From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Wed Jan 13 08:22:48 2010 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, January 13 2010 Volume 01 : Number 3514 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: emblems fsj: jeep day 011110 RE: fsj: jeep day 011110 RE: [db] RE: fsj: popcorn update Re: fsj: jeep day 011110 fsj: popcorn summary report fsj: FYI: Boeing 787 Plant, Charleston, SC (OT) fsj: retrofitting newer door to old style latch FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:25:08 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: emblems the v6 emblems: http://wagoneers.com/tmp/GekleurtV6.jpg # 1966-1971 - Dauntless 225 V6b^T225.3 CID (3,692 cc), 3.75 in (95 mm) bore, 3.40 in (86 mm) stroke, 160 hp (119 kW) and 235 ftB7lbf (318 NB7m)[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Jeepster#C-101 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser_Dauntless_engine#225 Dauntless In 1965, Kaiser-Jeep began using the Buick 225 in Jeep CJs. It was known as the Dauntless 225 and used a much heavier flywheel than the Buick version to dampen vibrations resulting from the engine's firing pattern. Buick sold the tooling for this engine to Kaiser in 1967, as the demand for the engine was waning steadily in an era of V8s and muscle cars. When American Motors (AMC) bought Jeep, they replaced the V6 with AMC Straight-6 engines. Applications: * 1966-1971 Jeep Jeepster Commando * 1966-1971 CJ-5 * 1966-1971 CJ-6 ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, Stef wrote: # yes if you can find the exact year, let me know. # # Stef # # # # ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" # To: "Stef" # Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 5:03 PM # Subject: Re: emblems # # # > these probably came off of a late '60's Jeepster. Might also have # > been seen on Jeeps that had the Buick 225 V6s in the mid-60's. # > I had a '68 Jeepster with that engine. # > http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/68-Jeepster/ # > # > CJs and Jeepsters mainly... I don't recall any full size Jeep having one. # > # > If you'd like I can find the exact years and models. # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, Stef wrote: # > # > # John, # > # # > #Can you tell me what year and type Jeep are those emblems, i thought # > it's jeep # > # # > # # > # # > #Stef # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:36:49 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: jeep day 011110 On this glorious JeepB. day (0||||0)... :) (get it, Jan 11, 2010 = 01 11 10 or better 011110 :) see sig file below and replace the little o with a zero... ok, so dan is the first one to bring this to my attention... and it only applies to those Jeeps with round headlights... uh... I ain't got none of those right now, unless you could my '75 J10 hydraulic dump trailer... but the part with the round headlights was recycled... :( ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:03:30 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: jeep day 011110 My 76 does but won't for long as they are going on my '82 Honcho with my Rhino grill. I think everything else I have (except the '71 Loadstar) is square lights > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:36:49 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com > Subject: fsj: jeep day 011110 > > On this glorious JeepB. day (0||||0)... :) (get it, Jan 11, 2010 = 01 11 10 > or better 011110 :) > see sig file below and replace the little o with a zero... > > ok, so dan is the first one to bring this to my attention... and it only > applies to > those Jeeps with round headlights... uh... I ain't got none of those right > now, unless > you could my '75 J10 hydraulic dump trailer... but the part with the round > headlights was recycled... :( > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:14:30 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: [db] RE: fsj: popcorn update I would cover the hole on the floor, slap plywood in the box, rattlecan the truck and call it good! > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 07:58:15 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: bennell-at-mts.net > CC: diesel-benz-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net; DZAshby-at-comcast.net > Subject: RE: [db] RE: fsj: popcorn update > > this is a short term item... no plans to build this as my dream truck. > it runs well and will work fine for WVO and BioDiesel hauling... my > '83 J10 stepside is still in work and hopefully will be done soon. > > anything I do with this 2wd toyota should be recoverable... hope to > clean up the body/paint/bumpers cheaply... make it one color without holes... :) > > if it is possible to move that Diesel into a nicer 4x4 short box and > take that gas engine and put it into the 2wd model without a lot of cost > or expense, that would be good... or maybe just drop this Diesel into > a 4x4 short box with a dead gas engine and scrap the rest... it's > just a thought... > > my dream truck is still superdawg, the '83 J10 step side that is getting > an SD33T/TF727/np208 running 3.54 gears with 235s... if my gearing is > too low, I'll go to 31's... it's already got 2" of body lift and about > 2" of spring lift... comes with factory a/c and even has a jeep sunroof... > will be painted the same color as my '99 WJ... using a pair of nice > leather XJ seats, just like in my current '89, but out of a 2dr xj so > I can get behind the seats... power even... nice... it's even sitting > on what was new tires in 2001... > > pass the popcorn please... > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, Randy Bennell wrote: > > # Go ahead - so long as you recognize it for what it is - just another project > # that you will fix and sell as soon as posssible. I don't see you being happy > # with it for long. > # > # Now, if you want a decent pickup for the long haul, go back to looking at > # domestic trucks. Probably a GM is preferable or a Dodge. The full sized > # Blazer that you had a while back with the diesel was a nice truck. If you > # had essentially the same thing in a pickup truck, I think you would be > # happier than you will be with the Toyota. > # > # Randy > # > # -----Original Message----- > # From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net > # [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of john > # Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:58 AM > # To: Michel Balea > # Cc: full size jeep list; diesel-benz list; David Ashby > # Subject: [db] RE: fsj: popcorn update > # > # > # I don't know what the HP is, but it goes faster than my Tug did... has good > # rpm range and top end. > # > # I like the way it felt... it felt very much like the Ranger but with