From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Fri Feb 15 22:44:25 2008 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Saturday, February 16 2008 Volume 01 : Number 3012 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: vehicle selling alternatives RE: fsj: vehicle selling alternatives fsj: Anyone need new tires? fsj: Helicoil Re: fsj: Helicoil fsj: reman injectors on ebay? RE: fsj: Helicoil RE: fsj: Helicoil RE: fsj: Helicoil Re: fsj: Helicoil RE: fsj: Helicoil FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:33:19 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: vehicle selling alternatives I've been considering other options to ebay with their new fee structure, it's just not affordable... $110 to sell a vehicle is insane. free here: http://www.mygofast.com/homepage.php and of course on craigslist... or $50 for an unlimited ad in most local papers or auto trader... I should figure out how to sell vehicles from my website... :) any ideas? john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:14:48 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: vehicle selling alternatives Jeepbay is too cheesy but would click easily. That was part of my reason for getting http://virtualjeep.com > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:33:19 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: xj-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com; fsj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: vehicle selling alternatives > > I've been considering other options to ebay with their new fee structure, > it's just not affordable... $110 to sell a vehicle is insane. > > free here: http://www.mygofast.com/homepage.php > and of course on craigslist... > > or $50 for an unlimited ad in most local papers or auto trader... > > I should figure out how to sell vehicles from my website... :) > any ideas? > > john > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:43:36 -0800 (PST) From: JeepNut Subject: fsj: Anyone need new tires? I hadn't seen this link bandied about before. I'm sure these are wAY more expensive a toy than I can afford but I'd love to have a set to play with. http://www.mattracks.com/index.htm If anyone has a Jeep with a set, how about some pictures?! JeepNut - ---------------------------------------------------------- '04 Grand Cherokee Laredo. Bone stock. It's hers. '92 Cherokee Laredo, bought new, still in daily use... '87 Street Comanche #24/100. In storage. '88 Grand Wagoneer - '81 AMC 360 -.030 over- Edelbrock Performer/1400 600cfm 4bbl, TFI System upgrade, TF727 -mild kit- NP229, D44's F/R -3:31- B.J.'s Offroad 6" kit/ drop pittman, stainless extended brake lines, ProComp 3000 shocks, Maxxis Buckshot 33x12.5x15 14 Spoke OEM Wagonwheels, IPF 65/55 lamps...and then some. - ---------------------------------------------------------- Registered Linux user #287453 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:56:10 +0000 From: michel balea Subject: fsj: Helicoil Not for a wagoneer.... but this list knows how to fix things. My bike blew a few valves (2 out of 4 on a single cylinder 1983 honda xr350).... and in the process of evaluating repairs, i discovered that one cylinder bolt had been helicoil... but the helicoil is coming out... not sure why, but i need help in fixing it. Last year after redoing the head gasket i noticed a weak bolt (could not torque past 24 needed 30)... but achieving 145 psi of compression.... did not try to figure it out. thank you Michel _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:25:21 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Seevers Subject: Re: fsj: Helicoil Michel, Is the helicoil pulling out or unscrewing out? - -brad - --- michel balea wrote: > Not for a wagoneer.... but this list knows how to > fix things. > > My bike blew a few valves (2 out of 4 on a single > cylinder 1983 honda > xr350).... and in the process of evaluating repairs, > i discovered that one > cylinder bolt had been helicoil... but the helicoil > is coming out... not sure > why, but i need help in fixing it. > > Last year after redoing the head gasket i noticed a > weak bolt (could not > torque past 24 needed 30)... but achieving 145 psi > of compression.... did not > try to figure it out. > > thank you > > Michel > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:51:00 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: reman injectors on ebay? found a source for reman injectors (6.2L Diesel) on ebay, wonder if this is a good deal: New Top Quality Bosch Nozzles!!! Not Reman Nozzles. Item number: 270211111419 I've seen his ads for years, has good feedback. I contacted a local Diesel shop I've worked with before, they want about $36/injector. Not sure if I need them or not... the shop charges around $400 for a rebuilt 6.2L pump... guess I need to do a compression test on my engine before I spend too much on injectors and a pump... but plan on having a spare... Found a few pumps on ebay for cheap... the plan is to carry a spare pump, injectors, glow plugs and