From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Feb 25 17:13:41 2010 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Friday, February 26 2010 Volume 01 : Number 3539 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: tell me you aren't tempted.. Re: fsj: CL JEEP TRUCK M715 xtra cab RE: fsj: CL JEEP TRUCK M715 xtra cab RE: fsj: CL JEEP TRUCK M715 xtra cab RE: fsj: Re: tell me you aren't tempted.. RE: fsj: Re: tell me you aren't tempted.. Re: [db] RE: fsj: Re: tell me you aren't tempted.. Re: xj: Re: [db] RE: fsj: Re: tell me you aren't tempted.. fsj: Re: it's official, I kinda hurt the chevy RE: xj: Re: [db] RE: fsj: Re: tell me you aren't tempted.. 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I've done a number of conversions and swaps and they don't always come out as nice as one would like... as I get older I get better at them, but still... they're never as perfect as I would like... I have high hopes for Superdawg because I'm using a proven drivetrain in an FSJ chassis... won't be fast, but will be reasonably economical and amazingly simple and reliable... thanx Stephen and Dianne for the temptations... I'm learning that I can enjoy these temptations as eye-candy... one can enjoy the beauty of the engineering without operating (or repairing) it. :) love the look of the old Jags, but after driving one extremely beautiful one, I'm content to look at the pictures and marvel at it's beautiful lines every time I see it... a masterpiece... http://fotomeister.us/MISC-cars/Chucks-Jag-1july06/ALL.html (yes that's me grinning... :) http://fotomeister.us/MISC-cars/ChucksJag/ ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Stephen Rigley wrote: http://bringatrailer.com/2010/02/21/bat-exclusive-1966-jaguar-e-type-project/ # # ;-) # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:09:58 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: CL JEEP TRUCK M715 xtra cab if it were only closer, and not a rag top. :) http://wagoneers.com/tmp/OldBlue-or-SuperDawg.html I'm thinking of taking a run down to a VW parts house in Seattle at lunch and looking at Old Blue II... pictures to follow if I do. ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Diana Eichert wrote: # Here you go John, "JEEP TRUCK M715 xtra cab" # # http://parkersburg.craigslist.org/cto/1615974804.html # # though they are a bit high for a non-running, non-stock # M715 # # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:29:42 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: CL JEEP TRUCK M715 xtra cab I would cannibalize the roof and rear wall from my '76 J10 shortbox to make a "removable hardtop" if I owned an M715! > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:09:58 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: deichert-at-wrench.com > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: fsj: CL JEEP TRUCK M715 xtra cab > > if it were only closer, and not a rag top. :) > > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/OldBlue-or-SuperDawg.html > > I'm thinking of taking a run down to a VW parts house in Seattle at lunch > and looking at Old Blue II... pictures to follow if I do. ;) > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Diana Eichert wrote: > > # Here you go John, "JEEP TRUCK M715 xtra cab" > # > # http://parkersburg.craigslist.org/cto/1615974804.html > # > # though they are a bit high for a non-running, non-stock > # M715 > # > # _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:34:54 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: CL JEEP TRUCK M715 xtra cab why not part of a GW top? that thing will be quite noisy... no matter what you do. decided not to run down to seattle... I am very curious how old blue II is looking, but I am afraid to look right now as I may buy it without really thinking it through completely... I hope curtis gets superdawg together quick... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Jim Blair wrote: # I would cannibalize the roof and rear wall from my '76 J10 shortbox to make a # "removable hardtop" if I owned an M715! # # > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:09:58 -0800 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: deichert-at-wrench.com # > CC: fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: Re: fsj: CL JEEP TRUCK M715 xtra cab # > # > if it were only closer, and not a rag top. :) # > # > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/OldBlue-or-SuperDawg.html # > # > I'm thinking of taking a run down to a VW parts house in Seattle at lunch # > and looking at Old Blue II... pictures to follow if I do. ;) # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Diana Eichert wrote: # > # > # Here you go John, "JEEP TRUCK M715 xtra cab" # > # # > # http://parkersburg.craigslist.org/cto/1615974804.html # > # # > # though they are a bit high for a non-running, non-stock # > # M715 # > # # > # # # _________________________________________________________________ # Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. # http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:36:51 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Re: tell me you aren't tempted.. I would get an older Jag (maybe a V12 with blown motor) with th400 trans and replace the OEM drivetrain with either a 304 or maybe Nash 327 (since I have the trans adaptors for both) and GM tbi. My wife would love a sick kitty! > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:49:09 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: srigley-at-gmail.com > CC: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; ABCvoice-at-worldnet.att.net; FParker24-at-verizon.net; DZAshby-at-comcast.net > Subject: fsj: Re: tell me you aren't tempted.. > > yes, tempted multiple times: > > so many options, so many miles... so little money, so little time, so little space... > > a very nice FC150 - have seen them for less up here... but this is nice: > http://bringatrailer.com/2010/02/24/bat-exclusive-1958-willys-jeep-fc150-proj ect > > now this is a cool car, way out of my price range though: > http://bringatrailer.com/2010/02/21/bat-exclusive-1966-jaguar-e-type-project/ > > and of course this on the FSJ list this morning... > $3k ain't bad if it were closer... and not a rag top. > http://parkersburg.craigslist.org/cto/1615974804.html > > and of course, the option to re-aquire Old Blue II: > (the nicest exterior and body of any FSJ I've ever owned) > > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/OldBlue-or-SuperDawg.html (may run down to Seattle at > lunch for some VW parts and take current pictures... :) > > the prevailing counsel from my trusted friends is to stay the course with SuperDawg... and > everything points to the same end... superdawg is the coolest FSJ I've ever owned... is > practical and everything is there... just needs to be reassembled... should get 20 mpg in town... > > but all these great deals with xj's and wj's and Diesel Mercedes... and odd-ball projects. :) > > If one could only make a living fixing up and restoring all these projects... but every time I > get into one of these I'm doing remarkably well if I can just break even with them... and a lot > of the time I'm really going backwards... I've done a number of conversions and swaps and they > don't always come out as nice as one would like... as I get older I get better at them, but > still... they're never as perfect as I would like... I have high hopes for Superdawg because > I'm using a proven drivetrain in an FSJ chassis... won't be fast, but will be reasonably > economical and amazingly simple and reliable... > > thanx Stephen and Dianne for the temptations... I'm learning that I can enjoy these temptations > as eye-candy... one can enjoy the beauty of the engineering without operating (or repairing) it. :) > love the look of the old Jags, but after driving one extremely beautiful one, I'm content to look > at the pictures and marvel at it's beautiful lines every time I see it... a masterpiece... > http://fotomeister.us/MISC-cars/Chucks-Jag-1july06/ALL.html (yes that's me grinning... :) > http://fotomeister.us/MISC-cars/ChucksJag/ > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Stephen Rigley wrote: > > http://bringatrailer.com/2010/02/21/bat-exclusive-1966-jaguar-e-type-project/ > # > # ;-) > # _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:39:29 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: Re: tell me you aren't tempted.. I wonder what people would think if we put a nice Diesel in one... hey, they sell jag's in europe with Diesels... they took one around the Nurnbergring in under 10 minutes on Top Gear. ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Jim Blair wrote: # I would get an older Jag (maybe a V12 with blown motor) with th400 trans and # replace the OEM drivetrain with either a 304 or maybe Nash 327 (since I have # the trans adaptors for both) and GM tbi. My wife would love a sick kitty! # # > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:49:09 -0800 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: srigley-at-gmail.com # > CC: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; # ABCvoice-at-worldnet.att.net; FParker24-at-verizon.net; DZAshby-at-comcast.net # > Subject: fsj: Re: tell me you aren't tempted.. # > # > yes, tempted multiple times: # > # > so many options, so many miles... so little money, so little time, so little # space... # > # > a very nice FC150 - have seen them for less up here... but this is nice: # > # http://bringatrailer.com/2010/02/24/bat-exclusive-1958-willys-jeep-fc150-proj # ect # > # > now this is a cool car, way out of my price range though: # > # http://bringatrailer.com/2010/02/21/bat-exclusive-1966-jaguar-e-type-project/ # > # > and of course this on the FSJ list this morning... # > $3k ain't bad if it were closer... and not a rag top. # > http://parkersburg.craigslist.org/cto/1615974804.html # > # > and of course, the option to re-aquire Old Blue II: # > (the nicest exterior and body of any FSJ I've ever owned) # > # > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/OldBlue-or-SuperDawg.html (may run down to Seattle # at # > lunch for some VW parts and take current pictures... :) # > # > the prevailing counsel from my trusted friends is to stay the course with # SuperDawg... and # > everything points to the same end... superdawg is the coolest FSJ I've ever # owned... is # > practical and everything is there... just needs to be reassembled... should # get 20 mpg in town... # > # > but all these great deals with xj's and wj's and Diesel Mercedes... and # odd-ball projects. :) # > # > If one could only make a living fixing up and restoring all these # projects... but every time I # > get into one of these I'm doing remarkably well if I can just break even # with them... and a lot # > of the time I'm really going backwards... I've done a number of conversions # and swaps and they # > don't always come out as nice as one would like... as I get older I get # better at them, but # > still... they're never as perfect as I would like... I have high hopes for # Superdawg because # > I'm using a proven drivetrain in an FSJ chassis... won't be fast, but will # be reasonably # > economical and amazingly simple and reliable... # > # > thanx Stephen and Dianne for the temptations... I'm learning that I can # enjoy these temptations # > as eye-candy... one can enjoy the beauty of the engineering without # operating (or repairing) it. :) # > love the look of the old Jags, but after driving one extremely beautiful # one, I'm content to look # > at the pictures and marvel at it's beautiful lines every time I see it... a # masterpiece... # > http://fotomeister.us/MISC-cars/Chucks-Jag-1july06/ALL.html (yes that's me # grinning... :) # > http://fotomeister.us/MISC-cars/ChucksJag/ # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Stephen Rigley wrote: # > # > # http://bringatrailer.com/2010/02/21/bat-exclusive-1966-jaguar-e-type-project/ # > # # > # ;-) # > # # # _________________________________________________________________ # Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. # http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:51:28 -0800 From: Kevin Subject: Re: [db] RE: fsj: Re: tell me you aren't tempted.. 6.2 diesel bolts up to a TH400... On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 01:39:29PM -0800, john wrote: > I wonder what people would think if we put a nice Diesel in one... > > hey, they sell jag's in europe with Diesels... they took one around > the Nurnbergring in under 10 minutes on Top Gear. ;) > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Jim Blair wrote: > > # I would get an older Jag (maybe a V12 with blown motor) with th400 trans and > # replace the OEM drivetrain with either a 304 or maybe Nash 327 (since I have > # the trans adaptors for both) and GM tbi. My wife would love a sick kitty! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:19:12 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] RE: fsj: Re: tell me you aren't tempted.. yeah, but why would you... a 700R4 has Overdrive... and can be built to work. ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Kevin wrote: # 6.2 diesel bolts up to a TH400... # # On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 01:39:29PM -0800, john wrote: # > I wonder what people would think if we put a nice Diesel in one... # > # > hey, they sell jag's in europe with Diesels... they took one around # > the Nurnbergring in under 10 minutes on Top Gear. ;) # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Jim Blair wrote: # > # > # I would get an older Jag (maybe a V12 with blown motor) with th400 trans and # > # replace the OEM drivetrain with either a 304 or maybe Nash 327 (since I have # > # the trans adaptors for both) and GM tbi. My wife would love a sick kitty! # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:35:51 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: it's official, I kinda hurt the chevy these are a pain to replace... getting the follower on the cam lobe correctly is miserable. that's the hard part... it's not too hard to get too... you can see it ok... even when stuffed in a GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/Omega/Omega-motor-mounts-lights_28May2008/P1180363.jpg http://wagoneers.com/tmp/chevy-lift-pump1.jpg http://wagoneers.com/tmp/chevy-lift-pump2.jpg Omega spit up one of these things, and the BioDiesel ate the rubber line going in, see: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/Omega/Omega-motor-mounts-lights_28May2008/P1180368.jpg remember my trip to Portland fighting the Diesel wanting to die at idle? If I ever have another 6.2 a plate is going across that opening and an electric fuel pump will go in it's place... not even sure I'll retain all the plumbing that far down either... the lines come from the tank to the firewall, primary filter, then down along the engine to the lift pump, then up to the secondary filter and into the IP... this lift pump thing is a holdover from the mechanical pumps used on gas engines... