From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Apr 3 12:23:09 2010 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Saturday, April 3 2010 Volume 01 : Number 3557 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: stupid question of the day RE: fsj: stupid question of the day RE: fsj: stupid question of the day fsj: Making a mess of tranny fluid FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 22:55:23 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: stupid question of the day Don't like the smell of gasoline either! I prefer the "fresh bread" exhaust smell of properly adjusted LPG engines! Oh, some Canajuns claim they are getting 97 MPG from LPG injection in a small car. Waiting to see if it's re-doable or not. John wrote: you forgot the limited slip additive... NOW there is a fragrance you can't miss... or tell apart from hitting a skunk. I am so happy that amsoil gearlube already has the necessary additive in it for limited slips... that additive was some nasty stuff. and for the record mr. blair, Diesel smells way better than gasoline and has oh so many more benefits... ;) you can clean with it... you can use it as a mild lubricant... you can irritate certain canadians with it... and... the best of all, you can go at least 40% further than gas with it... ;) _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 07:19:35 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: stupid question of the day Actually they have a system now that is exclusively run LPG. It was designed by one of the ice cream companies here and GM has been using them on their fleet vehicles with no issues (other than filling stations back east are few and far between) Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:55:31 -0800 > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com > From: timesawastin-at-bigpond.com > Subject: RE: fsj: stupid question of the day > > LPG injection on say a 1.6 liter is entirely possible to reach 90 - 100kms > to a tank of LPG, but this depends highly on the size of the tank. > > They also fail to include that injected LPG must first start on petrol then > it auto switches to LPG, so countering in the petrol they do suffer in the long > run, especially if you stop and start the car often. > > Terry Halmshaw. > > > At 09:55 PM 4/1/2010, you wrote: > >Don't like the smell of gasoline either! I prefer the "fresh bread" exhaust > >smell of properly adjusted LPG engines! Oh, some Canajuns claim they are > >getting 97 MPG from LPG injection in a small car. Waiting to see if it's > >re-doable or not. > > > > > >John wrote: > >you forgot the limited slip additive... NOW there is a fragrance > >you can't miss... or tell apart from hitting a skunk. > > > >I am so happy that amsoil gearlube already has the necessary > >additive in it for limited slips... that additive was some nasty stuff. > > > >and for the record mr. blair, Diesel smells way better than gasoline > >and has oh so many more benefits... ;) > > > >you can clean with it... > >you can use it as a mild lubricant... > >you can irritate certain canadians with it... > >and... the best of all, you can go at least 40% further than gas with it... ;) > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > >http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:W L > >:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 07:46:10 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: stupid question of the day do they use the same scenting agent as in propane? that onion based stuff I can't spell or say? that I'm allergic to... :) I much prefer Diesel, it's less trouble to handle, it's not explosive, you get more energy, you can substitute your used salad oil if you're a vegan, or your waste cooking oil from your turkey or chicken... I've even gotten myself to a fueling station on a half of quart of motor oil when I ran too low once... you can't do that with a stinking gas engine and certainly not with lp or propane... ...now, a propane injection system on my Diesel would be kind of fun... it's like nitrous... :) or so I've been told. ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, Jim Blair wrote: # Actually they have a system now that is exclusively run LPG. It was designed # by one of the ice cream companies here and GM has been using them on their # fleet vehicles with no issues (other than filling stations back east are few # and far between) # # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # # # # # > Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:55:31 -0800 # > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com # > From: timesawastin-at-bigpond.com # > Subject: RE: fsj: stupid question of the day # > # > LPG injection on say a 1.6 liter is entirely possible to reach 90 - 100kms # > to a tank of LPG, but this depends highly on the size of the tank. # > # > They also fail to include that injected LPG must first start on petrol then # > it auto switches to LPG, so countering in the petrol they do suffer in the # long # > run, especially if you stop and start the car often. # > # > Terry Halmshaw. # > # > # > At 09:55 PM 4/1/2010, you wrote: # > >Don't like the smell of gasoline either! I prefer the "fresh bread" # exhaust # > >smell of properly adjusted LPG engines! Oh, some Canajuns claim they are # > >getting 97 MPG from LPG injection in a small car. Waiting to see if it's # > >re-doable or not. # > > # > > # > >John wrote: # > >you forgot the limited slip additive... NOW there is a fragrance # > >you can't miss... or tell apart from hitting a skunk. # > > # > >I am so happy that amsoil gearlube already has the necessary # > >additive in it for limited slips... that additive was some nasty stuff. # > > # > >and for the record mr. blair, Diesel smells way better than gasoline # > >and has oh so many more benefits... ;) # > > # > >you can clean with it... # > >you can use it as a mild lubricant... # > >you can irritate certain canadians with it... # > >and... the best of all, you can go at least 40% further than gas with it... # ;) # > >_________________________________________________________________ # > >Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your # inbox. # > # >http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:W # L # > >:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 # > # # _________________________________________________________________ # Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your # inbox. # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL # :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 15:18:09 -0400 From: wallacem7-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Making a mess of tranny fluid Drain the tranny before you even consider taking it out. One time, many many years ago I decided that draining the tranny was 'too much work' so I pulled the T-case and pulled the engine with the tranny. The tranny output shaft's seal is in the T-Case if I remember correctly and I made an enormous mess of transmission fluid. No big deal right...just put down some speedy dry and continue to work. Only speedy dry, and tranny fluid in your shirt makes a very itchy combination. I think I was changing my shirt three times a day during that little job. I reinstalled the trans with an aluminum deep finned pan with a drain plug. Same goes for the T-case, drain that before it comes out as well. I need to service the trans on my Dakota right now and it still has the original tranny pan on it. I went to the Pep Boys to get a big oil drain pain and they had a whole lot of nothing. I think I'll get one of the little concrete mixing tubs at the Home Despot or Lowes...more than big enough and then I can clean it up and mix cement in it later . They are polyethylene so no chemicals (Diesel, gas, MEK, trannny fluid) should attack the plastic. You can pull a valve body with the trans in the truck...probably the easiest way to do it. On the TF 727 access to some of the pan bolts is not great, but it's easy enough to pull the crossmember and set the trans on a jackstand. I'd put the whole Jeep on jackstands...if I remember correctly when you pull the valve body you lose 'park' Changing the trans fluid and adjusting the bands is something that needs to be done from time to time to get a long life out of the trans anyway. Mark Wallace 81 Wag ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3557 **************************