From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Dec 18 21:54:26 2008 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Friday, December 19 2008 Volume 01 : Number 3225 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: D44 gears Re: fsj: decisions, decisions... fsj: adapters and Diesels Re: fsj: adapters and Diesels fsj: SAE adapter plates Re: [db] Re: fsj: decisions, decisions... fsj: Re: [CJ-10List] SAE adapter plates fsj: Re: [CJ-10List] SAE adapter plates FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:54:18 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: Re: fsj: D44 gears I'd check the spider gears first before yanking the diffs. The pinion nut on my Spirit needs tightening so I was going to go to my cabin and get the Chev for now, but they have almost 24" of snow up there on top of ice! We got about 5" here in Lynnwood since I got home from work last night -at-6PM (I left work at 4:30 and did the back roads to get home) http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/carnuck/Seattle%20storms/?action=view&c urrent=DSC03209.jpg Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: D44 gears john said: {- trade you my 3.07s for your 3.54s. ;) Well, the reason I'm probably doing it in the near future is because the front one is going out... Otherwise, I'd hold off for better timing (including warmer weather) and try to install them myself with a friend. Still want 'em? ;) (And I'm keeping the posi either way. ;) ) - - - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- Two fish are in a tank. One says to the other, "Do you know how to drive this thing?" - - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org - -------------- _________________________________________________________________ You live life online. So we put Windows on the web. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032869/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:16:24 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: Re: fsj: decisions, decisions... There is 24" in Sultan and probably more up by my cabin (Since I didn't get the Spirit converted to 4x4 with parts from the Eagle yet, we won't be headed that way) Sent a pic link in my last email of the snow here in Lynnwood. Did the T18 come with a Mopar big block bell or an adapter to fit the Nissan diesel? The AMC bell won't work and AFAIK, the T18 bell won't fit the T5. I would look for a Nissan Patrol (probably find one in Canada. The guy in Florida hasn't found one for me yet) to get the AW4 bell, flexplate, starter and torque converter from that to run in the J10 with a Jeep AW4 trans. (not 100% sure they are the same. The '84 Maxima/810 wagon I found with the 3.3 turbo and AW4 was sold before I could get it a couple years ago) Since the 3.3 was a factory option (albeit everywhere except the USA) in the J10, I'd stick with it. 4BT is indeed very noiser and heavy, but the J10 can handle it. I know the engineers were concerned with frame cracks from bigger engines (Ford had a BIG issue with that when they first put the IH 6.9 and 7.3 into vans and pickups) Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: decisions, decisions... snow? my buddy up in arlington has about 8 inches... we're getting snowed on right now... temp is going to drop... but it should all be melted by the time you come up for the Panel. ;) The 300GD is fine as is... but it's not "free". With a wedding soon to happen, no word yet... need the money from selling all the other rigs. :) Have to work on the axle ratios for SuperDawg with the 3.3L Nissan Turbo Diesel. I'm buying the engine with the adapter and a T-18 that needs a 2nd gear syncro... I figure I can attach my T-5, or use the AT out of the CJ-10A. But then I'd have to set it up... so I think the T-5 is my best option... better power transfer, overdrive... I would think that 4.10s in Superdawg will be the best option with 235s and the T-5. Will have it all. ;) The Nissan 3.3L Turbo Diesel I'm getting may need a rebuild... not sure... wondering if I shouldn't go with a Cummins 4BT rather... would suspect it would be a lot heavier and a lot noiser... I'm getting the 3.3 TD and T18 for $650... A Cummins sans gearbox will be about 2k... anyone got the specs for a 4bt? _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_12 2008 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:27:03 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: adapters and Diesels the guy with the 3.3L TD from a Scout said it used SAE Adapter #49 I think, will check and send... need to find out if that will work with my T-5. I'm getting the 3.3L TD for $500 and the adapter and T18 for another $150, the T18 needs 2nd gear syncros, so it's not something I'll be using anyway, mainly after the adapter, suspect it will allow me to mate to my T-5. Otherwise I'll use the Adapter and TF727 from my CJ-10A and put the 4.2L/T18/np208 from my '80 J10 into the CJ-10a to keep it saleable and working... the '80 j10 might survive this ordeal yet... sawzalls are standing by. ;) if you can find out more about the AW4 adapter, that would be awesome, I have one down in Centralia along with a custom adapter to a full size jeep xfr case... not sure how the Aw4 would work with the Diesel/computer-wise though... