From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Apr 28 22:39:12 2011 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Friday, April 29 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3722 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Dodge NP208 transfercase $100 Seattle Re: fsj: Wag Floor repair documentation Re: fsj: Wag Floor repair documentation FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:21:58 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: fsj: Dodge NP208 transfercase $100 Seattle Identical to the Jeep version that bolts to 727 '80 and up except it's mirror imaged. If you have a pre '80 rig and want to put in a 727 instead of TH400, or an AW4 (overdrive auto from little Cherokees. It needs a 1" spacer to install plus other externals) Without changing the RH drop axles. I was going to put it in my '73 J4000 before I rolled it. I took the rear yoke off (different that Jeep anyways) Possibly swap for a jeep np229/229/219 in equally good shape (to go into my Eagle) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:12:22 -0500 From: Kim Tesar Subject: Re: fsj: Wag Floor repair documentation Mark, that would be great. Please take your time and do the work for you. Documenting it for the rest of us is another plus. I read something about adhesives today, that sometimes their bonds may be superior to welding, of course, an overlap is needed. Thanks for the point about the fibreglas. I've heard the same about undercoating. - - Landon ///////// On Apr 27, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Mark Wallace wrote: > I am pretty sure mine is rusted over the seams so I am also pretty > sure i can > document repairing that kind of damage. I think my floor is gone > between the > rear door sill and the rocker as well. > > I typically like to join panels with a butt weld unless i am > duplicating a > factory seam. I can cover all the various paints I use to keep rust > from > coming back from POR-15, Weld-thru primer, and PPG DP-90. I think I > will write > it in much the same way that Hot Rod magazine writes. > > The prettier it is typically the better it holds as it traps less > corrosive > stuff...road salt, etc. That being said my experience with > fiberglass is that > it sticks just well enough to form a one way check valve to keep > water, road > salt etc in. This includes some years of profesionally restoring > fiberglass > sports cars where from the factory the glass was bonded to the > metal frame. > Cutting the body off the frame and completely re-constructing the > frame is > pretty common on some of those cars. So I say save the glass for > the Corvettes > and the Lotuses. > > Anyway it is looking like my floor repair is coming closer and > closer. I may > be ordering parts in early May. As it stands today it looks like the > drivetrain is coming out on friday for me to paint the engine, > replace the > leaky freeze plugs, re-do the brake plumbing and paint the rest of > the frame. > > Then...one of the classic cars that I work on for a customer just > got a new > interior. There is an old man from Zacatecas MX in town who does nice > upholstery work and he does it pretty cheap so i may re-do the > seats as well. > > Mark Wallace > 81 Wag > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Tesar > To: Mark Wallace > Cc: fsj-digest-at-digest.net > Sent: Wed, Apr 20, 2011 5:05 pm > Subject: Re: fsj: Wag Floor repair documentation > > > Thanks, Mark. > > I guess I'm most interested in what to do when the rust is right in > the seam > between two panels, like footwell to cab side, or doorsill to > rocker panel. > > How to cut out the problem area, how to overlap patch panels, how > to rough it > in, how to weld it, how to fibreglass it and how to keep it from > coming > back... > > Doesn't have to be pretty. Just gotta cut out the cancer. > > - Landon > ///// > On Apr 20, 2011, at 1:21 AM, Mark Wallace wrote: > >> The planets are hinting at coming into alignment to allow me to do >> > my > floor >> repair on my Wag. Basically three things need to line up at the > >> same time. > #1: >> Money. #2 Time (you always seem to have one or the other) #3 I >> need > to > feel >> well enough. (Got hurt about three years ago and I aggravated it > >> real bad > last >> week and have lost a couple of days of work) >> >> I think it is going to happen sometime in May. >> >> For those of you all who are contemplating doing this job down the >> > road a >> spell which would be more helpful? A video? Or a series of photos >> with >> description like the Album "MGB: Making a Part" >> >> http://community.webshots.com/user/GenXMark >> >> is there anything that anybody specifically wants to see >> documented > (other >> than the obligatory touching a piece of red hot metal to determine >> > if it > is >> still hot) >> >> Mark >> 81 Wag ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:37:46 -0400 From: Mark Wallace Subject: Re: fsj: Wag Floor repair documentation I'll take some pics of what happened when I did fiberglass over rust when I painted the Wag back in 1992. (I was seventeen and didn't know how to weld yet) That was way back when Du Pont Centari enamel was state of the art. I thought that they quit making that stuff until a customer brought me some to do a 1970 Pontiac Grand Prix in. Adhesives have been discussed on my MG board and the general consensus when calling the manufacturers is that the manufacturers say no when asked if they can hold in a floor. An MGB floor is pretty well designed...basically a flat pan with some beads and a turned up flange around the edge. Yes, undercoating is also a one way check valve sealing in the road salt. If I was to use undercoating at all i would use it on the inside of the car as a sound deadener, but there are more modern things for that today like dynamat, that work better and aren't as heavy. Of course I can't hear very well anyway so what do i care? Do I need to hear it when my passengers ask silly questions like "what's that smell?" or "What's that noise?" John Twist from University Motors has a youtube video where he talks about Undercoating: http://www.youtube.com/user/Universitymotorsltd#p/u/6/w3BnzcQtHZ0 John Twist is a real treasure in the MG community. In the same video he has a few MGB GTs...the *other*project car in my stable...my Wag's hood is taller than my MG's roof. - -----Original Message----- From: Kim Tesar To: Mark Wallace Cc: fsj-digest-at-digest.net Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2011 8:12 pm Subject: Re: fsj: Wag Floor repair documentation Mark, that would be great. Please take your time and do the work for you. Documenting it for the rest of us is another plus. I read something about adhesives today, that sometimes their bonds may be superior to welding, of course, an overlap is needed. Thanks for the point about the fibreglas. I've heard the same about undercoating. - - Landon - -clip- ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3722 **************************