From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Fri Jan 18 00:32:00 2008 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Friday, January 18 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2989 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: the nerve... fsj: adventures on I-5 fsj: OT - Patriot info? fsj: RE: OT - Patriot info? Re: fsj: RE: OT - Patriot info? FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:20:35 +0000 From: michel balea Subject: RE: fsj: the nerve... Too funny, 1 for english, 2 para espanol, and for french.... c'mon, the french and customer service.... Michel 74wag > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:57:07 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; bull-at-eskimo.com; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com > Subject: fsj: the nerve... > > I went to that site... from my friend from france who lives in the bay > area... and wouldn't you know... it's in FRENCH!!! what nerve! > > no "1" for english or spanish... imagine the nerve of those people to > only offer their language... :) > > http://www.controletechnique.info/points-de-controle-technique/pollution-nive au-sonore-10.html > > > > john > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > there's a solution for every problem; > problem is can we afford the solution? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Watch ^SCause Effect,^T a show about real people making a real difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:12:19 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: adventures on I-5 the continuing adventures on I-5... At this time, my son is north of Redding, CA, heading through the worst of the passes in the next few hours... hoping he'll make Medford, Oregon by 4pm/dark so he doesn't have to deal with the Siskiyous in the dark. Roads are clear but the temps are in the upper 20's at the highest point on I-5 (around 4,300 feet). After 4 years in the US Air Force he's a free man... driving a U-haul truck with car trailer carrying his '74 Javelin with a Ford 460. He should be home around midnight tonight (Thurs 17 Jan 2008). Tomorrow we try to pack 10lbs of crap into a 5lb bag... unload the truck and try to figure out where to put his stuff... should be loads of fun... Then, if there is time, we'll run down to Centralia to retrieve Omega (my '91 Grand Wag). Curtis is finished with it, but it's not running... still many little things left to do. He had it running briefly so there is hope of having it going this weekend. Then after Mark and I rebuild the carport we'll head back down to retrieve Superdawg (my '83 J10 stepside), by then curtis claims he'll have it reassembled enough to be towed home. Only seven years... another proof that outsourcing doesn't work... seems like my employer also learned this painful lesson... If you want something done, you need to do it yourself. I'm going to miss one of my grad school classes tomorrow... oh, so sad. ;) ONLY six more class sessions left until I'm done... graduate 16 Feb 2008!!! Will be nice to be done with it. Glad I did it. Embry Riddle Aeronautical University's Masters of Science in Technical Management degree program is excellent. I started out with a cohort of about 22 folks, the class is down to about 12 that have seen it through. Right at two full years. Every other weekend Friday evening and Saturday. I finished my tmcp project last year, so when this last class is done, I'm done... :) http://wagoneers.com/CS/XP_vs_LINUX.pdf If you're on I-5 north of Redding, keep your eyes open for a U-haul with black and white javelin on a car trailer... :) later, john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- there's a solution for every problem; problem is can we afford the solution? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:46:34 -0800 (PST) From: JeepNut Subject: fsj: OT - Patriot info? Hi all, Just wondering. I hadn't seen anyone talk about these Patriot Jeeps. I don't think Chrysler has done many favors to our beloved trucks so haven't paid much attention to any of them since about 2000. But I saw this Jeep today on the way home and it looked very "XJ like" in appearance. Once I got close enough it said Patriot on it. I've seen a lot of pics of broken transfer cases on Libertys and they're too small anyway. Anyone think a Patriot is worth any serious consideration? I don't know anything about lifting independent suspensions. Seems like it would be pretty complex and therfore $$$$. JeepNut - ---------------------------------------------------------- '92 Cherokee Laredo, bought new, still in daily use... '87 Street Comanche #24/100 '88 Grand Wagoneer - '81 AMC 360 -.030 over- Edelbrock Performer/1400 600cfm 4bbl, TFI System upgrade, TF727 -mild kit- NP229, D44's F/R -3:31- B.J.'s Offroad 6" kit/ drop pittman, stainless extended brake lines, ProComp 3000 shocks, Maxxis Buckshot 33x12.5x15 14 Spoke OEM Wagonwheels, IPF 65/55 lamps...and then some. - ---------------------------------------------------------- Registered Linux user #287453 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:55:27 -0800 From: "Joe" Subject: fsj: RE: OT - Patriot info? No solid axles = NO "serious consideration"! Actually the new '08 Liberty's look like XJ's too. They don't look bad too bad no solid front axle. :-( Joe H. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of JeepNut Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:47 PM To: xj-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net Subject: fsj: OT - Patriot info? Hi all, Just wondering. I hadn't seen anyone talk about these Patriot Jeeps. I don't think Chrysler has done many favors to our beloved trucks so haven't paid much attention to any of them since about 2000. But I saw this Jeep today on the way home and it looked very "XJ like" in appearance. Once I got close enough it said Patriot on it. I've seen a lot of pics of broken transfer cases on Libertys and they're too small anyway. Anyone think a Patriot is worth any serious consideration? I don't know anything about lifting independent suspensions. Seems like it would be pretty complex and therfore $$$$. JeepNut - ---------------------------------------------------------- '92 Cherokee Laredo, bought new, still in daily use... '87 Street Comanche #24/100 '88 Grand Wagoneer - '81 AMC 360 -.030 over- Edelbrock Performer/1400 600cfm 4bbl, TFI System upgrade, TF727 -mild kit- NP229, D44's F/R -3:31- B.J.'s Offroad 6" kit/ drop pittman, stainless extended brake lines, ProComp 3000 shocks, Maxxis Buckshot 33x12.5x15 14 Spoke OEM Wagonwheels, IPF 65/55 lamps...and then some. - ---------------------------------------------------------- Registered Linux user #287453 ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:31:26 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: RE: OT - Patriot info? why is it that people don't understand the problem of "no solid axles"? I get blank stares by most people when I gripe about what they've done to the jeeps... ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- there's a solution for every problem; problem is can we afford the solution? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Joe wrote: # No solid axles = NO "serious consideration"! # # Actually the new '08 Liberty's look like XJ's too. They don't look bad too # bad no solid front axle. :-( # # Joe H. # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of # JeepNut # Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:47 PM # To: xj-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net # Subject: fsj: OT - Patriot info? # # Hi all, # Just wondering. I hadn't seen anyone talk about these # Patriot Jeeps. I don't think Chrysler has done many # favors to our beloved trucks so haven't paid much # attention to any of them since about 2000. But I saw # this Jeep today on the way home and it looked very "XJ # like" in appearance. Once I got close enough it said # Patriot on it. # I've seen a lot of pics of broken transfer cases on # Libertys and they're too small anyway. Anyone think a # Patriot is worth any serious consideration? # I don't know anything about lifting independent # suspensions. Seems like it would be pretty complex # and therfore $$$$. # # # JeepNut # ---------------------------------------------------------- # '92 Cherokee Laredo, bought new, still in daily use... # '87 Street Comanche #24/100 # '88 Grand Wagoneer # - '81 AMC 360 -.030 over- Edelbrock Performer/1400 600cfm 4bbl, # TFI System upgrade, TF727 -mild kit- NP229, D44's F/R -3:31- # B.J.'s Offroad 6" kit/ drop pittman, stainless extended brake lines, # ProComp 3000 shocks, Maxxis Buckshot 33x12.5x15 # 14 Spoke OEM Wagonwheels, IPF 65/55 lamps...and then some. # ---------------------------------------------------------- # Registered Linux user #287453 # # # # ____________________________________________________________________________ # ________ # Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. # http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs # ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #2989 **************************