From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Wed Jan 6 19:43:57 2010 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Thursday, January 7 2010 Volume 01 : Number 3508 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: update on the snohomish monster carport... fsj: 1981 Wagoneer Limited with 43.000 original miles? fsj: power window regulators Re: fsj: TH400 modulator,my popcorn fsj: RE: power window regulators Re: fsj: RE: power window regulators fsj: Re: xj: power window regulators Re: fsj: Re: xj: power window regulators fsj: Re: update on the snohomish monster carport... Re: fsj: Re: update on the snohomish monster carport... RE: fsj: RE: power window regulators RE: fsj: needed: dipstick for 1975 J10 w/360 fsj: pilot bushing, or more expensive parts for my shelf... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 21:16:22 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: update on the snohomish monster carport... - --------------------------------------- '89 XJ: DRIVERS SIDE WINDOW - took the door panel off... have voltage at the window motor... but it's not working, suspect the window regulator is dead... applied voltage directly to the connections, nothing... These things are riveted in, oh boy, fun times ahead on this one... *** ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET A POWER WINDOW UP MANUALLY? *** ANY GOOD SOURCES? replaced the driver's side mirror glass, pretty straight forward stick on, hope it stays stuck. TIRES- found out why I wasn't getting traction on wet roads, tires have PLENTY of tread, tire pressure was over 40 PSI... hard to get traction that way... :) title- maybe tomorrow... yesterday the license place was backed up out the door... we had number 60, they were serving 12 with a few minutes to closing... next is the stereo, maybe an alarm, then off to the sunroof/headliner shop. maybe I'll get a glass shop to fix the regulator, tune up the sunroof and reglue the headliner... otherwise running good... tracks straight... nice little jeep... - --------------------------------------- '91 300D: not sure what the problem was, wouldn't start earlier today... but I got it running again, added a couple of gallons of fuel and it was able to start, BUT the fuel reserve light never came on, needle was off of E and it had been running great... suspect it might be an issue with bioDiesel contamination in the tank, my filters were pretty crummy last change out... so, I think we're ok on the benz. added some Amsoil Diesel Concentrate Additive... have filters in the trunk... added 7 gallons and the needle is showing 1/2, so there must have been fuel in there... (20 gal tank) heading off to a station in everett tomorrow... 2.69 or so for Diesel... vs. 3.00 something - --------------------------------------- '00 WJ: had the grand cherokee laredo towed on a tiltbed to jim startups... he'll finish the 4.0 install and make sure it's all proper and right, then it'll go up for sale as planned... or it might be pressed into service, who knows... - --------------------------------------- '99 WJ: so far, no problems, running well, but still could use a heater core... - --------------------------------------- '83 J10 stepside: no idea... no calls, no email... need it now more than ever. - --------------------------------------- in the meantime, considering a couple Diesel pickups... hoping to hear on mine first... found an '86 ranger with a TD and 5 speed, but no a/c, and an '86 f250 6.9 w/ats turbo, at, ac, 4x4... looks ok... but what will it get? 13-16 mpg in town? and it's just too big... really need my J10. Trying to avoid buying anything else right now... but I need something to work. :) Pretty amazing... was down to one vehicle today... wow. ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:16:52 -0500 From: wallacem7-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: 1981 Wagoneer Limited with 43.000 original miles? 81 Wag Limited with 43,000 original miles? Wow. is it well preserved? How's the interior? What's the story behind the low miles? Why was it parked? Has it sat for a long time? does the last registration sticker date to when Reagan was in office? Does it leak? How bad is the electrical? What is the date of production? Any rodents? Somewhere I have a 1981 Wagoneer Sales Brochure (with previously mentioned pictures of women with Farah Faucett hair) I will do some digging to try and find it and I can give you at least the names for the 1981 colors. My 81 Wag Limited has 235,000 miles and it is not well preserved. Mark Wallace 81 Wag ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 22:28:39 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: power window regulators any good sources for a driver's side power window regulator for an '89 Cherokee? ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 00:27:42 -0600 From: Kim Tesar Subject: Re: fsj: TH400 modulator,my popcorn Good deal, Michel, Jim. I bet it runs better too. I got the bellhousing on, (with the throwout bearing actually on the clutch fork) and coaxed the engine into place. The engine is not yet bolted to the bellhousing, but looks to be lined up well. The oil filter was a very good motor mount as it rested on the frame part of the mount - a sacrificial filter. Landon 79 J 10, 258 with a healthy flywheel On Jan 4, 2010, at 8:03 PM, Michel Balea wrote: > Jim was right, a few weeks ago, I inquired about major fog on > startup on the > 66 project. > > I had a chance to go to the wagoneer repository.... vacuum tested the > modulator.... it was not even holding vacuum. I plugged the intake > manifold > hose, fired the beast... which starts really well with 5 year old > gas in it, > but the oil has barely 30 minutes of run time..... the smoke is > practically > gone.... and the best part is that it can move.... with the leaky > modulator, > putting any gear resulted in NO motion. > Now it is time to add a voltmeter, and connect the temp gauge, the > wiring is > history as in cooked wires. > I really need a voltmeter, as my battery was indicating a higher > voltage when > I put it back in the 74, no jumper cable were used in this > experiment..... the > alternator #1 plug/spade has no wires connected to it?! > > Cheers > > Michel > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 22:35:36 -0800 From: "Joe Hughes" Subject: fsj: RE: power window regulators Lynnwood Pull-a-Part always as at least a half dozen XJ's. Joe H. Everett, WA - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:29 PM To: xj-list; David Ashby; full size jeep list Subject: fsj: power window regulators any good sources for a driver's side power window regulator for an '89 Cherokee? ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 22:50:32 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: RE: power window regulators thanx. a buddy called, he's got an 89 xj as well, he found the motors at napa, o'reillys and we suspect pep boys, in the 80 range new... would be cheaper at the pull a part, but more hassle. can't think of anything else my xj needs right off... other than paperwork. ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Joe Hughes wrote: # Lynnwood Pull-a-Part always as at least a half dozen XJ's. # # Joe H. # Everett, WA # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john # Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:29 PM # To: xj-list; David Ashby; full size jeep list # Subject: fsj: power window regulators # # any good sources for a driver's side power window regulator for an '89 # Cherokee? # # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 22:55:56 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: fsj: Re: xj: power window regulators Tape style? It's available at NAPA, but pass if the plastic is discolored (that means it's been laying around too long) You should be able to pull the screws from the motor and pull the window up. Written laws are like spiders' webs, and will like them only Entangle and hold the poor and weak, while the rich and powerful will easily break through them ANACHARSIS Scythian philosopher (fl. 600 BC) From: john Subject: xj: power window regulators any good sources for a driver's side power window regulator for an '89 Cherokee? _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 23:12:59 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: xj: power window regulators looks like a cable drive to me ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Jim Blair wrote: # Tape style? It's available at NAPA, but pass if the plastic is discolored # (that means it's been laying around too long) You should be able to pull the # screws from the motor and pull the window up. # # Written laws are like spiders' webs, and will # like them only Entangle and hold the poor and # weak, while the rich and powerful will easily # break through them # # ANACHARSIS Scythian philosopher (fl. 600 BC) # From: john # Subject: xj: power window regulators # # any good sources for a driver's side power window regulator for an '89 # Cherokee? # # _________________________________________________________________ # Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. # http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 07:17:20 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: update on the snohomish monster carport... > *** ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET A POWER WINDOW UP MANUALLY? *** ANY GOOD SOURCES? i haven't worked on my XJ pwr regulators, but i'd guess that you disconnect the glass from the regulator arm. then pull/push the glass up into the channel. Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "undisclosed-recipients:" Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:16 AM Subject: fsj: update on the snohomish monster carport... > --------------------------------------- > '89 XJ: > DRIVERS SIDE WINDOW - took the door panel off... have voltage at the > window motor... > but it's not working, suspect the window regulator is dead... applied > voltage directly to the > connections, nothing... These things are riveted in, oh boy, fun times > ahead on this one... > > *** ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET A POWER WINDOW UP MANUALLY? *** > ANY GOOD SOURCES? > > replaced the driver's side mirror glass, pretty straight forward stick on, > hope it stays stuck. > > TIRES- found out why I wasn't