Re: fsj: Vote: FSJ vs. Toyota Re: fsj: Vote: FSJ vs. Toyota fsj: it's raining vehicles... Re: fsj: Re: [db] Vandals Attack Man's Hummer, Leave Note (fwd) FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:16:46 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: air force humor http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=147877 ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:17:24 -0500 From: JeepNut Subject: Re: fsj: NP229 rear seal swap hmm.... apparently you don't have my wife. "you've spent a small fortune already on all those tools out there, what do you mean take it to the shop?!!!" john wrote: > you know, I've found a much easier way to do these... actually > had to do this to the pinion seals on my WJ... while on the road > in South Dakota... > > I pulled into a shop, took out my credit card and got a receipt > for about $70 to have them replace the seal, put in new parts and > even had them install my amsoil synthetic gear lube... and I got > a nice chair to sit in, dialed out on my verizon broadband card... > and, even got a cup of coffee out of the deal... > > didn't even get my hands dirty... > > maybe I'm getting old... > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - -- In my day, we didn't have virtual reality. If a one-eyed razorback barbarian warrior was chasing you with an ax, you just had to hope you could outrun him. - Sarah M. Wolford - ---------------------------------------------------------- #1 '87 Street Comanche #24/100 - Currently Offline #2 '92 Cherokee Laredo - Bone stock #3 '88 Grand Wagoneer specs -'81 AMC 360 -.030 over; Edelbrock Performer w/ 600cfm 4bbl; TFI ignition upgrade; TF727 -mild kit; NP229; D44's F/R -3:31; 6" lift kit; stainless brake lines; ProComp 3000 shocks; Maxxis Buckshot 33x12.5x15; OEM 14 Spoke Wagonwheels; IPF 65/55 lamps; Dozer front bumper; ...and more to come. #4 '04 Grand Cherokee Limited - Bone stock ...And they say "There's Only One"... Proof Chrysler knows NOTHING about Jeeps. - ---------------------------------------------------------- Registered Linux user #287453 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:28:27 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: NP229 rear seal swap On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, JeepNut wrote: # hmm.... apparently you don't have my wife. # "you've spent a small fortune already on all those tools out there, what # do you mean take it to the shop?!!!" good point... and if it weren't 115 Degrees outside and my tools 1,500 miles away mine might have made that comment as well... I have heard those kinds of comments when I take something to the shop... but grad school for the last two years has solved that problem... and I'm really looking forward to having the time to actually do some work/puttering again... 24 more class sessions... 12 more weekends... 3 more classes... tomorrow is the presentation on variable budgets, saturday the final... Lord willing I'll pass... have logged 69.4 hours since last friday... was able to study a little bit over the weekend... oh well, time to call it a night... need rest... long day tomorrow... john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:11:04 -0400 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Wanted: Bed Lamp Housing yup. i'm looking for a good bed lamp housing for my j-truck. i have one, but the finish is about gone from it, and it's about impossible to find a good chrome paint to restore it. hit me back channel with responses/pics. thanks!!! Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:20:58 -0600 From: Michael Shimniok Subject: fsj: Vote: FSJ vs. Toyota Hey all... maybe this is cheesy to ask but I need a favor... I found out earlier this week from one of the bbs'es I'm on, somebody picked my rig to go up against a nice Toyota FJ60 in the CarDomain face off this week. Apparently a set of tires are at stake(!!!) Voting ends today (Friday) http://www.cardomain.com/features/faceoff Wondering if you'd consider helping an FSJ brother out. :) If you vote for the Toy, no worries, I won't hold it against you; it's a nice rig. But... it's a Toyota... :D Thanks much! Michael Btw, I'm not 100% sure what tires they are giving away. I think it might be that sweet set of Kumho Ecsta's pictured, and my WRX "Sport Wagon" needs new shoes really badly right now so that'd be awesome. If it's truck tires, that would rock as well as I am due for some rubber in a year or two. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:56:21 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Wanted: Bed Lamp Housing can't you just have it rechromed professionally? or is that something that disappeared with the 60's? ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Neal Hoover wrote: # yup. # i'm looking for a good bed lamp housing for my j-truck. i have one, but the # finish is about gone from it, and it's about impossible to find a good # chrome paint to restore it. # hit me back channel with responses/pics. # thanks!!! # # Neal A. Hoover # Project '76 J-10 # Project '96 XJ # http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:57:25 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Vote: FSJ vs. Toyota will pass the word to other JEEP lists for you!!! john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Michael Shimniok wrote: # Hey all... maybe this is cheesy to ask but I need a favor... # # I found out earlier this week from one of the bbs'es I'm on, somebody picked # my rig to go up against a nice Toyota FJ60 in the CarDomain face off this # week. Apparently a set of tires are at stake(!!!) # # Voting ends today (Friday) # # http://www.cardomain.com/features/faceoff # # Wondering if you'd consider helping an FSJ brother out. :) # # If you vote for the Toy, no worries, I won't hold it against you; it's a nice # rig. But... it's a Toyota... :D # # Thanks much! # # Michael # # Btw, I'm not 100% sure what tires they are giving away. I think it might be # that sweet set of Kumho Ecsta's pictured, and my WRX "Sport Wagon" needs new # shoes really badly right now so that'd be awesome. If it's truck tires, that # would rock as well as I am due for some rubber in a year or two. # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 08:13:43 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Vote: FSJ vs. Toyota discount tires is where I buy my tires... well Michael, you've got one vote... one of these days I hope to see my '91 White GW back in the driveway, and it needs new tires... :) so does the '89 GW... looks just like Old Blue, only better. john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Michael Shimniok wrote: # Hey all... maybe this is cheesy to ask but I need a favor... # # I found out earlier this week from one of the bbs'es I'm on, somebody picked # my rig to go up against a nice Toyota FJ60 in the CarDomain face off this # week. Apparently a set of tires are at stake(!!!) # # Voting ends today (Friday) # # http://www.cardomain.com/features/faceoff # # Wondering if you'd consider helping an FSJ brother out. :) # # If you vote for the Toy, no worries, I won't hold it against you; it's a nice # rig. But... it's a Toyota... :D # # Thanks much! # # Michael # # Btw, I'm not 100% sure what tires they are giving away. I think it might be # that sweet set of Kumho Ecsta's pictured, and my WRX "Sport Wagon" needs new # shoes really badly right now so that'd be awesome. If it's truck tires, that # would rock as well as I am due for some rubber in a year or two. # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:21:54 +0000 From: "michel balea" Subject: RE: fsj: Wanted: Bed Lamp Housing May be adapting some newer trucks bed lamp? Of course the silly me, always wonders... why do we need truck bed lighting? The city dwellers always have a nearby lamp post or a porch light. I use the new led headlights... the things you are missing are always stucked under some other pieces. Michel 74 wag From: "Neal Hoover" Reply-To: "Neal Hoover" To: , "FSJ List" Subject: fsj: Wanted: Bed Lamp Housing Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:11:04 -0400 yup. i'm looking for a good bed lamp housing for my j-truck. i have one, but the finish is about gone from it, and it's about impossible to find a good chrome paint to restore it. hit me back channel with responses/pics. thanks!!! Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj _________________________________________________________________ More photos; more messages; more whatever. Windows Live Hotmail - NOW with 5GB storage. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_5G_0907 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: Wanted: Bed Lamp Housing street lights? lamp posts? porch lights? you don't live in the country do you? :) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, michel balea wrote: # May be adapting some newer trucks bed lamp? # # Of course the silly me, always wonders... why do we need truck bed lighting? # The city dwellers always have a nearby lamp post or a porch light. I use the # new led headlights... the things you are missing are always stucked under # some other pieces. # # Michel # 74 wag # # From: "Neal Hoover" # Reply-To: "Neal Hoover" # To: , "FSJ List" # Subject: fsj: Wanted: Bed Lamp Housing # Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:11:04 -0400 # # yup. # i'm looking for a good bed lamp housing for my j-truck. i have one, but the # finish is about gone from it, and it's about impossible to find a good # chrome paint to restore it. # hit me back channel with responses/pics. # thanks!!! # # Neal A. Hoover # Project '76 J-10 # Project '96 XJ # http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj # # _________________________________________________________________ # More photos; more messages; more whatever. Windows Live Hotmail - NOW with # 5GB