From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Nov 27 16:35:55 2007 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, November 28 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2961 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: [db] alternatives to chains fsj: Re: [db] alternatives to chains fsj: I'm confused... fsj: could this be my first new car? FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:08:43 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] alternatives to chains yes... that's very much what I was thinking about... will look at how expensive... (it will probably be cheaper than driving one of my 4x4s 3,200 miles. ;) The '91 300D will probably average 35 mpg on the trip... the next best Jeep maybe 19 mpg... I've used chains once. 1978. not interested in repeating the experience. :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- there's a solution for every problem; problem is can we afford the solution? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 26 Nov 2007, Mike Frank wrote: # You're thinking of a Spikes Spider. Very expensive, but they do have the # virtue of being literally a snap to install. I believe they make an adapter # for Merc alloys. # # http://www.spikes-spiders.com/ # # Mike Frank # # At 04:47 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote: # >I'm pretty sure I've seen some gadget that attaches to the wheel via the # >lugnuts and you then attach this plastic tanged thing onto the hub and # >over the wheel... would work to get us over the pass and back down to # >the green side... # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:38:23 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] alternatives to chains actually I used a plastic snow chain, flat plastic strips... pretty easy to use... not really chains... not cables.... held up pretty well... had to use them to get to Fort Dix to ship out to Germany... ran into a really wet heavy snow in Pennsylvania in January... on my '68 Mustang... even had my carb ice up... :) a really fun trip... not. should have stayed in the hotel for the weekend instead of pushing on to base, ended up stuck in the barracks for the weekend... :( anyway, found the spider spikes for 195/65-15: http://www.spikes-spiders.com/catalog/view/category/425/ john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- there's a solution for every problem; problem is can we afford the solution? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 26 Nov 2007, Kevin wrote: # Cable chains are a lot easier to deal with than the chains you likely used # in 1978, John. # # That said, I hate chains and only have them because CHP says so and will # check you at a checkpoint to make sure you are carrying chains, regardless of # whether or not you are driving a 4x4 locked at both ends with a winch and # shoed with severe snow duty tires. And, they have to be the right size too. # # Always a crap shoot relying on the jeeps. I know, I have five. Fortunately # I have other 4x4s to choose from, granted not quite as capable as the jeeps. # # On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 02:10:43PM -0800, john wrote: # > ouch... hadn't gotten to the pricing part yet... found # > a used set for $295, not sure if they're the right size or not... can't # > remember what size tires are on my '91 300D. # > # > I have a set of cable chains... found them when cleaning out the trunk # > to swap vehicles with my daughter... to think I barely made it home # > during the last snow, in part because of worn tires... to think I could # > have popped those things on and driven home with ease. :) # > # > but then again, it's easier to pay attention to the weather and drive one # > of the Jeeps... if they're running. ;) # > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:54:01 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: I'm confused... it's 36 degrees outside... but the rain feels lumpy... and the grass up on the top of clearview is white... whazzup with that? ;) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- there's a solution for every problem; problem is can we afford the solution? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:35:25 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: could this be my first new car? just heard of a new VW, the Tiguan, coming out next year... a small SUV, not sure if it'll come out with the TDI right away... priced in the low 20's... Diesel, 4wd, automatic, sunroof and affordable pricing... will sell the fleet... ;) I've test driven a few Touregs, they're nice rigs but I'm not interested in a V10 Diesel (nor could I afford it!). this ought to be interesting... :) john http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- there's a solution for every problem; problem is can we afford the solution? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2961 **************************