From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Feb 1 07:42:44 2010 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, February 1 2010 Volume 01 : Number 3522 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: Edelbrock Carb on Edelbrock Performer manifold fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list fsj: Weekend wrenchfest - Snohomish Monster Carport fsj: Re: Re: 1980 wagoneer 2 door - $600 (Redmond) Re: fsj: Re: Re: 1980 wagoneer 2 door - $600 (Redmond) RE: fsj: Re: Re: 1980 wagoneer 2 door - $600 (Redmond) FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 11:18:39 -0600 From: Kim Tesar Subject: Re: fsj: Edelbrock Carb on Edelbrock Performer manifold Not I said the pig, but am working on it. Motor mounts/engine bolts snugged. The last fun one is the lower left transmission to bellhousing bolt, it is 9/16 dia. and maybe 1" maybe 1.5" long. 2" is definitely too long. AFAICT, it requires a nut inside the bellhousing, but if too long, will interfere with the clutch fork. The bolt was missing when I got it, so this is new territory. Then the joy of reconstructing the clutch linkage will begin. There's a couple of bad spots of rust in the floor, but it's not a total loss as I was thinking before. License plates needed :) - - Landon 79 J10 //////// On Jan 30, 2010, at 11:57 PM, wallacem7-at-aol.com wrote: > I don't have an Edelbrock carb on my performer manifold, but I > have it's > older cousin the Carter AFB. I am running straight manifold vacuum > to my > distributor. Checking in the factory service manual with the > Motorcraft carb > you'd run ported vacuum when the coolant was below 220 degrees and > manifold > vacuum when it was above 220 degrees...with the idea that you'd get > a faster > idle and better cooling with manifold vacuum. > > A bog in a Carter AFB or edelbrock carburetor is fairly easy to > diagnose and > often has something to do with the jets and the rods in the > carburetor not > being set up for the application. Edelbrock rods and jets fit a > Carter and > vice versa. I forget the exact details...if you want I can look > them up for > you, but I got a Carter Carburetor book at the bookstore that > explained what > was going on with the carburetor based on vacuum readings...I ran a > vacuum > hose in through the window and did part throttle and full throttle > runs in the > mostly abandoned industrial park near where I used to live. > > This is what I remember...the metering rods are held up in the jets > with > springs and the rods are pulled down my engine vacuum, when engine > vacuum > drops due to a full throttle situation the springs push rods up > where the > narrow section of the rod allows more fuel to pass through. If the > engine bogs > at a part throttle situation it can be too soft a spring allowing > the rod to > open too easily or it can be the rod's step is too big. I forget > how that > read. > > The Carter/Edelbrock rod system is more durable than a Holley power > valve in > the event of a backfire. I think they are easier to tune and more > street > friendly than a Holley as well. > > Mine was very tractable when I lived at sea level, no bogging in > the primary > circuit and you could feel the secondaries come open (which didn't > happen that > often) I haven't yet re-set the carb for 7000 feet where I live > now. Out of > the box the carb bogged, the secondaries didn't open, nothing > really felt > right. I spent a couple of afternoons after work playing with it > and got it > working well. I bought a kit of springs and jets and rods from > Summit racing. > > How many people on the list still use a full size Jeep as primary > transportation (or as your only car)? > > Mark Wallace > 81 Wag ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:15:02 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:21:46 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Weekend wrenchfest - Snohomish Monster Carport after the WVO run on Saturday I started wrenching... 1) 2000 WJ - cleaned up interior and rephotographed... http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/1574228541.html 2) 1989 XJ - fixed dome light, front speakers, cleaned up, rephotographed... http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/1580091367.html 3) 1999 WJ - cleaned up interior, replaced dash lights... next, heater core... 4) 1991 300D - replaced valve pressure seals in the injection pump, replaced #1 glow plug (picked up three more from the dealer, but they're a different part number... so the back three are still original). Fiddled with the rear dome light wiring a little, didn't fix... Started it up and drove out very nicely... glow plug light came on shortly after starting out... but glowed properly... guess I have to do the back three. I'm also running a little experiment on the old seals... soaking them in BioDiesel to see what they do... I hadn't realized that the last time I did this process was in 2003! that was SEVEN years ago!!!! Wow. http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/TECH/124-series/Pressure-Valve-Seal-Replacement-2010/ALL.html 5) 1981 VW Rabbit Diesel - oil change (amsoil 5w30), new horn, rear speakers next... paint? windshield? shift linkage? bedliner??? http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/1981-VW-Diesel-Pickup/2010-Jan-30-wabbitWVOwun/P1110412.jpg it's 11:15pm already... wow... had mark help me vacuum out the jeeps, have been outside wrenching all day long... :) perfect weather... overcast and in the 40's. good day of wrenching... only thing left to do, low priority as well, the last three glow plugs, have the WJ heater core replaced, and of course the vw improvement... sure wish my J10 would get done... then I won't need to fix the VW any further. ;) I want to thank whoever had Murphy over at their place this weekend... appreciate it. Other than dropping my 3/8-1/4 socket adapter in the benz belly pan nothing went wrong!!! :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:36:28 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: fsj: Re: Re: 1980 wagoneer 2 door - $600 (Redmond) that *is* too bad. and why do these always have to be on the WEST coast?!?!? :- / Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "full size jeep list" ; "Jim Blair" Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 11:57 PM Subject: fsj: Re: 1980 wagoneer 2 door - $600 (Redmond) > what a crying shame... :( > > why do people let rigs sit to decay like this? > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010, carnuck-at-hotmail.com wrote: > > # > # > # > # carnuck-at-hotmail.