From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon May 24 22:43:00 2010 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Tuesday, May 25 2010 Volume 01 : Number 3580 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: wagoneers.com Re: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect RE: fsj: wagoneers.com RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect RE: fsj: wagoneers.com RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect Re: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 20:26:28 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: wagoneers.com PS: if anyone is interested I would let virtualjeep go for $6 ,000 to cover the cost of my septic system! : Mon, 24 May 2010 20:18:24 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: xj: RE: fsj: wagoneers.com Dang! I tried that urlappraisal site and it said virtualjeep was worth -at-Your Estimated Site Worth Is: $15,846.53 > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 15:03:53 -0700 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:06:01 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect ammonia is a base... ph is around 11 from what I could tell from the wiki... add acid to make it neutral. ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 24 May 2010, Joe Hughes wrote: # I think your supposed to use Ammonia for aluminum and Stainless. # # Joe H. # Everett, WA # # On 5/24/2010 9:30 AM, Michel Balea wrote: # > What is the best way to separate 2 metals that have decided to fuse # > together. # > It is aluminum and stainless. The 5/16" pin is stainless and holding the 2 # > aluminum rails together. It is a bike rack for tandem. # > # > I have tried a few things, next step is naval jelly! # > # > Thank you # > # > Michel # > # > _________________________________________________________________ # > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with # > Hotmail. # > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 # > 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:09:50 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: wagoneers.com yeah, wish us both the best of luck with that... I've got to come up with 14,600 by next week... having the house reroofed... :( ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 24 May 2010, Jim Blair wrote: # Dang! I tried that urlappraisal site and it said virtualjeep was worth -at-Your Estimated Site Worth Is: # $15,846.53 # # > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 15:03:53 -0700 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com # > CC: xj-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com; fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: RE: fsj: wagoneers.com # > # > Urlappraisal.net says $27,814.37. # > # > dan black says dnscop or something like that put it at $1510. # > # > I would like something in the middle I guess... ;) # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Mon, 24 May 2010, Jim Blair wrote: # > # > # If I knew that answer I would probably have sold virtualjeep.com by now as # > # BJsoffroad.com pretty much does what I had inind for it. I just paid up # > # another 2 years hosting on it with godaddy.com # > # # > # > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 11:52:31 -0700 # > # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > # > To: # > # > Subject: fsj: wagoneers.com # > # > # > # > I'm seriously considering selling the "wagoneers.com" domain. # > # > # > # > I have to relocate the server in the near future... # > # > # > # > wagoneers.com gets a lot of traffic so it's going to be a challenge to find # > # a # > # > suitable location that will not degrade it's performance... # > # > # > # > I registered the domain in 1997 or so. I've tried hosting it on lower speed # > # connections # > # > and it was horrible... rather than attempt to do that again I'll sell it. # > # > # > # > # > # > It's been in the top 10% of registered domains for some time... not sure # > # where 482,554 ranks # > # > overall, haven't looked for some time, nor have I done anything to enhance # > # it. # > # > # > # > I will keep most of my content at johnmeister.com, but would be willing to # > # sell # > # > content that is suitable with the domain... # > # > and of course the advertising, although it's quite limited. # > # > # > # > # > # > Anyone know how to market/sell a well established and commercially viable # > # domain???? # > # > # > # > Of course I'd consider trading for camera gear or vehicles... ;) # > # > # > # > Oh yeah, and you get the FSJ sticker and all rights to it as well... # > # > # > # > for the right price I'll sell the physical server as well... it's a Sun # > # Ultra 20 running Opertron # > # > chip set and SuSE Linux... # > # > # > # > physical hosting is also available, not sure what the monthly costs will be, # > # I can research that... # > # > # > # > john # > # > # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # # > # _________________________________________________________________ # > # The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. # > # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL # > # :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 # > # # # _________________________________________________________________ # Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:34:05 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect if you can get the two metals at different temperatures it might free up... cold on the stainless steel so it contracts, and warmer on the Al so it expands... once you get them free I'd ream the hole, sand