From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Wed Dec 10 16:57:55 2008 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Thursday, December 11 2008 Volume 01 : Number 3220 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: hydraulics - 35mpg! fsj: RE: [CJ-10List] axle ratios and tire size fsj: fuel prices in NL RE: fsj: hydraulics - 35mpg! RE: fsj: cj-10a - pictures from this morning RE: fsj: hydraulics - 35mpg! RE: fsj: cj-10a - pictures from this morning fsj: fuel price in mukilteo... :) Re: fsj: fuel prices in NL Re: fsj: hydraulics - 35mpg! fsj: RE: fuel price in mukilteo... :) Re: fsj: fuel prices in NL FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. 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On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3003264 popular science, or mechanics,had a hydraulic hybrid under test in the early 80s... not 35mpg, but better than the straight gas engine.... retrofitting a system like this into our older vehicles would be nice... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:58:40 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: RE: [CJ-10List] axle ratios and tire size Well, whatever the final solution is, for me it will be a Diesel. :) I put a 6.2L in my '91 Grand Wagoneer... sold it on ebay in August... The reason I bought the CJ-10a was primarily for the Diesel and transmission as it'll bolt right into my '83 J10 Stepside... however, the CJ-10A is pretty cool and in superb shape... so this will be a hard decision, but whatever that decision is, it'll be a Diesel drivetrain. :) A buddy of mine has decided to go with a 6.2L Diesel in his '56 Willys Panel... he's got a nice Chevy 350 for sale, complete with the manual trans behind it... we're out here in Washington state... where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ;) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Phil Walker wrote: # I overcame all these power, tyre and ratio concerns by dropping a 350 small # block Chevy in giving me a little over 300hp. Run it through a TH350 and an # Atlas transfer case (for its twin stick controls and 4:1) 4.56^Rs in the axle # and 35^T tyres. # # # # Economy from LPG and performance on petrol. # # # # She can top 90mph without breaking a sweat and is rock steady (on Procomp # tyres) and on LPG for cruising and off road is economical J # # # # Sounds a good project you have going. # # # # Phil # # # # From: CJ-10List-at-yahoogroups.com [mailto:CJ-10List-at-yahoogroups.com] On Behalf # Of diesel john # Sent: 08 December 2008 23:55 # To: undisclosed-recipients: # Subject: [CJ-10List] axle ratios and tire size # # # # # I've put together a spreadsheet (saved as pdf) to show the different RPMs # with 235s, 30's and 31's. # # gears: 3.08, 3.31, 3.54, 4.10 and 4.88. # # the ones highlighted are ones I have access to... more or less... # # the 2200 rpm yellow band is my best guess at optimum cruising speed... # thinking # 60mph is what I should shoot for... # # My primary objective for getting the cj-10a wasn't for it, but for the # engine/trans # for my '83 j10 stepside... however, the more I look at the pictures of these # things... well, you know, you have one. :) # # we'll see how pictures relate to the real thing in a couple of hours. :) # # here's the file with the ratios/rpms: # # HYPERLINK # "http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/CJ-10A-misc/CJ10A-axle-ratios.pdf"http://wagonee # rs.com/JEEPS/CJ-10A-misc/CJ10A-axle-ratios.pdf # # john # # ----- # ---------------------------------------------------------- # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # HYPERLINK # "http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister"http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - # Trust Jesus: HYPERLINK "http://freegift.com"http://freegift.com # SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: HYPERLINK # "http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf"http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # SAVE fuel, use synthetics: HYPERLINK # "http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461"http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo= # 283461 # ---------------------------------------------------------- # # On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Scott MacMoyle wrote: # # # I tried 3.31s and it didnt have any power at all. I went to 4.09s and # # it worked well up to 63 MPH but didnt really want to go much faster # # than that. I have 31 in. tires. # # # # Scott # # # # --- In HYPERLINK # "mailto:CJ-10List%40yahoogroups.com"CJ-10List-at-yahoogroups.com, diesel john # wrote: # # > # # > Jim, # # > # # > Thanx... I think a lot of my questions will be answered with a tape # # measure # # > in the driveway tonight. :) # # > # # > Biggest questions involve the axles... # # > # # > can I use J10 axles front and rear without modification? # # > How about the J10 springs? # # > # # > I see folks using Wagoneer axles... that'd work too. # # > # # > If I wanted to make this thing into a daily driver, normal sized # # tires (235 - 31"), # # > what kind of gearing is best? I have options of 3.08, 3.54, or # # with a # # > bit of expense, 3.31 and 4.10... assuming of course I can use GW # # or J10 axles. # # > # # > the other option is to pull the Diesel/727 and drop it into my '83 # # J10 Stepside. :) # # > # # > I guess whether I choose the '86 CJ-10A or the '83 J10 will be # # determined by the # # > comfort of the cab... :) # # > # # > tonight... 