From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Nov 1 23:33:51 2007 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Friday, November 2 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2947 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list fsj: googlesearch Gladiator fsj: FSJ mags, cheap RE: fsj: 5.6 SF? Re: fsj: FSJ mags, cheap RE: fsj: OT: Re: fuel prices! Re: fsj: googlesearch Gladiator fsj: RE: [db] fuel prices! fsj: FC trucks near Seattle for sale fsj: someone need a 228 tcase? fsj: 82 Cherokee Chief parts $200 fsj: FW: Eaton Springs - General Springs Question (fwd) FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 06:15:01 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. Persons who read the list via email are automatically members, but readers of the FTP archive are not, and need to contact me (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) and get your name added to the list of "permitted senders". b) has your email address changed? some of you have had changes in your email address. your old address still works, and is still on the list, but your From: line shows a new address. this can happen for various reasons; you may have changed jobs or ISPs, and left a forward in place, or your IT staff may have fiddled with the email system. you will need to unsubscribe your old email address and subscribe the new one. this may require my involvement, if you can't figure out a way to get your old address off the list using the conventional majordomo commands. you can use the majordomo "which" command to probe for old addresses. send a message to majordomo-at-digest.net with one or more which commands in the body, one per line. to check for potential addresses for Fred Flinstone, formerly of bedrock.org, the following commands can be sent: which flintstone which bedrock note that the matches above might return any of the following addresses, if they appear in the list (in other words, you can use vagueness and incompleteness in your recollection as a tool): Fred.Flinstone-at-bedrock.org fflinstone-at-wilma.bedrock.org flintstonef-at-bedrock.com c) do you have more than one email address? if so, only the subscribed addresses can post, unless you contact me (see 1.a) above for relevant information) d) are you using (intentionally or accidentially) special "features" of your mail client? [this section is no longer operative, as the demime software now strips html, attachments, rich text format, etc. from postings automatically.] e) are your posts too large? there is a 10,000 character limit on posting sizes; this is done for various reasons. you can always split up large postings to get mail through. f) are you including majordomo commands at the start of your message? administrivia control is turned on; this is a trap for things like "unsubscribe" at the start of a message. try to avoid obvious majordomo commands in the subject and the first 10 lines, or misspell them in obvious ways (e.g. unzubscribe, 1ndex, h3lp, g3t, etc.) g) are you triggering spam traps? some things are red flags; for example, many phrases found commonly in spam are automatically blocked. h) are you using "funky" character sets? [7 bit restriction lifted experimentally on 8/2/00 -- film at 11] unfortunately, there are "issues" if i permit any character set other than old fashioned 7 level ASCII; therefore, you need to avoid national character sets that include various accents, umlauts, national currency characters such as the British pound symbol, etc. i) are you unintentionally including complete digests in your reply? You need to check and make sure you cut down replys to the minimal size; digests are between 20,000 and 25,000 characters in length, and if you include a complete digest in your reply, it clearly won't make the 10,000 character limit. By the way, this feature is intentional. j) Are you using a "bad" ISP or mail relay? See http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html for more information about Digest.Net policies about email. k) Is the error message you get back "User Unknown"? If so, you may be running afoul of spam control severices (again, see http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html) When these services register a hit, the error code 550 is returned. 550 is a generic code that many broken mail systems report as "user unknown". The "rejectlog" entries for the previous day's mail traffic on digest.net may be viewed at http://www.digest.net/rejectlog.01 Some of you may find it useful or instructive to use the telnet program to connect directly to port 25 on krusty-motorsports.com and see what kind of reply you get; this requires some technical knowledge and is not for everyone (you can get out of this at anytime after the initial banner simply by typing quit and hitting enter.) l) Is SMTP over TLS involved? This is a bit esoteric, but as of 8/8/01 the digest.net mail server will attempt to use "TLS" (Transport Layer Security) for outbound mail if the destination mail server offers it. SMTP over TLS is fairly new technology, and a bit buggy. I am monitoring the logs on the server, and when I see TLS related problems, I manually place the problem destinations on a special exception list; however, this may delay email to the destination host until I make the exception. 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? a) are you using the right address? send to majordomo-at-digest.net, and the command format is unsubscribe list-name my-email-address b) has your email address changed? majordomo has no way of knowing that Fred.Flinstone-at-BarneyCo.com was once fflintstone-at-bedrock.org. you can check this with the which command (see 1.b) above for details) 3. How do I post to the list? You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw-at-digest.net or bmw-digest-at-digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:21:00 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: fsj: googlesearch Gladiator For some reason I can't post the direct link, but someone on here has a '66 Gladiator he's fixing up with a 327 th400 setup. http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/ Written laws are like spiders' webs, and will like them only Entangle and hold the poor and weak, while the rich and powerful will easily break through them ANACHARSIS Scythian philosopher (fl. 600 BC) _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailne ws ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:11:32 -0700 From: "Tacoma White" Subject: fsj: FSJ mags, cheap Don't know if anyone's looking, but I ran across these 70's kidney-bean mags while looking for some beater tires. Anyway, here's the ad: http://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/pts/456842599.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:28:04 +0000 From: michel balea Subject: RE: fsj: 5.6 SF? As Jim said, 5.6 is a mere rattle..... yet as it is a log scale.... at 6.0 it starts to get your attention. I believe it was a shake and a long rattle... 20 seconds is very long.... I remember Loma Prieta.... 