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fsj-digest Thursday, April 24 2008 Volume 01 : Number 3062
Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps
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Contents:
RE: fsj: more pictures
RE: fsj: more pictures
fsj: Adventures of the Golden Brick: Carburetor
RE: fsj: more pictures
Re: fsj: more pictures
fsj: Adventures of the Golden Brick: Roof rack
RE: fsj: more pictures
RE: fsj: Adventures of the Golden Brick: Roof rack
Re: fsj: Adventures of the Golden Brick: Roof rack
fsj: xfr case speedo gears - 3% per tooth
fsj: projects, green house gases and fotos
RE: fsj: Re: Help to Italian Grand Wagoneer (fwd)
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:17:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: more pictures
speedo gear... do you know if the np207/np242/np219 gears are
interchangeable? I have a bucket full of 'em from those xfr cases... somewhere. :)
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Jim Blair wrote:
# You mean change the speedo drive gear or put a lower range tcase in? <G> (That's what I have for my '84 J10)
#
#
# haven't checked the tire pressure yet, they probably set it
# to 50psi... going to regear the xfr case, adjust my aux tank
# fuel gauge and rebuild my carport before I start driving it again.
#
# at $4.50/gal for Diesel I'll be driving my Benz until I get
# some more bioDiesel... and before I start using it I need to fix
# my aux fuel gauge. :)
#
# john
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:15:35 -0700
From: Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: more pictures
Don't you have a NP208 in there?
> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:17:56 -0700
> From: john-at-wagoneers.com
> To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com
> CC: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; xj-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net
> Subject: RE: fsj: more pictures
>
> speedo gear... do you know if the np207/np242/np219 gears are
> interchangeable? I have a bucket full of 'em from those xfr cases...
somewhere. :)
>
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:14:33 -0700
From: griggy-at-dslnorthwest.net
Subject: fsj: Adventures of the Golden Brick: Carburetor
Thanks a bunch! I had a real Duh moment when I realized that I had
cruised their catalog about two days before I tore the carb. off the
motor.
This is why you join mailing lists...
GAS
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:41:17 +0000
From: michel balea <mbalea-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: Adventures of the Golden Brick: Carburetor
Napa has them.... it was $15 10 years ago..... but you may need the thick
fiber insulator and that was $7....BJ's should have them..... they do and the
prices are the same.....
http://www.bjsoffroad.com/cartgenie/prodList.asp?scat=28
Michel
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:58:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: more pictures
no, np228.
i have a 208 in my j10, a 219 in my carport and in centralia. :)
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Jim Blair wrote:
#
#
Don't you have a NP208 in there?
#
# > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:17:56 -0700
# > From: john-at-wagoneers.com
# > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com
# > CC: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; xj-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net
# > Subject: RE: fsj: more pictures
# >
# > speedo gear... do you know if the np207/np242/np219 gears are
# > interchangeable? I have a bucket full of 'em from those xfr cases... somewhere. :)
# >
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:36:33 CDT
From: Dan Black <dan-at-black.org>
Subject: Re: fsj: more pictures
john <john-at-wagoneers.com> said:
{- http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/04-Apr-22-Omega-tires-birds/ALL.html
{- took some more this afternoon and added them...
{- tires passed the wife and son test... ;)
Hmm, they still look a _little_ small for that lift, but much better
than before.
I have Yokohamas on my car; got them a year ago. They've been working
very nicely so far. Though those are for street use, of course, and I
don't drive the car in the winter (mostly to avoid salt).
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:52:33 -0700
From: "Gregg A. Schwabauer" <griggy-at-dslnorthwest.net>
Subject: fsj: Adventures of the Golden Brick: Roof rack
Should I invest the time and money resealing and reattaching the stock
roof rack, which looks neat, or would I be better off removing it and
attaching a pair of 60" Yakima rails to the roof?
I know Yakima (and Thule) make adapters that you can clamp to the cross
bars that then allow the use of their stuff.
Too bad the stuff only comes in black and not chromed!
GAS
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:28:05 -0700
From: Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: more pictures
I know 208, 219, 119, 228, 128, 229 and 129 interchange. Haven't compared them
to XJ case gears.
Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:58:09 -0700
> From: john-at-wagoneers.com
> To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com
> CC: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; xj-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net
> Subject: RE: fsj: more pictures
>
> no, np228.