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, Jim Blair wrote: # There is 24" in Sultan and probably more up by my cabin (Since I didn't get # the Spirit converted to 4x4 with parts from the Eagle yet, we won't be headed # that way) Sent a pic link in my last email of the snow here in Lynnwood. # Did the T18 come with a Mopar big block bell or an adapter to fit the # Nissan diesel? The AMC bell won't work and AFAIK, the T18 bell won't fit the # T5. # I would look for a Nissan Patrol (probably find one in Canada. The guy in # Florida hasn't found one for me yet) to get the AW4 bell, flexplate, starter # and torque converter from that to run in the J10 with a Jeep AW4 trans. (not # 100% sure they are the same. The '84 Maxima/810 wagon I found with the 3.3 # turbo and AW4 was sold before I could get it a couple years ago) # Since the 3.3 was a factory option (albeit everywhere except the USA) in # the J10, I'd stick with it. 4BT is indeed very noiser and heavy, but the J10 # can handle it. I know the engineers were concerned with frame cracks from # bigger engines (Ford had a BIG issue with that when they first put the IH 6.9 # and 7.3 into vans and pickups) # # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # # From: john # Subject: Re: fsj: decisions, decisions... # # snow? my buddy up in arlington has about 8 inches... we're getting snowed on # right now... temp is going to drop... but it should all be melted # by the time you come up for the Panel. ;) # # The 300GD is fine as is... but it's not "free". With a wedding soon # to happen, no word yet... need the money from selling all the other rigs. :) # # Have to work on the axle ratios for SuperDawg with the 3.3L Nissan # Turbo Diesel. I'm buying the engine with the adapter and a T-18 # that needs a 2nd gear syncro... I figure I can attach my T-5, or # use the AT out of the CJ-10A. But then I'd have to set it up... so # I think the T-5 is my best option... better power transfer, overdrive... # # I would think that 4.10s in Superdawg will be the best option with 235s # and the T-5. Will have it all. ;) # # The Nissan 3.3L Turbo Diesel I'm getting may need a rebuild... not sure... # wondering if I shouldn't go with a Cummins 4BT rather... would suspect # it would be a lot heavier and a lot noiser... I'm getting the 3.3 TD # and T18 for $650... A Cummins sans gearbox will be about 2k... anyone # got the specs for a 4bt? # # # # _________________________________________________________________ # Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. # http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_12 # 2008 # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:32:46 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: adapters and Diesels he said SAE adapter #4... will research this... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, john wrote: # the guy with the 3.3L TD from a Scout said it used SAE Adapter #49 I think, # will check and send... need to find out if that will work with my T-5. # # I'm getting the 3.3L TD for $500 and the adapter and T18 for another $150, # the T18 needs 2nd gear syncros, so it's not something I'll be using anyway, # mainly after the adapter, suspect it will allow me to mate to my T-5. # # Otherwise I'll use the Adapter and TF727 from my CJ-10A and put the 4.2L/T18/np208 # from my '80 J10 into the CJ-10a to keep it saleable and working... # # the '80 j10 might survive this ordeal yet... sawzalls are standing by. ;) # # if you can find out more about the AW4 adapter, that would be awesome, I # have one down in Centralia along with a custom adapter to a full size # jeep xfr case... not sure how the Aw4 would work with the Diesel/computer-wise # though... # # john # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com # SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, Jim Blair wrote: # # # There is 24" in Sultan and probably more up by my cabin (Since I didn't get # # the Spirit converted to 4x4 with parts from the Eagle yet, we won't be headed # # that way) Sent a pic link in my last email of the snow here in Lynnwood. # # Did the T18 come with a Mopar big block bell or an adapter to fit the # # Nissan diesel? The AMC bell won't work and AFAIK, the