starter... :) Omega... :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:54:57 +0000 From: michel balea Subject: RE: fsj: Helicoil Brad, Glad to read that you are still around. Unscrewing... and looking at it... it is a thin piece of double threaded metal... really cheesy. I think that is it pulling some of the threads w it.... looking deep inside the blind hole.... there are no visible threads. Yes i am really busy. Michel > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:25:21 -0800 > From: fsjbrad-at-yahoo.com > Subject: Re: fsj: Helicoil > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net > > Michel, > > Is the helicoil pulling out or unscrewing out? > > -brad > > --- michel balea wrote: > > > Not for a wagoneer.... but this list knows how to > > fix things. > > > > My bike blew a few valves (2 out of 4 on a single > > cylinder 1983 honda > > xr350).... and in the process of evaluating repairs, > > i discovered that one > > cylinder bolt had been helicoil... but the helicoil > > is coming out... not sure > > why, but i need help in fixing it. > > > > Last year after redoing the head gasket i noticed a > > weak bolt (could not > > torque past 24 needed 30)... but achieving 145 psi > > of compression.... did not > > try to figure it out. > > > > thank you > > > > Michel > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. > > > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail.-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:04:39 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Seevers Subject: RE: fsj: Helicoil Michel, Yes, I'm not dead yet! It sounds like it is not an actual Helicoil brand device, but a different brand similar device. As far as I know, all helicoil devices are a spring-like device you thread in and not a metal sleeve. I would try to remove the device and replace it with an actual helicoil brand device if possible. It may require re-threading the hole. Also, you could check helicoil's web site and they may have an email address you can send questions to? - -brad - --- michel balea wrote: > Brad, > > Glad to read that you are still around. > > Unscrewing... and looking at it... it is a thin > piece of double threaded > metal... really cheesy. > > I think that is it pulling some of the threads w > it.... looking deep inside > the blind hole.... there are no visible threads. Yes > i am really busy. > > Michel > > > > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:25:21 -0800 > > From: fsjbrad-at-yahoo.com > > Subject: Re: fsj: Helicoil > > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net > > > > Michel, > > > > Is the helicoil pulling out or unscrewing out? > > > > -brad > > > > --- michel balea wrote: > > > > > Not for a wagoneer.... but this list knows how > to > > > fix things. > > > > > > My bike blew a few valves (2 out of 4 on a > single > > > cylinder 1983 honda > > > xr350).... and in the process of evaluating > repairs, > > > i discovered that one > > > cylinder bolt had been helicoil... but the > helicoil > > > is coming out... not sure > > > why, but i need help in fixing it. > > > > > > Last year after redoing the head gasket i > noticed a > > > weak bolt (could not > > > torque past 24 needed 30)... but achieving 145 > psi > > > of compression.... did not > > > try to figure it out. > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > Michel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. > > > > > > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > _______ > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > _________________________________________________________________ > Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need > your Hotmail.-get your > "fix". > http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:39:56 +0000 From: michel balea Subject: RE: fsj: Helicoil Checked w a few searches.... it is a timesert http://www.timesert.com/ I am missing some metal as the timesert has dug out some metal as well.... Found a shop in town that is willing to take a look at it Michel > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:04:39 -0800 > From: fsjbrad-at-yahoo.com > Subject: RE: fsj: Helicoil > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net > > > Michel, > > Yes, I'm not dead yet! > > It sounds like it is not an actual Helicoil brand > device, but a different brand similar device. As far > as I know, all helicoil devices are a spring-like > device you thread in and not a metal sleeve. I would > try to remove the device and replace it with an actual > helicoil brand device if possible. It may require > re-threading the hole. Also, you could check > helicoil's web site and they may have an email address > you can send questions to? > > -brad > > --- michel balea wrote: > > > Brad, > > > > Glad to read that you are still around. > > > > Unscrewing... and looking at it... it is a thin > > piece of double threaded > > metal... really cheesy. > > > > I think that is it pulling some of the threads w > > it.... looking deep inside > > the blind hole.... there