From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue May 25 20:59:43 2010 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, May 26 2010 Volume 01 : Number 3581 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: fsj: wagoneers.com RE: fsj: wagoneers.com RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect Re: fsj: wagoneers.com RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect RE: fsj: wagoneers.com RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect DONE RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect DONE FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 06:14:27 -0500 From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: wagoneers.com I just tried some of mine, and a couple of them came up around $23K. Looking at their explanations, and looking at my domain stats, those high amounts are probably entirely due to age. A couple of mine that came up that high are a decade old. I'm sure they're not really worth that; one of them, I would sell for that price in a heartbeat, and the others, I'd seriously consider. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 22:26, Jim Blair wrote: > PS: if anyone is interested I would let virtualjeep go for $6 ,000 to cover > the cost of my septic system! > > : Mon, 24 May 2010 20:18:24 -0700 > From: Jim Blair > Subject: xj: RE: fsj: wagoneers.com > > Dang! I tried that urlappraisal site and it said virtualjeep was worth -at-Your > Estimated Site Worth Is: > $15,846.53 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 10:19:00 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: wagoneers.com shake. got a deal because business is in a slump. the guy knocked 6k off... and composition estimates ranged from 12,500 to 23,500... remember, we have a 12/12 roof... :) small house, but what is up there is hard to hang on to... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 24 May 2010, Jim Blair wrote: # Sounds a bit high? Tile or 30 year 3 tab? # # > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:09:50 -0700 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com # > CC: xj-at-digest.net; wj-grand-at-yahoogroups.com; fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: RE: fsj: wagoneers.com # > # > yeah, wish us both the best of luck with that... I've got to come up with 14,600 by next # > week... having the house reroofed... :( # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Mon, 24 May 2010, Jim Blair wrote: # > # > # Dang! I tried that urlappraisal site and it said virtualjeep was worth -at-Your Estimated Site Worth Is: # > # $15,846.53 # > # # > # > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 15:03:53 -0700 # > # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > # > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com # > # > CC: xj-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com; fsj-at-digest.net # > # > Subject: RE: fsj: wagoneers.com # > # > # > # > Urlappraisal.net says $27,814.37. # > # > # > # > dan black says dnscop or something like that put it at $1510. # > # > # > # > I would like something in the middle I guess... ;) # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > # > # > # > On Mon, 24 May 2010, Jim Blair wrote: # > # > # > # > # If I knew that answer I would probably have sold virtualjeep.com by now as # > # > # BJsoffroad.com pretty much does what I had inind for it. I just paid up # > # > # another 2 years hosting on it with godaddy.com # > # > # # > # > # > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 11:52:31 -0700 # > # > # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > # > # > To: # > # > # > Subject: fsj: wagoneers.com # > # > # > # > # > # > I'm seriously considering selling the "wagoneers.com" domain. # > # > # > # > # > # > I have to relocate the server in the near future... # > # > # > # > # > # > wagoneers.com gets a lot of traffic so it's going to be a challenge to find # > # > # a # > # > # > suitable location that will not degrade it's performance... # > # > # > # > # > # > I registered the domain in 1997 or so. I've tried hosting it on lower speed # > # > # connections # > # > # > and it was horrible... rather than attempt to do that again I'll sell it. # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > It's been in the top 10% of registered domains for some time... not sure # > # > # where 482,554 ranks # > # > # > overall, haven't looked for some time, nor have I done anything to enhance # > # > # it. # > # > # > # > # > # > I will keep most of my content at johnmeister.com, but would be willing to # > # > # sell # > # > # > content that is suitable with the domain... # > # > # > and of course the advertising, although it's quite limited. # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > Anyone know how to market/sell a well established and commercially viable # > # > # domain???? # > # > # > # > # > # > Of course I'd consider trading for camera gear or vehicles... ;) # > # > # > # > # > # > Oh yeah, and you get the FSJ sticker and all rights to it as well... # > # > # > # > # > # > for the right price I'll sell the physical server as well... it's a Sun # > # > # Ultra 20 running Opertron # > # > # > chip set and SuSE Linux... # > # > # > # > # > # > physical hosting is also available, not sure what the monthly costs will be, # > # > # I can research that... # > # > # > # > # > # > john # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > # > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # # > # > # _________________________________________________________________ # > # > # The New Busy is not the old busy. 