From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Mar 18 15:54:13 2008 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Tuesday, March 18 2008 Volume 01 : Number 3031 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: [db] Diesel prices worldwide? fsj: Re: Diesel prices worldwide? fsj: Re: [db] Diesel prices worldwide? fsj: Re: [db] Diesel prices worldwide? fsj: Omega update fsj: mark your calendar... fsj: Re: [db] mark your calendar... fsj: international holiday? RE: fsj: Re: [db] mark your calendar... RE: fsj: Re: [db] mark your calendar... RE: fsj: Re: [db] mark your calendar... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:27:19 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] Diesel prices worldwide? actually, $ 7.26/gallon country date local price dollar value Diesel/ltr Diesel/gal Paraguay 3/17/2008 $0.91 $3.44 Ireland - Euro 3/17/2008 1.22 1.57292 $1.92 $7.26 ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # 1.22euro here in Ireland (*http://tinyurl.com/3xrlo4) *to the litre = # 3.79litres to the US Gallon.. so # 4.62euros = 7.194USD a gallon.. # Steve # # On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:15 AM, john wrote: # # > Diesel is at $4.13 - 4.15 now... # > saw it for $3.99 at a safeway in Everett.... # > # > what is Diesel costing elsewhere in the WORLD??? Europe? Australia? # > # > (don't care as much about gas, but would like to know... it's about $3.51 # > here) # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:35:29 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: Diesel prices worldwide? country Diesel/ltr Diesel/gal Paraguay $0.91 $3.44 Washington state $1.09 $4.14 Ireland - Euro $1.92 $7.26 Nederland - Euro $1.95 $7.38 Germany - Euro $2.09 $7.91 Let's see, if I bring my '91 Grand Wagoneer over to Germany and fill up both tanks it'll cost me $316.52. Would 'only' cost me $165.56 to tank up here... of course I should be able to drive about 800 miles on that 40 gallons though... :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:09:15 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] Diesel prices worldwide? ah, but today is St. Patty's day... much better. :) so, what was yesterdays value? ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # Ah thats cheating John, heh, thats Monday's USD value, try it with Sunday's # ;-) # Steve # # On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:27 PM, john wrote: # # > actually, $ 7.26/gallon # > # > country date local price dollar value Diesel/ltr Diesel/gal # > Paraguay 3/17/2008 $0.91 $3.44 # > Ireland - Euro 3/17/2008 1.22 1.57292 $1.92 $7.26 # > # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # > # > # 1.22euro here in Ireland (*http://tinyurl.com/3xrlo4) *to the litre = # > # 3.79litres to the US Gallon.. so # > # 4.62euros = 7.194USD a gallon.. # > # Steve # > # # > # On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:15 AM, john wrote: # > # # > # > Diesel is at $4.13 - 4.15 now... # > # > saw it for $3.99 at a safeway in Everett.... # > # > # > # > what is Diesel costing elsewhere in the WORLD??? Europe? Australia? # > # > # > # > (don't care as much about gas, but would like to know... it's about # > $3.51 # > # > here) # > # > # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > # > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:39:58 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] Diesel prices worldwide? sounds like ya got a wee bit of the irish in ya... ;) so, was his death in 461 or 493??? ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # I'll have a look tomorrow, I mightn't be the mosht ackurate -at- 10:30pm on # Scht.Patrick'sh day ;-) # Schumthin like 1.55 Vs 1.57 to the uero # Steve # # On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:09 PM, john wrote: # # > ah, but today is St. Patty's day... much better. :) # > # > so, what was yesterdays value? # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # > # > # Ah thats cheating John, heh, thats Monday's USD value, try it with # > Sunday's # > # ;-) # > # Steve # > # # > # On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:27 PM, john wrote: # > # # > # > actually, $ 7.26/gallon # > # > # > # > country date local price dollar value Diesel/ltr # > Diesel/gal # > # > Paraguay 3/17/2008 $0.91 $3.44 # > # > Ireland - Euro 3/17/2008 1.22 1.57292 $1.92 $7.26 # > # > # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > # > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > # > # > # > On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # > # > # > # > # 1.22euro here in Ireland (*http://tinyurl.com/3xrlo4) *to the # > litre = # > # > # 3.79litres to the US Gallon.. so # > # > # 4.62euros = 7.194USD a gallon.. # > # > # Steve # > # > # # > # > # On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:15 AM, john wrote: # > # > # # > # > # > Diesel is at $4.13 - 4.15 now... # > # > # > saw it for $3.99 at a safeway in Everett.... # > # > # > # > # > # > what is Diesel costing elsewhere in the WORLD??? Europe? # > Australia? # > # > # > # > # > # > (don't care as much about gas, but would like to know... it's # > about # > # > $3.51 # > # > # > here) # > # > # > # > # > # > john # > # > # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > # > # > # > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they # > mold # > # > # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > # > # > # > # > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > # > # > # # > # # > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:44:26 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Omega update my son helped me bleed the injectors tonight... still didn't start. so, decided to take a section of clear line and put it on the inlet to the pump on the passenger side... on the output of the primary filter... (the line goes into the secondary filter) Then I cranked a bit... whazz this? no fuel? empty... hey, it won't work that way... :) So I put the electric pump between the clear line and the output of the primary filter, jumpered it and filled the line... cranked and started to bleed the injectors again, but really need a 2nd person... tomorrow... I'm thinking that the lift pump has departed this life... the electric pump I have is a leftover from the Chevy Luv Buick 3.8L project and not worthy of a fine Diesel project... :) It sounds pretty pathetic pushing the good stuff anyway. :) the failure of the lift pump would explain the problem we had the last time we ran it too... :) I like it when there are logical explanations... I picked up a used injection pump off of craigslist just in case... have 7 spare injectors that sort of work, a dead vacuum pump as a spare and now an unknown injection pump... building up my spares collection... or adding ballast. :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:20:45 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: mark your calendar... On March 18, 1858, German mechanical engineer Rudolf Diesel, the inventor of the Diesel engine, was born in Paris. :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:48:47 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] mark your calendar... no, no, no... he was GERMAN, his dad was WORKING in Paris, he was NOT, never was, never will be, a Frenchman... I should have clarified that news item. He was 100% GERMAN. Ist das klar? :) Turns out that one of my wife's ancestors was also born in France, but they are German as well... must be something in the water. ;) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Jim Hoffman wrote: # Oh, great, he's a Frenchman... That must just make # you go batty John... I can see the internal struggle # now... Diesel good, French bad, Diesel good, French # bad, etc... # # ;) # # / # # --- john wrote: # # > On March 18, 1858, German mechanical engineer Rudolf # > Diesel, the inventor of the # > Diesel engine, was born in Paris. # > # > :) # > john # > # > ----- # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't # > rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** # > http://wagoneers.com ** # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:38:50 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: international holiday? perhaps today should be made an international holiday? :) Rudolf Christian Karl Diesel Day HOW IT ALL STARTED - --------------------- March 18, 1858, Paris, France, a German couple had a baby boy and they named him Rudolf Christian Karl Diesel. On February 28, 1892 Imperial German Patent #67207 was issued for an internal combustion engine using compression ignition. On Feburary 17, 1897 a 250mm x 400mm engine produced 13.1kw of power during a successful test. Even this early prototype was 26.2% efficient! This was a significant milestone in engine technology. During that time a steam engine was at best about 18% efficient! On July 16, 1895 US Patent #542,846 was issued on the Diesel Engine. In spite of it's efficiency and potential Rudolf and his business enterprise was in serious financial straits and on September 29, 1913 while crossing the English Channel Rudolf threw himself into the frigid waters. What is tragic is that with the onset of World War I his invention became immensly popular and continues to be popular even today. ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:37:09 +0000 From: michel balea Subject: RE: fsj: Re: [db] mark your calendar... Hummmmm, if is dad was born in France, he was a full fledge frenchman... and therefore Diesel is partly french.... and ANOTHER VICTORY of french engineering..... sorry i could not resist! And no, i am not driving a french car, nor a french moto, not even a peugeot cycle in the garage..... I would not mind a 404 convertible.... nice looking but body styling was done by an italian company, Pininfarina. cheers Michel > Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:48:47 -0700 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: jslash-at-sbcglobal.net > CC: fsj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: Re: [db] mark your calendar... > > no, no, no... he was GERMAN, his dad was WORKING in Paris, > he was NOT, never was, never will be, a Frenchman... > > I should have clarified that news item. He was 100% GERMAN. > > Ist das klar? :) > > Turns out that one of my wife's ancestors was also born in > France, but they are German as well... must be something > in the water. ;) > > john > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > # Oh, great, he's