are no visible threads. Yes > > i am really busy. > > > > Michel > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:25:21 -0800 > > > From: fsjbrad-at-yahoo.com > > > Subject: Re: fsj: Helicoil > > > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net > > > > > > Michel, > > > > > > Is the helicoil pulling out or unscrewing out? > > > > > > -brad > > > > > > --- michel balea wrote: > > > > > > > Not for a wagoneer.... but this list knows how > > to > > > > fix things. > > > > > > > > My bike blew a few valves (2 out of 4 on a > > single > > > > cylinder 1983 honda > > > > xr350).... and in the process of evaluating > > repairs, > > > > i discovered that one > > > > cylinder bolt had been helicoil... but the > > helicoil > > > > is coming out... not sure > > > > why, but i need help in fixing it. > > > > > > > > Last year after redoing the head gasket i > > noticed a > > > > weak bolt (could not > > > > torque past 24 needed 30)... but achieving 145 > > psi > > > > of compression.... did not > > > > try to figure it out. > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > > Michel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > _______ > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > > > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need > > your Hotmail.-get your > > "fix". > > http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:36:30 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: Re: fsj: Helicoil when you say you look deep into the blind hole and see no threads, it depends on how long the bolt is as to whether or not the it needs threads completely down into the hole. (actually, you can't cut new threads *completely* to the bottom of the bore, simply because of the way the tap is made). the way helicoils are used is that you drill the original hole out bigger, tap new threads into the new hole, then thread in the Helicoil with some loktite on it so it stays put. the person who originally did the Helicoil may have drilled the hole a little deeper than needed, so that might be why the threads don't go all the way down. i'd check the bolt length first and see if there is a problem with the first remedy. it could be that the threads don't go down far enough, which would not allow the bolt to seat fully to the head, which would allow it to back out eventually. alsooooo.... Helicoils aren't all that "tall." if the bolts you're using have a lot of thread length engagement, then it may not be getting the full amount of threads needed for it to stay put, either. all-in-all, Helicoils aren't bad things. they're GREAT when you're in a pickle. they just need to be done right to be able to get good results. Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Seevers" To: "michel balea" ; "fsj digest" Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 6:04 PM Subject: RE: fsj: Helicoil > Michel, > > Yes, I'm not dead yet! > > It sounds like it is not an actual Helicoil brand > device, but a different brand similar device. As far > as I know, all helicoil devices are a spring-like > device you thread in and not a metal sleeve. I would > try to remove the device and replace it with an actual > helicoil brand device if possible. It may require > re-threading the hole. Also, you could check > helicoil's web site and they may have an email address > you can send questions to? > > -brad > > --- michel balea wrote: > > > Brad, > > > > Glad to read that you are still around. > > > > Unscrewing... and looking at it... it is a thin > > piece of double threaded > > metal... really cheesy. > > > > I think that is it pulling some of the threads w > > it.... looking deep inside > > the blind hole.... there are no visible threads. Yes > > i am really busy. > > > > Michel > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:25:21 -0800 > > > From: fsjbrad-at-yahoo.com > > > Subject: Re: fsj: Helicoil > > > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net > > > > > > Michel, > > > > > > Is the helicoil pulling out or unscrewing out? > > > > > > -brad > > > > > > --- michel balea wrote: > > > > > > > Not for a wagoneer.... but this list knows how > > to > > > > fix things. > > > > > > > > My bike blew a few valves (2 out of 4 on a > > single > > > > cylinder 1983 honda > > > > xr350).... and in the process of evaluating > > repairs, > > > > i discovered that one > > > > cylinder bolt had been helicoil... but the > > helicoil > > > > is coming out... not sure > > > > why, but i need help in fixing it. > > > > > > > > Last year after redoing the head gasket i > > noticed a > > > > weak bolt (could not > > > > torque past 24 needed 30)... but achieving 145 > > psi > > > > of compression.... did not > > > > try to figure it out. > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > > Michel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ _ > > _______ > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > > > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need > > your Hotmail.