From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Mar 24 14:54:12 2008 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, March 24 2008 Volume 01 : Number 3036 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: exide battery explosion... fsj: battery rethink... fsj: fotos fsj: Transmission Acting funny Turbo 400 FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:06:37 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: Re: fsj: exide battery explosion... Sounds like something was either putting a big drain on the battery or it was overcharged (I dislike all side post batteries except the Orbitals) When the acid gets low and a plate shorts out, or something causes a spark near the battery soon after it was running, the hydrogen gas is ignited and POP! goes the battery! Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 From: john Subject: fsj: exide battery explosion... one of the batteries on omega exploded last night... came out this morning and saw a plastic cap under the jeep... flipped it over and it was the top of the battery. puddle of fluid, suspect battery acid... of course there is Diesel and bioDiesel on the floor too from priming... lovely mess... :) where's my kitty litter? they are exide batteries, not sure where my friend bought them... they're side post units, that's what GM did with the Diesels, 5.7 and 6.2, but I'm not a fan of those wimpy 8mm bolts holding the cables to the batteries... I think I'm going to get the gel cell top posts and lay them on their sides in those battery trays. Also might move the trays back a bit so I can get nerf bars / side rails attached. I think that one of the batteries was defective all along... this thing has never cranked right... and the automatic battery charger was always running after it was charged up... was thinking that my alarm system was bad or something was drawing current... and if I left the battery charger off the battery wasn't good... so I suspect that one of these batteries, the one that exploded (my first clue) was bad all along. So, I think I'm going to head over to interstate and pick up a couple of large gel cell top posts and change over the connectors. will return the two exides later... not a problem having extra batteries around. :) I'm also thinking that I'm going to put a small battery in the original location with an isolator and use that for the lights and the alarm system so my main batteries aren't used except for starting. I did this on my '85 XJ turbo Diesel as well, worked out well, was even able to jump start myself. ;) I have an older gel cell that might work... two steps backward, one forward... :) need to change the oil on my '91 300D... picked up the oil yesterday... john _________________________________________________________________ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_ realtime_042008 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:24:32 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: battery rethink... currently my batteries are on the frame behind the wheels, on the frame rails. the trays are a little too far forward to clear rock sliders... also, noticed that the battery on the driver's side has a long cable run over to the other battery and just one cable then goes to the starter... there is a line that goes up to a relay for the glow plugs, but I can run that up the passenger side and over... so, what I'm thinking is that I'll move both trays to the passenger side and back a little bit further to allow the installation of nerf bars and elminate a long wire run across the underside of the body. in other words, Omega will be off line for a bit longer. ;) tomorrow is Easter... my daughter is preparing dinner for us at her place, so I'll be off line and off the wrenches... :) remember, the reason for the season has nothing to do with rabbits, but everything to do with Jesus rising... hope you know the real easter story. pictures of the swans, blown battery and spring shortly... :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:15:31 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: fotos http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/03-Mar-22-swans-battery-mtns-spring/ pictures of swans in the Snohomish valley (including a movie, recommend sound off, unless you like highway noise) pictures of birds around the yard... pictures of mountains, a few garden shots... mountains were beautiful today. pictures of the 6.2L Diesel in my '91 Grand Wagoneer, and the exploded exide battery john ----- happy easter... remember the reason for the season is Jesus... - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:46:59 -0500 From: Zee Man Subject: fsj: Transmission Acting funny Turbo 400 Gurus, I had a 360 originally in cherokee. i always thought it was shifting alittle early and really wanted to reprogram the shift points.. Anyway i swapped in a 401 and now the thing is acting as if it has a mild stall convertor and my wshift points are a hair high for a cherokee. i want to say it shifts outta first above 15 mph under no load. also when i let off the gas at speed it goes down to idle till i step on the gas again.. My fluid level is fine, i blew out with compressed air my transmission lines during the install... anyway i would like to lower my shift points about 500 rpm or so from what they aree now... Any Ideas Bob 1978 Cherokee Chief AUTO _________________________________________________________________ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_ realtime_042008 ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3036 **************************