From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Mar 11 14:17:47 2010 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Thursday, March 11 2010 Volume 01 : Number 3546 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 RE: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 RE: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 Re: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:04:28 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 I would graft on the vacuum pump from a Ford IH 7.3L diesel before spending a lot on an OEM one. Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:36:48 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: xj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 This would be something you'd find at a Renault dealership. It might be possible to find a substitute made by Bosch or by Paris-Rhone. You should be able to find this in France, or with a Renault dealership. The 2.1L Turbo Diesel was used many years in Europe. I would be contacting you if I needed this part as it would be very, very difficult to find in the the states. This part could be rebuilt by replacing the bushings, diaprahm and seals. _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:26:30 +0000 From: Michel Balea Subject: RE: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 Makes sense to use something current, the Euro car makers do not stock parts for vehicles over 10 years of age. Between the MOT and the weather, nobody could keep their wheels over 7 years, it was not cost effective, albeit I saw a mid 70's simca 1500 the other day. Most french cars did not last 5 years in the 70's because the rust was eating the unibody. Michel > From: carnuck-at-hotmail.com > To: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 > Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:04:28 -0800 > > I would graft on the vacuum pump from a Ford IH 7.3L diesel before spending a > lot on an OEM one. > > > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:36:48 -0800 (PST) > From: john > Subject: xj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE > 2.1 TD 1987 > > This would be something you'd find at a Renault dealership. > > It might be possible to find a substitute made by Bosch or by Paris-Rhone. > > You should be able to find this in France, or with a Renault dealership. > > The 2.1L Turbo Diesel was used many years in Europe. > > I would be contacting you if I needed this part as it would be very, > very difficult to find in the the states. > > This part could be rebuilt by replacing the bushings, diaprahm and seals. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:52:01 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 most american dealerships rarely stock parts for cars over 5 years... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Michel Balea wrote: # Makes sense to use something current, the Euro car makers do not stock parts # for vehicles over 10 years of age. Between the MOT and the weather, nobody # could keep their wheels over 7 years, it was not cost effective, albeit I saw # a mid 70's simca 1500 the other day. Most french cars did not last 5 years in # the 70's because the rust was eating the unibody. # Michel # # > From: carnuck-at-hotmail.com # > To: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net # > Subject: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE # 2.1 TD 1987 # > Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:04:28 -0800 # > # > I would graft on the vacuum pump from a Ford IH 7.3L diesel before spending # a # > lot on an OEM one. # > # > # > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:36:48 -0800 (PST) # > From: john # > Subject: xj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE # > 2.1 TD 1987 # > # > This would be something you'd find at a Renault dealership. # > # > It might be possible to find a substitute made by Bosch or by Paris-Rhone. # > # > You should be able to find this in France, or with a Renault dealership. # > # > The 2.1L Turbo Diesel was used many years in Europe. # > # > I would be contacting you if I needed this part as it would be very, # > very difficult to find in the the states. # > # > This part could be rebuilt by replacing the bushings, diaprahm and seals. # > # > _________________________________________________________________ # > Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. # > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ # # _________________________________________________________________ # Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. # http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:17:04 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 excellent. jeep on. :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Milena wrote: # Hy, # my Jeep is working very good now, # the tecnician has repaire today the vacumpump with this kit # 4.05190.52.0 (kit per repaire valvole) # 4.05269.50.0 (kit per repaire membrane) # he sed that was a problem with the valves # thanks for all # Milena # ----- Original Message ----- # From: Michel Balea # To: john wagoneer ; amilena-at-email.it # Cc: carnuck-at-hotmail.com ; fsj digest # Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:30 PM # Subject: RE: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 # # # The drawing are pictures taken from the dealership computer screen, I leaned over