From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Apr 8 10:23:46 2000 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Saturday, April 8 2000 Volume 01 : Number 808 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: a carnuck fan club member... rofl... fsj: Re: QT chain width Re: fsj: a carnuck fan club member... rofl... fsj: Re: sticker Re: fsj: a carnuck fan club member... rofl... Re: [fsj: Latin help...] Re: [fsj: Latin help...] Re: [fsj: Latin help...] fsj: Re: The "We Hate Off-Highway Vehicles" Conference Re: fsj: Re: The "We Hate Off-Highway Vehicles" Conference fsj: superdawg's takin' up smokin' Re: [fsj: Re: sticker] fsj: transmissions... fsj: O/D auto and 401 cranks Re: fsj: transmissions... FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 19:55:22 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: a carnuck fan club member... rofl... >Subject: Mumbo Jumbo=20 >>And On The 6th Day YOU Wrote : >carnuck=A0=A0 Date: Thu=A0Apr=A06,=A02000=A01:44am >Subject: Re: re: Sticker / Decal=20 >>A: We will have to redo it, since onelist >is no more! My homepage on >>go.com is free and it's covered by >Disney!< >::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: >Apparently 'answering' Unkle Munky who had written : > >>Yes, the "sticker" discussion was in=20 >>reference to John's site, and such! >>It got a bit of discussion going on the >ideas we've tossed around here >>too! Maybe it's time we get going on two >issues then:< >::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: >Carnuck , Oh Magnficent and Omnipotent One.=20 >If I may be so bold as to inquire. >Since I didnt receive my "Secret Decoder Ring" when I joined this soap >box... >Perhaps you could be so kind as to inform me as to exactly (in English >please) WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT this time.??{;~) > >+++ D'drummer +++ How come I've never been able to type it so well? ;) We love you jimmy b, but sometimes your messages come through rather garbled... you might consider getting a real computer and a real isp.... I thought this message was funny... (I've been lurking on the "new" list... nice format... a bunch of interesting characters out there fo' sure... ;) john - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:21:22 PDT From: "michel balea" Subject: fsj: Re: QT chain width 68 mm from rivet to rivet head, or about 1/16 less than 2 3/4... for those using the standard system.... How do i know... i have a spare Michel 74 wag ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:35:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: a carnuck fan club member... rofl... A: All that funky stuff is Distant drummer's doing. I just straight forward write my stuff like always. Can't afford a Puter for awhile John forwarded: And On The 6th Day YOU Wrote : carnuck=A0=A0 Date: Thu=A0Apr=A06,=A02000=A01:44am Subject: Re: re: Sticker / Decal A: We will have to redo it, since onelist >is no more! My homepage on go.com is free and it's covered by >Disney!< :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Apparently 'answering' Unkle Munky who had written : Yes, the "sticker" discussion was in reference to John's site, and such! It got a bit of discussion going on the >ideas we've tossed around here too! Maybe it's time we get going on two >issues then:< :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Carnuck , Oh Magnficent and Omnipotent One. If I may be so bold as to inquire. Since I didnt receive my "Secret Decoder Ring" when I joined this soap box... Perhaps you could be so kind as to inform me as to exactly (in English please) WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT this time.??{;~) +++ D'drummer +++ How come I've never been able to type it so well? ;) We love you jimmy b, but sometimes your messages come through rather garbled... =A0 you might consider getting a real computer and a real isp.... I thought this message was funny... (I've been lurking on the "new" list... nice format... a bunch of interesting characters out there fo' sure... ;) john ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JimBlair, Seattle,WA 1983 4.2L Chero 4dr http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html Now appearing on allexperts.com Pics: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfalse ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:08:25 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: Re: sticker I'm working on doing the art for the next run and want to update the web address to point to my new server. I created the image below to be used as a link from the french cherokee site. :) Just seeing if it was to anyone's liking. :) I guess I'll leave the URL down in the lower left. BTW, the virtual-cafe address will still get you to my site. One other idea was to put the FSJ diamond to the left and the words FULL SIZE JEEP stacked to the right side... I've also got some other cool FSJ art that a friend and I have been playing with... not suitable for sticker, but very cool wallpaper on the pc... I'm swamped with projects right now... just got home at midnight from swapping the rear axle shaft out of the little wagoneer... the other one was bent... john At 02:28 AM 4/7/00 EDT, Brazzadog-at-aol.com wrote: > > Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:05:03 -0700 >> From: john >(snip) >> Would a sticker with my server address across the face still be as cool? : >> see the image at: http://wagoneers.com/fsj-link.jpg > >I like it better the old way. > >Seems to me the web address doesn't need to be that visible. Nobody's gonna >see it on a drive-by anyway. If that's what you're after then I think you >need a windshield banner. > >What makes it work is people see the cool sticker on the cool rig and want to >talk about it. Then the owner can say "yeah, there's a web site" and read it >off the sticker if they can't remember. 