From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Dec 28 11:36:03 2010 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Tuesday, December 28 2010 Volume 01 : Number 3669 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: not a WJ... Re: fsj: not a WJ... RE: [db] Re: fsj: Fwd: Mercedes OM617 diesel to Jeep Wrangler AX15 AX-15 NV3550 Adapter Kit Re: xj: RE: [db] Re: fsj: Fwd: Mercedes OM617 diesel to Jeep Wrangler AX15 AX-15 NV3550 Adapter Kit fsj: old car manuals, brochures, etc. fsj: climate and change FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 13:01:26 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: not a WJ... Nope. It's a WK of course! > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 12:18:17 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com > Subject: fsj: not a WJ... > > http://comics.com/henry_payne/2010-12-26/ > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 15:21:00 -0600 From: Dan Black Subject: Re: fsj: not a WJ... It could refer to any Grand Cherokee. I heard ten years ago that the Grand Cherokee cost less to build than the Dakota (yes, the pickup), but they charged ~$10K more, just because they could. On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 14:18, john wrote: > http://comics.com/henry_payne/2010-12-26/ > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 15:13:54 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: [db] Re: fsj: Fwd: Mercedes OM617 diesel to Jeep Wrangler AX15 AX-15 NV3550 Adapter Kit Your wife will hate the seats and ride of the Wrangler like mine. It hurt her back just getting in and out of an unlifted one recently. > Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 22:23:40 -0800 > From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net > To: bkc-benzlist2-at-dreamfire.com > CC: diesel-benz-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: [db] Re: fsj: Fwd: Mercedes OM617 diesel to Jeep Wrangler AX15 AX-15 NV3550 Adapter Kit > > that would be cool... but that company only makes it for the OM 617 and the > AX-15... > > I may give them a call, I'd rather use my 602.962... or yours (careful where you > park... ;) > > my son is talking about putting a 289 into his '85 300d... :) that's my OM617... > > been kind of looking at wranglers with hardtops... maybe I'll get lucky and find > a hardtop > with a/c, a DEAD 6 cylinder and 5 speed for cheap... > > Not sure yet if I want to go with a YJ or a TJ... leaf springs or coil > springs... square headlights or round... > > really it's driven by price... the coil springs and round headlights would be > my first choice... > > but beggars can't be choosers... > > > Had the front end aligned on my benz today, they had a list of parts I should > replace, left tie rod, etc... > here's the specs, and $30 tabs explained: > > http://fotomeister.us/2010/12-Dec-24-TomWalsh-fea300D-mac-30dollarTabs/ALL.ht ml > > On 12/24/2010 10:05 PM, Bruce Caruthers wrote: > > What about the really new ones, like the OM642 (high-end/AMG option for many models, and primary engine for the Sprinters, if I recall correctly)? > > > > -bkc > > Lynnwood, WA > > (his) '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] > > (hers) '92 Toyota Celica GT > > (ours) '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] > > > > > > On Fri Dec 24, 2010, John Meister wrote: > >> I believe VW made both... the Volvo was a 6 cylinder... the audi Diesel might > >> be ok, but still > >> uses a rubber band... I can look into them if you'd like... > >> > >> I know the Mercedes Diesels are all good, better with a turbo of course... steer > >> clear of the newer ones, after '95, > >> and also the 3.5L TD in the big SDLs... they'd oval cylinders. > >> > >> the 3.0L used in the '86-'89 or so puts out a lot of power, but if overheated > >> destroys the heads... > >> mileage isn't great... > >> > >> but the 2.5L TD I have in mine is absolutely superb... mine is a 602.962 > >> > >> the '87 3.0L is a 603.960 > >> > >> the one in my son's '85 is a 617.952 > >> the non-turbos are 617.012 > >> > >> > >> > >> On 12/24/2010 8:48 PM, Jim Blair wrote: > >>> The 5 cyl Audi diesel is supposed to only be second to Mercedes for > >>> reliability. The diesel Volvo made wasn't so hot. > >>> > >>>> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 19:40:11 -0800 > >>>> From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net > >>>> To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com > >>>> Subject: Re: fsj: Fwd: Mercedes OM617 diesel to Jeep Wrangler AX15 AX-15 > >>> NV3550 Adapter Kit > >>>> that's one of the worst Diesels you could use... the only one > >>>> worse is likely the early - mid '80's BMWs. > >>>> > >>>> john:wq > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 12/24/2010 6:11 PM, Jim Blair wrote: > >>>>> Just re-figured out that I can put an Audi/Volvo diesel in an XJ with AW4 > >>> by using the Volvo AW30-43 trans (I think that's what the diesel uses in RWD > >>> Volvos) > >>>>> On 12/24/2010 4:36 PM, dieseljohn-at-comcast.net wrote: > >>>>>> Wow. Guess I feel lucky. Napa had the oil pan for around $140, the oil > >>> almost cost as much, using amsoil 5w40 euro oil about $40 my costs. > >>>>>> Getting the fea done again on the 300d while I'm waiting for the pan to > >>> arrive at napa. > >>>>>> That e320 4matic has a worse curse that this jetta tdi it seems. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I found a conversion setup for jeeps using the om617 for less than $500! > >>> Thinking a nice hardtop wrangler or even an xj. Will sell the tdi to fund the > >>> project. Only thing I don't like is it requires the ax-15 manual trans, would > >>> prefer to use an AW4 auto. > >>>>>> John > > > > -- > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 23:25:07 +0000 From: john Subject: Re: xj: RE: [db] Re: fsj: Fwd: Mercedes OM617 diesel to Jeep Wrangler AX15 AX-15 NV3550 Adapter Kit My wife liked. The cj-10a. She doesn't like the jetta, hard to get in and out of. But you may be right on the ride. Someone who test drove the cj-10a said it rode much better than his yj. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Blair Sender: owner-xj-at-digest.net Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 15:13:54 To: ; Reply-To: xj-at-digest.netCc: ; Subject: xj: RE: [db] Re: fsj: Fwd: Mercedes OM617 diesel to Jeep Wrangler AX15 AX-15 NV3550 Adapter Kit Your wife will hate the seats and ride of the Wrangler like mine. It hurt her back just getting in and out of an unlifted one recently. > Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 22:23:40 -0800 > From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net > To: bkc-benzlist2-at-dreamfire.com > CC: diesel-benz-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: [db] Re: fsj: Fwd: Mercedes OM617 diesel to Jeep Wrangler AX15 AX-15 NV3550 Adapter Kit > > that would be cool... but that company only makes it for the OM 617 and the > AX-15... > > I may give them a call, I'd rather use my 602.962... or yours (careful where you > park... ;) > > my son is talking about putting a 289 into his '85 300d... :) that's my OM617... > > been kind of looking at wranglers with hardtops... maybe I'll get lucky and find > a hardtop > with a/c, a DEAD 6 cylinder and 5 speed for cheap... > > Not sure yet if I want to go with a YJ or a TJ... leaf springs or coil > springs... square headlights or round... > > really it's driven by price... the coil springs and round headlights would be > my first choice... > > but beggars can't be choosers... > > > Had the front end aligned on my benz today, they had a list of parts I should > replace, left tie rod, etc... > here's the specs, and $30 tabs explained: > > http://fotomeister.us/2010/12-Dec-24-TomWalsh-fea300D-mac-30dollarTabs/ALL.ht ml > > On 12/24/2010 10:05 PM, Bruce Caruthers wrote: > > What about the really new ones, like the OM642 (high-end/AMG option for many models, and primary engine for the Sprinters, if I recall correctly)? > > > > -bkc > > Lynnwood, WA > > (his) '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] > > (hers) '92 Toyota Celica GT > > (ours) '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] > > > > > > On Fri Dec 24, 2010, John Meister wrote: > >> I believe VW made both... the Volvo was a 6 cylinder... the audi Diesel might > >> be ok, but still > >> uses a rubber band... I can look into them if you'd like... > >> > >> I know the Mercedes Diesels are all good, better with a turbo of course... steer > >> clear of the newer ones, after '95, > >> and also the 3.5L TD in the big SDLs... they'd oval cylinders. > >> > >> the 3.0L used in the '86-'89 or so puts out a lot of power, but if overheated > >> destroys the heads... > >> mileage isn't great... > >> > >> but the 2.5L TD I have in mine is absolutely superb... mine is a 602.962 > >> > >> the '87 3.0L is a 603.960 > >> > >> the one in my son's '85 is a 617.952 > >> the non-turbos are 617.012 > >> > >> > >> > >> On 12/24/2010 8:48 PM, Jim Blair wrote: > >>> The 5 cyl Audi diesel is supposed to only be second to Mercedes for > >>> reliability. The diesel Volvo made wasn't so hot. > >>> > >>>> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 19:40:11 -0800 > >>>> From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net > >>>> To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com > >>>> Subject: Re: fsj: Fwd: Mercedes OM617 diesel to Jeep Wrangler AX15 AX-15 > >>> NV3550 Adapter Kit > >>>> that's one of the worst Diesels you could use... the only one > >>>> worse is likely the early - mid '80's BMWs. > >>>> > >>>> john:wq > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 12/24/2010 6:11 PM, Jim Blair wrote: > >>>>> Just re-figured out that I can put an Audi/Volvo diesel in an XJ with AW4 > >>> by using the Volvo AW30-43 trans (I think that's what the diesel uses in RWD > >>> Volvos) > >>>>> On 12/24/2010 4:36 PM, dieseljohn-at-comcast.net wrote: > >>>>>> Wow. Guess I feel lucky. Napa had the oil pan for around $140, the oil > >>> almost cost as much, using amsoil 5w40 euro oil about $40 my costs. > >>>>>> Getting the fea done again on the 300d while I'm waiting for the pan to > >>> arrive at napa. > >>>>>> That e320 4matic has a worse curse that this jetta tdi it seems. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I found a conversion setup for jeeps using the om617 for less than $500! > >>> Thinking a nice hardtop wrangler or even an xj. Will sell the tdi to fund the > >>> project. Only thing I don't like is it requires the ax-15 manual trans, would > >>> prefer to use an AW4 auto. > >>>>>> John > > > > -- > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:24:41 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: old car manuals, brochures, etc. where's the best place to sell old car ads, shop manuals, brochures and so on? I've tried selling some on ebay, but shipping is a hassle... are there like car swap meets where this stuff could be sold? or better, someone that would buy up the whole lot? john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 11:34:56 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: fsj: climate and change here's a good change: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFVfGD4NsfY&NR=1 and here's some good info on climate: http://rps3.com/Pages/Burt_Rutan_on_Climate_Change.htm ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3669 **************************