From owner-fsj-digest-at-digest.net Mon May 2 16:09:25 2011 From: fsj-digest fsj-digest Monday, May 2 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3722 Forum for Discussion of Full Sized SJ Series Jeeps Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: fsj: Re: not a perkins - it was a Mazda Diesel in the Ford Ranger RE: fsj: I'm a newbie Re: fsj: I'm a newbie RE: fsj: I'm a newbie fsj: the use of Perkins Diesels fsj: Re: the use of Perkins Diesels RE: fsj: I'm a newbie FSJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeeps/fsj/ Send submissions to fsj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to fsj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to fsj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:00:51 -0600 (MDT) From: Diana Eichert Subject: fsj: Re: not a perkins - it was a Mazda Diesel in the Ford Ranger Everybody is right, Mazda/Perkins AND Mitsubishi diesels were both used in 80's Ford Rangers. It depends on which year you bought. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Ranger_(North_America) , look under 1983-1988. http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/Diesels.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 13:44:24 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie Supposedly only special order early Scouts were available with the Perkins diesel. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Harvester_Scout > Subject: Re: fsj: I'm a newbie > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; r16884-at-freescale.com; fsj-at-digest.net > From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:39:26 +0000 > > From 76 and up IH used the Nissan SD33. It is possible that early 60s may have used one, but I've never heard or read about such, but then again haven't looked at it very hard either. > > > *** john at http://wagoneers.com *** > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Blair > Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 09:32:53 > To: ; local Jeep list > Reply-To: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie > > I think the Ranger or Mazda John had was Perkins powered. IH ran them in early > Scouts too. > > Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > > > > > > From: R16884-at-freescale.com > > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; john-at-wagoneers.com; erniesilva-at-gmail.com > > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > > Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie > > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:44:27 +0000 > > > > I know Perkins put a 4cyl in a Ranger in the early 80's, somewhere around 45 > hp, about the same as a 190D. I think the Isuzu diesel of the time was a > better light diesel. > > > > FYI, my Dad is talking to Cummins to build a light diesel, he wants it to > turn 4500 rpm to build a diesel-electric generator driven support for a > drivetrain at each corner. 2 spd electric, two speed geartrain. But I think > there is a large flywheel in there, and that is not something well received in > the auto market. Concept in process, he's more about the drive wheel design. > > > > - Landon > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Jim > Blair > > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 10:37 AM > > To: john Meister; erniesilva-at-gmail.com > > Cc: local Jeep list > > Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie > > > > Older Perkins would be rather anemic for the modern highways here. Seems > Chrysler had their hand in that setup as well as Caterpillar. > > Only factory installed Perkins 6 cyl W300 known to exist: > > http://www.sweptline.com/hist/bigtrucks.html I used to work on a customer's > > '68 Dodge D200 with the 4 cyl perkins. The 6 cyl had more torque but isn't > much perkier. (pun intended) AMC used them in taxis built overseas! > > http://www.allpar.com/mopar/perkins.html > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Engines_Company_Limited > > > > Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 22:51:48 -0700 > > > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > > > To: erniesilva-at-gmail.com > > > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > > > Subject: Re: fsj: I'm a newbie > > > > > > I am putting an SD33T into my '83 J10 stepside, using an International > > > Harvester adapater to mate to an RV version of the > > Torqueflite 727 automatic, modified > > > to accept the Jeep NP208 transfer case. > > > > > > I had a 1986 Jeep CJ-10A with the SD33 and RV/TF727/NP208. > > > > > > I would love to have info on the Perkins engine used... how much would > > shipping be? :) What transmission does > > > it use? > > > > > > here's the list of vehicles I've owned: > > > http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html > > > > > > john > > > > > > ----- > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > -o|||||o- > > > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > > > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > > > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Ernesto Silva wrote: > > > > > > # OK, then I'll buy it, it'll take about 20 days on "mail travelling" > > > # till I get my hands on it. > > > # > > > # The Perkins engine is not a problem in my country, as the