after asking the tech if I could take a snapshot. # # # The temp is barely above freezing during the day and below in the morning.... Global warming at full swing... it snowed in Avignon.... # Cheers # # # Michel # # > Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:41:25 -0800 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: amilena-at-email.it # > CC: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net # > Subject: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 # > # > fyi # > ----- # > # > On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Milena wrote: # > # > ----- Original Message ----- # > From: Milena # > To: Michel Balea # > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:09 PM # > Subject: Re: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 # > # > # > It's for sure Pierburg made You can seee on the particular of vacuumpump in attach the label on it. # > I already received the membrane and the tecnician hopely will let me know tomorrow if they work on it # > I let you know # > hope soon # > thanks a lot # > P.S where ave you faud the drows? # > The VIN of my jeep is 1JCBL7845HT136259 # > # > ----- Original Message ----- # > From: Michel Balea # > To: amilena-at-email.it ; john wagoneer # > Cc: carnuck-at-hotmail.com # > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:29 PM # > Subject: RE: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 # > # > # > Checked with the VIN number and we get a different manufacturer name: BARMAG or APG. # > # > I took a pict of their screen, but as the man said: not available at the renault dealership. # > # > Good luck # > # > Michel # > # > # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > From: amilena-at-email.it # > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; john-at-wagoneers.com # > CC: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: Re: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 # > Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:49:13 +0100 # > # > # > My Vin is Below # > Jeep cherokee 2.1 Td 1988 # > telaio: 1JCBL7845HT136259 # > (IDENTIFICATIVO AUTO 06.89-03.92) # > # > ----- Original Message ----- # > From: Michel Balea # > To: john wagoneer # > Cc: amilena-at-email.it ; carnuck-at-hotmail.com ; fsj digest # > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:37 AM # > Subject: RE: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 # > # > # > Correct, it makes sense, as they did not list the piershxxx, but some other names that I have already forgotten. # > # > Cheers # > # > Michel # > # > > Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:42:43 -0800 # > > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com # > > CC: amilena-at-email.it; carnuck-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net # > > Subject: RE: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 # > > # > > actually they need the VIN because these things were assembled # > > with different parts... variations in the injection pump, # > > alternators and vacuum pumps... various vendors included bosch # > > and paris rhone and whoever made that pump... # > > # > > that's why they needed the vin in this case... I could maybe # > > find the vin for my '85 cherokee TD... ;) # > > # > > john # > > # > > # > > # > > ----- # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > > # > > # > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Michel Balea wrote: # > > # > > # > > Walk-by a renault dealership on thursday and inquired about the part(s), # > > they want to see the registration.... I guess this is a way to make it # > > difficult for repeat offender to fix stolen cars? They do not sell the # > > individual components, the whole pump is EUR374.00 euros. Your best bet is # > > on-line # > > # > > Michel # > > # > > # > > Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:40:47 +0100 # > > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; carnuck-at-hotmail.com; john-at-wagoneers.com # > > From: amilena-at-email.it # > > CC: fsj-at-digest.net # > > Subject: RE: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP # > > CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 # > > # > > Hello, # > > thanks for help # > > the correct Pierbusg code of the vacuum pump is below: # > > PIERBURG : 7.20566.01.0 # > > PIERBURG kit repaire : # > > 4.05190.52.0 (kit per repaire valvole) # > > 4.05269.50.0 (kit per repaire membrane) # > > I will tell to my tecnician tomorrow hopely he will be able to repaire the # > > pump. # > > I will let You know # > > thanks a lot # > > Daniele # > > # > > --------- Original Message -------- # > > Da: "Michel Balea" # > > To: "carnuck-at-hotmail.com" , "john wagoneer" # > > # > > Cc: "fsj digest" # > > Oggetto: RE: fsj: Re: info spare parts brake vacuum pump Pierburg JEEP # > > CHEROKEE 2.1 TD 1987 # > > Data: 01/03/10 18:01 # > > # > > Jim is always on top of everything. # > > # > > Check this site, the link opens very slowly for the diaphragm # > > # > > # > > http://www.oscaro.com/liste.asp?ID_GENERIC_ARTICLES=1008&ID_OSC_TYPES=22812&I # > > D_OSC_LEVELS=1818 # > > # > > EUR76.54 # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > Diaphragme, pompe ` vide PIERBURG : 4.05269.50.0 # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > or the valve EUR46.30 # # # ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3546 **************************