From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sun Mar 14 12:30:48 2010 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Sunday, March 14 2010 Volume 01 : Number 3548 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: dealer parts and QT fsj: intro of new list member from down under fsj: the Quadratrac BW1339 discussion RE: fsj: the Quadratrac BW1339 discussion fsj: 79 J10 Alternator wiring FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:49:04 -0500 From: "Neal Hoover" Subject: Re: fsj: dealer parts and QT QTs are pretty easy to rebuild. not much to 'em. yes, chains definitely do stretch and need serviced. i think that some (BJ's, Bulltear) sell HD chains. that said, it is important to at least have an exploded view diagram of the internals, as the order that things go together is very important and can get put together inthe wrong sequence. Neal A. Hoover Project '76 J-10 Project '96 XJ http://community.webshots.com/user/proj96xj - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Balea" To: "john wagoneer" ; Cc: "fsj digest" Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 5:57 AM Subject: RE: fsj: dealer parts and QT > Back to QT, the clunking beside the stretch chain, can be due to the wear > and > tear of the TH400 tail shaft : 13 or 10 splines, especially in reverse.` > > As for oil, crown automotive sells the oil, BJsoffroad and bulltear have > it as > well. > > On the IFSJA, one member swapped a NP241 to replace the QT, changing the > TH400 > tailshaft, when I have time, I will try to find the link, it was in the > best > mod that you have done "post". > > Michel > > >> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:25:38 -0800 >> From: john-at-wagoneers.com >> To: timesawastin-at-bigpond.com >> CC: fsj-at-digest.net >> Subject: Re: Fwd: fsj: dealer parts and French cars >> >> no one answered that I could tell... >> >> :) >> ----- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum >> http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Terry Halmshaw wrote: >> >> # Did anybody address the question below?. >> # >> # Anybody ever re-built a Borg Warner QT? I've done a few chain drive >> New >> # # Processes to the point where I wouldn't flinch if I had to rebuild > another >> # # one. This BW case had the same clunking that my NP 241 in my Dodge > had >> # # when >> # # the chain streched. Is there a center diff in the BW QT? Do the >> # chains strech >> # # when you run them out of oil or is there another reason? What's >> # common wisdom >> # # on BW QT oil these days? >> # # >> # # Mark Wallace >> # # 81 Wag >> # >> # >> # >> # At 07:39 PM 3/11/2010, you wrote: >> # >terry down in Australia has, and he'd be extremely interested >> # >in a source on cones for the BW1339 as well, wouldn't ya terry? >> # > >> # >john >> # > >> # > >> # > >> # > ----- >> # >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they >> mold >> # >http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum >> # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com >> http://fotomeister.us >> # >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> # > >> # > >> # >On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, wallacem7-at-aol.com wrote: >> # > >> # > # -----Original Message----- >> # > # From: wallacem7-at-aol.com >> # > # Sent: Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:28 pm >> # > # Subject: Re: fsj: dealer parts and French cars >> # > # >> # > # >> # > # >> # > # Anybody ever re-built a Borg Warner QT? I've done a few chain >> drive > New >> # > # Processes to the point where I wouldn't flinch if I had to rebuild >> # > # another >> # > # one. This BW case had the same clunking that my NP 241 in my >> # > Dodge had when >> # > # the chain streched. Is there a center diff in the BW QT? Do the >> # > chains strech >> # > # when you run them out of oil or is there another reason? What's >> # > common wisdom >> # > # on BW QT oil these days? >> # > # >> # > # Mark Wallace >> # > # 81 Wag >> # > # >> # > # >> # > # >> # > # >> # > # >> # > # >> # > # >> # > # -----Original Message----- >> # > # From: Jim Blair >> # > # To: wallacem7-at-aol.com; local Jeep list >> # > # Sent: Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:19 pm >> # > # Subject: RE: fsj: dealer parts and French cars >> # > # >> # > # >> # > # http://BJoffroad.com has the kit to rebuild them (except new >> cones, > but >> # > # someone was trying to re-pro them?) I have one sitting in my >> # > carport that's >> # > # going with BMax's Nash 327 and my '73 J4000's TH400/QT (with >> # > PT/OD kit swapped >> # > # in) >> # > # I'm getting ready to clear out