From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Fri May 20 21:47:45 2011 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Saturday, May 21 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3722 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list fsj: road trip: 4,430 miles - averaged 45 mpg FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 06:15:04 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: fsj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. Persons who read the list via email are automatically members, but readers of the FTP archive are not, and need to contact me (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) and get your name added to the list of "permitted senders". b) has your email address changed? some of you have had changes in your email address. your old address still works, and is still on the list, but your From: line shows a new address. this can happen for various reasons; you may have changed jobs or ISPs, and left a forward in place, or your IT staff may have fiddled with the email system. you will need to unsubscribe your old email address and subscribe the new one. this may require my involvement, if you can't figure out a way to get your old address off the list using the conventional majordomo commands. you can use the majordomo "which" command to probe for old addresses. send a message to majordomo-at-digest.net with one or more which commands in the body, one per line. to check for potential addresses for Fred Flinstone, formerly of bedrock.org, the following commands can be sent: which flintstone which bedrock note that the matches above might return any of the following addresses, if they appear in the list (in other words, you can use vagueness and incompleteness in your recollection as a tool): Fred.Flinstone-at-bedrock.org fflinstone-at-wilma.bedrock.org flintstonef-at-bedrock.com c) do you have more than one email address? if so, only the subscribed addresses can post, unless you contact me (see 1.a) above for relevant information) d) are you using (intentionally or accidentially) special "features" of your mail client? [this section is no longer operative, as the demime software now strips html, attachments, rich text format, etc. from postings automatically.] e) are your posts too large? there is a 10,000 character limit on posting sizes; this is done for various reasons. you can always split up large postings to get mail through. f) are you including majordomo commands at the start of your message? administrivia control is turned on; this is a trap for things like "unsubscribe" at the start of a message. try to avoid obvious majordomo commands in the subject and the first 10 lines, or misspell them in obvious ways (e.g. unzubscribe, 1ndex, h3lp, g3t, etc.) g) are you triggering spam traps? some things are red flags; for example, many phrases found commonly in spam are automatically blocked. h) are you using "funky" character sets? [7 bit restriction lifted experimentally on 8/2/00 -- film at 11] unfortunately, there are "issues" if i permit any character set other than old fashioned 7 level ASCII; therefore, you need to avoid national character sets that include various accents, umlauts, national currency characters such as the British pound symbol, etc. i) are you unintentionally including complete digests in your reply? You need to check and make sure you cut down replys to the minimal size; digests are between 20,000 and 25,000 characters in length, and if you include a complete digest in your reply, it clearly won't make the 10,000 character limit. By the way, this feature is intentional. j) Are you using a "bad" ISP or mail relay? See http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html for more information about Digest.Net policies about email. k) Is the error message you get back "User Unknown"? If so, you may be running afoul of spam control severices (again, see http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html) When these services register a hit, the error code 550 is returned. 550 is a generic code that many broken mail systems report as "user unknown". The "rejectlog" entries for the previous day's mail traffic on digest.net may be viewed at http://www.digest.net/rejectlog.01 Some of you may find it useful or instructive to use the telnet program to connect directly to port 25 on krusty-motorsports.com and see what kind of reply you get; this requires some technical knowledge and is not for everyone (you can get out of this at anytime after the initial banner simply by typing quit and hitting enter.) l) Is SMTP over TLS involved? This is a bit esoteric, but as of 8/8/01 the digest.net mail server will attempt to use "TLS" (Transport Layer Security) for outbound mail if the destination mail server offers it. SMTP over TLS is fairly new technology, and a bit buggy. I am monitoring the logs on the server, and when I see TLS related problems, I manually place the problem destinations on a special exception list; however, this may delay email to the destination host until I make the exception. 