getting traction on wet roads, tires have > PLENTY of tread, > tire pressure was over 40 PSI... hard to get traction that way... :) > > title- maybe tomorrow... yesterday the license place was backed up out the > door... > we had number 60, they were serving 12 with a few minutes to closing... > > next is the stereo, maybe an alarm, then off to the sunroof/headliner > shop. > maybe I'll get a glass shop to fix the regulator, tune up the sunroof and > reglue the headliner... > > otherwise running good... tracks straight... nice little jeep... > --------------------------------------- > '91 300D: > not sure what the problem was, wouldn't start earlier today... > but I got it running again, added a couple of gallons of fuel and it was > able to start, > BUT the fuel reserve light never came on, needle was off of E and it had > been > running great... suspect it might be an issue with bioDiesel contamination > in the tank, > my filters were pretty crummy last change out... so, I think we're ok on > the benz. > added some Amsoil Diesel Concentrate Additive... have filters in the > trunk... added > 7 gallons and the needle is showing 1/2, so there must have been fuel in > there... (20 gal tank) > heading off to a station in everett tomorrow... 2.69 or so for Diesel... > vs. 3.00 something > --------------------------------------- > '00 WJ: > had the grand cherokee laredo towed on a tiltbed to jim startups... he'll > finish > the 4.0 install and make sure it's all proper and right, then it'll go up > for sale > as planned... or it might be pressed into service, who knows... > --------------------------------------- > '99 WJ: > so far, no problems, running well, but still could use a heater core... > > --------------------------------------- > '83 J10 stepside: no idea... no calls, no email... need it now more > than ever. > --------------------------------------- > > in the meantime, considering a couple Diesel pickups... hoping to hear on > mine first... > found an '86 ranger with a TD and 5 speed, but no a/c, and an '86 f250 6.9 > w/ats turbo, at, ac, 4x4... > looks ok... but what will it get? 13-16 mpg in town? and it's just too > big... really > need my J10. Trying to avoid buying anything else right now... but I > need something to work. :) > > Pretty amazing... was down to one vehicle today... wow. > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 08:09:34 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: update on the snohomish monster carport... yeah, but would it stay there? not been my experience. ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 6 Jan 2010, Neal Hoover wrote: # > *** ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET A POWER WINDOW UP MANUALLY? *** # ANY GOOD SOURCES? # # i haven't worked on my XJ pwr regulators, but i'd guess that you disconnect # the glass from the regulator arm. then pull/push the glass up into the # channel. # # # Neal A. Hoover # Project '76 J-10 # Project '96 XJ # http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj # # ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" # To: "undisclosed-recipients:" # Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:16 AM # Subject: fsj: update on the snohomish monster carport... # # # > --------------------------------------- # > '89 XJ: # > DRIVERS SIDE WINDOW - took the door panel off... have voltage at the window # > motor... # > but it's not working, suspect the window regulator is dead... applied # > voltage directly to the # > connections, nothing... These things are riveted in, oh boy, fun times # > ahead on this one... # > # > *** ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET A POWER WINDOW UP MANUALLY? *** # > ANY GOOD SOURCES? # > # > replaced the driver's side mirror glass, pretty straight forward stick on, # > hope it stays stuck. # > # > TIRES- found out why I wasn't getting traction on wet roads, tires have # > PLENTY of tread, # > tire pressure was over 40 PSI... hard to get traction that way... :) # > # > title- maybe tomorrow... yesterday the license place was backed up out the # > door... # > we had number 60, they were serving 12 with a few minutes to closing... # > # > next is the stereo, maybe an alarm, then off to the sunroof/headliner shop. # > maybe I'll get a glass shop to fix the regulator, tune up the sunroof and # > reglue the headliner... # > # > otherwise running good... tracks straight... nice little jeep... # > --------------------------------------- # > '91 300D: # > not sure what the problem was, wouldn't start earlier today... # > but I got it running again, added a couple of gallons of fuel and it was # > able to start, # > BUT the fuel reserve light never came on, needle was off of E and it had # > been # > running great... suspect it might be an issue with bioDiesel contamination # > in the tank, # > my filters were pretty crummy last change out... so, I think we're ok on # > the benz. # > added some Amsoil Diesel Concentrate Additive... have filters in the # > trunk... added # > 7 gallons and the needle is showing 1/2, so there must have been fuel in # > there... (20 gal tank) # > heading off to a station in everett tomorrow... 