>
> i have a 208 in my j10, a 219 in my carport and in centralia. :)
>
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>
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Jim Blair wrote:
>
> #
> #
>
> Don't you have a NP208 in there?
> #
> # > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:17:56 -0700
> # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com
> # > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com
> # > CC: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; xj-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net
> # > Subject: RE: fsj: more pictures
> # >
> # > speedo gear... do you know if the np207/np242/np219 gears are
> # > interchangeable? I have a bucket full of 'em from those xfr cases...
somewhere. :)
> # >
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:35:58 -0700
From: Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: Adventures of the Golden Brick: Roof rack
I took down the ceiling panels (didn't take much as they were shot anyways)
and put fender washers with locknuts and sealer (to keep the water out) on the
inside. Made the roof rack MUCH stronger and safer!
Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:52:33 -0700
> From: griggy-at-dslnorthwest.net
> To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net
> Subject: fsj: Adventures of the Golden Brick: Roof rack
>
> Should I invest the time and money resealing and reattaching the stock
> roof rack, which looks neat, or would I be better off removing it and
> attaching a pair of 60" Yakima rails to the roof?
>
> I know Yakima (and Thule) make adapters that you can clamp to the cross
> bars that then allow the use of their stuff.
>
> Too bad the stuff only comes in black and not chromed!
>
> GAS
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:02:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: Re: fsj: Adventures of the Golden Brick: Roof rack
you will need to replace the well nuts... you'll need to leave
something up there to seal those holes, might as well be the stock rack,
the yakima can fit over it it.
john
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Gregg A. Schwabauer wrote:
# Should I invest the time and money resealing and reattaching the stock roof
# rack, which looks neat, or would I be better off removing it and attaching a
# pair of 60" Yakima rails to the roof?
#
# I know Yakima (and Thule) make adapters that you can clamp to the cross bars
# that then allow the use of their stuff.
#
# Too bad the stuff only comes in black and not chromed!
#
# GAS
#
#
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:05:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: xfr case speedo gears - 3% per tooth
excellent, will find out when I crawl underneath.
I know that by playing around with both xj and sj xfr cases
that each tooth represents about 3% of speedo change... since
my tire change is about two tire sizes that I need about 6% of change,
or two teeth...
john
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Jim Blair wrote:
# I know 208, 219, 119, 228, 128, 229 and 129 interchange. Haven't compared them to XJ case gears.
#
# Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:17:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: projects, green house gases and fotos
Drove the '91 300D today... Parked the '91 Grand Wagoneer for a bit as I
need to fix the fuel gauge to the aux tank, swap out the speedo gear in the
xfr case, hoping that my collection of XJ gears will have the correct count. :)
Still need to deal with the spring rate issue, too stiff...
but, planning on rebuilding the carport next, so will be driving the Benz
for a while I guess, at least until I get the odometer and fuel gauge setup...
I am happy that this last tank netted 18.82mpg... encouraging... making
progress, but getting tired of building my own...
(real Jeeps are built, not bought???)
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GREEN HOUSE GASES?
hey, saw a green house gas calculator... it's claiming that the average
american is creating 20,750 lbs of carbon dioxide per person per year.
That's 56.85 lbs per day... ?
looking at some of their extrapolations/calculations
I noticed that they 12,100 lbs/vehicle per year, based on 231 miles per week...
In this calculator you place your auto mileage... in order to get their
stated average one would have to get about 13 mpg (12,253 lbs).
The calculator has a number of other limitations and issues; will search for
one on line... the premise and data seem somewhat flawed to me. I am extremely
skeptical of this data and it's interpretation. We are too eager to accept
this as fact without questioning it. (if you haven't seen the Ben Stein
movie Expelled, I recommend it, different subject than this one, but the
underlying thought process appears related!)
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updated the page for the Omega project.
http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/
http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/8_Links_to_more_History.html
other current fotos at: http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/
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Article I hear about coming out on the 24th:
787 fotos:
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/fortune/0804/gallery.boeing_dreamliner.fortune/index.html
Video Link:
http://money.cnn.com/video/ft/#/video/fortune/2008/04/21/fortune.500.boeing.fortune.