T18 bell won't fit the # # T5. # # I would look for a Nissan Patrol (probably find one in Canada. The guy in # # Florida hasn't found one for me yet) to get the AW4 bell, flexplate, starter # # and torque converter from that to run in the J10 with a Jeep AW4 trans. (not # # 100% sure they are the same. The '84 Maxima/810 wagon I found with the 3.3 # # turbo and AW4 was sold before I could get it a couple years ago) # # Since the 3.3 was a factory option (albeit everywhere except the USA) in # # the J10, I'd stick with it. 4BT is indeed very noiser and heavy, but the J10 # # can handle it. I know the engineers were concerned with frame cracks from # # bigger engines (Ford had a BIG issue with that when they first put the IH 6.9 # # and 7.3 into vans and pickups) # # # # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # # # # From: john # # Subject: Re: fsj: decisions, decisions... # # # # snow? my buddy up in arlington has about 8 inches... we're getting snowed on # # right now... temp is going to drop... but it should all be melted # # by the time you come up for the Panel. ;) # # # # The 300GD is fine as is... but it's not "free". With a wedding soon # # to happen, no word yet... need the money from selling all the other rigs. :) # # # # Have to work on the axle ratios for SuperDawg with the 3.3L Nissan # # Turbo Diesel. I'm buying the engine with the adapter and a T-18 # # that needs a 2nd gear syncro... I figure I can attach my T-5, or # # use the AT out of the CJ-10A. But then I'd have to set it up... so # # I think the T-5 is my best option... better power transfer, overdrive... # # # # I would think that 4.10s in Superdawg will be the best option with 235s # # and the T-5. Will have it all. ;) # # # # The Nissan 3.3L Turbo Diesel I'm getting may need a rebuild... not sure... # # wondering if I shouldn't go with a Cummins 4BT rather... would suspect # # it would be a lot heavier and a lot noiser... I'm getting the 3.3 TD # # and T18 for $650... A Cummins sans gearbox will be about 2k... anyone # # got the specs for a 4bt? # # # # # # # # _________________________________________________________________ # # Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. # # http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_12 # # 2008 # # # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:30:50 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: SAE adapter plates stumbled upon the SAE adapter plate info... http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/SAE-adapter-plate.gif Not sure which adapater plate is used with the Nissan 3.3L in the IH Scout or the CJ-10s, #4? Anyone able to measure a 3.3L Nissan and tell? more info on swaps: http://cruisers.shoumatoffmedia.com/comparecummins.html http://cruisers.shoumatoffmedia.com/merc300td.html http://www.allpar.com/mopar/mitsubishi-diesel.html looks like a place in Germany even sells various SAE rings: http://krahwinkel-kpm.de/getriebe/prm/e_anbauplatten.php john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:30:33 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Re: fsj: decisions, decisions... my neighbor lost a harddrive in their laptop... was going to pay $800 to $1500 to recover the data... windows couldn't see the drive... Linux could. :) recovered their data... so now if I slide down the drive into their volvo or jeep I'll probably be forgiven if the damage is less than a couple grand, ;) http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/12-Dec-18-Snow/ALL.html don't worry about the cummins... can't afford one. ;) getting the 3.3L TD, will sort out whether the CJ-10A or the J10 gets it...depending on how much work it will be to reassemble SuperDawg... too many variables to make a decision... don't have money to buy the 300GD, so that's not a problem... the CJ-10A is complete, need to put it on a diet and maybe swap in the Turbo Diesel... my '83 J10 is in bazillion pieces, could take me some time to put him back together, won't know until I drag it home... the '80 J10 is ok, but not worth my effort to make nice... but it could provide axles for the J10 project... btw, the WJ made it out of the drive today... I think we have about a foot of snow... no worries about the carport roof this year though. :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # Hmmm......you seem to be forgetting something: we have had this discussion # before, and the conclusion was that any Cummins would simply be too heavy for # a non-full-size Jeep. You just can't comfortably put that much weight in the # front of a vehicle that is otherwise so light and have it be safe. # # If you really want to have the discussion again, I'll munch along, but I # wouldn't bank on much munching from others.... 