all the 4 cyl XJ/MJ parts I have >> # > # kicking >> # > # around too except one set to put behind the crate 2.8 V6 with >> # > TBI I'm going to >> # > # put in the '86 MJ I picked up from my neighbor (his 2.8 is blown > apart) >> # > # >> # > # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 >> # > # >> # >> # > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your > inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL > :en-US:WM_HMP:032010_1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:32:08 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: intro of new list member from down under want to extend a warm welcome to Terry... some of you may know him already... big FSJ fan down in Australia. Here's some of his pictures, probably very old... but a starting point. :) http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/TERRY_HALMSHAW/ welcome Terry. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:30:03 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: the Quadratrac BW1339 discussion hey all, terry wants a refresh on the Quadratrac topic... was it mark, michel or ??? who started this discussion? :) please restate the question clearly, and you don't have to send it upside, through the magic of the internet he'll be able to view it right side up... ;) (lame attempt at humor... ;) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Terry Halmshaw Thank you for the introduction my friend, could you please send me the original question (below) from the sender?, I have no idea who sent it, but he is being filled with misguided information. Cheers mate. At 12:25 AM 3/12/2010, you wrote: >no one answered that I could tell... > > :) > ----- >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Terry Halmshaw wrote: > > # Did anybody address the question below?. > # > # Anybody ever re-built a Borg Warner QT? I've done a few chain drive New > # # Processes to the point where I wouldn't flinch if I had to > rebuild another > # # one. This BW case had the same clunking that my NP 241 in my Dodge had > # # when > # # the chain streched. Is there a center diff in the BW QT? Do the > # chains strech > # # when you run them out of oil or is there another reason? What's > # common wisdom > # # on BW QT oil these days? > # # > # # Mark Wallace > # # 81 Wag > # > # > # > # At 07:39 PM 3/11/2010, you wrote: > # >terry down in Australia has, and he'd be extremely interested > # >in a source on cones for the BW1339 as well, wouldn't ya terry? > # > > # >john > # > > # > > # > > # > ----- > # >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # >http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > > # > > # >On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, wallacem7-at-aol.com wrote: > # > > # > # -----Original Message----- > # > # From: wallacem7-at-aol.com > # > # Sent: Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:28 pm > # > # Subject: Re: fsj: dealer parts and French cars > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # Anybody ever re-built a Borg Warner QT? I've done a few > chain drive New > # > # Processes to the point where I wouldn't flinch if I had to rebuild > # > # another > # > # one. This BW case had the same clunking that my NP 241 in my > # > Dodge had when > # > # the chain streched. Is there a center diff in the BW QT? Do the > # > chains strech > # > # when you run them out of oil or is there another reason? What's > # > common wisdom > # > # on BW QT oil these days? > # > # > # > # Mark Wallace > # > # 81 Wag > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # -----Original Message----- > # > # From: Jim Blair > # > # To: wallacem7-at-aol.com; local Jeep list > # > # Sent: Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:19 pm > # > # Subject: RE: fsj: dealer parts and French cars > # > # > # > # > # > # http://BJoffroad.com has the kit to rebuild them (except new > cones, but > # > # someone was trying to re-pro them?) I have one sitting in my > # > carport that's > # > # going with BMax's Nash 327 and my '73 J4000's TH400/QT (with > # > PT/OD kit swapped > # > # in) > # > # I'm getting ready to clear out all the 4 cyl XJ/MJ parts I have > # > # kicking > # > # around too except one set to put behind the crate 2.8 V6 with > # > TBI I'm going to > # > # put in the '86 MJ I picked up from my neighbor (his 2.8 is > blown apart) > # > # > # > # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > # > # > # > # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:38:51 +0000 From: Michel Balea Subject: RE: fsj: the Quadratrac BW1339 discussion Anything to be learn for the QT is also here