a Frenchman... That must just make > # you go batty John... I can see the internal struggle > # now... Diesel good, French bad, Diesel good, French > # bad, etc... > # > # ;) > # > # / > # > # --- john wrote: > # > # > On March 18, 1858, German mechanical engineer Rudolf > # > Diesel, the inventor of the > # > Diesel engine, was born in Paris. > # > > # > :) > # > john > # > > # > ----- > # > > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't > # > rust, they mold > # > http://freegift.com ** > # > http://wagoneers.com ** > # > > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > > # _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:49:02 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: Re: [db] mark your calendar... being born in france does not make you a french man any more than being born in a mcdonalds makes you a cheeseburger. :) it does impart certain legal rights and benefits, but as with most kids born abroad or out of the country they get their parents nationality... so he's German... through and through. :) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, michel balea wrote: # Hummmmm, if is dad was born in France, he was a full fledge frenchman... and # therefore Diesel is partly french.... and ANOTHER VICTORY of french # engineering..... sorry i could not resist! # # And no, i am not driving a french car, nor a french moto, not even a peugeot # cycle in the garage..... I would not mind a 404 convertible.... nice looking # but body styling was done by an italian company, Pininfarina. # # cheers # # Michel # # > Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:48:47 -0700 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: jslash-at-sbcglobal.net # > CC: fsj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net # > Subject: fsj: Re: [db] mark your calendar... # > # > no, no, no... he was GERMAN, his dad was WORKING in Paris, # > he was NOT, never was, never will be, a Frenchman... # > # > I should have clarified that news item. He was 100% GERMAN. # > # > Ist das klar? :) # > # > Turns out that one of my wife's ancestors was also born in # > France, but they are German as well... must be something # > in the water. ;) # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Jim Hoffman wrote: # > # > # Oh, great, he's a Frenchman... That must just make # > # you go batty John... I can see the internal struggle # > # now... Diesel good, French bad, Diesel good, French # > # bad, etc... # > # # > # ;) # > # # > # / # > # # > # --- john wrote: # > # # > # > On March 18, 1858, German mechanical engineer Rudolf # > # > Diesel, the inventor of the # > # > Diesel engine, was born in Paris. # > # > # > # > :) # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't # > # > rust, they mold # > # > http://freegift.com ** # > # > http://wagoneers.com ** # > # > # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > # # # _________________________________________________________________ # Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. # http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:47:39 -0700 From: "Tesar Landon" Subject: RE: fsj: Re: [db] mark your calendar... LOL! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of michel balea Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 2:37 PM To: john; Jim Hoffman Cc: full size jeep list; diesel-benz list Subject: RE: fsj: Re: [db] mark your calendar... Hummmmm, if is dad was born in France, he was a full fledge frenchman... and therefore Diesel is partly french.... and ANOTHER VICTORY of french engineering..... sorry i could not resist! And no, i am not driving a french car, nor a french moto, not even a peugeot cycle in the garage..... I would not mind a 404 convertible.... nice looking but body styling was done by an italian company, Pininfarina. cheers Michel > Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:48:47 -0700 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: jslash-at-sbcglobal.net > CC: fsj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: Re: [db] mark your calendar... > > no, no, no... he was GERMAN, his dad was WORKING in Paris, > he was NOT, never was, never will be, a Frenchman... > > I should have clarified that news item. He was 100% GERMAN. > > Ist das klar? :) > > Turns out that one of my wife's ancestors was also born in > France, but they are German as well... must be something > in the water. ;) > > john > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > # Oh, great, he's a Frenchman... That must just make > # you go batty John... I can see the internal struggle > # now... Diesel good, French bad, Diesel good, French > # bad, etc... > # > # ;) > # > # / > # > # --- john wrote: > # > # > On March 18, 1858, German mechanical engineer Rudolf > # > Diesel, the inventor of the > # > Diesel engine, was born in Paris. > # > > # > :) > # > john > # > > # > ----- > # > > # - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't > # > rust, they mold > # > http://freegift.com ** > # > http://wagoneers.com ** > # > > # - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > > # _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012 008 ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3031 **************************