8^) # # BTW, This is coming from a machine with no hard drive; I'm trying out a LiveCD # Linux distro intended for rescuing messed-up Windoze boxes.....it's very # nicely done! (As you can see!) www.systemrescuecd.org (not for the faint of # IT, but very usable for those who know their bits! And not really that # difficult, if you have even a rudimentary understanding of *ix OSes.) # # Waiting for the day when all cars are diesel and all computers run *ix, # # J # # -- john wrote: # snow? my buddy up in arlington has about 8 inches... we're getting snowed on # right now... temp is going to drop... but it should all be melted # by the time you come up for the Panel. ;) # # The 300GD is fine as is... but it's not "free". With a wedding soon # to happen, no word yet... need the money from selling all the other rigs. :) # # Have to work on the axle ratios for SuperDawg with the 3.3L Nissan # Turbo Diesel. I'm buying the engine with the adapter and a T-18 # that needs a 2nd gear syncro... I figure I can attach my T-5, or # use the AT out of the CJ-10A. But then I'd have to set it up... so # I think the T-5 is my best option... better power transfer, overdrive... # # I would think that 4.10s in Superdawg will be the best option with 235s # and the T-5. Will have it all. ;) # # The Nissan 3.3L Turbo Diesel I'm getting may need a rebuild... not sure... # wondering if I shouldn't go with a Cummins 4BT rather... would suspect # it would be a lot heavier and a lot noiser... I'm getting the 3.3 TD # and T18 for $650... A Cummins sans gearbox will be about 2k... anyone # got the specs for a 4bt? # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com # SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Kevin wrote: # # # J10, even if you just put a gasser six back in it and call it done. # # The benz will take too much for you to be happy with it, and I don't # # thing the airport tug is useful enough. # # # # Sometime next year when I get to shorten the commute, the jetta might get # # displaced. Will be the black XJ with a 4.0 that likely replaces it, with # the # # possibility of a diesel shoved into a four runner I'm probably going to # # end up with. The jetta almost didn't make it up the driveway on monday. I # got # # about five inches of snow in two days. My YEARLY average is about three :) # # # # On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 03:55:13PM -0800, diesel john wrote: # # > trying to decide which vehicle I want as a daily driver... :) # # > # # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/options-2008.html # # > # # > the '83 J10 stepside is in the lead... it hauls WVO barrels, topsoil, has # a sunroof and AC. :) # # > # # > and it will probably get a Nissan 3.3L Turbo Diesel... # # # # # ____________________________________________________________ # Click to become a massage therapist and work for yourself. # http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/PnY6rbtvk6OTUXlouK5fejL7Nca0q8xRr # f5oPPBn212g8HxbUOJ19/ # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:32:29 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: Re: [CJ-10List] SAE adapter plates automatic is my first choice... any 4 speed autos for bb mopars out that that would work? I've spent too much time in Mercedes and Jeep land to know... :) at this point I'm thinking the 3.3L TD I've found will go into my CJ-10A until I have time to reassemble my '83 J10 stepside... then I might put that driveline in it, or go with another 6.2L Diesel setup in it. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, david-at-lang.hm wrote: # On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, diesel john wrote: # # > what's the adapter that are used in our CJ-10As? # # it adapts from the engine to the 'big block mopar' bolt pattern, so if you # get a transmission designed for a mopar truck/motorhome/etc it should bolt # up (or an adapter designed to go to work with those engines) # # one other thing to watch out for with manual transmissions is the length # of the input shaft. this isn't speced by the SAE standard (on the scouts # it's much longer than on many vehicles) # # David Lang # # > john # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com # > SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, david-at-lang.hm wrote: # > # > # On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, diesel john wrote: # > # # > # > stumbled upon the SAE adapter plate info... # > # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/SAE-adapter-plate.gif # > # > # > # > Not sure which adapater plate is used with the Nissan 3.3L in the IH Scout or the CJ-10s, #4? # > # > Anyone able to measure a 3.3L Nissan and tell? # > # # > # the scouts use SAE#4 # > # # > # unfortunantly #4 is