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Get more from your inbox. # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 10:20:15 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect you could drill it out, or punch it out, and then sleeve it... the aluminum will be a challenge to work with though... you may need to fabricate a "splint" setup over it later... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 25 May 2010, Michel Balea wrote: # # Temperature differential was my initial thought, but how do you spray liquid nitrogen on a 1/4" pin, while heating the aluminum support with a suitable device either be a small creme brule torch or a heat gun and if metal expand, the hole should shrink in size...... The 5lbs hammer is the next step after the chemical treatment of rust disolver. # # As for the Acid-alcali or redox treatment, I need to get to a little chemistry research on the ion exchange rules and it seems like the citric acid treatment may be the way to do it. # # Cheers # Michel # # > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:34:05 -0700 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com # > CC: joe-at-j-hughes.com; fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect # > # > if you can get the two metals at different temperatures it might free up... # > cold on the stainless steel so it contracts, and warmer on the Al so it # > expands... once you get them free I'd ream the hole, sand and seal the stainless # > pin and lubricate with amsoil synthetic grease. # > # > too bad you're not closer, I know I'd be able to mix up something in my shop to # > get it loose... :) # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Tue, 25 May 2010, Michel Balea wrote: # > # > # Hum, Terry said acid Joe said ammonia, Michel has been using aluminum naval # > # jelly, it is still stuck. I used pb blaster and heat -moderatly- before asking # > # for help for the last 3 months, a little bit at a time. # > # # > # Basically it is a stainless pin, sliding in a aluminum sheath. The idea is to # > # be able to swivel the rack, then put the pin in when the bike is in place. # > # Useful for the tall FSJ, otherwise 2 stepping stools will have to do the job. # > # # > # Thank you for the support # > # # > # Michel # > # # > # > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 18:10:28 -0700 # > # > From: joe-at-j-hughes.com # > # > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net # > # > Subject: Re: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect # > # > # > # > I think your supposed to use Ammonia for aluminum and Stainless. # > # > # > # > Joe H. # > # > Everett, WA # > # > # > # > On 5/24/2010 9:30 AM, Michel Balea wrote: # > # > > What is the best way to separate 2 metals that have decided to fuse # > # together. # > # > > It is aluminum and stainless. The 5/16" pin is stainless and holding the # > # 2 # > # > > aluminum rails together. It is a bike rack for tandem. # > # > > # > # > > I have tried a few things, next step is naval jelly! # > # > > # > # > > Thank you # > # > > # > # > > Michel # > # > > # > # > > _________________________________________________________________ # > # > > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with # > # > > Hotmail. # > # > > # > # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 # > # > > 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 # > # # > # _________________________________________________________________ # > # The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with # > # Hotmail. # > # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 # > # 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 # > # # # _________________________________________________________________ # The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 10:32:00 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: wagoneers.com so what do you think wagoneers.com might be worth? john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 25 May 2010, Dan Black wrote: # I just tried some of mine, and a couple of them came up around $23K. # Looking at their explanations, and looking at my domain stats, those # high amounts are probably entirely due to age. A couple of mine that # came up that high are a decade old. I'm sure they're not really worth # that; one of them, I would sell for that price in a heartbeat, and the # others, I'd seriously consider. # # On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 22:26, Jim Blair wrote: # > PS: if anyone is interested I would let virtualjeep go for $6 ,000 to cover # > the cost of my septic system! # > # > : Mon, 24 May 2010 20:18:24 -0700 # > From: Jim Blair # > Subject: xj: RE: fsj: wagoneers.com # > # > Dang! I tried that urlappraisal site and it said virtualjeep was worth -at-Your # > Estimated Site Worth Is: # > $15,846.53 # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 17:32:28 +0000 From: Michel Balea Subject: RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect The pin is riding in a sleeve inserted in a square aluminum rail to give it strength -basically a rotating point to carry the whole tandem to ease its loading on the roof rack- if I hammer the pin, the sleeve moves as well, forcing them out and creating another issue. The easy way was to forget about rotating the rack and loading up the bike, as this is a 2 person operatiom, but if gouging the paint is not a problem on the wagoneer, on other people's vehicle it may not be acceptable. I know the easy way is to buy another rack, as they are on sale , but we like to recycle...... and $320 for a $#*% stuck pin is not acceptable at this point. May be after I stab myself or break something else. Thank for the ideas Michel > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 22:33:57 -0700 > From: greglox-at-yahoo.com > Why not just cut off the pin on both sides, center punch it (also on both sides) and drill out the ends of the pin till it drops into the aluminum rails? > > Greg _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 11:13:38 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect have you contacted the vendor? any pictures? :) we love engineering problems... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 25 May 2010, Michel Balea wrote: # The pin is riding in a sleeve inserted in a square aluminum rail to give it # strength -basically a rotating point to carry the whole tandem to ease its # loading on the roof rack- if I hammer the pin, the sleeve moves as well, # forcing them out and creating another issue. The easy way was to forget about # rotating the rack and loading up the bike, as this is a 2 person operatiom, # but if gouging the paint is not a problem on the wagoneer, on other people's # vehicle it may not be acceptable. I know the easy way is to buy another rack, # as they are on sale , but we like to recycle...... and $320 for a $#*% stuck # pin is not acceptable at this point. May be after I stab myself or break # something else. # # Thank for the ideas # # Michel # # # > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 22:33:57 -0700 # > From: greglox-at-yahoo.com # > Why not just cut off the pin on both sides, center punch it (also on both # sides) and drill out the ends of the pin till it drops into the aluminum # rails? # > # > Greg # # _________________________________________________________________ # Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL # :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 11:15:55 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: wagoneers.com they'll likely bulldoze me under the turf and take it... but that they know about it, and have for over a decade offers me a little protection against them taking it from me. :) I was surprised that I have never been challenged by them on it... even appeared in one of their videos... :) but yes, I'd love for this thing to find a home with a commercial interest that had the horsepower, skill and saavy to really make something useful for all full size jeep owners... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 25 May 2010, Michel Balea wrote: # # It could be worth $100K or $1M if we convince someone at Chrysler or whoever is in charge that they need to rebadge a newer vehicle "Wagoneer", to stimulate their sales...... # # I can tell you stories about the extent of some of the deception that are going on in the world..... buying low and selling high, it all depends on what you think that it is worth or made believed of its value. # # Anyone working at a big marketting firm...... # # We need to resurrect the wagoneer name :-) # # Michel # # > Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 10:32:00 -0700 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: dan-at-black.org # > CC: fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: Re: fsj: wagoneers.com # > # > so what do you think wagoneers.com might be worth? # > # > john # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Tue, 25 May 2010, Dan Black wrote: # > # > # I just tried some of mine, and a couple of them came up around $23K. # > # Looking at their explanations, and looking at my domain stats, those # > # high amounts are probably entirely due to age. A couple of mine that # > # came up that high are a decade old. I'm sure they're not really worth # > # that; one of them, I would sell for that price in a heartbeat, and the # > # others, I'd seriously consider. # > # # > # On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 22:26, Jim Blair wrote: # > # > PS: if anyone is interested I would let virtualjeep go for $6 ,000 to cover # > # > the cost of my septic system! # > # > # > # > : Mon, 24 May 2010 20:18:24 -0700 # > # > From: Jim Blair # > # > Subject: xj: RE: fsj: wagoneers.com # > # > # > # > Dang! I tried that urlappraisal site and it said virtualjeep was worth -at-Your # > # > Estimated Site Worth Is: # > # > $15,846.53 # > # # # _________________________________________________________________ # Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 00:18:21 +0000 From: Michel Balea Subject: RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect DONE OK, done and pict references. Not having any HCl at home, I let the evapo-rust do its job, while designing a tool to hammer the pin out, but not the sleeve -see picts- With the right driver, and Mr. 5lbs hammer, it slid w some efforts. The pin has some scuff marks, but no signs of corrosion. http://picasaweb.google.com/jeepmr/TandemRack# Thank you for your support and advice. Michel > Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:59:13 -0700 > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com > From: timesawastin-at-bigpond.com > Subject: RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect > > "May be after I stab myself or break > something else." > > Drastic, but LMAO! > > Terry > > > At 10:32 AM 5/25/2010, you wrote: > >The pin is riding in a sleeve inserted in a square aluminum rail to give it > >strength -basically a rotating point to carry the whole tandem to ease its > >loading on the roof rack- if I hammer the pin, the sleeve moves as well, > >forcing them out and creating another issue. The easy way was to forget about > >rotating the rack and loading up the bike, as this is a 2 person operatiom, > >but if gouging the paint is not a problem on the wagoneer, on other people's > >vehicle it may not be acceptable. I know the easy way is to buy another rack, > >as they are on sale , but we like to recycle...... and $320 for a $#*% stuck > >pin is not acceptable at this point. May be after I stab myself or break > >something else. > > > >Thank for the ideas > > > >Michel > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 22:33:57 -0700 > > > From: greglox-at-yahoo.com > > > Why not just cut off the pin on both sides, center punch it (also on both > >sides) and drill out the ends of the pin till it drops into the aluminum > >rails? > > > > > > Greg > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > >http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:W L > >:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 > _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 20:58:58 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect DONE :) http://picasaweb.google.com/jeepmr/TandemRack#5475377779260182914 you were a bit too far north and a bit east... would have been under your left wing... :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 26 May 2010, Michel Balea wrote: # OK, done and pict references. # # Not having any HCl at home, I let the evapo-rust do its job, while designing a # tool to hammer the pin out, but not the sleeve -see picts- # # With the right driver, and Mr. 5lbs hammer, it slid w some efforts. The pin # has some scuff marks, but no signs of corrosion. # # # http://picasaweb.google.com/jeepmr/TandemRack# # # Thank you for your support and advice. # # Michel # # > Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:59:13 -0700 # > To: mbalea-at-hotmail.com # > From: timesawastin-at-bigpond.com # > Subject: RE: fsj: OT: electrolytic galvanic effect # > # > "May be after I stab myself or break # > something else." # > # > Drastic, but LMAO! # > # > Terry # > # > # > At 10:32 AM 5/25/2010, you wrote: # > >The pin is riding in a sleeve inserted in a square aluminum rail to give # it # > >strength -basically a rotating point to carry the whole tandem to ease its # > >loading on the roof rack- if I hammer the pin, the sleeve moves as well, # > >forcing them out and creating another issue. The easy way was to forget # about # > >rotating the rack and loading up the bike, as this is a 2 person # operatiom, # > >but if gouging the paint is not a problem on the wagoneer, on other # people's # > >vehicle it may not be acceptable. I know the easy way is to buy another # rack, # > >as they are on sale , but we like to recycle...... and $320 for a $#*% # stuck # > >pin is not acceptable at this point. May be after I stab myself or break # > >something else. # > > # > >Thank for the ideas # > > # > >Michel # > > # > > # > > > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 22:33:57 -0700 # > > > From: greglox-at-yahoo.com # > > > Why not just cut off the pin on both sides, center punch it (also on # both # > >sides) and drill out the ends of the pin till it drops into the aluminum # > >rails? # > > > # > > > Greg # > > # > >_________________________________________________________________ # > >Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your # inbox. # > # >http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:W # L # > >:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 # > # # _________________________________________________________________ # The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with # Hotmail. # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 # 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 # ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3581 **************************