6:30pm... only 4.5 hrs left... :) # # > # # > thanx, # # > john # # > # # > ----- # # > ---------------------------------------------------------- # # ---- # # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they # # mold # # > HYPERLINK # "http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister"http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - # Trust Jesus: # # HYPERLINK "http://freegift.com"http://freegift.com # # > SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: # # HYPERLINK "http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf"http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # # > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: HYPERLINK # "http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?"http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi? # # zo=283461 # # > ---------------------------------------------------------- # # ---- # # > # # > # # > On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Andrus, Jim wrote: # # > # # > # Congrats on our new purchase...let me know if you have any # # questions i # # > # can help you with...mine has been very motified into a rock # # crawler. # # > # # # > # fuelnjktr, Jim # # > # # # > # --- In HYPERLINK # "mailto:CJ-10List%40yahoogroups.com"CJ-10List-at-yahoogroups.com, "john # meister" # # wrote: # # > # > # # > # > Have a few questions about CJ-10s. 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Groups is subject to: # http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ # # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 19:00:00 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: fuel prices in NL latest from stef... http://wagoneers.com/tmp/fuel-NL_09-Dec-2008.jpg too tired to do the math... :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:56:24 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: hydraulics - 35mpg! I was watching the tail end of CBS news tonight (waiting for the local news to come on) and Katie Couric had a guy who does electric vehicle conversions (can't recall his name but it was famous sounding like an actor or politician) and they showed an old land yacht he converted that gets 100 miles on 1 charge. They mentioned he did some other conversions and one of the vehicles they showed was an FSJ! Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:54:07 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; DZAshby-at-verizon.net; bmax65-at-yahoo.com; FParker24-at-verizon.net; ABCvoice-at-worldnet.att.net; srigley-at-gmail.com > Subject: fsj: hydraulics - 35mpg! > > On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: > http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3003264 > > popular science, or mechanics,had a hydraulic hybrid under test in the early 80s... > not 35mpg, but better than the straight gas engine.... > > retrofitting a system like this into our older vehicles would be nice... > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com > SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_12 2008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 21:10:11 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: cj-10a - pictures from this morning Dana 60 rear, huh? Maybe you need J20 diffs! LOL! Know what? My wife wouldn't complain about that Jeep in my driveway (as long as I sell one of the others! Especially the Ice Cream truck!) Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:17:12 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: cj-10a-at-wagoneers.com; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; FParker24-at-verizon.net; ABCvoice-at-worldnet.att.net; bmax65-at-yahoo.com; DZAshby-at-verizon.net; k9radio-at-att.net; fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: cj-10a - pictures from this morning > > the 1986 CJ-10A sitting in my driveway... :) > > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/ALL-9Dec2008.html > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/ > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/ALL.html (from last night) > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com > SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Suspicious message? There^Rs an alert for that. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad2_1 22008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 22:56:06 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: hydraulics - 35mpg! cool... see if you can find out more... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Jim Blair wrote: # # I was watching the tail end of CBS news tonight (waiting for the local news to come on) and Katie Couric had a guy who does electric vehicle conversions (can't recall his name but it was famous sounding like an actor or politician) and they showed an old land yacht he converted that gets 100 miles on 1 charge. They mentioned he did some other conversions and one of the vehicles they showed was an FSJ! # # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # # # # # > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:54:07 -0800 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; DZAshby-at-verizon.net; bmax65-at-yahoo.com; FParker24-at-verizon.net; ABCvoice-at-worldnet.att.net; srigley-at-gmail.com # > Subject: fsj: hydraulics - 35mpg! # > # > On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # > http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3003264 # > # > popular science, or mechanics,had a hydraulic hybrid under test in the early 80s... # > not 35mpg, but better than the straight gas engine.... # > # > retrofitting a system like this into our older vehicles would be nice... # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com # > SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # _________________________________________________________________ # Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. # http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 22:56:38 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: cj-10a - pictures from this morning j10 please, or gw.. ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Jim Blair wrote: # # Dana 60 rear, huh? Maybe you need J20 diffs! LOL! # # Know what? My wife wouldn't complain about that Jeep in my driveway (as long as I sell one of the others! Especially the Ice Cream truck!) # # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # # # # # > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:17:12 -0800 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: cj-10a-at-wagoneers.com; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; FParker24-at-verizon.net; ABCvoice-at-worldnet.att.net; bmax65-at-yahoo.com; DZAshby-at-verizon.net; k9radio-at-att.net; fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: fsj: cj-10a - pictures from this morning # > # > the 1986 CJ-10A sitting in my driveway... :) # > # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/ALL-9Dec2008.html # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/ # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/ALL.html (from last night) # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com # > SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # _________________________________________________________________ # Suspicious message? There's an alert for that. # http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad2_122008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 22:57:35 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: fuel price in mukilteo... :) wow. gotta check that out. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, David P. Ashby wrote: # 2.099 for diesel -at- ARCO in Mukilteo 12-9-08. # # -----Original Message----- # From: "john" # Sent: 12/09/2008 7:00:00 PM # To: "stef", "full size jeep list", "xj-list", "David Ashby", "diesel-benz list" # Subject: fuel prices in NL # # latest from stef... # http://wagoneers.com/tmp/fuel-NL_09-Dec-2008.jpg # # too tired to do the math... :) # # john # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com # SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:22:32 CST From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: fuel prices in NL john said: {- latest from stef... {- http://wagoneers.com/tmp/fuel-NL_09-Dec-2008.jpg {- {- too tired to do the math... :) Umm, it's pretty simple. http://google.com/ put in: 1.189 euros/liter in dollars/gallon it says: 1.18900 (Euros / liter) = 5.81195356 U.S. dollars / US gallon And the math isn't hard at all; it's looking up the currency conversion rates that takes several extra seconds. Which is why the google calculator does it all for you. :) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Television is called a medium because it is neither rare nor well done. - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:26:15 CST From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: hydraulics - 35mpg! Jim Blair said: {- I was watching the tail end of CBS news tonight (waiting for the local news to {- come on) and Katie Couric had a guy who does electric vehicle conversions {- (can't recall his name but it was famous sounding like an actor or politician) {- and they showed an old land yacht he converted that gets 100 miles on 1 {- charge. They mentioned he did some other conversions and one of the vehicles {- they showed was an FSJ! Hmm, how much? Cuz if I can charge it in my garage... Well, I rarely drive the truck out of town anymore, and very rarely more than 100-150mi round trip. I'm sure it would be many thousands of dollars, though. :( - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults. - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:31:55 -0800 From: "Joe Hughes" Subject: fsj: RE: fuel price in mukilteo... :) Dang, I live 6 blocks from there, but my Willys doesn't need any fuel. It still has $4/gallon diesel in it. With a 600-mile range and me using my CBR for a commuter I don't fill up but once every couple of months. I guess with snow in the forecast I'll be driving the diesel Willys more. Joe Hughes Everett, WA 22 Willys-Overland Touring 50 Willys pickup, Cummins 3.9L 4bt on a 74 Cherokee chassis 64 Mercedes S220 Sedan 88 Honda CBR-600 <- Currently DD 94 BMW 540i e34 6-spd 4.0L 00 JGC Ltd. 4.7L - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:58 PM To: David P. Ashby Cc: diesel-benz list; stef; full size jeep list Subject: fsj: fuel price in mukilteo... :) wow. gotta check that out. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, David P. Ashby wrote: # 2.099 for diesel -at- ARCO in Mukilteo 12-9-08. # # -----Original Message----- # From: "john" # Sent: 12/09/2008 7:00:00 PM # To: "stef", "full size jeep list", "xj-list", "David Ashby", "diesel-benz list" # Subject: fuel prices in NL # # latest from stef... # http://wagoneers.com/tmp/fuel-NL_09-Dec-2008.jpg # # too tired to do the math... :) # # john # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com # SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:56:49 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: fuel prices in NL didn't say I couldn't do it... just too tired to push the mouse around. ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Dan Black wrote: # john said: # {- latest from stef... # {- http://wagoneers.com/tmp/fuel-NL_09-Dec-2008.jpg # {- # {- too tired to do the math... :) # # Umm, it's pretty simple. # # http://google.com/ # # put in: # 1.189 euros/liter in dollars/gallon # # it says: # 1.18900 (Euros / liter) = 5.81195356 U.S. dollars / US gallon # # And the math isn't hard at all; it's looking up the currency conversion # rates that takes several extra seconds. Which is why the google # calculator does it all for you. :) # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Television is called a medium because it is neither rare nor well done. # -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- # ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3220 **************************