From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Wed Nov 25 21:33:11 2009 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Thursday, November 26 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3473 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: list member makes the news! RE: fsj: list member makes the news! fsj: I think I burnt the popcorn... RE: fsj: list member makes the news! fsj: OT: FW: Monster shredder (fwd) fsj: how did this spark plug get damaged? fsj: Re: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? RE: fsj: Re: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? fsj: RE: how did this spark plug get damaged? RE: fsj: Re: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? [none] fsj: '79 J10 258 items RE: fsj: '79 J10 258 items fsj: IH Scout info ? Dual AMC V8 PS pump option soon to be available? Hydroboost what? RE: fsj: RE: how did this spark plug get damaged? FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:41:13 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: list member makes the news! Landfill stink and noise? _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:58:57 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: list member makes the news! did you read the article? :) it's the pressure release valve that whistles... it's actually quite interesting, but I'll let the list member tell it... he's the expert... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Jim Blair wrote: # # Landfill stink and noise? # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:07:09 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: I think I burnt the popcorn... RE: 4.0L in 2000 WJ that lost a rad hose, the guy replaced it, not sure how far he drove it like that... after the new hose he started to drive it and it slowly lost power then died... the shop that towed it suspected a blown head gasket... - ----------------------------- got a new battery today... pulled the plugs... #2 looked like it was introduced to the piston. engine cranked freely with no funny rattling sounds with no plugs in... sounded weird... turned so easy. compression test showed (from 1 to 5...) 145lbs, **ZERO**, 30, 30, 145, didn't bother to reach back to read #6. I took pictures of the plug, will post 'em tomorrow sometime... I'm not sure if there is internal damage or not yet... next step is to pull the head... can see a ding on #2 piston... the good news is I found several 4.0's with less than 100k on them for $800-$1500. Will tear this down and try to fix it... until the tug sells I won't have the cash to buy a replacement engine... no worries. here's what it looks like: (traded the white '89 XJ limited for this) http://wagoneers.com/WJ/rigs/2000-WJ-4.0-Nov-2009/ALL.html if you have kids, or are a fan of the movie CARS, someone created "Tow Mater" http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-22-TowMater-SnoHomish/ALL.html ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:47:48 -0800 From: "Paul & Megan" Subject: RE: fsj: list member makes the news! Geez John. Now you've got me esplainin' thins... The VPSA (Vacuum Pressure Swing Adsorbtion) system removes N2 from the landfill gas by adsorbing N2 molecules at a high pressure, say 100 psig and then depressurizing rapidly (to a vacuum) to desorb the N2. Some valves open to let Landfill gas (CH4 and N2, mainly) in, then other valves open to let the N2 rich gas out. The whistling noise comes from depressurizing through a small orifice like the valve. We also have buffer tanks in that system that do a similar thing, but they groan instead of whistle... It's a very interesting process involving taking out water, various organic compounds, siloxanes, H2S, CO2, O2, N2 and then pressurizing it to inject into the Williams pipeline and ultimately to sell it to the Natural Gas Utility (PSE). - -Paul - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:59 PM To: Jim Blair Cc: local Jeep list; abcvoice-at-worldnet.att.net; bmax65-at-yahoo.com; bull2-at-verizon.net; dzashby-at-comcast.net; grhubert-at-sbcglobal.net; urban.farmer-at-verizon.net; k9radio-at-att.net; Kevin Pekarek; mk_camper-at-yahoo.com; mike-at-graydogdesign.com; lasikeyes-at-msn.com; Paul and Megan Kershner; cyberwes-at-qwestoffice.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: RE: fsj: list member makes the news! did you read the article? :) it's the pressure release valve that whistles... it's actually quite interesting, but I'll let the list member tell it... he's the expert... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Jim Blair wrote: # # Landfill stink and noise? # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:05:06 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: OT: FW: Monster shredder (fwd) need to get rid of some old parts... tires... furniture or appliances??? check this out... http://www.ssiworld.com/watch/the_monster.htm ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:49:16 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: fsj: how did this spark plug get damaged? REF: 2000 4.0L in Grand Cherokee.. lost rad hose... overheated and bad head gasket... but trying to figure out what happened to #2 spark plug... #2 plug suffered greatly... when I get the head off I'll know to what extent... pictures of the plugs at: http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5804_2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5805_2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg Pulled the plugs and did a compression test last night. #1 - 145 #2 - ZERO, NADA, Zip... an O with the rim kicked off... #3 - 30 #4 - 30 #5 - 145 #6 - didn't bother... pictures of the mountains etc. here: http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/ALL.html ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:01:43 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? piston hit it... can see the mark on the piston through the spark plug hole... but why??? they're not supposed to do that. :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Mike Petersen wrote: # It either sucked a valve or the piston hit it. Any way you look at it, it's # ugly. # # # ----- Original Message ----- From: "diesel john" # To: "undisclosed-recipients:" # Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:49 PM # Subject: xj: how did this spark plug get damaged? # # # > REF: 2000 4.0L in Grand Cherokee.. lost rad hose... overheated and bad head # > gasket... # > # > but trying to figure out what happened to #2 spark plug... # > # > #2 plug suffered greatly... when I get the head off I'll know to what # > extent... # > # > pictures of the plugs at: # > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5804_2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5805_2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg # > # > # > # > # > # > Pulled the plugs and did a compression test last night. # > # > #1 - 145 # > #2 - ZERO, NADA, Zip... an O with the rim kicked off... # > #3 - 30 # > #4 - 30 # > #5 - 145 # > #6 - didn't bother... # > # > # > pictures of the mountains etc. here: # > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/ALL.html # > # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:21:14 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Re: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? Bad rod bearing or the motor ingested something it shouldn't have > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:01:43 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: xj-at-digest.net > CC: fsj-at-digest.net; timesawastin-at-bigpond.com; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com > Subject: fsj: Re: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? > > piston hit it... can see the mark on the piston through the spark plug hole... > but why??? they're not supposed to do that. :) > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Mike Petersen wrote: > > # It either sucked a valve or the piston hit it. Any way you look at it, it's > # ugly. > # > # > # ----- Original Message ----- From: "diesel john" > # To: "undisclosed-recipients:" > # Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:49 PM > # Subject: xj: how did this spark plug get damaged? > # > # > # > REF: 2000 4.0L in Grand Cherokee.. lost rad hose... overheated and bad head > # > gasket... > # > > # > but trying to figure out what happened to #2 spark plug... > # > > # > #2 plug suffered greatly... when I get the head off I'll know to what > # > extent... > # > > # > pictures of the plugs at: > # > > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5804_2 nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5805_2 nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > Pulled the plugs and did a compression test last night. > # > > # > #1 - 145 > # > #2 - ZERO, NADA, Zip... an O with the rim kicked off... > # > #3 - 30 > # > #4 - 30 > # > #5 - 145 > # > #6 - didn't bother... > # > > # > > # > pictures of the mountains etc. here: > # > > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/ALL.html > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > ----- > # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID2472 7::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:29:00 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: RE: how did this spark plug get damaged? would a blown head gasket do this??? the engine didn't rattle when cranked with no plugs in it... the crankcase has about three extra quarts worth of fluid in it... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Bob Brooks wrote: # John; # # Just a guess, but I'd expect to see a dropped valve and a piston with some # rather large dents # # Bob # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of diesel # john # Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:49 PM # To: undisclosed-recipients: # Subject: fsj: how did this spark plug get damaged? # # REF: 2000 4.0L in Grand Cherokee.. lost rad hose... overheated and bad head # gasket... # # but trying to figure out what happened to #2 spark plug... # # #2 plug suffered greatly... when I get the head off I'll know to what # extent... # # pictures of the plugs at: # # http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5804_ # 2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg # http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5805_ # 2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg # # # # # # Pulled the plugs and did a compression test last night. # # #1 - 145 # #2 - ZERO, NADA, Zip... an O with the rim kicked off... # #3 - 30 # #4 - 30 # #5 - 145 # #6 - didn't bother... # # # pictures of the mountains etc. here: # # http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/ALL.html # # # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:29:32 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: Re: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? want to help open this thing up and discover the mystery? you'll be first on the scene... ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Jim Blair wrote: # Bad rod bearing or the motor ingested something it shouldn't have # # > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:01:43 -0800 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: xj-at-digest.net # > CC: fsj-at-digest.net; timesawastin-at-bigpond.com; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com # > Subject: fsj: Re: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? # > # > piston hit it... can see the mark on the piston through the spark plug hole... # > but why??? they're not supposed to do that. :) # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Mike Petersen wrote: # > # > # It either sucked a valve or the piston hit it. Any way you look at it, it's # > # ugly. # > # # > # # > # ----- Original Message ----- From: "diesel john" # > # To: "undisclosed-recipients:" # > # Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:49 PM # > # Subject: xj: how did this spark plug get damaged? # > # # > # # > # > REF: 2000 4.0L in Grand Cherokee.. lost rad hose... overheated and bad head # > # > gasket... # > # > # > # > but trying to figure out what happened to #2 spark plug... # > # > # > # > #2 plug suffered greatly... when I get the head off I'll know to what # > # > extent... # > # > # > # > pictures of the plugs at: # > # > # > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5804_2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg # > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5805_2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > Pulled the plugs and did a compression test last night. # > # > # > # > #1 - 145 # > # > #2 - ZERO, NADA, Zip... an O with the rim kicked off... # > # > #3 - 30 # > # > #4 - 30 # > # > #5 - 145 # > # > #6 - didn't bother... # > # > # > # > # > # > pictures of the mountains etc. here: # > # > # > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/ALL.html # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # # # _________________________________________________________________ # Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. # http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:27:07 