diesel > > > was # cheaper in the 90's there are a lot of that engines installed > > > on # trucks. It's a very common one, some of them (the good ones) > > > were # imported from the UK an were used, not new. The others were > > > imported # from Argentina. They are also very common in Brazil in the > > > heavy duty # road and farm machinery. > > > # > > > # Thank you for your fast answer. > > > # > > > # Ernesto. > > > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: fsj: I'm a newbie like the way the front end looks... put the same grille on my J10 http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/ (the white one is what's in my driveway, the other one is being rebuilt, both are 1983s) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 2 May 2011, Ernesto Silva wrote: # Hi John, thanks for the offering, I've published 4 pictures at # http://www.flickr.cuse # them if you like.om/photos/ernieuy/ # you can publish them if you # like. # # They are not the best ones, very few light, etc. Please give me some time to # make better ones. # # Ernesto. # # On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 2:15 PM, john wrote: # # > I can put pictures of your wagoneer on wagoneers.com... # > # > send them to me, not the list, directly at john-at-wagoneers.com # > # > max size 1024x768, 900x something is better. no spaces in the file names, # > descriptive names please, # > like Ernesto-64-wagoneer-01.jpg Ernesto-64-wagoneer-02.jpg etc. # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > -o|||||o- # > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Ernesto Silva wrote: # > # > # Yep, it's not an agile vehicle, it's more like a tractor, je je, but I # > love # > # old tractors!!! As it has some break issues I haven't tested it on the # > # highway, I believe it can reach 120Kmph at maximun. # > # # > # Here the P4-203 (general use in 1 to 2 tons old cars and trucks, small # > # tractors, etc), the P4-236 (same use as 203 but with more power) and # > the # > # P6-354 (used in 4 to 6 tons trucks I believe) are the most common ones. # > # # > # Ernesto Silva - Montevideo, '64 Wagoneer. # > # # > # On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Jim Blair wrote: # > # # > # > Older Perkins would be rather anemic for the modern highways here. # > Seems # > # > Chrysler had their hand in that setup as well as Caterpillar. # > # > Only factory installed Perkins 6 cyl W300 known to exist: # > # > http://www.sweptline.com/hist/bigtrucks.html I used to work on a # > # > customer's # > # > '68 Dodge D200 with the 4 cyl perkins. The 6 cyl had more torque but # > isn't # > # > much perkier. (pun intended) AMC used them in taxis built overseas! # > # > http://www.allpar.com/mopar/perkins.html # > # > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Engines_Company_Limited # > # > # > # > Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # > # # > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:14:16 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie rumors... no solid info: There are rumors that a few early Scouts left the factory with Perkins diesel engines, but these would have been special-order trucks and not a standard option. The Scout II (made between 1971 and 1980) had the following engine options: the 196 4-cylinder, 232 6-cylinder (early production), 258 6-cylinder (later production), 304 V-8, and 345 V-8. At the time, International did not manufacture a diesel engine small enough to be used in the Scout, and so starting in 1976 used the Nissan SD33 diesel engine as a diesel option. This engine was replaced by the Nissan SD33T turbodiesel engine in 1980. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jim Blair wrote: # Supposedly only special order early Scouts were available with the Perkins # diesel. # # http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Harvester_Scout # # > Subject: Re: fsj: I'm a newbie # > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; r16884-at-freescale.com; fsj-at-digest.net # > From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com # > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:39:26 +0000 # > # > From 76 and up IH used the Nissan SD33. It is possible that early 60s may # have used one, but I've never heard or read about such, but then again haven't # looked at it very hard either. # > # > # > *** john at http://wagoneers.com *** # > # > -----Original Message----- # > From: Jim Blair # > Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net # > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 09:32:53 # > To: ; local Jeep list # > Reply-To: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie # > # > I think the Ranger or Mazda John had was Perkins powered. IH ran them in # early # > Scouts too. # > # > Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # > # > # > # > # > > From: R16884-at-freescale.com # > > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; john-at-wagoneers.com; erniesilva-at-gmail.com # > > CC: fsj-at-digest.net # > > Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie # > > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:44:27 +0000 # > > # > > I know Perkins put a 4cyl in a Ranger in the early 80's, somewhere around # 45 # > hp, about the same as a 190D. I think the Isuzu diesel of the time was a # > better light diesel. # > > # > > FYI, my Dad is talking to Cummins to build a light diesel, he wants it to # > turn 4500 rpm to build a diesel-electric generator driven support for a # > drivetrain at each corner. 