From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Jul 5 11:06:20 2010 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, July 5 2010 Volume 01 : Number 3598 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: Making a mess of tranny fluid fsj: very nice parking system FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 08:50:51 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Making a mess of tranny fluid I would make a tin "drain" that can sit on the diff and redirect the oil into the drain pan (speaking of, I need to empty my drain pan!) Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 - ---------------------------------------- > From: mbalea-at-hotmail.com > To: wallacem7-at-aol.com; fsj-digest-at-digest.net > Subject: RE: fsj: Making a mess of tranny fluid > Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 05:21:39 +0000 > > Reviving an old thread to take the mess out of a spill. > > I was contemplating the vacuum or suction method that appears on some of the > foreign car boards. Basically the same technique used to siphon oil from boat > engines. A big canister is equipped with a pump to create vacuum and a small > hose is inserted in the dipstick opening. It probably takes a while to drain 8 > quarts, but for our transmission with a large mouth dipstick, this seems like > the ideal solution for a price of $60ish..... could be used for the > differential as well. But beware that the tubes seem to be sensitive to heat, > some reports melting the tube, so a copper tubing could be better. > > Here we go, I do not own the model listed, but the forum was referenced after > a search for a vacuum method, this is an entertaining 7 page rant. > > http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=371807 > > I use an electrical vacuum pump to clean the bottom of the oil pan every other > oil change or when I feel like it after dumping a cup of MMO, it cleans the > suction hose and the remaining waste. > > In fact draining the oil pan out of the 85 is rather messy as the drain plug > is facing the front diff, what were they thinking of. > > Michel > 74 and 85 FSJs > >> To: fsj-digest-at-digest.net >> Subject: fsj: Making a mess of tranny fluid >> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 15:18:09 -0400 >> From: wallacem7-at-aol.com >> >> Drain the tranny before you even consider taking it out. One time, many > many >> years ago I decided that draining the tranny was 'too much work' so I > pulled >> the T-case and pulled the engine with the tranny. The tranny output shaft's >> seal is in the T-Case if I remember correctly and I made an enormous mess > of >> transmission fluid. No big deal right...just put down some speedy dry and >> continue to work. Only speedy dry, and tranny fluid in your shirt makes a > very >> itchy combination. I think I was changing my shirt three times a day during >> that little job. I reinstalled the trans with an aluminum deep finned pan > with >> a drain plug. Same goes for the T-case, drain that before it comes out as >> well. >> >> I need to service the trans on my Dakota right now and it still has the >> original tranny pan on it. I went to the Pep Boys to get a big oil drain > pain >> and they had a whole lot of nothing. I think I'll get one of the little >> concrete mixing tubs at the Home Despot or Lowes...more than big enough and >> then I can clean it up and mix cement in it later . They are polyethylene > so >> no chemicals (Diesel, gas, MEK, trannny fluid) should attack the plastic. >> >> You can pull a valve body with the trans in the truck...probably the > easiest >> way to do it. On the TF 727 access to some of the pan bolts is not great, > but >> it's easy enough to pull the crossmember and set the trans on a jackstand. > I'd >> put the whole Jeep on jackstands...if I remember correctly when you pull > the >> valve body you lose 'park' Changing the trans fluid and adjusting the bands > is >> something that needs to be done from time to time to get a long life out of >> the trans anyway. >> >> Mark Wallace >> 81 Wag > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. 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Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID2832 6::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 10:09:11 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: very nice parking system http://www.woehr.de/en/projekte/budapest_m730/index.htm - -- ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3598 **************************