a much, > # much tighter gear box. > # > # I may call the guy with an increased offer... :) the rust is of little > # concern, that it rusted that > # much here is odd... but I'll hit it with rust stopper and patch the holes > # with old license plates > # and bondo... just like I've done with so many old FSJs. :) > # > # and yes, the input from the lists has been absolutely splendid and much > # appreciated. > # > # thanx all! > # > # john > # > # > # ----- > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > # > # On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, Michel Balea wrote: > # > # # > # # > # # Looks good, you are getting good feedback from the list(s). > # # > # # The rust on the toy could be a concern (driver's floor... too much > # jumping on that pedal to make the truck runs faster) but the engine > # accessibility is exceptional. How many ponies under that NA engine? > # # > # # Michel > # # > # # > # # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > # # > To: > # # > Subject: fsj: popcorn update > # > # No virus found in this incoming message. > # Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > # Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.133/2612 - Release Date: 01/10/10 > # 13:35:00 > # _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:24:01 CST From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: jeep day 011110 john said: {- On this glorious JeepB. day (0||||0)... :) (get it, Jan 11, 2010 = 01 11 10 {- or better 011110 :) {- see sig file below and replace the little o with a zero... {- {- ok, so dan is the first one to bring this to my attention... and it only {- applies to {- those Jeeps with round headlights... uh... I ain't got none of those right {- now, unless {- you could my '75 J10 hydraulic dump trailer... but the part with the round {- headlights was recycled... :( My sister pointed it out to me. I didn't notice it, partially because I always type the date yyyy-mm-dd (good for alphabetizing files chronologically), so it's 2010-01-11 to me. I currently have two Jeeps with the round headlights... The '74 Wag and the '88 GWag. ;) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If I want your web site to make noise, I'll lick my finger and rub it on the monitor... -- Chris Weis .sig via e-mail on aafugit-at-aafugit.org, 2001-08-25 - -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:37:44 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: popcorn summary report I'm out of popcorn and desireable affordable temporary Diesel options... reality check... I have two running vehicles, one running but without paperwork that should be ready Wednesday and yet another running vehicle by the end of the week... in other words, no need to panic... :) word from centralia is that superdawg will be done... hopefully sooner than later... superdawg, the '83 J10 stepside with the sd33t/tf727/np208 on 3.54 dana 44s and 235/75 15s is by far the best looking most practical solution. I have examined, experimented and tried a variety of other setups but keep coming back to that FSJ J10 stepside... so... in the meantime I checked out a variety of Diesels... learned from the collectvie that I really do not want a W210 Mercedes Diesel ('96-'03), I don't know if I'm going to test drive it or not... likely not... also learned that I'm not quick enough to score an inexpensive TDI, especially when the guy doesn't return email (I still have the cash ready)... also, that I really don't want a 2wd Diesel that is rusted, or a 2wd Diesel that has a bad transmission... I've found out haw many flakes there really are on craigslist... they don't answer their phone, return emails... will, not until a day or two AFTER you had the time to look or have purchased something else, and they'll put a thumbnail picture on line and wonder why you want to see pictures! and the pictures they take are amazingly horrible... they walk a block away, hold the camera vertical for a horizontal picture so the subject is in the middle of the picture and takes up maybe 10% of the entire surface... of course after they've run their fingers over the lens after eating a bag of potato chips or changing the oil, just to give that special effect... I even looked at what should have been a very nice '84 Blazer, from the description... and for the most part it was... but the guy was a smoker and had painted the truck with a rattle can with his 12 yr old son... ok, it was ONE color and didn't look all that bad, but I'll pass anyway... :) I even found a $500 non-rusted 2wd Toyota gas with extended cab and thought about swapping the Diesel into it... until I did that crazy reality check thing again... :) so, currently running and in use: '91 300D and the '99 WJ paperwork pending on my nice white '89 XJ limited that will end up doing WVO service until superdawg is healed... and the '00 WJ that looks like my '99 WJ but has a 4.0 instead of a 4.7 will be done this week, will get cleaned up nicely, tested thoroughly to make sure it's perfect, and then sell it. so, at this point, I wouldn't stock up on a lot of extra popcorn... I hope... :) john '83 J10 - superdawg... coming home soon... I hope '89 XJ ltd - employed until the dawg returns '91 300D - economy car/daily driver when my wife isn't going anywhere '99 WJ - my daily driver when the wife is going somewhere '00 WJ - for sale '75 J10 hydraulic dump trailer... likely will go away when the dawg is done, we're likely moving into a condo/townhouse in the next few years and won't need a trailer for the garden work any more... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:09:48 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: FYI: Boeing 787 Plant, Charleston, SC (OT) see what labor unions and high taxes in WA are doing for SC: fyi: http://evshd.netfirms.com/bek01/flash.htm ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:17:02 +0000 From: Michel Balea Subject: fsj: retrofitting newer door to old style latch A quick note for those of us still driving older latch style vehicles. I needed to replace the rear doors because of really bad rust.... photos to follow. There are 2 ways, keep the newer latch and use the new catch on the pillar which requires to add the catch for the bolts in the quarter panel (I am doing rear doors) or simply swap the latch which is a matter a drilling a new hole in the door, making the door lock rod hole larger from 0.184 to 0.243. Pound the new hole in to allow the recess of the screw. It was too late to install the door.... and may be I will remove the "Cash 4 clunker" paint on the window.... so the wagoneer is not towed when I am going to my appointments this morning. Michel 74 wag _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3514 **************************