extensivly used in industrial applications, but almost # > # no over-the-road applications. # > # # > # David Lang # > # # > # > more info on swaps: # > # > http://cruisers.shoumatoffmedia.com/comparecummins.html # > # > http://cruisers.shoumatoffmedia.com/merc300td.html # > # > http://www.allpar.com/mopar/mitsubishi-diesel.html # > # > # > # > looks like a place in Germany even sells various SAE rings: # > # > http://krahwinkel-kpm.de/getriebe/prm/e_anbauplatten.php # > # > # > # > # > # > john # > # > # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # > http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com # > # > SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # > # > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > # > # > # # > # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:53:49 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: Re: [CJ-10List] SAE adapter plates good point, but my plan is to migrate this drivetrain into my '83 J10 stepside... it's in a million pieces right now, full frame off resto... I guess I'll swap the 3.3l TD into the CJ-10A and drive it until my J10 is ready... will give me a chance to dial it in... then I'll probably swap in a 4.2L I-6/T-18 into the '86 CJ-10a because I have one and it was one of the stock options... then sell the tug.... I bring my J10 stepside home after Christmas, will have to determine how long it'll take me to reassemble it... that will determine what I do... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, david-at-lang.hm wrote: # On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, diesel john wrote: # # > automatic is my first choice... any 4 speed autos for bb mopars out that # > that would work? I've spent too much time in Mercedes and Jeep land to # > know... :) # # probably quite a few, but I'm not that familiar with the options. # # > at this point I'm thinking the 3.3L TD I've found will go into my CJ-10A # > until I have time to reassemble my '83 J10 stepside... then I might put # > that driveline in it, or go with another 6.2L Diesel setup in it. # # the key problem to watch out for with the CJ-10a is the drivetrain length # (unless you increase the wheelbase) # # David Lang # # > john # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com # > SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, david-at-lang.hm wrote: # > # > # On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, diesel john wrote: # > # # > # > what's the adapter that are used in our CJ-10As? # > # # > # it adapts from the engine to the 'big block mopar' bolt pattern, so if you # > # get a transmission designed for a mopar truck/motorhome/etc it should bolt # > # up (or an adapter designed to go to work with those engines) # > # # > # one other thing to watch out for with manual transmissions is the length # > # of the input shaft. this isn't speced by the SAE standard (on the scouts # > # it's much longer than on many vehicles) # > # # > # David Lang # > # # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # > http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com # > # > SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # > # > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > # > # > # > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, david-at-lang.hm wrote: # > # > # > # > # On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, diesel john wrote: # > # > # # > # > # > stumbled upon the SAE adapter plate info... # > # > # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/SAE-adapter-plate.gif # > # > # > # > # > # > Not sure which adapater plate is used with the Nissan 3.3L in the IH Scout or the CJ-10s, #4? # > # > # > Anyone able to measure a 3.3L Nissan and tell? # > # > # # > # > # the scouts use SAE#4 # > # > # # > # > # unfortunantly #4 is extensivly used in industrial applications, but almost # > # > # no over-the-road applications. # > # > # # > # > # David Lang # > # > # # > # > # > more info on swaps: # > # > # > http://cruisers.shoumatoffmedia.com/comparecummins.html # > # > # > http://cruisers.shoumatoffmedia.com/merc300td.html # > # > # > http://www.allpar.com/mopar/mitsubishi-diesel.html # > # > # > # > # > # > looks like a place in Germany even sells various SAE rings: # > # > # > http://krahwinkel-kpm.de/getriebe/prm/e_anbauplatten.php # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > john # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # > # > http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com # > # > # > SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # > # > # > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # # > # > # > # # > # ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3225 **************************