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Kevin wrote: # Took the 6.2 diesel powered chevy to Reno last weekend to drop off # landcruiser parts, and became convinced that there was something wrong # with it. # # Sign number 1: I burned 9 gallons of diesel from Auburn to Truckee, a # distance of 81 miles. I didn't think too much of it at the time, since # I was going up hill and had my foot into it fairly hard. # # Sign number 2: After dinner, the truck fought me a little to get # started. Didn't think too much of this either, since it was snowing out # (and therefore cold), and I had flatlander california fuel on board, so # I didn't think a whole lot about it. Got fuel in Boomtown, headed home. # # Sign number 3: truck developed a bit of a squeak between about 1800 and # about 2400, but really only seemed to do it when hard on the throttle # in second gear, or revving it to that range in neutral while the truck # was moving. # # Decided after number 3 that it was going to get parked until I figured # out what was wrong with it. # # So today was redneck vehicle troubleshooting day. # 1. Crack beer. # 2. Lift hood. # 3. look for broken pieces. # 4. attempt to start truck. note that sign number 2 hasn't gone away with # warmer weather and being 2500 feet or so lower elevation. # 5. start truck again with foot on throttle, this time to a successful, # noisy, smoke filled outcome. # 6. look under hood for broken pieces before hunting down stethoscope. # 7. exclaim "HOLY CRAP", turn off truck, get camera. # # I've wiped out lift pumps on diesels before (the fuel pump that pumps # fuel to the injector pump), but don't think I've ever split one in half # before. Good thing the part isn't expensive, but I don't think this is # going to be fun to get to. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:12:11 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: xj: Re: [db] RE: fsj: Re: tell me you aren't tempted.. The Jag already has a TH400 and requires no further trans mods to put the AMC motor in (I'd even be tempted to put in a 4.0L in an ex-6 cyl Jag) other than the mounts and some hoses/brackets for AC, PS, etc. It requires more adapters and a controller for the trans to run the 4L60E trans with the diesel motor (I wouldn't even bother with a 4L60 as the case is too weak) Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 - ---------------------------------------- > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:19:12 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: xj-at-digest.net > CC: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; srigley-at-gmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; abcvoice-at-worldnet.att.net; fparker24-at-verizon.net; dzashby-at-comcast.net > Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] RE: fsj: Re: tell me you aren't tempted.. > > yeah, but why would you... a 700R4 has Overdrive... and can be built to work. > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Kevin wrote: > > # 6.2 diesel bolts up to a TH400... > # > # On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 01:39:29PM -0800, john wrote: > #> I wonder what people would think if we put a nice Diesel in one... > #> > #> hey, they sell jag's in europe with Diesels... they took one around > #> the Nurnbergring in under 10 minutes on Top Gear. ;) > #> > #> ----- > #> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > #> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > #> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > #> http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > #> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > #> > #> > #> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Jim Blair wrote: > #> > #> # I would get an older Jag (maybe a V12 with blown motor) with th400 trans and > #> # replace the OEM drivetrain with either a 304 or maybe Nash 327 (since I have > #> # the trans adaptors for both) and GM tbi. My wife would love a sick kitty! > # _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3539 **************************