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? a) are you using the right address? send to majordomo-at-digest.net, and the command format is unsubscribe list-name my-email-address b) has your email address changed? majordomo has no way of knowing that Fred.Flinstone-at-BarneyCo.com was once fflintstone-at-bedrock.org. you can check this with the which command (see 1.b) above for details) 3. How do I post to the list? You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw-at-digest.net or bmw-digest-at-digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 21:46:39 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: road trip: 4,430 miles - averaged 45 mpg road trip summary: 10 days - objective - family reunion in the Chicago area 4,430 miles 99.5 gallons of Diesel used 45 mpg average best mpg: today 62.88 mpg worst mpg: 2nd day 40.11 mpg (speeds at 75 mph or higher) lowest Diesel price $3.98/gal (SD) highest Diesel price $4.33/gal (WA) just got home, 10 day road trip - Seattle to Chicago and back... family reunion was on the 15th... :) No close calls, no disasters, no repairs... weather in Chicago was a perfect Seattle winter day. :) This last tank saw 62.88 mpg! Our speed was under 60 mph most of the time, with about 80 miles at just at or under 70 mph on I-90, but there wasn't any wind and I wasn't driving hard. May have been a slight tail wind coming out of Spokane, very pleasant weather, it was the calmest day of driving so far. Also a lot of long down hill grades where I didn't touch the go pedal, which means NO fuel was being used. Overall average for the entire trip was 45 mpg. Used about 99.5 gallons to go the 4,430 miles. Average price $4.13/gal lowest: $3.98 in SD, highest $4.33 here Speed made a big difference in economy... My worst mileage was 40 mpg and done at mostly 75 mph plus, with about 250 miles of two lane mountain highway posted at 70mph with some passing of trucks up long grades where I hit 80 or 90... and it rained... and then the fuel light came on... it was dark, and it rained harder and there were no city lights, no towns and we were on an Indian reservation with little or no cell signal... but we managed to make it into Belle Fourche, SD to find at that point the lowest price Diesel at $4.12/gal. What gets me is that in the middle of absolutely no where, kind of smack dab in the middle of North and South Dakota, I could buy Diesel for $3.98/gal! Here I am less than an hour from a refinery and I just paid $4.33/gal, mostly because of the liberal's extra 50 cents tax on Diesel fuel in this state. After about the 2nd day our backs finally adjusted to the Jetta and by today we were ready to head out for another 8 days... knowing that if I keep my speed down to 60 mph that I can break 60 mpg is pretty cool. 62.88 mpg... even if I could have forced more fuel in the tank it still would have been over 55 mpg easily... I burped it and it was sloshing out... (there's a toggle inside the filler on the TDI that "burps" the tank)... I'm having trouble believing it too, but even my wife admits I was driving gentle all day and we kept our speed down the whole day. Our trip objective was the family reunion north of Chicago... We headed out I-90 through WA, ID, MT, stopped in Missoula the 1st night, 2nd day I-90 through Billings to Custer's last stand, then off east through several Indian reservations, across the corner of WY and into SD. 3rd day we were in Spearfish visiting my brother in law and then drove to Mitchell, SD. 4th day we left Mitchell, drove across SD, MN and down through WI into Elgin, IL. 5th day we were in the Chicago/Crystal Lake/McHenry area driving all over taking pictures of where I grew up... or the places where I frequented when I was younger. ;) 6th day was the family reunion, met my half brother and some other relatives I hadn't seen in 45+ years. 7th day we left Elgin, drove down to IA and across and then up into SD, stayed in Sioux Falls, SD. 8th day we drove up to Redfield, SD to visit my sister in law. 9th day we took headed up to US 12 in Aberdeen and headed west across SD, ND and into MT until we hit Billings. 9th day we drove to Spokane. and today we goofed off in Spokane, watching the raging water fall downtown, then drove through Moses Lake and up through the Columbia Gorge to Wenatchee and Leavenworth for Schnitzels and then over Stevens Pass to home... I put it in 3rd gear at the top of Stevens Pass and didn't touch the throttle until we were almost to Deception Falls... went from 3rd to 4th and then to 5th, but without the throttle... that probably helped my economy, had a number of other serious downgrades where I never touched the go pedal. even had to touch the brakes a few places... amazing how much speed one can pick up going down a mountain... All in all the Jetta Wagon did quite well. The VW TDI engine is surprisingly gutsy... might be because of the 11mm pump, not sure, but when I pulled out to pass a semi going up hill at 70mph, downshifted to 4th and kept my foot in it until the truck was a spot in the mirror I was doing around 90, maybe more... there was more left but my copilot asked why I was going so fast... ;) this was going UP in the mountains of SE Montana... not flat ground... anyway, happy to be home... pictures to follow... http://fotomeister.us/2011/05-May-10-RoadTrip_DAY_ONE-WA-ID-MT/ALL.html will have a day by day, but plan one summary using thumbnails to capture the entire road trip... lots of beautiful scenery... we couldn't go through Yellowstone or Glacier, not open yet... saw snow in many of the passes, frozen lake at the continental divide in MT and fresh snow fall in the Black Hills near Deadwood... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3722 **************************