From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Nov 20 13:14:43 2008 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Thursday, November 20 2008 Volume 01 : Number 3205 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: Re: [db] 300GD vs 4.2L J10 fsj: the J10s have it... fsj: Re: the J10s have it... Re: fsj: Re: the J10s have it... fsj: Re: [db] the J10s have it... fsj: Re: [db] the J10s have it... RE: fsj: Re: [db] the J10s have it... RE: fsj: Re: [db] the J10s have it... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:46:44 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: Re: [db] 300GD vs 4.2L J10 will be selling those rims and tires... tires are rough... have another set of tires/rims. :) now all I need is a 4bt. ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com/fotos/fotomeister/ SAVE power, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE yourself: http://freegift.com SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Joe Hughes wrote: # It looks pretty nice. I like the wheels and the exterior is in decent # shape. # # # Joe Hughes # Everett, WA # 22 Willys-Overland Touring # 50 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis # 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan # 88 Honda CBR-600 <- Currently DD # 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L # 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john # Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:28 PM # To: Michel Balea # Cc: Jim Blair; diesel-benz list; David Ashby; fsj digest; xj-list # Subject: RE: fsj: Re: [db] 300GD vs 4.2L J10 # # I think that radiator is back under the hood where it # belongs... talked to the guy tonight, just need to bolt up # the accessories, add seats and gas... # # http://wagoneers.com/tmp/J10/ALL.html # # dragging it home on Sunday from ballard... bought it... # Will move my good body onto this chassis as soon as I can get # Superdawg back up from Centralia... have left numerous messages # and emails but they've fallen into the void... the black hole... # jeeps and communications fall in and rarely escape... ;) # # the 300GD is on hold for a while... we'll see... # # # fwiw, track bars really don't make much difference on a leaf spring vehicle, # not nearly as much as sway bars... # # john # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://wagoneers.com/fotos/fotomeister/ # SAVE power, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # SAVE yourself: http://freegift.com # SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Michel Balea wrote: # # track bar(s) I like them.... keep the Jeep on tracks.... not wandering. # # Nice J-10..... color is nice, the wheels are really good... I need to # know how # # to polish mine.... The mother's does not last too long.... # # Even comes w a spare radiator. # # Michel # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:12:16 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: the J10s have it... So it looks like the J10's are winning here... ;) The guy makes it sound like the body on the '80 J10 is in really bad shape... maybe it is... prepared for it being scrap metal... the plan is to put my body on this frame so SuperDawg can motor about... who knows, maybe I'll fix this one up to drive and sell while making SuperDawg a Diesel... http://wagoneers.com/tmp/J10/ALL.html Drove the Blazer today... it's ok, but I just can't get excited about it... everything works... it's a great tow vehicle... reliable, comfortable, etc. But it's not a Jeep or a Mercedes... The 300GD is too underpowered and lacks a lot of nice features... but overall it's a fantastic vehicle... we'll see if it's around in January. :) If I can make my J10 a Diesel I probably won't give the 300GD a second thought... Will figure all the J10 stuff out as I go along... really like the color, who knows... maybe I'll use the short box instead of the stepside bed... either way, I can realistically see two nice J10s living here in a few months... :) I can see the Blazer going away... john '75 J10 hydraulic dump trailer - heavy hauler, complete with disc brakes '80 J10 short box ...coming soon - a working engine! '83 J10 stepside ...coming soon - a missing engine! '91 300D - daily driver some days - it just works... '94 K1500 - daily driver some days - it just works... '99 WJ - interstate cruiser other cars parked here: '67 J100 Panel - son's graduation present (still mine. ;) '74 Javelin with a Ford 460 and C6 '85 300D - son's daily driver ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com/fotos/fotomeister/ SAVE power, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE yourself: http://freegift.com SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Joe Hughes wrote: # It looks pretty nice. I like the wheels and the exterior is in decent # shape. # # # Joe Hughes # Everett, WA # 22 Willys-Overland Touring # 50 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis # 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan # 88 Honda CBR-600 <- Currently DD # 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L # 