2.69 or so for Diesel... # > vs. 3.00 something # > --------------------------------------- # > '00 WJ: # > had the grand cherokee laredo towed on a tiltbed to jim startups... he'll # > finish # > the 4.0 install and make sure it's all proper and right, then it'll go up # > for sale # > as planned... or it might be pressed into service, who knows... # > --------------------------------------- # > '99 WJ: # > so far, no problems, running well, but still could use a heater core... # > # > --------------------------------------- # > '83 J10 stepside: no idea... no calls, no email... need it now more than # > ever. # > --------------------------------------- # > # > in the meantime, considering a couple Diesel pickups... hoping to hear on # > mine first... # > found an '86 ranger with a TD and 5 speed, but no a/c, and an '86 f250 6.9 # > w/ats turbo, at, ac, 4x4... # > looks ok... but what will it get? 13-16 mpg in town? and it's just too # > big... really # > need my J10. Trying to avoid buying anything else right now... but I # > need something to work. :) # > # > Pretty amazing... was down to one vehicle today... wow. # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 09:41:29 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: RE: power window regulators I'd sooner swap the whole door (if I can find a matching color) That takes me about 1/2 an hour per side. (Did the Pass door on my daughter -in-law's Jeep a couple weeks back when it got crunched) Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 22:50:32 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: joe-at-j-hughes.com > CC: xj-at-digest.net; DZAshby-at-comcast.net; fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: fsj: RE: power window regulators > > thanx. a buddy called, he's got an 89 xj as well, > he found the motors at napa, o'reillys and we suspect pep boys, > in the 80 range new... would be cheaper at the pull a part, > but more hassle. > > can't think of anything else my xj needs right off... other than paperwork. ;) > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Joe Hughes wrote: > > # Lynnwood Pull-a-Part always as at least a half dozen XJ's. > # > # Joe H. > # Everett, WA > # > # -----Original Message----- > # From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john > # Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:29 PM > # To: xj-list; David Ashby; full size jeep list > # Subject: fsj: power window regulators > # > # any good sources for a driver's side power window regulator for an '89 > # Cherokee? > # > # > # > # ----- > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 09:49:09 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: needed: dipstick for 1975 J10 w/360 http://bjsoffroad.com has them. I hear people use the GM chrome tubes but have to grind off the coating at the bottom. From: Dan Black Subject: fsj: needed: dipstick for 1975 J10 w/360 Subject pretty much covers it. A friend of a friend is looking for an oil dipstick for a '75 J10 with a 360. Please reply to me. Thanks! _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 19:43:14 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: pilot bushing, or more expensive parts for my shelf... found out why the engine didn't go in... forgot to remove the pilot bushing... the replacement engine was a manual transmission version... I didn't even think about something like that, I usually deal with automatics. argghh... will make a nice paperweight... along with piston #2... anyway, the '00 WJ should be put back together tomorrow. will clean it up, test it out and get it up for sale... below are some pictures of it being towed to the shop yesterday, also a picture of the XJ in the carport, still need a driver's side window motor... but coming together, still waiting for the title... any day now... I hope I won't be saying this for much longer... the benz started and drove ok... still smelling some Diesel, but I suspect it's what's in the belly pan after the glowplug repair... glow plug light still comes on after starting, need to check those again... arghhh... heard from curtis, he's having some health issues with his thyroid, not good, his heart meds may be causing it... they finally figured out what's going on... he says superdawg is progressing... hoping he reassembles, I can get it running, and if he can make it all one color that will be a big bonus... going to look at an '86 ford ranger turbo Diesel with a 5 speed tomorrow... 29mpg, good for hauling WVO... much better than a '91 300D or a thirsty gas powered WJ. :) here's a picture of the sunrise this morning... :) http://fotomeister.us/2010/01-Jan-06-wj-tow-sunrise/ALL.html so, we're back up to two vehicles today... tomorrow could be five... strange days in the snohomish monster carport... ;) '83 J10 - waiting for reassembly... '89 XJ - waiting for title, needs window motor... '91 300D - working... for now '99 WJ - happily drinking gasoline '00 WJ - doing well under professional care - might be done tomorrow. '86 ranger turbo Diesel - under consideration - test drive at noon tomorrow - superdawg stand in... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3508 **************************