-get your > > "fix". > > http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:40:49 +0000 From: michel balea Subject: RE: fsj: Helicoil Those are timesert, not helicoil, and what i can see is the chewing of the side. Yes they are not that deep, may be 1" at most.... which is what the other "native" threads show. There is another 1.5" of hollowness for the rest of the bore. Found a shop that is willing to take a look at it... in fact better, one of the "workers" not a guy behind a desk, but behind the curtain of a welding jig is eager to take a look. This is a production shop, and they have to fix their own gigs sometimes. It is funny to see what you find when you push doors in the industrial part of town.... this is prime real estate area, the warmest part of town, give it 10 years, this will be luxury condo areas, not landfill, and way above sea level..... thank you for the educational review (seriously) Michel > From: proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net > To: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: fsj: Helicoil > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:36:30 -0500 > > when you say you look deep into the blind hole and see no threads, it > depends on how long the bolt is as to whether or not the it needs threads > completely down into the hole. (actually, you can't cut new threads > *completely* to the bottom of the bore, simply because of the way the tap is > made). > the way helicoils are used is that you drill the original hole out bigger, > tap new threads into the new hole, then thread in the Helicoil with some > loktite on it so it stays put. > the person who originally did the Helicoil may have drilled the hole a > little deeper than needed, so that might be why the threads don't go all the > way down. i'd check the bolt length first and see if there is a problem > with the first remedy. it could be that the threads don't go down far > enough, which would not allow the bolt to seat fully to the head, which > would allow it to back out eventually. > alsooooo.... Helicoils aren't all that "tall." if the bolts you're using > have a lot of thread length engagement, then it may not be getting the full > amount of threads needed for it to stay put, either. > > all-in-all, Helicoils aren't bad things. they're GREAT when you're in a > pickle. they just need to be done right to be able to get good results. > > Neal A. Hoover > Project '76 J-10 > Project '96 XJ > http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Seevers" > To: "michel balea" ; "fsj digest" > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 6:04 PM > Subject: RE: fsj: Helicoil > > > > Michel, > > > > Yes, I'm not dead yet! > > > > It sounds like it is not an actual Helicoil brand > > device, but a different brand similar device. As far > > as I know, all helicoil devices are a spring-like > > device you thread in and not a metal sleeve. I would > > try to remove the device and replace it with an actual > > helicoil brand device if possible. It may require > > re-threading the hole. Also, you could check > > helicoil's web site and they may have an email address > > you can send questions to? > > > > -brad > > > > --- michel balea wrote: > > > > > Brad, > > > > > > Glad to read that you are still around. > > > > > > Unscrewing... and looking at it... it is a thin > > > piece of double threaded > > > metal... really cheesy. > > > > > > I think that is it pulling some of the threads w > > > it.... looking deep inside > > > the blind hole.... there are no visible threads. Yes > > > i am really busy. > > > > > > Michel > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:25:21 -0800 > > > > From: fsjbrad-at-yahoo.com > > > > Subject: Re: fsj: Helicoil > > > > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net > > > > > > > > Michel, > > > > > > > > Is the helicoil pulling out or unscrewing out? > > > > > > > > -brad > > > > > > > > --- michel balea wrote: > > > > > > > > > Not for a wagoneer.... but this list knows how > > > to > > > > > fix things. > > > > > > > > > > My bike blew a few valves (2 out of 4 on a > > > single > > > > > cylinder 1983 honda > > > > > xr350).... and in the process of evaluating > > > repairs, > > > > > i discovered that one > > > > > cylinder bolt had been helicoil... but the > > > helicoil > > > > > is coming out... not sure > > > > > why, but i need help in fixing it. > > > > > > > > > > Last year after redoing the head gasket i > > > noticed a > > > > > weak bolt (could not > > > > > torque past 24 needed 30)... but achieving 145 > > > psi > > > > > of compression.... did not > > > > > try to figure it out. > > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > > > > Michel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _ > > > _______ > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > > > > > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need > > > your Hotmail.-get your > > > "fix". > > > http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail.-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3012 **************************