2 spd electric, two speed geartrain. But I # think # > there is a large flywheel in there, and that is not something well received # in # > the auto market. Concept in process, he's more about the drive wheel # design. # > > # > > - Landon # > > # > > -----Original Message----- # > > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Jim # > Blair # > > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 10:37 AM # > > To: john Meister; erniesilva-at-gmail.com # > > Cc: local Jeep list # > > Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie # > > # > > Older Perkins would be rather anemic for the modern highways here. Seems # > Chrysler had their hand in that setup as well as Caterpillar. # > > Only factory installed Perkins 6 cyl W300 known to exist: # > > http://www.sweptline.com/hist/bigtrucks.html I used to work on a # customer's # > > '68 Dodge D200 with the 4 cyl perkins. The 6 cyl had more torque but # isn't # > much perkier. (pun intended) AMC used them in taxis built overseas! # > > http://www.allpar.com/mopar/perkins.html # > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Engines_Company_Limited # > > # > > Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 22:51:48 -0700 # > > > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > > > To: erniesilva-at-gmail.com # > > > CC: fsj-at-digest.net # > > > Subject: Re: fsj: I'm a newbie # > > > # > > > I am putting an SD33T into my '83 J10 stepside, using an International # > > > Harvester adapater to mate to an RV version of the # > > Torqueflite 727 automatic, modified # > > > to accept the Jeep NP208 transfer case. # > > > # > > > I had a 1986 Jeep CJ-10A with the SD33 and RV/TF727/NP208. # > > > # > > > I would love to have info on the Perkins engine used... how much would # > > shipping be? :) What transmission does # > > > it use? # > > > # > > > here's the list of vehicles I've owned: # > > > http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html # > > > # > > > john # > > > # > > > ----- # > > > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > > > -o|||||o- # > > > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > > > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > > > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us # > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > > > -- # > > > # > > > # > > > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Ernesto Silva wrote: # > > > # > > > # OK, then I'll buy it, it'll take about 20 days on "mail travelling" # > > > # till I get my hands on it. # > > > # # > > > # The Perkins engine is not a problem in my country, as the diesel # > > > was # cheaper in the 90's there are a lot of that engines installed # > > > on # trucks. It's a very common one, some of them (the good ones) # > > > were # imported from the UK an were used, not new. The others were # > > > imported # from Argentina. They are also very common in Brazil in the # > > > heavy duty # road and farm machinery. # > > > # # > > > # Thank you for your fast answer. # > > > # # > > > # Ernesto. # > > > # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:18:37 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: the use of Perkins Diesels http://www.allpar.com/mopar/perkins.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Engines_Company_Limited it's interesting that a big Dodge truck weighing 6,800lbs with a Perkins Diesel will get better mileage than a Full Size Jeep.... or most XJs or WJs... and some Mercedes Diesels... from: http://www.sweptline.com/hist/bigtrucks.html Aaron Arnold of Boerne, Texas, owns this one of a kind Perkins Diesel powered W-300. The truck is the only Perkins Diesel powered W-300 known to exist and one of a rare few W-300 Crew Cab Trucks. Although originally equipped to haul horses, the truck now has a Utiline bed on the rear of the chassis (see photos below). This unique truck has the following specifications: * 354 ci Six Cylinder Perkins Diesel Engine, English built (Eng. # 8044081) * 146" wheelbase * NP 420 Transmission with special bellhousing * NP 201 Twin-Stick Transfer Case * Dana 70 Front and Rear Differentials (4.88:1 gears) * Dual Rear Wheels * MU-2A Braden PTO Winch (10,000lb capacity) * Dual Batteries * Dash mounted Throttle Pull Handle * Mechanical Tachometer with hours meter * Medium Duty Truck Steering Wheel * Full Length Running Boards * Power Brakes with Vacuum Pump and reserve tank * Diesel Fender Emblems under Dodge Emblems (same script) * Cold Weather Start decal, pull knob and ether bottle on firewall * Pull to Stop Engine decal with knob * Use Diesel Fuel Only decal along with 20 gallon tank behind seat * Chrysler Perkins Industrial Diesel decal on valve cover * Bostrom Viking T-bar seats (possibly a dealer installed option) * Interesting Statistics: PW-300 Curb Weight: 6,860lbs * Gas Mileage: 17-18 at 65 mph * Engine Oil Capacity: 16.5 quarts ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 2 May 2011, Ernesto Silva wrote: # Yep, it's not an agile