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fsj-digest Wednesday, December 22 1999 Volume 01 : Number 660
Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps
Brian Colucci <versicom-at-juno.com>
Digest Coordinator
Contents:
fsj: guess what I found...
fsj: Re: guess what I found...
fsj: Parts For Sale in Portland
fsj: Original 1949 Jeep manuals
Re: fsj: New Seats for the J20
fsj: the Last Wagoneer and the Jerrari
Re: fsj: the Last Wagoneer and the Jerrari
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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:38:17 -0800
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: guess what I found...
A good friend of mine totalled his 85 Vette this morning... (he's ok)
350 cu in, multipoint fuel injection 375 hp, 6 speed automatic.... 25mpg...
We figure the insurance company will ask about $1,500 for him to buy it
back... if they do, I'm first in line to buy it from him... (someone pulled
out in front of him on the highway (9) and stopped... he had no where to
go, locked
'em up (he was doing 40 in a 45) and said he watched parts fly all over the
place... the state police ticketed the other guy...)
I'm thinking of wow... this is a silk smooth and efficient powerhouse
that will fit nicely in my 83 Stepside, my 88 wagoneer limited or Fritz,
my 81 300d... (not to mention that it'd also fit in my son's 67 J3000, like
I'm gonna turn a teenager loose with a Vette motor powered FSJ... :) besides,
he doesn't have any money... and his 327 is running good. :)
Anyways... What should I do? :)
a) walk away from the excitement and save money and time
b) turn Fritz into a silky smooth sleeper and improve his fuel economy
c) pep up the little wagoneer a bit
d) make my Stepside a serious system
or ????
Technical concerns: transfer case that'll use the Vette 6 speed?
(satellite?)
will the Benz rear axle take the stress?
will my wife drive it?
will these temptations never cease? :)
While for the most part I lead a somewhat boring and tame life, it does
have it's moments... :) (Mostly in going through the paper design of
crazy ideas like this... I've done a couple hare brained ideas like this
before, made them work and then moved onto another one... as I get older
and wiser I tend to figure them out and talk about 'em... it's safer, cheaper
and just as educational. :)
Seriously, does anyone know much about that tranny? Will it mate to any
GM xfr cases? NPXXX?? This would be a nice motor for my Stepside... and since
it's not actively being driven it's a perfect candidate... Would be a really
sweet setup too... I suppose I could sell that 6 speed tranny and setup
a 700R4 (or more current version) with an NP242 for full time FULL size fun.
Reality is this though... I've been trying to find time (and motivation) to
go out in the cold, damp, dark, dirty, dingy dirt floored carport to wire
up the tach and stereo to take it back and retest the emissions... :) It
hasn't moved from it's resting spot for over a week... (ok, I don't NEED
the stereo hooked up and it is running... but hey, I've got a used Kenwood
to install first... want to do it right... :)
I guess I should offer this opportunity up to someone else more deserving...
I need concrete and a closed in shop more than I need a Vette powered
anything. :)
Now, if the insurance company says he can buy it back for less than a grand
I'm soon to be a grand poorer... :) A fuel injected V8 is way too tempting
for the likes of me... 'specially when it comes with the wiring harness... :)
Someone pray for me, ok... ;) (anyone got a current tally of ongoing
projects?
someone needs to come over here and help me prioritize a few things... :)
Speaking of which, anyone up to getting together over the holiday break for
a Latte and a tour of the Classic Car store in Snohomish? Kind of a Jeep/Benz
whatever Fest? It'll give me motivation to get my Stepside out of the
carport... :)
thinking as I review this note... that engine would be awesome in the Benz...
I'm sure the 123 Chassis could handle the power... man would that be
awesome...
5.7L of highly tuned engine... I'd leave the 300D emblem in the rear too...
with the word DIESEL still on the trunk lid... (I had a sticker on the back
of my 3.8L Chevy Luv that read: I may be slow, but I'm ahead of you :)
Funny thing is no one ever passed me...
ttyl,
john
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john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com
Snohomish, WA, where Jeeps don't rust, they mold...
Real FREEDOM comes through knowing Jesus
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Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:24:15 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at-wagoneers.com>
Subject: fsj: Re: guess what I found...
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Tacoma White wrote:
>-->> A good friend of mine totalled his 85 Vette this morning... (he's ok)
>-->> 350 cu in, multipoint fuel injection 375 hp, 6 speed automatic....
>-->25mpg...
>-->
>-->> Anyways... What should I do? :)
>-->> a) walk away from the excitement and save money and time
>-->> I guess I should offer this opportunity up to someone else more
>-->deserving...
>-->> I need concrete and a closed in shop more than I need a Vette powered
>-->> anything. :)
>-->
>--> uuuuuuuugghghghhhhh I think you should uhmmm reconsider heheh...
>-->Gee, that thing would fit PERFECTLY with my sm465/np205 and Painless Wiring
>--> GM EFI-compatible brand new wiring harness that are going into the
>-->Kaiser... hmmmmmmm uhmm yeah, why don't you just leave that thing right
>-->alone hahaha.....
>--> and while I'm at it, may I say: Ford motors just suck... ok, they're ok,
>-->but the way they go together/mount/etc is just plain jacked. STUDS on the
>-->torque converter-- who do I shoot for that brilliant plan? Maybe there is
>-->some performance benefit, but it's a real PITA for installation. Same with
>-->the screwy thru-bolt mounts.