and seal the stainless pin and lubricate with amsoil synthetic grease. too bad you're not closer, I know I'd be able to mix up something in my shop to get it loose... :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 25 May 2010, Michel Balea wrote: # Hum, Terry said acid Joe said ammonia, Michel has been using aluminum naval # jelly, it is still stuck. I used pb blaster and heat -moderatly- before asking # for help for the last 3 months, a little bit at a time. # # Basically it is a stainless pin, sliding in a aluminum sheath. The idea is to # be able to swivel the rack, then put the pin in when the bike is in place. # Useful for the tall FSJ, otherwise 2 stepping stools will have to do the job. # # Thank you for the support # # Michel # # > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 18:10:28 -0700 # > From: joe-at-j-hughes.com # > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: Re: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect # > # > I think your supposed to use Ammonia for aluminum and Stainless. # > # > Joe H. # > Everett, WA # > # > On 5/24/2010 9:30 AM, Michel Balea wrote: # > > What is the best way to separate 2 metals that have decided to fuse # together. # > > It is aluminum and stainless. The 5/16" pin is stainless and holding the # 2 # > > aluminum rails together. It is a bike rack for tandem. # > > # > > I have tried a few things, next step is naval jelly! # > > # > > Thank you # > > # > > Michel # > > # > > _________________________________________________________________ # > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with # > > Hotmail. # > > # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 # > > 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 # # _________________________________________________________________ # The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with # Hotmail. # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 # 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:44:43 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: wagoneers.com Sounds a bit high? Tile or 30 year 3 tab? > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:09:50 -0700 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com > CC: xj-at-digest.net; wj-grand-at-yahoogroups.com; fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: RE: fsj: wagoneers.com > > yeah, wish us both the best of luck with that... I've got to come up with 14,600 by next > week... having the house reroofed... :( > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Mon, 24 May 2010, Jim Blair wrote: > > # Dang! I tried that urlappraisal site and it said virtualjeep was worth -at-Your Estimated Site Worth Is: > # $15,846.53 > # > # > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 15:03:53 -0700 > # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > # > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com > # > CC: xj-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com; fsj-at-digest.net > # > Subject: RE: fsj: wagoneers.com > # > > # > Urlappraisal.net says $27,814.37. > # > > # > dan black says dnscop or something like that put it at $1510. > # > > # > I would like something in the middle I guess... ;) > # > > # > > # > > # > ----- > # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > > # > > # > On Mon, 24 May 2010, Jim Blair wrote: > # > > # > # If I knew that answer I would probably have sold virtualjeep.com by now as > # > # BJsoffroad.com pretty much does what I had inind for it. I just paid up > # > # another 2 years hosting on it with godaddy.com > # > # > # > # > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 11:52:31 -0700 > # > # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > # > # > To: > # > # > Subject: fsj: wagoneers.com > # > # > > # > # > I'm seriously considering selling the "wagoneers.com" domain. > # > # > > # > # > I have to relocate the server in the near future... > # > # > > # > # > wagoneers.com gets a lot of traffic so it's going to be a challenge to find > # > # a > # > # > suitable location that will not degrade it's performance... > # > # > > # > # > I registered the domain in 1997 or so. I've tried hosting it on lower speed > # > # connections > # > # > and it was horrible... rather than attempt to do that again I'll sell it. > # > # > > # > # > > # > # > It's been in the top 10% of registered domains for some time... not sure > # > # where 482,554 ranks > # > # > overall, haven't looked for some time, nor have I done anything to enhance > # > # it. > # > # > > # > # > I will keep most of my content at johnmeister.com, but would be willing to > # > # sell > # > # > content that is suitable with the domain... > # > # > and of course the advertising, although it's quite limited. > # > # > > # > # > > # > # > Anyone know how to market/sell a well established and commercially viable > # > # domain???? > # > # > > # > # > Of course I'd consider trading for camera gear or vehicles... ;) > # > # > > # > # > Oh yeah, and you get the FSJ sticker and all rights to it as well... > # > # > > # > # > for the right price I'll sell the physical server as well... it's a Sun > # > # Ultra 20 running Opertron > # > # > chip set and SuSE Linux... > # > # > > # > # > physical hosting is also available, not sure what the monthly costs will be, > # > # I can research that... > # > # > > # > # > john > # > # > > # > # > > # > # > ----- > # > # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > # > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # > # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > # > # > # _________________________________________________________________ > # > # The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > # > # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL > # > # :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > # > # > # > # _________________________________________________________________ > # Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 05:06:11 +0000 From: Michel Balea Subject: RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect Temperature differential was my initial thought, but how do you spray liquid nitrogen on a 1/4" pin, while heating the aluminum support with a suitable device either be a small creme brule torch or a heat gun and if metal expand, the hole should shrink in size...... The 5lbs hammer is the next step after the chemical treatment of rust disolver. As for the Acid-alcali or redox treatment, I need to get to a little chemistry research on the ion exchange rules and it seems like the citric acid treatment may be the way to do it. Cheers Michel > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:34:05 -0700 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com > CC: joe-at-j-hughes.com; fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect > > if you can get the two metals at different temperatures it might free up... > cold on the stainless steel so it contracts, and warmer on the Al so it > expands... once you get them free I'd ream the hole, sand and seal the stainless > pin and lubricate with amsoil synthetic grease. > > too bad you're not closer, I know I'd be able to mix up something in my shop to > get it loose... :) > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Tue, 25 May 2010, Michel Balea wrote: > > # Hum, Terry said acid Joe said ammonia, Michel has been using aluminum naval > # jelly, it is still stuck. I used pb blaster and heat -moderatly- before asking > # for help for the last 3 months, a little bit at a time. > # > # Basically it is a stainless pin, sliding in a aluminum sheath. The idea is to > # be able to swivel the rack, then put the pin in when the bike is in place. > # Useful for the tall FSJ, otherwise 2 stepping stools will have to do the job. > # > # Thank you for the support > # > # Michel > # > # > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 18:10:28 -0700 > # > From: joe-at-j-hughes.com > # > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net > # > Subject: Re: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect > # > > # > I think your supposed to use Ammonia for aluminum and Stainless. > # > > # > Joe H. > # > Everett, WA > # > > # > On 5/24/2010 9:30 AM, Michel Balea wrote: > # > > What is the best way to separate 2 metals that have decided to fuse > # together. > # > > It is aluminum and stainless. The 5/16" pin is stainless and holding the > # 2 > # > > aluminum rails together. It is a bike rack for tandem. > # > > > # > > I have tried a few things, next step is naval jelly! > # > > > # > > Thank you > # > > > # > > Michel > # > > > # > > _________________________________________________________________ > # > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > # > > Hotmail. > # > > > # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 > # > > 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > # > # _________________________________________________________________ > # The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with > # Hotmail. > # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 > # 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 > # _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 22:22:47 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect I recall using reverse electrolysis to seperate stuff, but the ion transfer between steel and aluminum (probably stainless as well) makes a VERY formidable oxide with the strength of an epoxy! > From: mbalea-at-hotmail.com > To: john-at-wagoneers.com > CC: joe-at-j-hughes.com; fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect > Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 05:06:11 +0000 > > Temperature differential was my initial thought, but how do you spray liquid > nitrogen on a 1/4" pin, while heating the aluminum support with a suitable > device either be a small creme brule torch or a heat gun and if metal expand, > the hole should shrink in size...... The 5lbs hammer is the next step after > the chemical treatment of rust disolver. > > As for the Acid-alcali or redox treatment, I need to get to a little chemistry > research on the ion exchange rules and it seems like the citric acid treatment > may be the way to do it. > > Cheers > Michel > > > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:34:05 -0700 > > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com > > CC: joe-at-j-hughes.com; fsj-at-digest.net > > Subject: RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect > > > > if you can get the two metals at different temperatures it might free up... > > cold on the stainless steel so it contracts, and warmer on the Al so it > > expands... once you get them free I'd ream the hole, sand and seal the > stainless > > pin and lubricate with amsoil synthetic grease. > > > > too bad you're not closer, I know I'd be able to mix up something in my shop > to > > get it loose... :) > > > > john > > > > > > > > ----- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > On Tue, 25 May 2010, Michel Balea wrote: > > > > # Hum, Terry said acid Joe said ammonia, Michel has been using aluminum > naval > > # jelly, it is still stuck. I used pb blaster and heat -moderatly- before > asking > > # for help for the last 3 months, a little bit at a time. > > # > > # Basically it is a stainless pin, sliding in a aluminum sheath. The idea > is to > > # be able to swivel the rack, then put the pin in when the bike is in > place. > > # Useful for the tall FSJ, otherwise 2 stepping stools will have to do the > job. > > # > > # Thank you for the support > > # > > # Michel > > # > > # > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 18:10:28 -0700 > > # > From: joe-at-j-hughes.com > > # > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net > > # > Subject: Re: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect > > # > > > # > I think your supposed to use Ammonia for aluminum and Stainless. > > # > > > # > Joe H. > > # > Everett, WA > > # > > > # > On 5/24/2010 9:30 AM, Michel Balea wrote: > > # > > What is the best way to separate 2 metals that have decided to fuse > > # together. > > # > > It is aluminum and stainless. The 5/16" pin is stainless and holding > the > > # 2 > > # > > aluminum rails together. It is a bike rack for tandem. > > # > > > > # > > I have tried a few things, next step is naval jelly! > > # > > > > # > > Thank you > > # > > > > # > > Michel > > # > > > > # > > _________________________________________________________________ > > # > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts > with > > # > > Hotmail. > > # > > > > # > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 > > # > > 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > > # > > # _________________________________________________________________ > > # The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars > with > > # Hotmail. > > # > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 > > # 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 > > # > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 > 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 22:33:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Loxtercamp Subject: Re: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect Why not just cut off the pin on both sides, center punch it (also on both sides) and drill out the ends of the pin till it drops into the aluminum rails? Greg ________________________________ From: Michel Balea To: john wagoneer Cc: joe diesel6bt ; fsj digest Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 12:06:11 AM Subject: RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect Temperature differential was my initial thought, but how do you spray liquid nitrogen on a 1/4" pin, while heating the aluminum support with a suitable device either be a small creme brule torch or a heat gun and if metal expand, the hole should shrink in size...... The 5lbs hammer is the next step after the chemical treatment of rust disolver. As for the Acid-alcali or redox treatment, I need to get to a little chemistry research on the ion exchange rules and it seems like the citric acid treatment may be the way to do it. Cheers Michel > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:34:05 -0700 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com > CC: joe-at-j-hughes.com; fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect > > if you can get the two metals at different temperatures it might free up... > cold on the stainless steel so it contracts, and warmer on the Al so it > expands... once you get them free I'd ream the hole, sand and seal the stainless > pin and lubricate with amsoil synthetic grease. > > too bad you're not closer, I know I'd be able to mix up something in my shop to > get it loose... :) > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Tue, 25 May 2010, Michel Balea wrote: > > # Hum, Terry said acid Joe said ammonia, Michel has been using aluminum naval > # jelly, it is still stuck. I used pb blaster and heat -moderatly- before asking > # for help for the last 3 months, a little bit at a time. > # > # Basically it is a stainless pin, sliding in a aluminum sheath. The idea is to > # be able to swivel the rack, then put the pin in when the bike is in place. > # Useful for the tall FSJ, otherwise 2 stepping stools will have to do the job. > # > # Thank you for the support > # > # Michel > # > # > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 18:10:28 -0700 > # > From: joe-at-j-hughes.com > # > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net > # > Subject: Re: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect > # > > # > I think your supposed to use Ammonia for aluminum and Stainless. > # > > # > Joe H. > # > Everett, WA > # > > # > On 5/24/2010 9:30 AM, Michel Balea wrote: > # > > What is the best way to separate 2 metals that have decided to fuse > # together. > # > > It is aluminum and stainless. The 5/16" pin is stainless and holding the > # 2 > # > > aluminum rails together. It is a bike rack for tandem. > # > > > # > > I have tried a few things, next step is naval jelly! > # > > > # > > Thank you > # > > > # > > Michel > # > > > # > > _________________________________________________________________ > # > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > # > > Hotmail. > # > > > # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 > # > > 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > # > # _________________________________________________________________ > # The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with > # Hotmail. > # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 > # 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 > # _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3580 **************************