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:56:22 +0000
From: michel balea <mbalea-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: Re: Help to Italian Grand Wagoneer (fwd)
Some different measurements.... alas, using a centimeter measuring tape, no
conversion.
ref number on the dipstick 3224880 stamped starting at 11 cm from the dipstick
tip (oil side)
total dipstick length from tip to curved handle 65.4 cm
from tip to stopper 51.4 cm (The stopper being the part that will be outside
the dipstick tube) The stopper covers the end of the dipstick tube.
from tip to ADD level stamped w 8 (2 zeros stamped accross) 5.7 cm
from tip to FULL level stamped with 8 (2 zeros stamped accross before the
"Full" engraving) 7.0 cm
so you see this
ADD 8 8 FULL
Pict to be sent if needed
This is on the 85 project.
Good Luck
Michel
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:43:18 -0700
> From: john-at-wagoneers.com
> To: fsj-at-digest.net
> Subject: fsj: Re: Help to Italian Grand Wagoneer (fwd)
>
> fyi, we think we've figured out that Luca
> is referring to the dipstick.
>
> john
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: stef <s.sliedrecht8-at-upcmail.nl>
>
> Hi Luca,
>
> I give you the length of the dipstick in MY WAGONEER,
>
> length of the bar from the tip to the stopper 60
> centimeter
> distance in cm from the tip to the sign of LOW OIL 5,6 cm (Add)
> distance in cm from the tip to the sign of SAVE 7 cm
>
> distance in cm from LOW OIL to FULL OIL 1,4 cm (Save)
> distance between ADD to SAVE
>
> This are the measurements on my Wagoneer, so wait for the measures from
> the other guys, and see if they have the same values.
> Maybe not all the dipsticks are the samilar.
>
> Stef
>
> http://wagoneers.com/XJ/rigs/Stef-NL-93/
> www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/NL-Stef
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MIDWAYadv" <campo-at-midwayadv.com>
> To: "john" <john-at-wagoneers.com>
> Cc: "Stef" <stef.dolly-at-chello.nl>; "Terje Bergskaug" <abergsk-at-online.no>;
> "Tommy
> Lovsund" <heinkeltommy-at-hotmail.com>; "Antti-Ville Nauha"
> <Antti-Ville.Nauha-at-kemira.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:39 AM
> Subject: Re: Help to Italian Grand Wagoneer
>
>
> > Excuse me.
> > The grand Wagoneer is of march of 1988
> > The bar of steel for check control of oil in the Automatic Transmission.
> > I fear that mine is not original why when it says to me that itis
> > full, in truth is little oil.
> > I have need of these data:
> > 1) Length of the bar from the tip to the stopper
> > 2) distance in cm from the tip to the sign of LOW OIL
> > 3) distance in cm from LOW OIL to FULL OIL
> >
> > The foto is for example
> >
> >
>
>
>
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> ---
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Il giorno 17/apr/08, alle ore 07:36, john ha scritto:
> > what year is your Grand Wagoneer?
> >
> > does it have the TF727 or TH400? (depends on the year).
> >
> > Also, "auction"??? do you mean action? and if you do, I still
> > don't understand.
> >
> > length of the auction???
> >
> >
> > Here's some specifications for the 1989 Grand Wagoneer (I'm guessing)
> >
> > you can find this info from: http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?