>-->AMC had things right, too bad I can't easily put a 205 behind one...
>-->--Tacoma
what, you having trouble with "better ideas"? :)
I really liked the fords I've owned... but found that they
kept changing stuff... gm seems to have done a better job
of standardizing... and they also seem more efficient...
375hp Stepside? 375hp 300D?
(I have eliminated the little wagoneer from the thought process... :)
I'm leaning heavily toward the stepside...
john
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john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com
don't leave life without Jesus, please...
Snohomish, Washington USA
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Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:59:11 -0800
From: Whit <bigdog-at-netdog.com>
Subject: fsj: Parts For Sale in Portland
For Sale (in Portland):
AMC 304 Motor - $50
TH 400 (AMC Housing) - $50
QT Transfer Case - $50
Radiator $20
Driveshafts (77 Wagoneer) - $10 ea.
Steering Box - $10
Superlift 4" (front springs, rear block, rear add-a-leaf) - $100
Whit
Whit
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Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:02:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair)
Subject: fsj: Original 1949 Jeep manuals
I had these passed to me from a friend of mine.
FWD: From: Karl Kurz <kkurz-at-acad.umm.maine.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.autos.classic-trucks
I have for sale two Jeep goodies:
1948 first edition Wills-Overland Owners Manual Model CJ-3a
1949 Willy's-Overland Flat Rate Manual for models
CJ-3A,4-63,2-WD,4-WD,6-63,4x4-63,VJ-2,VJ-3 and VJS-A
Both are complete with lots of illustrations...8x6"...the
Flat rate is a little used, the OM is very clean.
$200 PP for the pair
Karl K. Kurz, N1JZY
POB 352, Machiasport
Maine, USA, 04655
207-255-8802
=A0=A0"Every citizen has the right to keep and bear arms and this right
shall never be questioned." Article 16, Maine State Constitution
=A0=A0"Politicians and diapers have one thing in common, they both
should be changed regularly and for the same reason."
Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee model 18 4.2L/999 AT, My Homepage:
http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html My Photo Album:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfalse
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Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 16:01:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair)
Subject: Re: fsj: New Seats for the J20
A: Do you have them on pedestals? I stil have a FREE passenger seat (low
back non-tilt plain jane) to give away!
Whit wrote:
I found a set of leather seats for my J20 but after putting them in, the
cockpit is pretty tight. The seats are high back power units from an 87
Wagoneer. Will any of the non-bench style seats buy me any more room?
Even if I take the headrests off, it doesn't help.
Whit
Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee model 18 4.2L/999 AT, My Homepage:
http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html My Photo Album:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false
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Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:39:15 -0500
From: Michael Baxter <MBaxter-at-compuserve.com>
Subject: fsj: the Last Wagoneer and the Jerrari
Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) writes:
>> With all the road work going on there, they wouldn't get far! (Wonder
how much they used at Harold's?)
<<
>> I wonder if they just moved it because of the explosion at Harold's?
The driver said "Now there's something you don't see everyday. A Jerrari!=
"
<<
The last time John and I saw the Jerrari it was sitting inside one of
the three display halls in a display with light colored 1" or so gravel
under the tires. There are no windows in the halls. Just at the ends of t=
he
"streets" which connect the halls. So things have changed. Plus, I would
think Harolds was too far away for the museum to be worried. Across the
river, 1 block up and two blocks over.
There is some FSJ history here. Harrah's bought Harolds and will be
expanding where Harold's used to stand. Bill Harrah (long deceased) was
responsible for the Jerrari. He also amassed the largest car collection i=
n
the world. Totally over 1500 if I remember correctly. Only ~250 from the
original collection are left today and they are in the National Automobil=
e
Museum here. The Jerrari being one of them.
I was lucky enough to see the whole collection many times while I
was growing-up. It was located here in Sparks (sister city) in three
huge warehouses.
That was the 1st time explosives have been used to demolish a building he=
re
in Reno. Guess I live the "big city" now.
Michael Baxter, MBaxter-at-Compuserve.com-OR-N7OVD-at-arrl.net
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter
From Reno, NV USA on 21-Dec-1999
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 00:52:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair)
Subject: Re: fsj: the Last Wagoneer and the Jerrari
A: The driver said the Jerrari was in Harrahs, which was right next to
Harold's, and that the last Wagoneer was in the museum. All I saw was a
bit of red as we went by. I didn't go in to see it.
Michael Baxter wrote:
=A0=A0The last time John and I saw the Jerrari it was sitting inside one
of the three display halls in a display with light colored 1" or so
gravel under the tires. There are no windows in the halls. Just at the
ends of the "streets" which connect the halls. So things have changed.
Plus, I would think Harolds was too far away for the museum to be
worried. Across the river, 1 block up and two blocks over.
There is some FSJ history here. Harrah's bought Harolds and will be
expanding where Harold's used to stand. Bill Harrah (long deceased) was
responsible for the Jerrari. He also amassed the largest car collection
in the world. Totally over 1500 if I remember correctly. Only ~250 from
the original collection are left today and they are in the National
Automobile Museum here. The Jerrari being one of them.
I was lucky enough to see the whole collection many times while I was
growing-up. It was located here in Sparks (sister city) in three huge
warehouses.
That was the 1st time explosives have been used to demolish a building
here in Reno. Guess I live the "big city" now.
Jim Blair, Seattle WA 1983 Cherokee model 18 4.2L/999 AT, My Homepage:
http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html My Photo Album:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfalse
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