'Course I have the old sticker with >the "virtual cafe" address that I can't remember. Admittedly, the new one is >more memorable. Gee, can you tell I'm speaking from experience here? > >Ben Williams >'71 Wagoneer >'78 F-250 4x4 > - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:09:00 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: fsj: a carnuck fan club member... rofl... yeah, but can't you trim some of the extra junk below (left in for effect... ;) john At 11:35 PM 4/6/00 -0700, James Blair wrote: >A: All that funky stuff is Distant drummer's doing. I just straight >forward write my stuff like always. Can't afford a Puter for awhile > >John forwarded: >And On The 6th Day YOU Wrote :=20 >carnuck=A0=A0 Date: Thu=A0Apr=A06,=A02000=A01:44am >Subject: Re: re: Sticker / Decal=20 >A: We will have to redo it, since onelist >is no more! My homepage on=20 >go.com is free and it's covered by >Disney!<=20 >::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::=20 >Apparently 'answering' Unkle Munky who had written :=20 >Yes, the "sticker" discussion was in >reference to John's site, and such!=20 >It got a bit of discussion going on the >ideas we've tossed around here >too! Maybe it's time we get going on two >issues then:<=20 >::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::=20 >Carnuck , Oh Magnficent and Omnipotent One. If I may be so bold as to >inquire.=20 >Since I didnt receive my "Secret Decoder Ring" when I joined this soap >box...=20 >Perhaps you could be so kind as to inform me as to exactly (in English >please) WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT this time.??{;~)=20 >+++ D'drummer +++=20 >How come I've never been able to type it so well? ;)=20 >We love you jimmy b, but sometimes your messages come through rather >garbled... =A0 you might consider getting a real computer and a real >isp....=20 >I thought this message was funny... (I've been lurking on the "new" >list... nice format... a bunch of interesting characters out there fo' >sure... ;)=20 >john=20 > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JimBlair, Seattle,WA 1983 4.2L Chero 4dr >http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html Now appearing on >allexperts.com Pics:=20 >http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfalse=20 >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 6 Apr 00 17:18:55 MDT From: Michael Shimniok Subject: Re: [fsj: Latin help...] john wrote: > veni, vidi, vici (not sure if I spelled the last one correctly) > which means: I came, I saw, I conquered. > = > Well, I'd like to create a couple of sayings in Latin like this: > I came, I saw, I ate > I came, I saw, I wheeled. My girlfriend, Amy, a latin major in college, had the following to offer:= veni, vidi, provolvi -- I came, I saw, I rolled (forward or) over (it= ) She also offered veni, vidi, traxi -- I came, I saw, I pulled (a hapless baby jeep off an obstacle?) And finally, veni, vidi, comedi -- I cam, I saw, I ate. Hope this helps! Michael - --- Michael E. Shimniok - KC0EKI - Michael.Shimniok-at-usa.net "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." - H. L. Menken ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:22:40 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: [fsj: Latin help...] thanx... :) john At 05:18 PM 4/6/00 MDT, Michael Shimniok wrote: >john wrote: >> veni, vidi, vici (not sure if I spelled the last one correctly) >> which means: I came, I saw, I conquered. >> >> Well, I'd like to create a couple of sayings in Latin like this: >> I came, I saw, I ate >> I came, I saw, I wheeled. > >My girlfriend, Amy, a latin major in college, had the following to offer: > > veni, vidi, provolvi -- I came, I saw, I rolled (forward or) over (it) > >She also offered > > veni, vidi, traxi -- I came, I saw, I pulled (a hapless baby jeep > off an obstacle?) > >And finally, > > veni, vidi, comedi -- I cam, I saw, I ate. > >Hope this helps! > >Michael > >--- >Michael E. Shimniok - KC0EKI - Michael.Shimniok-at-usa.net > "For every complex problem, there is a solution that > is simple, neat, and wrong." - H. L. Menken > >____________________________________________________________________ >Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:37:50 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: [fsj: Latin help...] Ok, we've come up with two possibilities... although one is from someone's memory, the other from a recent scholar ("new" latin?... rofl..) Is this first form a variation and still correct or totally incorrect? > I came, I saw, I ate That would be: "Veni, vidi, edi". > veni, vidi, provolvi -- I came, I saw, I rolled (forward or) over (it) > veni, vidi, traxi -- I came, I saw, I pulled (a hapless baby jeep > off an obstacle?) >And finally, > veni, vidi, comedi -- I cam, I saw, I ate. since comedi and edi look to be the same form, the first one may not be conjugated properly... Could she provide the various forms of the verb to eat? (I eat, you eat, and so on... ;) More for a refresher course... let's see I had two years of latin... most likely before you were born... ;) 1972 or 1973... or was it 71?? ;) Oh, here's another phrase I like: crede ut intelligentia (probably the wrong form. :) john ============================================================= The just shall live by Faith... Der Gerechte wird aus Glauben leben... Mas El Justo vivira Por Fe... Le Juste vivra par la foi... Habakkuk 2:4b, Romans 1:17, Galatians 3:11, Hebrews 10:38 ============================================================= john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com/LivingByFaith/ http://www.wagoneers.com/BIBLE ============================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:22:28 EDT From: OrigamiTB-at-aol.com Subject: fsj: Re: The "We Hate Off-Highway Vehicles" Conference In Brian's latest alert, dated 4/6/00 8:35:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, snowmobiler