storage. # http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_5G_0907 # # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:45:50 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] Vandals Attack Man's Hummer, Leave Note (fwd) how is vandalism violence anyway? it's cowardice... those weasels most likely would not have faced up to the owner... don't like hummers either, but I do enjoy liberty and respect other's rights to live as they see fit, but do have a moral obligation to warn others... warning others does not include violence, vandalism, theft, intimidation or any other tactic used by those supposedly concerned about the planet. Their selfishness, arrogance and ignorance is overwhelming. Legitimate discourse with such is impossible. Their minds are blind to logic, truth and reality. They call others close-minded, but don't see the paradox in their own views. What angers me is the ignorance about Diesels... among a variety of other topics. ;) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Jim Hoffman wrote: # # > Liem quickly added that she does not condone # > violence. # > # # Yeah, sure she doesn't... But she probably wouldn't # have done much to stop it either if she'd seen it... # That's just sick... And no I don't like Hummers! ;) # # Jim # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:09:10 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Vote: FSJ vs. Toyota Michael, what happened to the front of your FSJ in the picture with the engine? john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Michael Shimniok wrote: # Hey all... maybe this is cheesy to ask but I need a favor... # # I found out earlier this week from one of the bbs'es I'm on, somebody picked # my rig to go up against a nice Toyota FJ60 in the CarDomain face off this # week. Apparently a set of tires are at stake(!!!) # # Voting ends today (Friday) # # http://www.cardomain.com/features/faceoff # # Wondering if you'd consider helping an FSJ brother out. :) # # If you vote for the Toy, no worries, I won't hold it against you; it's a nice # rig. But... it's a Toyota... :D # # Thanks much! # # Michael # # Btw, I'm not 100% sure what tires they are giving away. I think it might be # that sweet set of Kumho Ecsta's pictured, and my WRX "Sport Wagon" needs new # shoes really badly right now so that'd be awesome. If it's truck tires, that # would rock as well as I am due for some rubber in a year or two. # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:06:36 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: Vote: FSJ vs. Toyota john said: {- Michael, {- what happened to the front of your FSJ in the picture with the engine? Umm, I think that was the donor vehicle for the engine he swapped in while working on the other. Gotta read the text. ;) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The best thing about going the wrong way on a one-way street? Hey, no stop signs! -- Jerry Kassebaum - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 11:17:09 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Vote: FSJ vs. Toyota read? who has time to do that? ;) thanx... don't forget to vote early and often, the fame of the FSJ is at stake here... suggest voting only once from each computer... I've voted from two so far... have about 68 more to go... (have lab, will vote. ;) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Dan Black wrote: # john said: # {- Michael, # {- what happened to the front of your FSJ in the picture with the engine? # # Umm, I think that was the donor vehicle for the engine he swapped in # while working on the other. Gotta read the text. ;) # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # The best thing about going the wrong way on a one-way street? # Hey, no stop signs! # -- Jerry Kassebaum # -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:15:52 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: Re: [db] Vandals Attack Man's Hummer, Leave Note (fwd) john said: {- don't like hummers either, but I do enjoy liberty and respect {- other's rights to live as they see fit, I agree. That's why, as much as I dislike ricers and 22" plastik rims myself, I cringe when I hear about uppity communities trying to outlaw those things. All those options may be stupid in my eyes, but they're not hurting anybody, and that means it should be the owner's choice. (Same for baggy jeans. Some communities are trying to ban those now. That means they're LITERALLY becoming the fashion police! I think they look dumb and seem to be a lot of trouble, pulling them up all the time, but they're not hurting me. People have every right to look stupid if they want.) {- but do have a moral {- obligation to warn others... warning others does not include {- violence, vandalism, theft, intimidation or any other tactic {- used by those supposedly concerned about the planet. Their selfishness, {- arrogance and ignorance is overwhelming. Legitimate discourse {- with such is impossible. Their minds are blind to logic, {- truth and reality. They call others close-minded, but don't {- see the paradox in their own views. Yeah, it reminds me a lot of the ELF (Earth Liberation Front) burning dealerships that sold SUVs, releasing HUGE amounts of toxic fumes into the air that far outweighed what the vehicles would have put out over their full lives. To quote George Carlin, "Some people are really f***in' stupid!" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I went to college, and it was okay. -- Jim - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:26:49 CDT From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: Vote: FSJ vs. Toyota john said: {- read? {- who has time to do that? ;) I'm sorry, what did you say? ;) {- don't forget to vote early and often, the fame of the FSJ is at stake here... {- suggest voting only once from each computer... Yeah, I voted once. If I remember, I'll do it again from home. {- I've voted from two so far... have about 68 more to go... {- (have lab, will vote. ;) The _smarter_ polls actually watch subnets and stuff to catch that sort of thing. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Las cucarachas entran, pero no puedan salir. - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 11:39:43 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Vote: FSJ vs. Toyota I have four networks in my lab... will be in four different locations today... :) hey, check this out: http://wagoneers.com/tmp/83stepside/ I may have solved the black hole problem... at least until Superdawg is reassembled... tired of waiting, over six years is ridiculous... can't believe it... what a nightmare... hopefully omega will be done soon... supposed to have been done in May. no word from the black hole... :( ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Dan Black wrote: # john said: # {- read? # {- who has time to do that? ;) # # I'm sorry, what did you say? ;) # # {- don't forget to vote early and often, the fame of the FSJ is at stake here... # {- suggest voting only once from each computer... # # Yeah, I voted once. If I remember, I'll do it again from home. # # {- I've voted from two so far... have about 68 more to go... # {- (have lab, will vote. ;) # # The _smarter_ polls actually watch subnets and stuff to catch that sort # of thing. # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Las cucarachas entran, pero no puedan salir. # -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 15:31:32 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: it's raining vehicles... in the last week I've been tempted by or offered two j10s, a handful of Grand Wagoneers and more than a few Cherokees... :) hello, I'm john, I'm a jeep-a-holic. :) seriously, there is a very likely possibility of a couple of j10s following me home, and I'm still thinking about that '99 xj limited with that beautiful tan leather interior and factory sunroof... of course no word from the black hole on omega or superdawg... it would really help if I knew with certainty that the 6.2 would work in the '91 Grand Wagoneer... my son is junking his '83 GMC Jimmy (my old rig)... he lost the rad last summer and know the heads are cracked... he's bailing and looking for another XJ or FSJ down in Tucson... has about $2k to spend. I still need to fix and sell the '89 GW... when and if I ever get a daily driver jeep I may part with shadowfax, in the mean time he's safe... enjoying his extreme reliability and economy... fun times... well, I'm off to school... presentation and final exam... not excited about this at all... got to make to Saturday afternoon... 24 hrs of pure hades starting in 37 minutes... later, john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 22:45:32 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: Re: fsj: Re: [db] Vandals Attack Man's Hummer, Leave Note (fwd) It's not the rims that are the problem. It's the illegally slammed rigs (no adjustment for steering or give to suspension and they skid out of control on a damp spot) with fart can mufflers or straight pipes that race up and down through places (like the apartment complex I'm moving out of) at all hours of the day and night with thumping stereos (they need headphones so none of their "music" is wasted on other people. They are creating more Global Warming!), screaming tires john said: {- don't like hummers either, but I do enjoy liberty and respect {- other's rights to live as they see fit, Dan wrote: I agree. That's why, as much as I dislike ricers and 22" plastik rims myself, I cringe when I hear about uppity communities trying to outlaw those things. All those options may be stupid in my eyes, but they're not hurting anybody, and that means it should be the owner's choice. http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_MSNHMTxt_1 ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2915 **************************