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:03:05 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: the J10s have it... fer cryin' out loud, john, there's not much wrong with THAT body! it'd be nice to live whomewhere that old jeeps don't rust... they mold! there wouldn't be much left of that jeep if it lived its life around here. Neal A. Hoover in the Ohio Valley where rust lives and breeds Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "Joe Hughes" Cc: "xj-list" ; "diesel-benz list" ; "David Ashby" ; ; "FParker" ; "'full size jeep list'" Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:12 AM Subject: fsj: the J10s have it... > So it looks like the J10's are winning here... ;) > > The guy makes it sound like the body on the '80 J10 is in really bad shape... > maybe it is... prepared for it being scrap metal... the plan is to put my body > on this frame so SuperDawg can motor about... who knows, maybe I'll > fix this one up to drive and sell while making SuperDawg a Diesel... > > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/J10/ALL.html > > Drove the Blazer today... it's ok, but I just can't get excited about it... > everything works... it's a great tow vehicle... reliable, comfortable, > etc. But it's not a Jeep or a Mercedes... > > The 300GD is too underpowered and lacks a lot of nice features... but overall > it's a fantastic vehicle... we'll see if it's around in January. :) If I can > make my J10 a Diesel I probably won't give the 300GD a second thought... > > Will figure all the J10 stuff out as I go along... really like the color, who > knows... maybe I'll use the short box instead of the stepside bed... either > way, I can realistically see two nice J10s living here in a few months... :) > > I can see the Blazer going away... > > john > '75 J10 hydraulic dump trailer - heavy hauler, complete with disc brakes > '80 J10 short box ...coming soon - a working engine! > '83 J10 stepside ...coming soon - a missing engine! > '91 300D - daily driver some days - it just works... > '94 K1500 - daily driver some days - it just works... > '99 WJ - interstate cruiser > > other cars parked here: > '67 J100 Panel - son's graduation present (still mine. ;) > '74 Javelin with a Ford 460 and C6 > '85 300D - son's daily driver > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://wagoneers.com/fotos/fotomeister/ > SAVE power, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf > SAVE yourself: http://freegift.com > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Joe Hughes wrote: > > # It looks pretty nice. I like the wheels and the exterior is in decent > # shape. > # > # > # Joe Hughes > # Everett, WA > # 22 Willys-Overland Touring > # 50 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis > # 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan > # 88 Honda CBR-600 <- Currently DD > # 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L > # 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:47:36 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: the J10s have it... I know... we are so blessed out here... I don't mind not seeing much of the sun either, you get used to overcast... when I can see the mountains out there, like this morning, it's just perfect... I should learn the name of that mountain I see out my office window... :) well, it's more likely just a hill... doesn't have snow on it. ;) We'll find out Sunday what the actual state of this J10 is... :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com/fotos/fotomeister/ SAVE power, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE yourself: http://freegift.com SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Neal Hoover wrote: # fer cryin' out loud, john, there's not much wrong with THAT body! # it'd be nice to live whomewhere that old jeeps don't rust... they mold! # # there wouldn't be much left of that jeep if it lived its life around here. # # Neal A. Hoover # in the Ohio Valley where rust lives and breeds # Project '76 J-10 # Project '96 XJ # http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj # # # ----- Original Message ----- # From: "john" # To: "Joe Hughes" # Cc: "xj-list" ; "diesel-benz list" ; # "David Ashby" ; ; "FParker" # ; "'full size jeep list'" # Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:12 AM # Subject: fsj: the J10s have it... # # # > So it looks like the J10's are winning here... ;) # > # > The guy makes it sound like the body on the '80 J10 is in really bad # shape... # > maybe it is... prepared for it being scrap metal... the plan is to put my # body # > on this frame so SuperDawg can motor about... who knows, maybe I'll # > fix this one up to drive and sell while making SuperDawg a Diesel... # > # > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/J10/ALL.html # > # > Drove the Blazer today... it's ok, but I just can't get excited about # it... # > everything works... it's a great tow vehicle... reliable, comfortable, # > etc. But it's not a Jeep or a Mercedes... # > # > The 300GD is too underpowered and lacks a lot of nice features... but # overall # > it's a fantastic vehicle... we'll see if it's around in January. :) If I # can # > make my J10 a Diesel I probably won't give the 300GD a second thought... # > # > Will figure all the J10 stuff out as I go along... really like the color, # who # > knows... maybe I'll use the short box instead of the stepside bed... # either # > way, I can realistically see two nice J10s living here in a few months... # :) # > # > I can see the Blazer going away... # > # > john # > '75 J10 hydraulic dump trailer - heavy hauler, complete with disc brakes # > '80 J10 short box ...coming soon - a working engine! # > '83 J10 stepside ...coming soon - a missing engine! # > '91 300D - daily driver some days - it just works... # > '94 K1500 - daily driver some days - it just works... # > '99 WJ - interstate cruiser # > # > other cars parked here: # > '67 J100 Panel - son's graduation present (still mine. ;) # > '74 Javelin with a Ford 460 and C6 # > '85 300D - son's daily driver # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://wagoneers.com/fotos/fotomeister/ # > SAVE power, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # > SAVE yourself: http://freegift.com # > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Joe Hughes wrote: # > # > # It looks pretty nice. I like the wheels and the exterior is in decent # > # shape. # > # # > # # > # Joe Hughes # > # Everett, WA # > # 22 Willys-Overland Touring # > # 50 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis # > # 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan # > # 88 Honda CBR-600 <- Currently DD # > # 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L # > # 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:17:53 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] the J10s have it... everyone is raving about those wheels... maybe I should keep 'em. ;) I'm very happy to see a J10 in the color I like... everyone has given me grief about wanting to paint my truck that color... guess I'll see now if it's as bad as they say, or as nice as I expect it to be. :) oil is at $52/barrel... excellent... wonder what caused the price to drop by half??? things are not looking good with the economy, housing market, job market, etc. ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com/fotos/fotomeister/ SAVE power, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE yourself: http://freegift.com SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # yeah, love those wheels too.. # # BTW, seen this? # http://www.oil-price.net/ # # Petrol is under a euro a litre in some stations in Ireland already.. nice! # Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:30:35 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] the J10s have it... they're standard six lug 15" rims, chevy, toyota, jeep... just like these: http://wagoneers.com/tmp/cl-items/4xBridgestone-WinterDuelers-on-slotted-SJ-6lugs.jpg http://wagoneers.com/tmp/cl-items/4xBridgestone-WinterDuelers-on-slotted-SJ-close-1.jpg or these: http://wagoneers.com/tmp/cl-items/GrandWag-rim-dominator-tire.jpg ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com/fotos/fotomeister/ SAVE power, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE yourself: http://freegift.com SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Jim Hoffman wrote: # Maybe you could post the make & model when you get it home. I doubt # the bolt pattern on those would work on my Dodge or I'd offer to take # them off your hands for you ;) # # Jim # # --- On Thu, 11/20/08, john wrote: # # > From: john # > Subject: Re: [db] the J10s have it... # > To: "Stephen Rigley" # > Cc: "Jim Hoffman" , "full size jeep list" , "diesel-benz list" # > Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 12:17 PM # > everyone is raving about those wheels... maybe I should keep # > 'em. ;) # > I'm very happy to see a J10 in the color I like... # > everyone has given # > me grief about wanting to paint my truck that color... # > guess I'll see # > now if it's as bad as they say, or as nice as I expect # > it to be. :) # > # > oil is at $52/barrel... excellent... wonder what caused # > the price # > to drop by half??? # > # > things are not looking good with the economy, housing # > market, job market, etc. # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't # > rust, they mold # > http://wagoneers.com/fotos/fotomeister/ # > SAVE power, use LINUX: # > http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # > SAVE yourself: http://freegift.com # > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # > # > # yeah, love those wheels too.. # > # # > # BTW, seen this? # > # http://www.oil-price.net/ # > # # > # Petrol is under a euro a litre in some stations in # > Ireland already.. nice! # > # Steve # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:07:11 +0000 From: Michel Balea Subject: RE: fsj: Re: [db] the J10s have it... We like the wheels because they are shiny. No need for elbow grease. Ask the owner how he had them so shiny. Any color is good as long as you like it. Oil is below $50..... the market tanked once more.... No one is