vehicle, it's more like a tractor, je je, but I love # old tractors!!! As it has some break issues I haven't tested it on the # highway, I believe it can reach 120Kmph at maximun. # # Here the P4-203 (general use in 1 to 2 tons old cars and trucks, small # tractors, etc), the P4-236 (same use as 203 but with more power) and the # P6-354 (used in 4 to 6 tons trucks I believe) are the most common ones. # # Ernesto Silva - Montevideo, '64 Wagoneer. # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:37:09 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: fsj: Re: the use of Perkins Diesels shouldn't that be liters / 100km? http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/liters-per-100km-MPG.txt john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 2 May 2011, Ernesto Silva wrote: # I've seen the article a few hours ago and read the same part of it, strange # truck, isn't it? # # In my country we measure mileage in how many km can I ride with 20 lt of # fuel. My Wagoneer fuel consumption may be around 180Km with 20 lt of diesel # oil. # # >From the article data I get that it consumes 1 gallon (3.7 litres aprox) # every 17 miles (27 km), so my calculation is 27/3.7=7.3km/lt, or almost # 146km with 20 lt of diesel oil. Much better than my wagoneer estimate if you # compare the sizes and weights of both vehicles. # # Ernesto. # # On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:18 PM, john wrote: # # > http://www.allpar.com/mopar/perkins.html # > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Engines_Company_Limited # > # > # > it's interesting that a big Dodge truck weighing 6,800lbs with a Perkins # > Diesel will # > get better mileage than a Full Size Jeep.... or most XJs or WJs... and # > some Mercedes Diesels... # > # > from: http://www.sweptline.com/hist/bigtrucks.html # > # > Aaron Arnold of Boerne, Texas, owns this one of a kind Perkins Diesel # > powered W-300. The truck is the only Perkins Diesel powered W-300 known to # > exist and one of a rare few W-300 Crew Cab Trucks. Although originally # > equipped to haul horses, the truck now has a Utiline bed on the rear of the # > chassis (see photos below). This unique truck has the following # > specifications: # > # > * 354 ci Six Cylinder Perkins Diesel Engine, English built (Eng. # # > 8044081) # > * 146" wheelbase # > * NP 420 Transmission with special bellhousing # > * NP 201 Twin-Stick Transfer Case # > * Dana 70 Front and Rear Differentials (4.88:1 gears) # > * Dual Rear Wheels # > * MU-2A Braden PTO Winch (10,000lb capacity) # > * Dual Batteries # > * Dash mounted Throttle Pull Handle # > * Mechanical Tachometer with hours meter # > * Medium Duty Truck Steering Wheel # > * Full Length Running Boards # > * Power Brakes with Vacuum Pump and reserve tank # > * Diesel Fender Emblems under Dodge Emblems (same script) # > * Cold Weather Start decal, pull knob and ether bottle on firewall # > * Pull to Stop Engine decal with knob # > * Use Diesel Fuel Only decal along with 20 gallon tank behind seat # > * Chrysler Perkins Industrial Diesel decal on valve cover # > * Bostrom Viking T-bar seats (possibly a dealer installed option) # > # > * Interesting Statistics: PW-300 Curb Weight: 6,860lbs # > * Gas Mileage: 17-18 at 65 mph # > * Engine Oil Capacity: 16.5 quarts # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > -o|||||o- # > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Ernesto Silva wrote: # > # > # Yep, it's not an agile vehicle, it's more like a tractor, je je, but I # > love # > # old tractors!!! As it has some break issues I haven't tested it on the # > # highway, I believe it can reach 120Kmph at maximun. # > # # > # Here the P4-203 (general use in 1 to 2 tons old cars and trucks, small # > # tractors, etc), the P4-236 (same use as 203 but with more power) and # > the # > # P6-354 (used in 4 to 6 tons trucks I believe) are the most common ones. # > # # > # Ernesto Silva - Montevideo, '64 Wagoneer. # > # # > # > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 16:08:33 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie There are several people on the Scout list that have Perkins diesels in them > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:14:16 -0700 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com > CC: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com; r16884-at-freescale.com; fsj-at-digest.net > Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie > > rumors... no solid info: > > > There are rumors that a few early Scouts left the factory with Perkins diesel engines, but these would have been special-order trucks and not a standard option. The Scout II (made between 1971 and 1980) had the following engine options: the 196 4-cylinder, 232 6-cylinder (early production), 258 6-cylinder (later production), 304 V-8, and 345 V-8. At the time, International did not manufacture a diesel engine small enough to be used in the Scout, and so starting in 1976 used the Nissan SD33 diesel engine as a diesel option. This engine was replaced by the Nissan SD33T turbodiesel engine in 1980. > > > john > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -o|||||o- > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jim Blair wrote: > > # Supposedly only special