> > zo=283461
> >
> >
> > 1989 JEEP GRAND WAGONEER 5.9L 8-cyl Engine Code 7
> >
> > FILTERS
> > Oil Filter: EAO44 Absolute Efficiency Oil Filter
> > Oil Filter: 51626 WIX 51626 Oil Filter
> > Oil Vapor Filter: 42998 WIX 42998 Breather Filter
> > Air Filter: EAA23 Absolute Efficiency Air Filter
> > Air Filter: 42020 WIX 42020 Air Filter
> > Fuel Filter: 33040 WIX 33040 Fuel Filter
> > Trans Filter: 58707 WIX 58707 Trans Filter
> >
> > NGK PLUGS & WIRE SETS
> > Plug................. IXIRIDIUM GR4IX NGK7149
> > Plug................. VPOWER GR4 NGK2635
> > Wire Set.......... WIRESET RC-CRX030 NGK53423
> >
> > TRICO WIPER BLADES
> > Blade Class Driver Passenger Rear
> > NEOFORM T16160 T16160
> > EXACTFIT T162 T162 T131
> > WINTER T37160 T37160 T37131
> > OKTANE 16 inch 16 inch
> >
> > LUBRICANTS & FLUIDS
> > Engine Oil
> > Grade 1......API*
> > Synthetic 5W-40 European Engine Oil
> > SAE 10W-40 XL Synthetic Motor Oil
> > Above 30B0F......20W-40, 20W-50
> > Above 0B0F......10W-30, 10W-40
> > Below 61B0F......5W-30
> > Automatic Transmission.....AP4
> > Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
> > Differential, Front W/ TT.....GL-5
> > All Temps......80W-140
> > Severe Gear 75W-140
> > SAE 80W-140 Synthetic Gear Lube
> > Differential, Front W/O TT.....GL-5
> > All Temps......75W-90
> > Severe Gear 75W-90
> > SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
> > Severe Gear 75W-110
> > Differential, Rear W/ TT.....GL-5
> > All Temps......80W-140
> > Severe Gear 75W-140
> > SAE 80W-140 Synthetic Gear Lube
> > Differential, Rear W/O TT.....GL-5
> > All Temps......75W-90
> > Severe Gear 75W-90
> > SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
> > Severe Gear 75W-110
> > Transfer Case,.....AF3
> > Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
> > Torque-Driveb"" Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATD)
> > Fluids
> > Power Steering Fluid.....PS
> > Brake Fluid.....HBH
> > Series 600 DOT 4 Racing Brake Fluid
> > Clutch Fluid.....HBH
> > Series 600 DOT 4 Racing Brake Fluid
> >
> > CHASSIS LUBRICATION
> > 6-9 Fittings, 0 Plugs..........LM
> > Series 2000 Synthetic Racing Grease
> > Synthetic GHD Heavy-Duty EP Grease
> > Synthetic Multi-Purpose Grease NLGI #2
> >
> > CAPACITIES
> > Engine, without filter..........4.0 quarts[1]
> > Cooling System, Initial Fill..........14.0 quarts
> > AMSOIL Antifreeze and Engine Coolant
> > Automatic Transmission, Initial Fill..........4.0 quarts[2]
> > Automatic Transmission, Total Fill..........8.6 quarts
> > Manual Transmission, 4-SPD, T176..........3.6 pints
> > Manual Transmission, 4-SPD, T18..........6.5 pints
> > Manual Transmission, 4-SPD, T4..........3.6 pints
> > Manual Transmission, 5-SPD, T5..........4.4 pints
> > Differential, Rear..........3.0 pints
> > Differential, withO SEL Front..........2.7 pints[3]
> > Transfer Case,219..........4.0 pints
> > Transfer Case,208, 229S-T..........5.9 pints
> > Transfer Case,219 W/ Reduct..........5.1 pints
> >
> > 1. Add extra oil when replacing filter. After
> > refill check oil level.
> > 2. With ENG at operating temperature, shift through all
> > gears. Check fluid level in NEUTRAL and add fluid
> > as needed.
> > 3. 1984-1992 Models with command-Trac, add 5 oz
> > of 75W-90 GL-5 to shift motor housing opening.
> >
> > TORQUES
> > Oil Drain Plug.....30 ft-lbs
> > Transfer case
> > Fill Plug.....18 ft-lbs
> > Drain Plug.....18 ft-lbs
> > Manual Transmission T18 & T176
> > Fill Plug.....15 ft-lbs
> > Drain Plug.....15 ft-lbs
> > Manual Transmission T4 & T5
> > Fill Plug.....23 ft-lbs
> >
> > SERVICE INTERVAL
> > AMSOIL Product Recommendation and Drain Interval Guide (g1490)
> >
> > OTHER TOP QUALITY PRODUCTS
> > MothersB. Car Care Appearance Products
> > By-Pass Oil Filters
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
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> >
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, MIDWAYadv wrote:
> >
> > # dear friends,
> > # I am working in order to end to fix my GrandWagoneer but I fear
> > of having the
> > # auction of the oil of the automatic gearshift that is not the
> > original.
> > # Someone of you can tell me with certainty the exact length of
> > the auction and
> > # also the oil amount that goes into the automatic gearshift?
> > # There are much pleasing one
> > # Luca from Rimini
> > #
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