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: [none] No time. Just came from my cabin (busy with surveyor and sorting out parts to bring back) have to tow D-in-law's jeep here tomorrow after dropping wife at work and hopefully the frame will be straight enough by 4 that she can drive it to dinner. Then wife and I will be at her friends for dinner and Friday I will be playing musical cars at the cabin so I can bring the '67 GMC stepside home to part out. Couldn't get a tire swapped today for my trailer. Did you know tire shops will NOT put tires on over 10 years old now due to some law? (I can see on cars but a utility trailer?) _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:49:31 -0600 From: Kim Tesar Subject: fsj: '79 J10 258 items Hello all, I've not seen this thing yet, but would like to resolve as many issues as possible before getting it Saturday. Current owner replaced the starter without improvement. He is saying if the truck does not start, the starter is freewheeling. Could the starter relay/solenoid switch be part of this? Clutch safety switch? Ignition switch? Also, the gauges (I expect electric ammeter, fuel, oil?) are not working. Is there a main ground point to look for? Thanks for help on this. - - Landon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:25:19 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: '79 J10 258 items Flywheel probably has a bad tooth or 2. (often autoparts places put Ford short starter drives in, claiming they are the same, but they are not! They tear up the teeth on the flywheel) Gauges (except the ammeter) are controlled by a 5VDC voltage controller built into the temp gauge. When they go out, people usually add an aftermarket controller (I used to have the numbers for the bits from Radioshack, but that was years ago) or put in new gauges because they don't know how they work. If the Ammeter doesn't work, it's either been bypassed or burnt out. Voltmeter is FAR more efficient at telling you what is happening. Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 - ---------------------------------------- > To: fsj-at-digest.net > From: ltesar3421-at-sbcglobal.net > Subject: fsj: '79 J10 258 items > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:49:31 -0600 > > Hello all, > > I've not seen this thing yet, but would like to resolve as many > issues as possible before getting it Saturday. > > Current owner replaced the starter without improvement. He is saying > if the truck does not start, the starter is freewheeling. Could the > starter relay/solenoid switch be part of this? Clutch safety > switch? Ignition switch? > > Also, the gauges (I expect electric ammeter, fuel, oil?) are not > working. Is there a main ground point to look for? > > Thanks for help on this. > > - Landon _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M FESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:31:05 -0800 (PST) From: elliott sydnam Subject: fsj: IH Scout info ? Dual AMC V8 PS pump option soon to be available? Hydroboost what? Hey all, Do any of you have a Scout I can get a measurement from to help me fit a hydroboost? If so, I'm looking at the Scout II and need a measurement from the center of the hole in the pushrod for the MC, where it attaches at the brake pedal.... straight forward to the inside of the firewall or if you happen to have a manual braked rig and the MC is removed then it's real easy to measure to the mounting surface of the MC to the center of the hole in the rod. Thought I'd check with you folk since most of the binder guys can't seem to get an accurate measurement back to me for me to help them out so I'm guessing at this and right now I have 4.80". Let me know the year and what you come up with if you have one. Thanks! Oh and anyone interested in running dual PS pumps, on an AMC V8, to designate one strictly for hydroboost.... get ahold of me... I have worked out and will have it trail tested soon which means I'll have brackets available for a DIY or I can provide all of it if needed. If you have a hydroost need, get ahold of me;) I'm talking C3 Vette, '69 binder, FJ40, tri 5 Chevy, whatever... I can do up your trans am also... Elliott ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:32:14 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: RE: how did this spark plug get damaged? Most likely the chunk got stuck between the piston, cylinder wall and the head, like the '90 we parted at your place. It slams in like a splitting maul and "voil`!", instant "firewood" and the antifreeze goes into the motor oil! Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 - ---------------------------------------- > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:29:00 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: rbrooks-at-hvc.rr.com > CC: xj-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com; fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: RE: how did this spark plug get damaged? > > would a blown head gasket do this??? > > the engine didn't rattle when cranked with no plugs in it... > > the crankcase has about three extra quarts worth of fluid in it... > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Bob Brooks wrote: > > # John; > # > # Just a guess, but I'd expect to see a dropped valve and a piston with some > # rather large dents > # > # Bob > # > # -----Original Message----- > # From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of diesel > # john > # Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:49 PM > # To: undisclosed-recipients: > # Subject: fsj: how did this spark plug get damaged? > # > # REF: 2000 4.0L in Grand Cherokee.. lost rad hose... overheated and bad head > # gasket... > # > # but trying to figure out what happened to #2 spark plug... > # > # #2 plug suffered greatly... when I get the head off I'll know to what > # extent... > # > # pictures of the plugs at: > # > # http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5804_ > # 2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg > # http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5805_ > # 2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg > # > # > # > # > # > # Pulled the plugs and did a compression test last night. > # > # #1 - 145 > # #2 - ZERO, NADA, Zip... an O with the rim kicked off... > # #3 - 30 > # #4 - 30 > # #5 - 145 > # #6 - didn't bother... > # > # > # pictures of the mountains etc. here: > # > # http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/ALL.html > # > # > # > # > # ----- > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3473 **************************