http://jubileejeeps.org/quadratrac/ enjoy Michel > Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:30:03 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: the Quadratrac BW1339 discussion > > hey all, terry wants a refresh on the Quadratrac topic... was > it mark, michel or ??? who started this discussion? :) > > please restate the question clearly, and you don't have to send it upside, > through the magic of the internet he'll be able to view it right side up... ;) > (lame attempt at humor... ;) > > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Terry Halmshaw > > Thank you for the introduction my friend, could you please send me the > original question (below) from the sender?, I have no idea who sent it, but > he is being filled with misguided information. > > Cheers mate. > > > At 12:25 AM 3/12/2010, you wrote: > >no one answered that I could tell... > > > > :) > > ----- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > >http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > >On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Terry Halmshaw wrote: > > > > # Did anybody address the question below?. > > # > > # Anybody ever re-built a Borg Warner QT? I've done a few chain drive New > > # # Processes to the point where I wouldn't flinch if I had to > > rebuild another > > # # one. This BW case had the same clunking that my NP 241 in my Dodge had > > # # when > > # # the chain streched. Is there a center diff in the BW QT? Do the > > # chains strech > > # # when you run them out of oil or is there another reason? What's > > # common wisdom > > # # on BW QT oil these days? > > # # > > # # Mark Wallace > > # # 81 Wag > > # > > # > > # > > # At 07:39 PM 3/11/2010, you wrote: > > # >terry down in Australia has, and he'd be extremely interested > > # >in a source on cones for the BW1339 as well, wouldn't ya terry? > > # > > > # >john > > # > > > # > > > # > > > # > ----- > > # >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > > # >http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > > # >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > # > > > # > > > # >On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, wallacem7-at-aol.com wrote: > > # > > > # > # -----Original Message----- > > # > # From: wallacem7-at-aol.com > > # > # Sent: Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:28 pm > > # > # Subject: Re: fsj: dealer parts and French cars > > # > # > > # > # > > # > # > > # > # Anybody ever re-built a Borg Warner QT? I've done a few > > chain drive New > > # > # Processes to the point where I wouldn't flinch if I had to rebuild > > # > # another > > # > # one. This BW case had the same clunking that my NP 241 in my > > # > Dodge had when > > # > # the chain streched. Is there a center diff in the BW QT? Do the > > # > chains strech > > # > # when you run them out of oil or is there another reason? What's > > # > common wisdom > > # > # on BW QT oil these days? > > # > # > > # > # Mark Wallace > > # > # 81 Wag > > # > # > > # > # > > # > # > > # > # > > # > # > > # > # > > # > # > > # > # -----Original Message----- > > # > # From: Jim Blair > > # > # To: wallacem7-at-aol.com; local Jeep list > > # > # Sent: Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:19 pm > > # > # Subject: RE: fsj: dealer parts and French cars > > # > # > > # > # > > # > # http://BJoffroad.com has the kit to rebuild them (except new > > cones, but > > # > # someone was trying to re-pro them?) I have one sitting in my > > # > carport that's > > # > # going with BMax's Nash 327 and my '73 J4000's TH400/QT (with > > # > PT/OD kit swapped > > # > # in) > > # > # I'm getting ready to clear out all the 4 cyl XJ/MJ parts I have > > # > # kicking > > # > # around too except one set to put behind the crate 2.8 V6 with > > # > TBI I'm going to > > # > # put in the '86 MJ I picked up from my neighbor (his 2.8 is > > blown apart) > > # > # > > # > # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > > # > # > > # > > # _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:23:49 -0500 From: Kim Tesar Subject: fsj: 79 J10 Alternator wiring Hi, this should be quick for those of you who've done this 20 times. The alternator has the basic two wire space connector, the big battery terminal and wire, and one more red wire that leads to the ignition switch, maybe to run the accessories? Should this last smaller wire connect also to the big battery terminal on the alternator, or there is a smaller stud, not insulated, for this one? I don't want to fry the alternator or start a Jeep b q. Thanks, Landon ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3548 **************************