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fsj-digest Wednesday, July 9 2008 Volume 01 : Number 3118
Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps
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Contents:
fsj: RE: problem aligning 727 torque converter
RE: fsj: fotos - seat heaters
RE: fsj: Re: problem aligning 727 torque converter
fsj: aux tank size?
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:18:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: RE: problem aligning 727 torque converter
converted evil empire format to PDF. :)
http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Transmissions/727TorqueFlightinformation.pdf
thanx,
john
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Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/
SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL
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On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Deuty, Scott wrote:
# John,
# Thanks for your response. After checking with the local tranny shop that does the autos for Fort Collins 4x4, I learned a lot about torque converters. Turns out spline # is related to year and lockup vs nonlockup. The lockup style has a shaft without teet at the very end. There is variation in years of use on these as it is not uniformly "after such and such year all lockup" due to towing variations etc. I think the J20 "favored" nonlockup for towing. Also was told the presence of a ring gear on the torque converter AND the flex plate is NOT an issue.
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# Attached is a Mircosoft Word file with my web findings. I hope this helps.
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# Scott Deuty, Senior Power Supply Design Engineer
# (970) 898-1565
# HP Workstation Power
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# -----Original Message-----
# From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com]
# Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:20 PM
# To: Deuty, Scott
# Cc: full size jeep list
# Subject: Re: problem aligning 727 torque converter
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# could be a difference in tooth count... one of the guys replied to the list (forgot you) and said something about 25 vs. 27 teeth or some such...
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# john
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# email: "Deuty, Scott" <sdeuty1-at-hp.com>
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# Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/
# SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL
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# On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Deuty, Scott wrote:
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# # John,
# # I have a 727 in a 1986 J20. The old torque converter slid right back on the shaft but the CR55H that I bought refuses to go on past the first shaft. I have tried twisting and aligning the pump tangs to no avail. Can you suggest anything?
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# # Scott Deuty, Senior Power Supply Design Engineer # (970) 898-1565 # HP Workstation Power #
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 23:22:53 -0700
From: Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: fotos - seat heaters
LOL -at- diesel seats! Sounds like something John would have alright!
Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10
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> To: john-at-wagoneers.com; proj96xj-at-bellsouth.net
> CC: fsj-at-digest.net
> Subject: RE: fsj: fotos - seat heaters
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 01:28:35 +0000
>
> > From: john
> > yeah, one difference between a J10 and a GW with a sunroof...
> > vertical adjustment... ;)
> >
> > my wife's head is nearly hitting the roof with the wj seat
> > on the sj base... she's only 5'10"...
> >
> > if I had done the bracket setup as you had she would have had
> > to ride with her head out of the sunroof.
>
> This is what happened when i tried the neon seats.... so they went in the
> wrangler.
>
> typo from earlier post
>
> I mean the diesel engine in the GC not the seat manufacturer
>
> Michel
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 00:25:47 -0700
From: Jim Blair <carnuck-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: fsj: Re: problem aligning 727 torque converter
A: All FSJ 727s are lockup capable, BUT not all are lockups! (mostly it was
just the first couple years, then only 6 cyls after that)
From: john
Subject: fsj: Re: problem aligning 727 torque converter
I'm not a 727 expert... but there is a difference in the jeep versions,
they have a lock up feature and a couple other changes... it's possible
that is the issue... will forward this to the FSJ list.
john
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 00:32:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: aux tank size?
just how many gallons do the
aux tanks in Wagoneers hold?
I thought it was 20, but this is
the 2nd time it seems like I've put
in about 24...
topped off both tanks with home brewwd
biodiesel.. 36 gals worth... and
took home 10 more for the benz...
hauled the little bantam trailer
behind omega with about 40 gals of wvo. :)
john
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Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/
SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL
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