From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Jun 15 17:43:03 2010 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Wednesday, June 16 2010 Volume 01 : Number 3590 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: photo request fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list fsj: OT: Mercury fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs Re: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs RE: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs RE: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs Re: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs RE: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs RE: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 23:17:44 -0400 From: wallacem7-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: photo request Hey all - Can someone snap me a picture of where the fuel lines come up on the frame near the steering column and send it to me off list? A straight down pic would be best. This is where the fuel pump and fuel return lines go from steel to rubber to go to the fuel pump and fuel filter respectively. The long and the short of it is that I bent new fuel lines matching the originals as best as I could. They are close, but they are not perfect. I am just not sure how they are supposed to tuck around the front brake pipes and the steering column. So far everything else seems to fit pretty well. So almost done with the frame repair job that I started last November and then got interrupted for five months. The rear springs are in, as are the shackles with their new bushings from BJ's. The Axle is in, the fuel and brake pipes are close. Everything is painted in black rust-oleum. Nothing is torqued down yet, but all the bolts are in. Still need to remember where I put the rear driveshaft. So I get to finish the brake pipes, run new rubber hose for the fuel system, bleed the brakes (fingers crossed no leaks) torque everything down and then go for a drive around the block. Then I'll realize just how silly my 235's look with a three inch lift. Mark 81 Wag ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:15:01 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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I am monitoring the logs on the server, and when I see TLS related problems, I manually place the problem destinations on a special exception list; however, this may delay email to the destination host until I make the exception. 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? a) are you using the right address? send to majordomo-at-digest.net, and the command format is unsubscribe list-name my-email-address b) has your email address changed? majordomo has no way of knowing that Fred.Flinstone-at-BarneyCo.com was once fflintstone-at-bedrock.org. you can check this with the which command (see 1.b) above for details) 3. How do I post to the list? You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw-at-digest.net or bmw-digest-at-digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:59:01 -0500 From: Dan Black Subject: fsj: OT: Mercury http://businessweek.com/news/2010-06-02/ford-to-end-mercury-brand-this-year-expand-lincoln-update2-.html How did I miss this, almost two weeks ago? Ford is dropping Mercury... That actually makes sense, since a lot of the modern base models include pretty much the same things as the midline models -- AC, auto transmission, power everything, etc. Heck, ever since I got a Mark VIII, I've wondered why they didn't copy the interior setup to the cheaper cars. Obviously they could leave out the more expensive materials (like leather) and things (like the nicer stereos). But if they laid out all the controls in the same positions, where they actually _fit_ comfortably and are easy to reach and use, then they'd make their cheaper cars a lot more attractive, and they'd probably even save in production costs. Most of the target audience for the higher-end brands like Lincoln are going to buy them anyway, to get the "classier" materials and brand. You're not going to lose very many Lincoln customers to the cheaper Ford brand just because the Ford version is almost as comfortable. Also, look at all the options they have on the Mustang. V6, GT V8, Cobra V8, convertibles at all levels, stereo options, transmission options, etc. All under the Ford brand. They could still easily have options for other Ford models that would essentially cover everything the Mercury brand covered. Not that I dislike Mercury. I do like them, and I'm a little sorry to see them go. I'm just saying, from a business standpoint, it's not a bad move, and we're not really losing much in the way of options. Oh, and that article also says Saturn was canceled... When did that happen? I will say I _am_ happy to see _them_ go. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:43:17 -0700 (PDT) From: JR McNeil Subject: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs I seem to remember that someone on this site was selling stainless? plugs to screw into FSJ iron exhaust manifolds when the "air tubes" were not required. Anyone know who that is...or where else they can be had? Has anyone simply closed the holes in the factory air tube "bolts"? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:45:04 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs tacoma screw or any other standard hardware supply should work, don't remember the thread pitch... have done this before... if I get time (unlikely for days) I can look at the threads on the air setup, have some hanging out in the shop... john JR McNeil wrote: > I seem to remember that someone on this site was selling stainless? plugs to screw into FSJ iron exhaust manifolds when the "air tubes" were not required. Anyone know who that is...or where else they can be had? > > Has anyone simply closed the holes in the factory air tube "bolts"? > > > - -- ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:11:35 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs They are 15 mm in some and 9/16 fine in others. I think I still have non-air manifolds to put on my 304 (the 290 doesn't have them) I'll soon be parting the '76 shortbox (selling box with tailgate for $200) with J20 axles. Probably will put the axles under the Travelall (open knuckle is much nicer for steering!) > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:45:04 -0700 > From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net > To: preacherfuzz279-at-yahoo.com > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs > > tacoma screw or any other standard hardware supply should work, don't > remember the thread pitch... > have done this before... if I get time (unlikely for days) I can look at > the threads on the air setup, > have some hanging out in the shop... > > john > > JR McNeil wrote: > > I seem to remember that someone on this site was selling stainless? plugs to screw into FSJ iron exhaust manifolds when the "air tubes" were not required. Anyone know who that is...or