going to spend anything (except the FSJ owners).... Companys are short on cash.... GM... will have to file for bankruptcy..... all the indicators are bad. Teh investors are trying to cut their losses (at this point -a few weeks ago- you may as well sit and wait). Michel > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:17:53 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: srigley-at-gmail.com > CC: jslash-at-sbcglobal.net; fsj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: Re: [db] the J10s have it... > > everyone is raving about those wheels... maybe I should keep 'em. ;) > I'm very happy to see a J10 in the color I like... everyone has given > me grief about wanting to paint my truck that color... guess I'll see > now if it's as bad as they say, or as nice as I expect it to be. :) > > oil is at $52/barrel... excellent... wonder what caused the price > to drop by half??? > > things are not looking good with the economy, housing market, job market, etc. > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://wagoneers.com/fotos/fotomeister/ > SAVE power, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf > SAVE yourself: http://freegift.com > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: > > # yeah, love those wheels too.. > # > # BTW, seen this? > # http://www.oil-price.net/ > # > # Petrol is under a euro a litre in some stations in Ireland already.. nice! > # Steve _________________________________________________________________ Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_1 12008 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:12:29 +0000 From: Michel Balea Subject: RE: fsj: Re: [db] the J10s have it... The slotted wheels are impossible to polish... and to be kept that way. I have a set.... I like them... but I am not a detailler. I saw an RV owner polishing his wheels once (because of the de-icing spray) and he mentioned that some facilities will do the job w a machine, just pop the whole wheel w tire, pay $10.... have tea, coffee.... The turbine wheels are nice too. I have a set somewhere.... need to wait for the current tires to wear out. I have a set of the wagon wheels w the bronze accent which is bubbling. I was thinking of trying to remove the accent... but other project are more important. Michel > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:30:35 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: jslash-at-sbcglobal.net > CC: fsj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: Re: [db] the J10s have it... > > they're standard six lug 15" rims, chevy, toyota, jeep... > > just like these: > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/cl-items/4xBridgestone-WinterDuelers-on-slotted-SJ-6 lugs.jpg > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/cl-items/4xBridgestone-WinterDuelers-on-slotted-SJ-c lose-1.jpg > or these: > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/cl-items/GrandWag-rim-dominator-tire.jpg > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://wagoneers.com/fotos/fotomeister/ > SAVE power, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf > SAVE yourself: http://freegift.com > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > # Maybe you could post the make & model when you get it home. I doubt > # the bolt pattern on those would work on my Dodge or I'd offer to take > # them off your hands for you ;) > # > # Jim > # > # --- On Thu, 11/20/08, john wrote: > # > # > From: john > # > Subject: Re: [db] the J10s have it... > # > To: "Stephen Rigley" > # > Cc: "Jim Hoffman" , "full size jeep list" , "diesel-benz list" > # > Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 12:17 PM > # > everyone is raving about those wheels... maybe I should keep > # > 'em. ;) > # > I'm very happy to see a J10 in the color I like... > # > everyone has given > # > me grief about wanting to paint my truck that color... > # > guess I'll see > # > now if it's as bad as they say, or as nice as I expect > # > it to be. :) > # > > # > oil is at $52/barrel... excellent... wonder what caused > # > the price > # > to drop by half??? > # > > # > things are not looking good with the economy, housing > # > market, job market, etc. > # > > # > > # > > # > ----- > # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't > # > rust, they mold > # > http://wagoneers.com/fotos/fotomeister/ > # > SAVE power, use LINUX: > # > http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf > # > SAVE yourself: http://freegift.com > # > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > > # > > # > On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: > # > > # > # yeah, love those wheels too.. > # > # > # > # BTW, seen this? > # > # http://www.oil-price.net/ > # > # > # > # Petrol is under a euro a litre in some stations in > # > Ireland already.. nice! > # > # Steve > # _________________________________________________________________ Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows Mobile.. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/ ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3205 **************************