From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Wed Jan 21 16:55:29 2009 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Thursday, January 22 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3247 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Diesel-electric drivetrains fsj: Re: [db] What to do with a beatup old benz fsj: Re: [db] What to do with a beatup old benz FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:35:38 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Diesel-electric drivetrains # http://rqriley.com/xr3.htm I like the Diesel-electric idea... biggest cost to these conversions, besides the batteries, is the electric motor... no indication of what that costs... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 20 Jan 2009, Travis Barnard wrote: # This was another project I was looking into # # http://rqriley.com/xr3.htm # # # On Jan 20, 2009, at 1:55 PM, john wrote: # # >this is interesting... popular science did some work on hydraulics in the # >mid-80s... # > # >http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3003264 # > # >the VW TDI hybrid setup is interesting... wonder if an electric setup could # >work # >with this as well... # > # >john # > ----- # >------------------------------------------------------------------------ # >Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # >http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com # >SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # >SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # >------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # >On Tue, 20 Jan 2009, Moontanman-at-aol.com wrote: # > # > # Has anyone seen this type of conversion? # > # # > # http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3003264 # > # # > # # > # Michael Hissom # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:48:07 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] What to do with a beatup old benz yeah, and I did that on the fly between other emails and such... some times all the synapses fire just right... other times, well, I have to be reminded that I already dismissed this or that idea. :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 20 Jan 2009, ejpomeroy-at-qtm.net wrote: # It is truly scary to think that John and others on this list parallel my # experience with vehicles so closely. Drove a VW bus loaded with my worldly # posessions from Phoenix to Michigan for my first full time career job in # 79. I think I averaged 45 MPH for the whole distance, especially that # climb from Phoenix to Flagstaff!!! which was first gear and maybe 12 MPH?! # # As to what to do with an old Benz, wow John. That was the most lucid # writeup and warning I have ever read, you must be getting a bit more tame # as you age ;-) but I will stock up on the popcorn anyway. # # # > you know what? I forgot I actually owned a VW bus for a short time... I # > think # > I bought it for some parts to use on something else... remember taking the # > rear shafts # > off for some reason... was I going to turn it into a trailer??? was # > around 1989-1991... # > don't have it on my list. ;) http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com # > SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # > SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Tue, 20 Jan 2009, Jerome Kaidor wrote: # > # > # Travis Barnard wrote: # > # > # > # > # > # > Can it really be worse than driving 78' VW Bus? # > # > # > # *** Hey, I resemble that remark.... # > # # > # The mid-70's 2-liter buses weren't THAT bad. I had one - even had # > air # > # conditioning. Really saved my youknowwhat the time I drove to LA and # > back # > # to pick up a sidecar rig. # > # # > # - Jerry # > # # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:54:50 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: [db] What to do with a beatup old benz On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Travis Barnard wrote: # I was driving to work this morning when I realized there was another snag in # this project. # # Emissions testing # # A newer car means emissions testing since the title will say 2001, does # anyone know much about Washington state titles and emissions laws? Can I get # an exception? How many millions of dollars will that cost me? it'll cost you $18. serious. oh, yeah, and then another $15 to run the test. just did it... you go to any license agency and ask to retitle your vehicle as a Diesel. The title shows up with a notice to be emissions tested. You go down and they test it. end of story. used to be that we had to have a state police inspection complete with receipts to make the change, but no more... :) happy projecting. :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # On Jan 20, 2009, at 3:15 PM, john wrote: # # >Travis, # > # >Keep shopping for a WJ with a blown engine... almost picked up a limited # >for $1500. If people don't keep the oil changed properly in that 4.7L V8 # >it sludges up and has top end issues... I only run Amsoil synthetics so # >mine is doing great at 155K miles. Also, if you use the puss that the # >minute lubes and dealerships use and don't change it every couple thousand # >miles you'll also see top end failure... so there's a lot of WJs showing # >up needing engine work... and that engine work is EXPENSIVE. A wrecking # >yard will get nearly $2500 for a USED engine... a rebuild even done with # >local sources and labor can run 3-4k with labor! # > # >john # > # > ----- # >------------------------------------------------------------------------ # >Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # >http://johnmeister.com/fotomeister - Trust Jesus: http://freegift.com # >SAVE power, avoid viruses, use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # >SAVE fuel, use synthetics: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # >------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # >On Tue, 20 Jan 2009, Travis Barnard wrote: # > # > # I've been recently looking into a replacement body for my beatup and # > # rather thrashed 300SD(I think Adam Sandler had a song about a car like # > # this). # > # # > # The engine is in great shape 230K +/- very strong. With the recent # > # downturn I have found a 2001 Grand Cherokee Limited for under 5k and # > # after doing a little research it appears that the Jeep is only about # > # 300lbs heavier than my Benz. I know that the 5cyl turbo diesels are a # > # bit anemic by most peoples standards but I'm really not speed freak # > # anymore; a couple of years driving a VW Bus will fix that for anyone. # > # So my question is this, does anyone have any experience transplanting # > # motors in Jeep's and of course any concerns I should be researching # > # before going further with such a crazy notion? # > # # ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3247 **************************