From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Wed Jan 12 20:14:50 2011 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Thursday, January 13 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3683 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: fsj: on swaps and custom configurations... Re: fsj: on swaps and custom configurations... RE: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD RE: fsj: on swaps and custom configurations... Re: xj: RE: fsj: on swaps and custom configurations... fsj: 4.7 engine tidbit FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:54:30 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: on swaps and custom configurations... I would like to try an AW4 behind the 4.7L to improve fuel economy. I know the 4.0L gets 2 mpg more in town and 5 on the highway than with the 42RE. # From: WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com [mailto:WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com] On Behalf # Of john # Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 2:33 PM # # # no manual trans for me... wife won't/can't, I'm not excited about # them, have a problem with my lower back... some cars are ok, the tdi seems # to be... my j10 was... but xj's kill me... # # have an extra AW4 laying around, can wire up manual switches to make it # work, have # no fear of electronics if I have a schematic/wiring diagram and good tech # notes. # # wouldn't it be cool if someone came up with a nice conversion kit to replace # the # 4.7L V8 with a Mercedes or VW Diesel that would just drop in, plug in a few # connectors # bolt on adapaters to the mounts and even use the stock flexplate/tc... # # ah yes, the daydreams... if only... # # john ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:05:38 +0000 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: on swaps and custom configurations... The 4.7 uses a 45rfe which does a much better job than the Aw4. The 4.0 uses the 42re. john at http://wagoneers.com - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Blair Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:54:30 To: john Meister; local Jeep list; xj Subject: RE: fsj: on swaps and custom configurations... I would like to try an AW4 behind the 4.7L to improve fuel economy. I know the 4.0L gets 2 mpg more in town and 5 on the highway than with the 42RE. # From: WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com [mailto:WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com] On Behalf # Of john # Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 2:33 PM # # # no manual trans for me... wife won't/can't, I'm not excited about # them, have a problem with my lower back... some cars are ok, the tdi seems # to be... my j10 was... but xj's kill me... # # have an extra AW4 laying around, can wire up manual switches to make it # work, have # no fear of electronics if I have a schematic/wiring diagram and good tech # notes. # # wouldn't it be cool if someone came up with a nice conversion kit to replace # the # 4.7L V8 with a Mercedes or VW Diesel that would just drop in, plug in a few # connectors # bolt on adapaters to the mounts and even use the stock flexplate/tc... # # ah yes, the daydreams... if only... # # john ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:19:17 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD 904 and 727 stopped having rear pumps somewhere around 1967. AFAIK, it is retrofit-table if you find the old cable shifted trans (I did it to a '68 727 for my Sport Fury with 383 Golden Commander) Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Subject: Re: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD If the automatic had a rear pump like a mercedes it could also be bump started. john at http://wagoneers.com - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Blair Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:51:22 To: ; ; xj; local Jeep list Subject: RE: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD At least it's a standard trans so you could put in 2nd or third and push start it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:21:37 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: on swaps and custom configurations... Strengthwise, yes, but it still uses the same high stall/low efficiency converter system. Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Subject: Re: fsj: on swaps and custom configurations... > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net > From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:05:38 +0000 > > The 4.7 uses a 45rfe which does a much better job than the Aw4. > > The 4.0 uses the 42re. > john at http://wagoneers.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Blair > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:54:30 > To: john Meister; local Jeep list; xj > Subject: RE: fsj: on swaps and custom configurations... > > > I would like to try an AW4 behind the 4.7L to improve fuel economy. I know the 4.0L gets 2 mpg more in town and 5 on the highway than with the 42RE. > > > > # From: WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com [mailto:WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > # Of john > # Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 2:33 PM > # > # > # no manual trans for me... wife won't/can't, I'm not excited about > # them, have a problem with my lower back... some cars are ok, the tdi seems > # to be... my j10 was... but xj's kill me... > # > # have an extra AW4 laying around, can wire up manual switches to make it > # work, have > # no fear of electronics if I have a schematic/wiring diagram and good tech > # notes. > # > # wouldn't it be cool if someone came up with a nice conversion kit to replace > # the > # 4.7L V8 with a Mercedes or VW Diesel that would just drop in, plug in a few > # connectors > # bolt on adapaters to the mounts and even use the stock flexplate/tc... > # > # ah yes, the daydreams... if only... > # > # john ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:07:59 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: xj: RE: fsj: on swaps and custom configurations... must be? :) I thought you knew me better than that... :) I'm mainly interested in seeing just how bad this is... by bringing my son into the mix I won't feel as guilty saying no... and the seller does have some WVO goodies to sell separately... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Jim Blair wrote: # You must be crazy trying to talk your son into a vehicle that requires more # maintenance than a regular Jeep! I definitely agree with using mostly stock # stuff (adapters are too expen$ive!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:58:31 -0800 (PST) From: JeepNut Subject: fsj: 4.7 engine tidbit John it's the 4.7 you like so much right? ... no wonder...if you can believe what you read in a thread on a forum it sounds more Jeep than Chrysler... http://www.dakota-durango.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12313 JeepNut - ---------------------------------------------------------- '92 Cherokee Laredo, bought new, an heirloom. Passed to one of the grandkids in 2009 -at- 270K miles.... '04 Grand Cherokee Laredo. Bone stock. It's hers. '87 Street Comanche #24/100. In storage. 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