Mel Wolf wrote: > If you would like to see a full agenda, visit > http://www.wilderness.org/standbylands/orv/conference040700.htm I see reference to "Snowmobiles, Personal Watercraft, Summer Terrestrial Vehicles (ATVs, motorcycles, etc.)", but nothing about anything else. It looks like the snowmo's, bikers, and jetskiers have pissed off the hikers and boaters; duh! > I just know you will love what you see. And you can register on-line. > Maybe with a phony name??? Yeah, then we can be sociopathic whackos, too. No, thanks. ++ Cornel Ormsby ++ staying in the FSJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:20:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: Re: The "We Hate Off-Highway Vehicles" Conference A: Don't forget that our Jeeps will be painted with "guilt by association" for just having 4 wheel drive. I had some woman bitch me out the other day because I had my wife's Jeep parked ON MY LAWN! I even received a love letter from the city of Seattle about it. In Brian's latest alert, dated 4/6/00 8:35:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, snowmobiler Mel Wolf wrote: If you would like to see a full agenda, visit http://www.wilderness.org/standbylands/orv/conference040700.htm I see reference to "Snowmobiles, Personal Watercraft, Summer Terrestrial Vehicles (ATVs, motorcycles, etc.)", but nothing about anything else. It looks like the snowmo's, bikers, and jetskiers have pissed off the hikers and boaters; duh! I just know you will love what you see. And you can register on-line. Maybe with a phony name??? Yeah, then we can be sociopathic whackos, too. No, thanks. ++ Cornel Ormsby ++ =A0staying in the FSJ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JimBlair, Seattle,WA 1983 4.2L Chero 4dr http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html Now appearing on allexperts.com Pics: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=3D13998&Auth=3Dfalse ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:02:18 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: superdawg's takin' up smokin' not sure if he's been puffing for a while or this is a new habit, could just be that the sun was out and I noticed it... ;) when upshifting I noticed a blue puff out the tailpipe... did it several times... also if I decelerated while in gear and then nailed it, got a blue puff. what is that? valves? valve seals? Oil consumption hasn't been an issue. I'm using AMSOIL 20w50 racing oil and haven't lost any yet... I'm not worried about it, he's only got 132k on him... and if he breaks, well, time for my 4.0L. john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com **** http://wagoneers.com don't leave life without Jesus, please... Snohomish, Washington USA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 7 Apr 00 14:51:48 MDT From: Michael Shimniok Subject: Re: [fsj: Re: sticker] john wrote: > One other idea was to put the FSJ diamond to the left and > the words FULL SIZE JEEP stacked to the right side... That might be kinda cool. Or do "Full Size Jeeps" all at the top (if it'= ll fit) and the web address prominently at the bottom...? Michael - --- Michael E. Shimniok - KC0EKI - Michael.Shimniok-at-usa.net "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." - H. L. Menken ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 00:05:19 -0700 From: john Subject: fsj: transmissions... Paul is over and we're chatting transmissions with my son about his 67 J3000, so I opened up the Factory Shop manual... it sez: T-15A was used with all V8 350s, the T85 was used with all V8 327s, the 6-232's used T-14a and T-15a cool info... and here I was thinking T-90s. (Someone on one of the lists corrected me and said it was a t-15, we'll it wasn't... ;) So it's a T-85. :) john - ----------------------------------------------------- john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com ...don't leave life without Jesus, please! Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 09:11:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: fsj: O/D auto and 401 cranks A couple things. First, I have an AW4 (A340 chryco) for Blackie! YES!!! I scooped both it and a NV242 for $600 with TCU. Elmo is jealous I think, but it'll have to wait till I get the other frame all set up, and an AW4 with 4.0L to go into it. (I missed getting the whole setup by 24 hours! :^( ) And here's the 401 stuff from the AMC-list. FWD: From: "Jack Brigham, II" Subject: 401 crank for stroker 360 You can order a reconditioned 401 crankshaft complete with bearings from my Wrenchhead site. http://www.wrenchead.com/wh_mem/default_af.asp?affiliateid=00269926660626558802&befree=befree_com Jack ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JimBlair, Seattle,WA 1983 4.2L Chero 4dr http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html Now appearing on allexperts.com Pics: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 10:10:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Carnuck-at-webtv.net (James Blair) Subject: Re: fsj: transmissions... A: The little Rambler I had was a T80. I have a 3 speed Saginaw from a 1 ton Chev with 11" clutch sitting here too if anyone is interested. John wrote: Paul is over and we're chatting transmissions with my son about his 67 J3000, so I opened up the Factory Shop manual... it sez: T-15A was used with all V8 350s, the T85 was used with all V8 327s, the 6-232's used T-14a and T-15a cool info... and here I was thinking T-90s. (Someone on one of the lists corrected me and said it was a t-15, we'll it wasn't... ;) So it's a T-85. :) john ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JimBlair, Seattle,WA 1983 4.2L Chero 4dr http://homepages.go.com/~carnuck/carnuck.html Now appearing on allexperts.com Pics: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=13998&Auth=false ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #808 *************************