15 seconds.... was very intense.... I was out of town.... for a few days in the sierras about 130 miles east as the crow flies.... and miss the action... I did not feel anything at 8pm.... Michel 74 wagoneer > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:30:52 -0700 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: k9radio-at-att.net; fsj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: 5.6 SF? > > is a 5.6 magnitude earthquake in San Franscico a big deal? > > one just happend at 8:04pm... > > john > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook ^V together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971 033 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:32:12 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: FSJ mags, cheap slotted mags... kidney-bean??? where in the world did you come up with that? :) what an eclectic collection of tread... I saw the first tire and said "sweet"... maybe I'll work something out.... then I looked at the next one... cool, another good tire... then looked down again... and again... rats... :) that ought to make driving very interesting with all those different styles... :) the rims are easily worth that alone though... I have a set of Michelin LTX ATs and a set of Blizzaks installed on two sets of those for superdawg/omega... john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Tacoma White wrote: # Don't know if anyone's looking, but I ran across these 70's kidney-bean # mags while looking for some beater tires. Anyway, here's the ad: # # http://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/pts/456842599.html # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:54:11 +0000 From: michel balea Subject: RE: fsj: OT: Re: fuel prices! Same Altitude here.... never checked the destination coordinates..... 700 feet from the house to probably 150-200 feet at work... a breeze to go to work... it is all downhill, you kill your brakes because of the 4 way stop signs.... but the ride back after a day at work... will detect any blockage in your arteries... did it twice.... as for fuel prices... it was 3.09-3.39..... depending on brands.... in the sacramento valley.... Michel 74wag > Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:34:10 -0700 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: dan-at-black.org > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: fsj: OT: Re: fuel prices! > > problem with biking here isn't just the rain, it's the elevation > changes, traffic and 30 years and 30+ pounds... ;) > > I live at about 350 feet above sea level, work at 600... that's > not so bad in itself, it's just that one will go up and down at > various ranges between those two points at least 7 times in the > 10 miles... well, at least half of that will be mostly downhill, right? :) > > I missed my opportunity to bike this summer... of course we had > one day of summer, I think it was the week before last... ;) > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Dan Black wrote: > > # john said: > # {- Diesel is 3.79-3.84, gas 3.09-3.19 this morning... > # {- > # {- yikes. time to talk to my boss about compressed work > # {- week or virtual office... and consider riding my bike > # {- the 10 miles... well, that can wait until july... riding > # {- a bike in this area this time of year isn't high on my > # {- list of fun things to do. :) > # > # I started biking to work about six weeks ago, pretty much when the daily > # highs dropped to 80 and below. (I'm fine biking in heat as long as I'm > # in shorts and a t-shirt and can sweat; it's not good to be completely > # soaked when you get to work, though.) I don't bike in the rain (sounds > _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! 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SAFEWAY OpenHouse 2.94 unleaded... diesel was listed at 3.49... 3.59 at the shell... price dropped, unl was 3.09 there ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Alec Cordova wrote: # Just filled up on the way home in Round Rock, just north of Austin, at a # Chevron that's usually competitive, as far as brand name stations go: # # Regular - 2.819 # Plus - 2.899 # Premium - 2.999 (that's what my 89 gasser drinks, and they're sign showed # 3.059, but the pumps were still at 2.999) # ULSD Diesel - 3.199, or 3.159, sorry I don't remember which, but I'm not yet # back in a diesel. # # Alec # # > -----Original Message----- # > From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net # > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of Marc Z # > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 6:22 PM # > To: Jim Hoffman # > Cc: diesel-benz list # > Subject: Re: [db] fuel prices! # > # > # > Here in central NC: # > # > Reg. is $2.79, diesel is $3.07. # > # > Marc Z. # > # > Jim Hoffman wrote: # > > Holy Cow! Prices have jumped here too but not that # > > bad... Reg. is around $2.899 and I think diesel just # > > jumped from $3.159 where it had been for quite a few # > > weeks now to $3.259. # > > # > > Jim # > > # > > --- john wrote: # > > # > > # > >> Diesel is 3.79-3.84, gas 3.09-3.19 this morning... # > >> # > >> yikes. time to talk to my boss about compressed # > >> work # > >> week or virtual office... and consider riding my # > >> bike # > >> the 10 miles... well, that can wait until july... # > >> riding # > >> a bike in this area this time of year isn't high on # > >> my # > >> list of fun things to do. :) # > >> # > >> john # > >> # > >> ----- # > >> # > >> # > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > > # > >> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't # > >> rust, they mold # > >> http://freegift.com ** # > >> http://wagoneers.com ** # > >> # > >> # > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:46:43 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: fsj: FC trucks near Seattle for sale http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/pts/465823470.html#cooliris _________________________________________________________________ Boo! 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Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailne ws ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 23:33:17 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: FW: Eaton Springs - General Springs Question (fwd) I'll look at this tomorrow... john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lorri Dunlap Hi there - sorry to bother you but guess that is part of the internet thing. I've had a heck of a time w/ a set of springs for my 71 Wagoneer. My original stock springs were worn out and flat so a year back I decided to bit the bullet and get some new good ones. I went w/ Eaton and received a set w/ 3" lift. I had a local guy put them on and he said no way were these right - way too short. As you can see in the pics - the bracket is pulled all the way back to the frame. I talked w/ Eaton and they said their springs were to spec so my Jeep must be wrong. Not sure how that could be possible - it is all stock w/ no mods. Any idea in looking at this what's up? Just the wrong springs? Thanks for any info. Picture links http://www.flickr.com/photos/45113732-at-N00/sets/72157602833326464 Jay, Front springs w/3-inch lift 369.00 Rear springs w/3-inch lift 399.00 Front IK 54.95 Rear IK 54.95 Shipping 223.00 Total 1,100.90 Eaton Springs ========== 71 Jeep Wagoneer Front and Rear w/ 3" Lift All parts - bolts, bushings, ubolts etc. ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2947 **************************