where else they can be had? > > > > Has anyone simply closed the holes in the factory air tube "bolts"? > > > > > > > > -- > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:19:01 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs PS: NAPA carries ones that work which are for plugging where tubes (brake lines, etc) are taken off. > From: carnuck-at-hotmail.com > To: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net; fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: RE: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:11:35 -0700 > > They are 15 mm in some and 9/16 fine in others. I think I still have non-air > manifolds to put on my 304 (the 290 doesn't have them) > I'll soon be parting the '76 shortbox (selling box with tailgate for $200) > with J20 axles. Probably will put the axles under the Travelall (open knuckle > is much nicer for steering!) > > > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:45:04 -0700 > > From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net > > To: preacherfuzz279-at-yahoo.com > > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > > Subject: Re: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs > > > > tacoma screw or any other standard hardware supply should work, don't > > remember the thread pitch... > > have done this before... if I get time (unlikely for days) I can look at > > the threads on the air setup, > > have some hanging out in the shop... > > > > john > > > > JR McNeil wrote: > > > I seem to remember that someone on this site was selling stainless? plugs > to screw into FSJ iron exhaust manifolds when the "air tubes" were not > required. Anyone know who that is...or where else they can be had? > > > > > > Has anyone simply closed the holes in the factory air tube "bolts"? > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ----- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your > inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL > :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:30:40 +0000 From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net Subject: Re: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs I haven't run into metric on an amc 360 Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Blair Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:11:35 To: john; local Jeep list Subject: RE: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs They are 15 mm in some and 9/16 fine in others. I think I still have non-air manifolds to put on my 304 (the 290 doesn't have them) I'll soon be parting the '76 shortbox (selling box with tailgate for $200) with J20 axles. Probably will put the axles under the Travelall (open knuckle is much nicer for steering!) > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:45:04 -0700 > From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net > To: preacherfuzz279-at-yahoo.com > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs > > tacoma screw or any other standard hardware supply should work, don't > remember the thread pitch... > have done this before... if I get time (unlikely for days) I can look at > the threads on the air setup, > have some hanging out in the shop... > > john > > JR McNeil wrote: > > I seem to remember that someone on this site was selling stainless? plugs to screw into FSJ iron exhaust manifolds when the "air tubes" were not required. Anyone know who that is...or where else they can be had? > > > > Has anyone simply closed the holes in the factory air tube "bolts"? > > > > > > > > -- > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:19:29 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs Sparkplugs are 14 mm Subject: Re: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:30:40 +0000 I haven't run into metric on an amc 360Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: Jim Blair Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:11:35 -0700To: john; local Jeep listSubject: RE: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs They are 15 mm in some and 9/16 fine in others. I think I still have non-air manifolds to put on my 304 (the 290 doesn't have them) I'll soon be parting the '76 shortbox (selling box with tailgate for $200) with J20 axles. Probably will put the axles under the Travelall (open knuckle is much nicer for steering!) > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:45:04 -0700 > From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net > To: preacherfuzz279-at-yahoo.com > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs > > tacoma screw or any other standard hardware supply should work, don't > remember the thread pitch... > have done this before... if I get time (unlikely for days) I can look at > the threads on the air setup, > have some hanging out in the shop... > > john > > JR McNeil wrote: > > I seem to remember that someone on this site was selling stainless? plugs to screw into FSJ iron exhaust manifolds when the "air tubes" were not required. Anyone know who that is...or where else they can be had? > > > > Has anyone simply closed the holes in the factory air tube "bolts"? > > > > > > > > -- > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. See how. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:42:18 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs we're not buying it Jim... AMC 360's never went metric... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, Jim Blair wrote: # They are 15 mm in some and 9/16 fine in others. I think I still have non-air # manifolds to put on my 304 (the 290 doesn't have them) # I'll soon be parting the '76 shortbox (selling box with tailgate for $200) # with J20 axles. Probably will put the axles under the Travelall (open knuckle # is much nicer for steering!) # # > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:45:04 -0700 # > From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net # > To: preacherfuzz279-at-yahoo.com # > CC: fsj-at-digest.net # > Subject: Re: fsj: Exhaust Manifold Plugs # > # > tacoma screw or any other standard hardware supply should work, don't # > remember the thread pitch... # > have done this before... if I get time (unlikely for days) I can look at # > the threads on the air setup, # > have some hanging out in the shop... # > # > john # > # > JR McNeil wrote: # > > I seem to remember that someone on this site was selling stainless? plugs # to screw into FSJ iron exhaust manifolds when the "air tubes" were not # required. Anyone know who that is...or where else they can be had? # > > # > > Has anyone simply closed the holes in the factory air tube "bolts"? # > > # > > # > > # > # > -- # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # _________________________________________________________________ # Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your # inbox. # http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL # :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 # ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3590 **************************