order early Scouts were available with the Perkins > # diesel. > # > # http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Harvester_Scout > # > # > Subject: Re: fsj: I'm a newbie > # > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; r16884-at-freescale.com; fsj-at-digest.net > # > From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com > # > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:39:26 +0000 > # > > # > From 76 and up IH used the Nissan SD33. It is possible that early 60s may > # have used one, but I've never heard or read about such, but then again haven't > # looked at it very hard either. > # > > # > > # > *** john at http://wagoneers.com *** > # > > # > -----Original Message----- > # > From: Jim Blair > # > Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net > # > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 09:32:53 > # > To: ; local Jeep list > # > Reply-To: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie > # > > # > I think the Ranger or Mazda John had was Perkins powered. IH ran them in > # early > # > Scouts too. > # > > # > Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > From: R16884-at-freescale.com > # > > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; john-at-wagoneers.com; erniesilva-at-gmail.com > # > > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > # > > Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie > # > > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:44:27 +0000 > # > > > # > > I know Perkins put a 4cyl in a Ranger in the early 80's, somewhere around > # 45 > # > hp, about the same as a 190D. I think the Isuzu diesel of the time was a > # > better light diesel. > # > > > # > > FYI, my Dad is talking to Cummins to build a light diesel, he wants it to > # > turn 4500 rpm to build a diesel-electric generator driven support for a > # > drivetrain at each corner. 2 spd electric, two speed geartrain. But I > # think > # > there is a large flywheel in there, and that is not something well received > # in > # > the auto market. Concept in process, he's more about the drive wheel > # design. > # > > > # > > - Landon > # > > > # > > -----Original Message----- > # > > From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Jim > # > Blair > # > > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 10:37 AM > # > > To: john Meister; erniesilva-at-gmail.com > # > > Cc: local Jeep list > # > > Subject: RE: fsj: I'm a newbie > # > > > # > > Older Perkins would be rather anemic for the modern highways here. Seems > # > Chrysler had their hand in that setup as well as Caterpillar. > # > > Only factory installed Perkins 6 cyl W300 known to exist: > # > > http://www.sweptline.com/hist/bigtrucks.html I used to work on a > # customer's > # > > '68 Dodge D200 with the 4 cyl perkins. The 6 cyl had more torque but > # isn't > # > much perkier. (pun intended) AMC used them in taxis built overseas! > # > > http://www.allpar.com/mopar/perkins.html > # > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkins_Engines_Company_Limited > # > > > # > > Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > # > > > # > > > # > > > # > > > # > > > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 22:51:48 -0700 > # > > > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > # > > > To: erniesilva-at-gmail.com > # > > > CC: fsj-at-digest.net > # > > > Subject: Re: fsj: I'm a newbie > # > > > > # > > > I am putting an SD33T into my '83 J10 stepside, using an International > # > > > Harvester adapater to mate to an RV version of the > # > > Torqueflite 727 automatic, modified > # > > > to accept the Jeep NP208 transfer case. > # > > > > # > > > I had a 1986 Jeep CJ-10A with the SD33 and RV/TF727/NP208. > # > > > > # > > > I would love to have info on the Perkins engine used... how much would > # > > shipping be? :) What transmission does > # > > > it use? > # > > > > # > > > here's the list of vehicles I've owned: > # > > > http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html > # > > > > # > > > john > # > > > > # > > > ----- > # > > > > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > > > -o|||||o- > # > > > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # > > > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > # > > > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us > # > > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > > > -- > # > > > > # > > > > # > > > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Ernesto Silva wrote: > # > > > > # > > > # OK, then I'll buy it, it'll take about 20 days on "mail travelling" > # > > > # till I get my hands on it. > # > > > # > # > > > # The Perkins engine is not a problem in my country, as the diesel > # > > > was # cheaper in the 90's there are a lot of that engines installed > # > > > on # trucks. It's a very common one, some of them (the good ones) > # > > > were # imported from the UK an were used, not new. The others were > # > > > imported # from Argentina. They are also very common in Brazil in the > # > > > heavy duty # road and farm machinery. > # > > > # > # > > > # Thank you for your fast answer. > # > > > # > # > > > # Ernesto. > # > > > # > # ------------------------------ End of fsj-digest V1 #3722 **************************