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. > # > # Please see below for more information. > # > # Visit the posting at > http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/1579741629.html to contact the > person who posted this. > # > # ============================================================ > # 1980 wagoneer 2 door > # > # Date: 2010-01-31, 2:23PM > # > # > # 1980 rare 2 door wagoneer, 360 amc, dana 44, amc 20 rear end, full > time 4wd quadratrack, > # > # > # > # straight body needs some work to get running radiator is missing and > needs new > # > # harmonic at the least to get running. the motor was running when it was > parked in 99. > # > # > # > # Great starter platform call if you want to know more. 425-691-9283 Call > Justin > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # Location: Redmond > # it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial > interests > # > # > # > # > # Original URL: http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/1579741629.html > # > # ============================================================ > # > # this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our > # email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: > # > # http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/o9ma3BkbvdWYlVmbuMnct92YG > # > # > # ============================================================ > # > # > # > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 07:38:47 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Re: 1980 wagoneer 2 door - $600 (Redmond) for the right fee, I'll acquire and store for 30 days... ;) shipping is available by truck from tacoma, about 60 miles south of here... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Neal Hoover wrote: # that *is* too bad. # and why do these always have to be on the WEST coast?!?!? # :- / # # Neal A. Hoover # Project '76 J-10 # Project '96 XJ # http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj # # ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" # To: "full size jeep list" ; "Jim Blair" # Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 11:57 PM # Subject: fsj: Re: 1980 wagoneer 2 door - $600 (Redmond) # # # > what a crying shame... :( # > # > why do people let rigs sit to decay like this? # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010, carnuck-at-hotmail.com wrote: # > # > # # > # # > # # > # carnuck-at-hotmail.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. # > # # > # Please see below for more information. # > # # > # Visit the posting at # > http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/1579741629.html to contact the person # > who posted this. # > # # > # ============================================================ # > # 1980 wagoneer 2 door # > # # > # Date: 2010-01-31, 2:23PM # > # # > # # > # 1980 rare 2 door wagoneer, 360 amc, dana 44, amc 20 rear end, full # > time 4wd quadratrack, # > # # > # # > # # > # straight body needs some work to get running radiator is missing and # > needs new # > # # > # harmonic at the least to get running. the motor was running when it was # > parked in 99. # > # # > # # > # # > # Great starter platform call if you want to know more. 425-691-9283 Call # > Justin # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # Location: Redmond # > # it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial # > interests # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # Original URL: http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/1579741629.html # > # # > # ============================================================ # > # # > # this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our # > # email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: # > # # > # http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/o9ma3BkbvdWYlVmbuMnct92YG # > # # > # # > # ============================================================ # > # # > # # > # # > # # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 07:43:28 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Re: Re: 1980 wagoneer 2 door - $600 (Redmond) Looking closer at the photo (saw it on my phone before), it's actually a 2 dr Cherokee and not a Wagoneer. Wags had the wrap around tail lights till the end in '83. Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 - ---------------------------------------- > Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 07:38:47 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: proj96xj-at-insightbb.com > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: fsj: Re: Re: 1980 wagoneer 2 door - $600 (Redmond) > > for the right fee, I'll acquire and store for 30 days... ;) > > shipping is available by truck from tacoma, about 60 miles south of here... > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Neal Hoover wrote: > > # that *is* too bad. > # and why do these always have to be on the WEST coast?!?!? > # :- / > # > # Neal A. Hoover > # Project '76 J-10 > # Project '96 XJ > # http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj > # > # ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" > # To: "full size jeep list" ; "Jim Blair" > # Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 11:57 PM > # Subject: fsj: Re: 1980 wagoneer 2 door - $600 (Redmond) > # > # > #> what a crying shame... :( > #> > #> why do people let rigs sit to decay like this? > #> > #> > #> > #> ----- > #> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > #> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > #> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > #> http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > #> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > #> > #> > #> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010, carnuck-at-hotmail.com wrote: > #> > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # carnuck-at-hotmail.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. > #> # > #> # Please see below for more information. > #> # > #> # Visit the posting at > #> http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/1579741629.html to contact the person > #> who posted this. > #> # > #> # ============================================================ > #> # 1980 wagoneer 2 door > #> # > #> # Date: 2010-01-31, 2:23PM > #> # > #> # > #> # 1980 rare 2 door wagoneer, 360 amc, dana 44, amc 20 rear end, full > #> time 4wd quadratrack, > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # straight body needs some work to get running radiator is missing and > #> needs new > #> # > #> # harmonic at the least to get running. the motor was running when it was > #> parked in 99. > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # Great starter platform call if you want to know more. 425-691-9283 Call > #> Justin > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # Location: Redmond > #> # it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial > #> interests > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # Original URL: http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/1579741629.html > #> # > #> # ============================================================ > #> # > #> # this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our > #> # email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: > #> # > #> # http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/o9ma3BkbvdWYlVmbuMnct92YG > #> # > #> # > #> # ============================================================ > #> # > #> # > #> # > #> # > # > # _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. 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